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12:02 AM
upgrading PHP version on server
I wonder how many percent of the web is still written in PHP
 
12:28 AM
Can you share a minimal self-contained example? Also, what is "semantic value"? There's exposed, synthesized, inherited or local attributes, or semantic actions. (Really, try not to explain, just show the code). Inserting the qi::eps is for single-element adapted sequences. intrusive_ptr<T> is not that: in fact it has no attribute propagation rules at all, unless you provide the transformation traitssehe 1 min ago
Oh man. This guy is having such a tough time trying to make Spirit Qi+Lex do all the things you shouldn't /cc @Borgleader @LucDanton
It's really ironic when you read his bio.
I think I've seen something like that once in someone's grammar, but I can't find it. Meanwhile, found this data point, which is what that I tried to mention earlier: stackoverflow.com/a/19186345/85371. I've read your bio and therefore I know how you feel about things that unusable without Stackoverflow. I think I know what conclusion you'll be reaching. — sehe yesterday
 
how often should I upgrade/update an ubuntu server?
 
always
 
...
typed this because you love those so much
so if I do:
sudo apt-get upgrade
does that upgrade all the things need to be upgraded on the server?
 
 
err ... no, needs to manually add some packages first
 
12:41 AM
[AU]
 
12:53 AM
Is that a reference to me?
 
@sehe Oh. Thanks.
 
 
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2:19 AM
command(const string& s) {
    x = (char*) calloc(s.size()+1, 1);
    strcpy(x, s.c_str());
}
command(command&& in): x(in.x) {
    other.x = nullptr;
}
~command() {
    if(x) delete x;
}
...my head hurts
 
/cc @Mysticial
 
needs more C++11 tag
 
2:33 AM
So, whats everybody working on?
 
trying to update packages on my server
... and failing
I should just ask the helpdesk to handle this for me
but I am hardcore DIY
I like the pain I go through while fixing things even if I could get it fixed for free by someone else ...
 
You'd have to pay a bunch of money to get the kind of support that types "apt-get" into a terminal
Like Snapchat expensive hosting
 
apt-get didn't work
 
try emerge
 
I am trying a lot of things
 
2:38 AM
I'm unifying the way my software handles RS232, but its kinda scary because I can't test on any of the physical devices I supposedly support
Can't wait till I break some equipment because the device used '\r\n' instead of '\n'
Yesterday got fucked over by Nikon Instruments bullshit single apartment COM implementation. Got a manual written in moon-runes, and the only way to do asynchronous call back is to receive messages through the native Windows message handing pump, forward them them to COM, which then triggers the callback. Kind of like installing a message filter manually. This pretty fucking hard to do when you don't have access to the native message loop, because its not fucking 1994.
Also the SDK came with no software samples in C++, instead three samples in VB 6
 
root@telkitty:~# sudo apt-get install php5.6
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package php5.6
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'php5.6'
 
debian?
Not fucked. As long as you don't mind three year old packages.
 
ubuntu
 
uname -r
probably need to add a ppa, or upgrade ubuntu
or build from src
 
2:54 AM
created a ticket to upgrade a few items at the same time
can't be bothered to spend the whole afternoon for it
 
*goes back to lurking on SO
 
If attention is like sex, then stackoverflow is like a brothel & we are its clients
 
I'm here mostly to complain and leave a trail for future legal action against my employer
 
fixing is 'in progress'
 
3:35 AM
this room needs more edgy memes
 
There's probably a book already
 
@Telkitty It's a summation
 
3:39 AM
 
I still get random spams on my contact page after adding arithmetic captcha :/
 
Add integrals and differential
You'll never ever receive a message again
 
...
 
What if the function isn't C1?
 
differential calculus, because I am an academically snobbish b!tch
write simple recursion to prove that you are not a robot
 
3:43 AM
One nice example of captcha would be to ask a person to write a regex that match something
 
a better captcha is to ask for their social security number
this is the classical meaning of the word "capture"
 
I still don't understand why captcha still do exist
 
I was given a picture with near a hundred cars in a captcha & I need to click on the parts with any car to prove I wasn't a robot this morning
perverts
 
I had that almost every 5 min with google
then ditched mostly it for duckduckgo because I spent more time clicking on cars/signs/markets/... then receiving any search result
 
That happens when a computer on your network is compromised, or Google thinks your block is being used for a botnet, etc.
 
