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His banter in chat matches his banter in mumble.
That's my theory.
@Xeo Hey, that's my idea.
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@RMartinhoFernandes No, yours was with bounties
@RMartinhoFernandes That was my hunch too. His style matches the chat messages he contributes :)
@RMartinhoFernandes Ooh, ok, sounds interesting.
@sehe CAn you check listener's IP now ? Is it croatian ?
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Btw, what's Mumble?
@Xeo It's the bane of Lounge<c++>
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10:01
I got that it is some kind of VoIP app, but anything special about it?
Sehe has a Mumble server.
@Xeo It sucks. And works.
No, it doesn't work. If I need to calibrate the microphone manually, it does not work. The application should do that for me.
Yes, the special part is that it's designed to garfunkle this chat.
@Xeo it's basically a voice based chat room, rather then just text
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10:02
Maybe I'm just too used to seeing TeamSpeak used everywhere that I don't know anything else (except the occasional Skype and Vent)
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah you thought the same thing. I like it a lot, BTW
Skype pwns Mumble in the ass; Skype just works. Never had any problems with the mic when using Skype.
@ScarletAmaranth I'll check later. I'm at work. Ahem
@sehe Oh, naturally :)
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and TS3 kicks Skype's ass for just VoIPing around
10:03
Skype's been lacking since Micro$oft bought it.
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Seriously, Skype's config options wrt sound are just sooo limited.
Not to mention converting free services to paid ones.
@RadekdaknokSlupik other then stupid auto volume levelling kicking in
@ScarletAmaranth That's true, and the mobile client got fucking ugly ever since. Stupid Metro.
Though it's still working. I use the older Skype client.
VoIP sucks.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Oh that explains that the Skype app is all but completely broken since a few months then
10:05
Skype now probably only works well on Windows Phone and Windows.
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@RadekdaknokSlupik Having the wrong VoIP app sucks
Sucking sucks. Not that I have any experience, but that's what I heard.
Okay, let me put this differently then:
Speaking sucks.
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@RadekdaknokSlupik Having the wrong internet sucks.
Oh wait...
Argh, magical stealth edits!
@RMartinhoFernandes So the robot's out of his closet. Gratz for finding yourself! :P
Wut?
I have no idea what that means.
10:07
That's only a good thing ^^
You found yourself outside of your closet.
I'm writing a bug tracker.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Gonna track down Cicada as well ?
@RadekdaknokSlupik How will you track the bugs on it?
@RMartinhoFernandes People submit them.
Affirmative.
(@RMartinhoFernandes)
10:09
@ScarletAmaranth lol I need a name for it first. Shall I call it Cicada? xD
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@RadekdaknokSlupik Shoot, I want a tracker that automatically finds the bugs and enlists them.
@ScarletAmaranth Dammit, now I'll spend the entire day wondering. :S
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Coming out (of the closet) is a figure of speech for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people's disclosure of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity. Framed and debated as a privacy issue, coming out of the closet is described and experienced variously as a psychological process or journey; decision-making or risk-taking; a strategy or plan; a mass or public event; a speech act and a matter of personal identity; a rite of passage; liberation or emancipation from oppression; an ordeal; a means toward feeling gay pride instead of shame and social stigma; or even caree...
The first ten million years were the worst, and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline.
Oh. That.
I was trying to say I don't suck, as in, I'm awesome.
10:09
@Xeo I can make it use clang's static analyzer and valgrind to find memory leaks. :P
You guys are always thinking about sex. It's almost as if you were... guys.
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@RMartinhoFernandes Suuuure.
@RMartinhoFernandes Explication is a bitch :-)
@RadekdaknokSlupik With a parser that does spelling suggestions?
10:10
@sehe No.
One with a decent UI.
@RadekdaknokSlupik UI programming, weeeee, sooo much FUN!
That doesn't look ugly.
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@RadekdaknokSlupik Ahahahaha, good luck.
UI programming is pure mesmerized FUN. The embodiment of fun.
@RadekdaknokSlupik decent UI? lol
10:11
It's feasy to make it look good.
UI Boat programming.
Prij programming.