3:52 AM
Except I'm the only computer on the network except may be it blocks more ips as I'm on a mobile network
 
@Mikhail That's far too large a book. All such a volume really needs is a single page, with a single word: "NO."
 
It happens more often as I search for datasheets
 
I only run into this problem when using Tor (to search on google)
 
Also the incognito mode in firefox doesn'T help
 
4:56 AM
Going to a conference on Saturday. Want to make a poster vapor wave themed, but not sure if this will be interpreted as alt-right (which is undesirable).
 
5:20 AM
half a life, because you deserve it!
 
 
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7:24 AM
the poster will be entirely in comic sans
 
 
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8:27 AM
> Yes. Avoid sharing and ZeroMQ tools will serve you as a hell
Someone is overselling a bit
 
8:41 AM
I'm overmorning a bit people!
 
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A: C++ Boost Serialization: Input Stream Error

user3666197Let me add a few cents on ZeroMQ part of the story: Fact #1:ZeroMQ does never deliver a piece of trash it delivers either a complete message( as it was sent ) or nothing at all this principal design feature helps to sort out one of the claimed potential issues. If an application indeed receive...

It's actually an epic rant. I was trying to "fix" it, but the edit is too intrusive. So here goes for posterity: paste.ubuntu.com/25923803
Okay, I'll let the answer author decide
Simplifying also works "as a hell" for prose: paste.ubuntu.com/25923803sehe 11 secs ago
 
9:24 AM
Why is it that the new language warts seem to hurt more than the ones we've known for so long coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/4bbc375fdfb56046
 
@nwp because people are bad at writing generic code
 
nwp
@sehe You just haven't seen it enough times yet to remember.
 
Oh, I do remember. I was measuring pain
 
@sehe Maybe you are just desensitised to the old problems
 
That was my point, yes.
 
9:32 AM
Ah, I thought you were saying that they are actual worse than the old issues
 
It's funny, because it diminished the perceived value of the improvements. I mean, that c++17 version is considerably nicer than the c++03 version
 
which I guess they might be... or at least we haven't yet learnt how to cope with them
 
@thecoshman The key words were "why" and "seem"
@thecoshman There's a good point. This is probably what makes Hodges and friend so furious about std::string_view
 
sadly no. 'seem' is just that it's your perception, that sadly doesn't tell me if you are saying you think they are actually worse or just feel worse
 
Verb: seem (third-person singular simple present seems, present participle seeming, simple past and past participle seemed)
  1. (copulative) To appear; to look outwardly; to be perceived as.
  2. 1460-1500, The Towneley Playsː
  3. He is so fair, without lease, he seems full well to sit on this.
  4. 1813 (14thc.), Dante Alighieri, The Vision of Hell as translated by The Rev. H. F. Cary.
  5. He, from his face removing the gross air, / Oft his left hand forth stretch'd, and seem'd alone / By that annoyance wearied.
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I know colloquial use of "seems", but I'm a c++ programmer
@thecoshman Tell us about the medication that allows you to type so much better these days. The difference is impressive :)
 
9:35 AM
@sehe I am amazingly tired today
I think it's mostly just that I'm trying to not be so bad
 
Still impressive.
 
@sehe Thanks
 
9:49 AM
Howard's civil time library targets C++20 /o/
 
@Morwenn wat
 
Ven
@VermillionAzure do you not follow civil time?
 
@VermillionAzure This one: github.com/HowardHinnant/date
Not the whole thing, but a huge part of it
 
@Ven lol no
I didn't know about it
 
Oh, we might get foo<"stringliteral">() in C++20 :D
 
Ven
9:57 AM
const char* tyep parameter?
 
@Morwenn finally
 
Ell
surely it'd be const char[]
for some reason
 
@Ven Plus they want to make it work with template<auto&> or something like that
 
Ven
@Ell why would it be mutable
@Morwenn WAHT 2 HECK
 
Ell
@Ven sorry I don't know how C arrays work lol
 
9:58 AM
@Ven To get a const reference to an array instead of a pointer apparently
 
Ven
@Ell it's more like "specialcases for quotes", i.e. char const[] a = "abc"; vs char const* a = "abc";
 
Interesting
BY THE WAY
I'm going to be making labs for our C++ class. Any suggestions?
 