It's a bug tracker.
I don't like uien.
UI? WTF?
The uglier it is, the less bugs people submit.
It's a good thing.
10:12
@sehe Do you do C++ in your job btw ? Or some managed nonsense :) ?
@RadekdaknokSlupik Remember cognitive dissonance. No one will experience a bug tracker like fun, even if it smells like baby powder and bakes you an omelet in the morning.
Okay okay I need a name first.
@RMartinhoFernandes no. the uglier it is, the more they bitch and moan
"The BUGINATOR"
10:13
@ScarletAmaranth Currently, the latter. It's about 50/50 really and I'm currently in a C++-deprived patch
Buginator 3000.
The Bane of Bugs
@RadekdaknokSlupik Nice woordgrap
The Last Bug
10:14
Name it after some insects latin name.
That's just insectum
@RadekdaknokSlupik Prei programming FTFY
Prei (Allium ampeloprasum var. porrum, synoniem: Allium porrum) is een plant uit de lookfamilie (Alliaceae), die als groente wordt gegeten. Prei is het meest verwant aan twee andere planten die als groente worden gegeten: de olifantsknoflook (Allium ampeloprasum var. ampeloprasum) en de kurrat (Allium ampeloprasum var. kurrat) De Sumerische koning Urnammu liet rond 2100 v.Chr. al prei telen in de tuinen van Ur. Bekend is dat ook de Egyptische piramidebouwers, de Grieken en de Romeinen prei aten. Vervolgens is de groente over heel Europa verspreid. Vanwege de aanwezige mosterdolie in pre...
I hate Mumble. Why the FUCK does it put certificates in my DOCUMENTS folder>?!>! -_-
10:14
@ScarletAmaranth Arg. That's not it, but it won't pop into my head either
@sehe meh I always get IJ and EI wrong.
@RadekdaknokSlupik cause it's Unix software and it puts certificates in /home/*/.mumble?
@sehe I'm gonna use the almighty google translator :P
@sehe said the duchess to the vicar
Hexapoda sounds cool.
10:15
@RMartinhoFernandes Osmia ribifloris.
Good one.
Nobody will remember that.
@rubenvb It's Mac OS X software so it should put its certificates in ~/Library/Application Support/Mumble/.
I like Hexapoda.
@sehe Mhm, google translate doesn't know :-( The world has come to an end.
@sehe According to wikipedia, it is.
@ScarletAmaranth I was thinking of ἔντομος, entomos, I suppose. But that's just the Greek for insect (Latin). So you sould simply be right
The class is named insecta, which I believe is just the plural form of insectum.
Thanks. Robot is up to speed again
Insects (from Latin ', a calque of Greek ['], "cut into sections") are a class of living creatures within the arthropods that have a chitinous exoskeleton, a three-part body (head, thorax, and abdomen), three pairs of jointed legs, compound eyes, and two antennae. They are among the most diverse groups of animals on the planet, including more than a million described species and representing more than half of all known living organisms. The number of extant species is estimated at between six and ten million, and potentially represent over 90% of the differing metazoan life forms on Eart...
10:18
Wikipedia providing better translations than google translate since <insert the correct wiki year>.
@sehe Are you talking about the etymology of entomology?
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Hehe, nice one.
@ScarletAmaranth wiki translate is awesome.
@KonradRudolph In a way. Apparently, the Latin insectum is a calque of Greek ἔντομον [éntomon]
That's too complicated, let's just call it "The sodding things".
10:19
Damn. Now I need to google `calque`.
Or, I could go have lunch
@KonradRudolph I know what both those mean, but can't for the life of me recall which way around they are
@sehe Word-by-word translation.
@ScarletAmaranth That's more like puppy idiom
@RMartinhoFernandes Thx.
@thecoshman The sentence only makes sense one way.
@sehe Possibly, he infected me yesterday maybe. Also it turns out, it's really difficult to facepalm in voicechat :-/
10:20
At high school George W Bush was the Head Cheerleader
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@thecoshman I bet @Konrad had to look them up, too.
You know, now I'm trapped on Wikipedia reading about insects.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Because you use a lousy client?
@sbi Nope.
either QI elves are trolling, or Bush is stranger then I ever imagined
10:21
But then, I’ve had five years of Latin at school, and one year of Ancient Greek
@sehe I use the official client.
@RMartinhoFernandes true, but I will not have that sentence with me at all times
@KonradRudolph One year of Ancient Greek whaaaat o_O ?
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Feb 10 at 8:16, by sbi
If you think TVTropes is bad, try Wikipedia. I followed the link to ellipsis and now, half an hour later, find myself stranded on Thor Heyerdahl's page, without any recollection of what happened in between, and a primordial fear of using my browsers history to find out, lest I get lost again...
10:21
@thecoshman I think it makes for a good mnemonic.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Officially crappy platform client then
@KonradRudolph Likewise here
@thecoshman Well, pics or it didn't happen
@sbi Gosh. I was about to start another of those conversations that consist exclusively of quotes from the previous conversation.
@sehe you ask the Elves
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@KonradRudolph I would have said the same, were I in your place.
@KonradRudolph What's the point of Ancient Greek again ? :)
10:23
@thecoshman that's an old one.
@sbi You value being honest.
@ScarletAmaranth Showing off your geekness.
hi rubenvb
@ScarletAmaranth None. Or, as they would say in Ancient Greek, … fuckall, I don’t remember that sh*t.
@rubenvb it's only an hour old, come on, the internet doesn't move that fast
10:24
Dat deserves a star.
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May 12 at 23:34, by sbi
@sehe Actually, I make most of my browsing on Wikipedia nowadays. I continuously get lost in it. There's a few tabs I must have had open for months, always meaning to, some day, get back to them and finish reading whatever I once ran out of time over. For me, it isn't TVTropes. I just find Wikipedia dangerously amazing.
Really, I don't find it funny.
@KonradRudolph I mean, Latin almost fails to be useful, not to mention, Ancient Greek o_O
hi rubenvb
Also, how did they manage to get someone to teach Ancient Greek o_O ?
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10:24
Apr 17 at 16:04, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@sbi What's so funny about it?
I'm being trolled, right?
Hey, I'm having a really hard time getting gcc 4.7.1 to work (g++ specifically, using mingw64 on windows 7). I keep getting compile errors about template parameters not being declared in stringfwd.h, _mingwsecapi.h, and a bunch of other headers (all compiler files or stdlib files). Has anyone experienced this?
@RMartinhoFernandes no, sbi is just in a very strange mood it seems
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Feb 7 at 20:41, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Hint: you're being trolled.
Hey, I'm having a really hard time getting gcc 4.7.1 to work (g++ specifically, using mingw64 on windows 7). I keep getting compile errors about template parameters not being declared in stringfwd.h, _mingwsecapi.h, and a bunch of other headers (all compiler files or stdlib files). Has anyone experienced this?
10:25
@ScarletAmaranth It has quite a tradition in some German schools (humanist education) and I guess it is somewhat interesting but there are so many things that are interesting and no Ancient Greek does not have the priority there
¬_¬ ok, now that's socking, and TWO accounts to ignore
LOL
that was easy
@thecoshman The joke is like 5 years old. Or maybe even ten by now.
@MichelleSmith where'd you get GCC 4.7.1?
To the person I just ignored TWICE, try not to be a dick in the future
10:26
@kmore I hope you didn't think we were discussing anything even closely related to C++ here o_O
@rubenvb but I posted my comment just minutes ago, how can that be ten years ago?
@thecoshman TIIIIME PARADOX! :)
@ScarletAmaranth haha, I've been here enough
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FWIW, I flagged @kmore and @MichelleSmith for the mods to look into suckpuppetry.
@MichelleSmith why did you repeat exactly what I ttyped?
10:27
@thecoshman I was obviously saying (fully spelled out): the joke you posted is old and not able to tickle my laughter anymore.
@sbi I'm real... I don't know what just happened
it depends on my mood
@sbi well done, probably better then me just ignoring him :P
@sbi It seems @kmore is legit but @Michelle is echoing us.