Of course they want to allow it for every supported string literal, not only char ones (which was the original problem the proposal wanted to solve before they crammed more things in)
 
When are they going to add proper U8 string support in the standard library?
Because I thought they couldn't do it because the way std::string was designed
 
@VermillionAzure There was an evening session dedicated to UTF and text processing this week
Not sure what came out of it
 
10:02 AM
@Morwenn wait where?
 
@VermillionAzure In Albuquerque, at the fall C++ committee meeting
 
Also, I feel like C++ needs first-class UTF support. I think that ICU or similar functionality should be a core library some how
 
Ven
wow Cinch
where'd you get taht feeling from
 
@Ven why are you teasing me
Rust has UTF8 strings that are well supported
 
See. C++ doesn't need them, because you can use Rust
 
10:11 AM
@sehe polar bear
I am in the beginning stages of writing the scope-tracking part of my macro expander!
I honestly and sincerely believe I will have a Scheme ready by this semester
It will be slow, yes. But it will work
 
10:34 AM
My code makes no such assumption anywhere. Also, variants by definition have a bounded list of alternative types. Look at boost::any for something more dynamic. Fair warning: I consider a using boost::any almost always a design flaw (exception: passing opaque types across language/module boundaries) — sehe 1 min ago
Another poor soul turns out not to understand strong typing after a drawn-out exchange
 
@sehe ???
 
10:51 AM
@VermillionAzure He doesn't understand them, and the exchange is long and drawn-out. Proof:
 
@sehe Wait, you can widen and narrow variants?
or any?
 
@VermillionAzure See the question that the comment chat originates from
 
@sehe How does it know when the variant being looked at contains the "correct" type at compile-time?
 
The proposal for constexpr std::vector advances through the committee subgroups
 
11:08 AM
@Morwenn this is a thing?
 
@VermillionAzure This might be one
> requires clauses for lambdas? 13 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 0
> requires clauses for template-template parameters? 4 | 7 | 12 | 0 | 0
> auto as a function parameter? 6 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 6
So... requires everywhere, but not auto pamaeters for regular functions
 
???
What are the numbers
 
nwp
strongly agree to strongly disagree
 
@VermillionAzure I'm tired of repeating that several times, 4 times a year ._____.
 
 
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12:18 PM
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Q: OPEN GL Struggless??????????????????????? URGENTT

A.SalA). Write a computer programme using OpenGL to: 1). create a square using the Tangram pieces as shown in Fig.1 and colour the seven pieces of the geometric shapes (please choose a different colour for each piece) of your choice; 2). create a shape that you would like to form using the Tangram su...

u-u-u-u-ur-gent /cc @Mysticial
 
@Borgleader already deleted
 
The title and beginning sound like he is late with his homework.
 
When we need to test that code properly sounds like a joke, for code quality is seemingly against company policy...
 
@derM dare I ask?
 
nwp
@derM ... then it is time to apply elsewhere?
 
Yeah, feels like.
 
1
A: Catching errors on boost::ptime stream

seheUPDATE It looks like there is a bug in MSVC's standard library implementation. Boost delegates some work to std::time_put<> by default: Live On http://rextester.com/TMXPG58348 #include <ctime> #include <iomanip> #include <iostream> int main() { try { // std::locale::global(std::locale...

MSVC is having a bad day again
 
1:26 PM
Integral power-of-2 operations for C++20 apparently
More constexpr for std::complex, simple enough
 
1:48 PM
Eh, [[uninitialized]] didn't gather much consensus
Looks like we won't have a modern signature for main either
 
what's a "modern signature for main"
 
int main(std::initializer_list<std::string_view>>);
It was one of the proposals
 
hahahaha initializer_list
 
Another proposal was "whatever is iterable and yields a collection of string-like types"
 
Concept adept detect
 
1:57 PM
template<str_list> int main(str_list args)
 
nwp
When I read "modern signature for main" I thought about Herb Sutter's complaint that neither the arguments nor the return value make any sense for smart phones, which arguably count as modern devices.
 
@ratchetfreak str_list&& >:
 
nwp
So a modern signature for main would be something like void main(std::graphics::surface &surface).
 