@rubenvb #trolling
10:28
3 mins ago, by kmore
Hey, I'm having a really hard time getting gcc 4.7.1 to work (g++ specifically, using mingw64 on windows 7). I keep getting compile errors about template parameters not being declared in stringfwd.h, _mingwsecapi.h, and a bunch of other headers (all compiler files or stdlib files). Has anyone experienced this?
wow seems like a bad reply thing
my bad
Flagging isn't really going to help, I suppose
@RMartinhoFernandes why you say that?
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@RMartinhoFernandes Oh well. I suppose the mods will find that out.
@thecoshman Because that's what I'm seeing.
wtf. The permalink show kmore, but I see Michelle Smith as the writer
10:29
42 secs ago, by Michelle Smith
@sbi It seems @kmore is legit but @R. Martinho is echoing us.
@RMartinhoFernandes I've been coming here on and off for a few months... I'm sure that the logs will reveal I'm not some troll
Somethings messed up.
@kmore I reiterate: where'd you get GCC 4.7.1?
@RMartinhoFernandes ahh, some sort of troll script maybe?
maybe I should un-ignore Kmore...
@kmore I know. I was trying to tell that to the others.
@RMartinhoFernandes Precisely (@sbi kmore is a semi-regular)
10:31
there, @Kmore sorry for being what seemed to be too hasty to ignore you :(
@thecoshman no problem
@sehe hemi-regular, 'hemi' doesn't get used enough
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@sehe Well, then validate the flags and let's get rid of that troll Michelle Smith.
@thecoshman You can start a hemi room :)
Why on Earth is the new C++11 standard 30eur ...
10:32
@kmore those are crt (OS headers and libs) zips, no GCC at that link. There's a ton of toolchains on the mingw-w64 site (among others, mine). Please link to the exact file you're having problems with.
No need to encourage me, ape :)
@ScarletAmaranth what currency is 'eur'?
@ScarletAmaranth Are you amazed that it’s so cheap or so expensive?
@ScarletAmaranth Some people complain when it was 300. Now you complain when it is 30?
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Whats an "hemispherical regular"?
10:33
@ScarletAmaranth Because it is out of date
@thecoshman Euros?
ISO always charges money for their standards
@RMartinhoFernandes #trolling
@sbi Not me, I'm not fat.
@ScarletAmaranth because you can get it (or a more up to date document) here: stackoverflow.com/users/46642/r-martinho-fernandes (see his description, it has a link)
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10:33
@thecoshman €
@thecoshman That was a bad troll then. EUR is the ISO code for the currency, so it's perfectly acceptable.
@sbi equally, whats "semi-circle regular"
@RMartinhoFernandes TIL
@KonradRudolph Well, I reckon it's expensive, but maybe that's just my being delusional.
@rubenvb codepad.org/5TDqER99 is one of the exact files. the compiler complains at line 48: error: '__dsttype' has not been declared. codepad.org/MuVs9GWa is another with the same style of error at line 47: "error: '_Alloc' has not been declared"
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@thecoshman It was "semi-regular".
10:34
@ScarletAmaranth you've not brought any computing books have you
@thecoshman I have, many actually.
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@thecoshman Brought to where?
@sbi I applied the same logic you did "hemi-regular"
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@thecoshman So what does "hemi" stand for, if not "hemispherical"? I haven't found any other meaning.
@thecoshman I'm sorry if you mentioned this before, and don't take it the wrong way, but... are you dyslexic?
10:35
@sbi :( I know there is another spelling, but I have no idea what it is. Does it have a 'w' in it?
@sbi what does 'semi' stand for?
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Sometimes, I wish room owners had the power to just kick people out
I hope I haven't spent all this time joking about your typos if you're dyslexic. I'd feel bad.
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@thecoshman "bought" is the past of "buy"
@RMartinhoFernandes officially, no
@thecoshman Unofficially ?
10:37
@kmore I meant the toolchains. If you're going to link code, post the code exhibiting the problem so I can try to reproduce with my builds.
@sbi oooh, so I just slipped in a 'r' and changed the meaning. That's going to bite me in the arse plenty more I am sure
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@Xeo Between you, @sehe, and me, we're three who want him out. If two more validate any of the flags, he's gone.