Some people want to have cloning_ptr in C++20 apparently
 
@nwp which bollocks, as clearly programs aren't started directly and program-to-program interfaces still need to exist
 
2:02 PM
Many somewhat big features target C++20 instead of a TS
 
@nwp The assumption being that "modern" is equal to "having GUI". Which is... bananas
 
> Poll: "P0838 We want you to write this and bring it back so long as we can approve it in like 10 minutes in Jacksonville." Unanimous consent
 
@nwp freestanding impls vOv
 
nwp
I assume they want to add that main declaration, not replace the old ones, so I don't see how this would cause problems. If you don't need graphics just stick to the old declarations.
 
@nwp Poll said they don't want it
 
nwp
2:08 PM
I may have started a bit of a flame war.
 
Hye, we might finally have working ADL for function templates like get
 
Anybody here uses Typescript at work?
 
I wish
Ask Puppy
 
Is Typescript good?
 
@Morwenn wait, what was not working about that?
Do they add specific namespaces to disambiguate the zillion overloads for different types?
@Slava - Don't respond to one broad statement with another broad statement. For most user-defined types, it's perfectly fine and advisable. — StoryTeller 16 mins ago
He did well
For Christmas, I'd like every question on SO to be so well-researched and well-presented as this one. Exemplary. — sehe just now
 
2:33 PM
@sehe Can't use get<0>(foobar) without an equivalent of using std::get; first
@Rerito had this specific problem a few days/weeks ago
 
2:47 PM
@Morwenn How is that a problem? Also, any "fix" would imply breaking change, right?
@wilx It is quite listenable indeed
 
@sehe IIRC there's a breaking change if you had an operator< comparing function pointers, and they don't care much about such a breaking change
Concerning the problem, it's mostly that people find it strange that ADL works out of the box for operators, functions and function templates, but stops working out of the box when you explicitly specify a function template parameter
lol, algorithms in <algorithm> might get constexpr, but not the ones that are allowed to use swap
 
3:04 PM
Yeah. The corollary of that is that the spec is going to promote a lot of very generic names to the level of operators, almost like builtins, really.
 
it's already what's done with many math functions, so...
 
@Morwenn I still do not know how this will enable me to keep using my std::tuple<...> as a boost property-map without suddenly having to qualify all uses of get(pmap, key) with boost::get(...) to avoid ambiguity.
 
@sehe Go to committee meetings and ask questions :D
 
Are they going to artificially constrain it for only explicitly specified template arguments (so get<0>(x) is special, but get(x, key) isn't)?
 
They just added a specific rule when a name is followed with < and it happens to correspond to a function template
Not sure how that may answer your question
 
3:08 PM
@sehe file a bug, partial ordering is the way to go about these things
 
@LucDanton Oh. That topic I've keenly avoided understanding until now
@Morwenn It does!
 
Oh, uh, nice I guees then?
 
template <class T>
const T& get(const T* pa, std::ptrdiff_t k)
that does look unfortunate, if that’s the right one
thankfully there are many ordered overloads
@sehe tl;dr don’t write all T [const]& parameters for extensible functions, and especially do not write T&& parameters
 
@LucDanton That has me even more lost :) I thought foo(T, U, V) and foo(T*, U*, V*) adds all the associated namespaces for T, U and V to the ADL lookup anyhow
 
@sehe being found is not the problem (well…), dubious ranking/ordering that leads to interference is the undesirable part; remember, ADL is the 'feature'
 
3:18 PM
I love ADL. I use it as a feature. Which is why I don't mind having to "enable" it some of the time (gives me the opportunity not to - aware of other disabling strategies FTR)
 
@sehe that only really gives 'ranking' in a degenerate way though
 
@LucDanton Ranking/ordering plays up even in simpler scenarious (write a variant visitor that has some generic operator() overloads; now add the catch all...)
@LucDanton True enough. It does feel dirty having to think about it.
 
@sehe how often does it happen? (bonus: potention global namespace pollution)
oh, are you writing your own get to 'adapt' std::tuple? mind showing it?
 
@LucDanton I meant using the tuple as a property map. Not in one.
@LucDanton I was making up a sample, taking the first other thing that uses get that came to mind.
I have written property map adaptors, but nothing working with a fixed-size underlying storage
 
@Morwenn Yes I remember
 
3:28 PM
@sehe yeah I was just wanting to mix several flavours of get
 
@mje So, I've cobbled up that thing using Boost Multi Index: Live On Coliru. It uses a hashed_non_unique index for the color-side of the map. I'm not sure how this would be more efficient (I'd say ordered might be faster, but you can easily switch and profile it now). (PS. Do I get a cookie?. I learned how to create my very own Boost Property Map adaptor to model a ReadWritePropertyMap, yay!)sehe Nov 17 '14 at 0:24
@LucDanton As long as they're on different types, it's ok. As soon as you get conflicting accessors from different namespaces you're in trouble I guess
(mental note: learn about what partial ordering really is this time)
I remember last time I looked for info on that I found that "Flaming Dangerzone" was offline. Oder so etwas
 
@sehe where are the qualified uses?
 
They're not there, otherwise there would never be a thing to break if this happens, right?
 
@sehe that’s a technicality and a syntactical one in nature on top of that, don’t worry about it
anyhoo, I thought you had disambiguation issues
 
nwp
3:45 PM
What demon wrote the API you are using? — Christian Gibbons 1 min ago
 
humanprogrammerd
 
@ElectricRodent_ @BradAvery_ @nataliesurely You did this on purpose right? You really went and repeated the point 3 times. For no reason, when it was absolutely redundant and didn't actually add a lot of, if any, real value :): 'Nice, but still over 140 characters, even when dropping space, "who" and grammar concerns' FTFY
Taking it meta
 
3:58 PM
EWG unanimously wants Default constructible and assignable stateless lambdas
 
I'd like move assignable lambdas
 
I'd like hugs
 
hugs are nice
 
yes :3
 
@milleniumbug what’s next, sensible references?
 
4:05 PM
LEWG seems ok with hash_combine
 
took them long enough
 
<bit> also heading for C++20
Multidimensional Array View with Polymorphic will apparently land in Library Fundamentals TS v3
Integral power-of-2 operations will also likely end up in <bit>
 
hi
 
hello
 
hey :D
 
4:18 PM
what's up?
 
Usual C++ committee meeting report of what I somewhat understand :p
You?
 
trying to resurrect my motivation atm
 
to write c++?
 
Ven
lol being motivated
i'm just writing functor instances now
this is my life
 
at this point, writing anything
 
4:20 PM
@milleniumbug You're writing chat messages, it's a start :D
 
nwp
Writing in the lounge is totally productive. Right? Right ...
 
I have mobile app project on uni and I don't know ASP.NET (for server side) and Xamarin.Forms doesn't deploy neither on an emulator nor my mobile phone
I wonder if reinstalling everything will help
 
@Morwenn I'm trying to make use of my free time to work on stuff I didn't have the time to work on before
At home it's okay, but I'm visiting at my parents' and it's nearly impossible.
 
@slaphappy Eh, if you've got the motivation it's cool ^.^
Oh ^^'
 
@LucDanton :O
 
4:23 PM
if someone wants to check it out: github.com/slaphappybee/65h
Once I'm happy with this one I'm going to do a C++ project as well to keep updated with the latest version.
 
heeey sup @slaphappy :D
 
Hi!
 
you drop by tomorrow?
 
what? why?
 
Just to meet up
No reason
 
Ven
4:29 PM
yo @slaphappy
 
nwp
That's what all the serial killers say!
 
That's also what friends say
 
I'm not in Paris atm
 
@nwp Ahahah
 
nwp
4:56 PM
@Morwenn There is some fierce competition building up. Watch out!
 
5:20 PM
@nwp because code deduplication involves more language features and it is well known that humans can not hold unlimited number of ideas in cache.
 
5:46 PM
And quality of these features and their suitability for tasks is another important story (I feel bad for saying obvious things).
 
owww....
OP: "Guys, how do I properly use a knife to comb my hair? It hurts and I see a lot of blood."
Everyone else: "Don't use a knife to comb your hair. Use a comb instead."
OP: "I solved it! I'll use use a dull knife instead so it doesn't hurt as much and there's less blood."
Everyone else: "You're an idiot."
> make sure that the code are well commented.
 
@milleniumbug Hurray, solved stackoverflow.com/a/47208619/1012936 /cc @JohanLarsson
 
6:39 PM
@nwp I'm not worried :p
 
@Mysticial This is my new favorite analogy xD
 
@Borgleader Nah, your retirement fund analogy cannot be beaten. Period.
 
std::accumulate and friends will be mandated to use std::move /o/
Abbreviated Lambdas => Rejected
 
6:56 PM
is static reflection going in
 
I don't know about reflections, the subgroup seems slow
The problem is that they got several big concurrent proposals, and no easy to tell which one was obviously better
They started with the reflexpr proposal, which produced types, but now want a more value-based one IIRC
 
oh no
 
That plus whatever can influence the metaclasses proposals
 
at least it won't be that horrible underpowered thing with specific syntax
 
I know that there were supposed to review a specific proposal about reflecting functions this week
One of the problems is that C++ is already a super-complex language, so nobody actually knows what a "correct" reflection proposal would look like
 
7:01 PM
the metaclass one was good
 
Looks like they're being less random than a few years ago, but that's hardly fast
 
they should just listen to me and do it
 
Yeah, but the metaclass relies on static reflection, code injection and somehow concepts, so it will hardly be available before long x)
At least it motivated people and now they've got a clearer direction :p
 
yeah.
maybe they could just cut a bit off and just put that in
2
 
Still hard to do: they don't want to make choices that they will regret later x)
 
7:03 PM
yep.
 
I don't think we'll have much regarding reflection in C++20
 
that means agreeing on the overall design right now
 
But eh, we've finally got concepts
 
it's incredibly slow
 
And they're pushing to get semi-big features fast like the datetime & timezone library and the operator<=> proposal
Both are fairly recent
Also the Ranges TS is gaining additional components by the meeting :p
I don't follow the Networking TS much, but it looks like it might be ready for C++20
 
7:06 PM
what's the spaceship for?
I don't really care about what could be in boost tbh
 
Basically you write operator<=> and you get all the comparison operations generated for you
 
ah yes good
this was a pita
 
the spaceship is for getting away from your C++ job
 
At least people agree that it solves the problem of automagic comparisons + it also solves the problem of partial/weak/total order
And you can even ask the compiler to = default the operator<=> for you
Looking at the straw polls, it looks like no big feature will be voted for inclusion into C++20 this week :/
> Allow pack expansion in lambda init-capture 6 | 15 | 3 | 0 | 0
Oh, the new <bit> header should also host bit_cast
std::expected to land in Library Fundamentals TS v3
 
7:34 PM
Parallel index-based algorithms with reduction and induction support might land in the next Parallelism TS
[[nodiscard]] in some parts of the standard library for C++20
 
7:53 PM
<bit>?
 
4 hours ago, by Morwenn
<bit> also heading for C++20
 
For now they plan to put a few bit-manipulation functions in, some functions with integer power-of-2 and the bit_cast function
I don't know whether bit_iterator and friends will land in that header too
After having piled abstractions upon abstractions, the C++ committee comes back to bits :D
 
nwp
Maybe they ran out of room on top and discovered you can add layers on the bottom.
 
bit_iterator, bit_reference and bit_value are still smart abstractions though
 
@nwp are you insinuating c++ is too abstract
 
8:01 PM
no
 
nwp
@slaphappy nah, got to get your layers in wherever you can
In theory you could only have std::bit and every other type such as int is built from that.
And as I have learned from google: compilation times are a non-issue. Just buy more computers.
 
ah yes
can't go faster than building the biggest file and linking though
huge issue at work since we have files with a lot of tmp in it that are pretty long to compile
 
nwp
I have decided not to think about compile times as long as travis needs longer to download Qt and g++ than compiling the code.
Which is around 5 minutes.
 
Yeah, optimizing the Travis build altogether is more than just optimizing compile times
I tried to do that recently: update Catch to Catch2, enable Catch macros to leave out things I don't care about, enable ccache and apt cache on Travis, and parallelize make
I would give results, but times on Travis aren't that consistent, and Catch2 broke my build anyway x)
 
isn't there cache for that?
 
what for?
 
nwp
Travis has a cache system, but they say downloading from the cache server takes the same time as just downloading from source and is discouraged. You are only supposed to use it for things that are small to download and take a long time to compute. (source).
 
got it
 
I love how people always complain about MSVC in /r/cpp yet MSVC devs are always there lurking :p
 
8:52 PM
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