@ScarletAmaranth I have no medical diagnosis, just a lot of very strong signs that I probably am dyslexic, although probably not that badly
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@RMartinhoFernandes You did.
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@sbi I think it was 4 per flag that validated
10:38
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 29 minutes
@thecoshman Is there any help to be had should you decide to do something about it officailly ?
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finally
Not nearly enough but it'll do
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I was just about to involve a mod
@Xeo A mod was already called for sockpuppetry
10:38
@RMartinhoFernandes I am sure there have been plenty of times where my likely dyslexic ways have been talked about. but no need to worry about
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Oh wow
@sbi Are you just trying to make me feel bad, now? (Id est, trolling again?)
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Seems I missed something
I need to get better at this.
I strongly suspect neerad, jaffa and michelle are at least linked (@Xeo @sbi)
10:39
@rubenvb sorry. I've tried a number of different builds of the toolchain, but here's the exact file I downloaded: code.google.com/p/mingw-w64-dgn/downloads/…
@ScarletAmaranth to what end? The only advantage I can see to have a bit of paper saying I am dyslexic, is that I have a bit of paper saying I am dyslexic
@thecoshman Yeah then scraw it :)
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@sehe 29mins? Then only one flag has been validated.
@RMartinhoFernandes go on...
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I validated all of 'em
10:40
@kmore OK. That's recent. Can you post a small example of code that causes the error you're seeing? (you could also join #mingw-w64 on oftc.net, this would be more on-topic there)
@thecoshman See edit.
@sbi I don't think it means that.
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@Xeo All the better.
@Xeo We all did, I'm sure
@RMartinhoFernandes oh screw you!
god damn tvtropes
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10:40
@sehe I think suspension times add.
Yes, they do add.
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@thecoshman Thx.
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@thecoshman Psht! That one might have just gone past @sbi's watching eye!
@rubenvb thanks for the IRC channel--I had been trying to find one. I'll bring this discussion over there
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@Xeo You wish!
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10:41
@sehe Wait, Michelle Smith.. We just had a John Smith in here, earlier
@Xeo fool! You think a single link to tvt can get past @Sbi?
@sbi Yeah but 'validating' a flag is a user action. I think more validated flags produce a single 'ban unit'
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@sehe Oh.
@Xeo True. The most common name in the US
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@sehe Yes, but of extended duration.
10:42
@kmore I'm in #mingw-w64 a lot, and am the helpful type (most of the time ;-))
@sehe If you have 5 flag-confirmed(?) messages, you get 150 minutes of suspension.
I've seen it before.
@sbi I think bans add. Also, bans will likely be longer for repeat offenders
@Xeo wait till 'John Doe' shows up
@sehe Do you also have to validate flags for moderator attention or only the spam/offensive ones?
Mods can intervene and manually up the ante to months, at least.
10:42
@KillianDS The mod flags are mod-only
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@sehe No, you get a 30mins ban for each of your messages being flag-validated. And those add up.
@Xeo, seriously, that one was just totally random.
At least I try to make mine be related or convey extra meaning.
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@RMartinhoFernandes It wasn't entirely
@sbi is there any way to link to tropes?
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@thecoshman Sure. When I'm asleep.
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10:44
I was looking for a fitting trope for me suspecting that the John Smith guy is involved, and I ended up on Paranoia
and then I looked at the spoiler
and lol'd :(
@sbi Ok. Strange, then. I can only guess that users in other rooms have invalidated the more innocuous looking ones
@sbi what if you where using it to legitit (I got stuck) explain something?
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> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 1 hour 22 minutes.
Third one validated
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@Xeo That would be three actually.
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I can't math today.
10:45
A friend asked me "What would you like people to say at your funeral?"I said "Preferably: "Look at that! She"s fucking coming back to life!"
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@sehe Yeah, each invalidation sets the bar higher for the flag to get validated. (So does each "dunno" reaction, but much less so.)
@Xeo So... I was just very quick/early to notice
@thecoshman I regularly link to the Blatant Lies article to hint that I'm well, lying, and he usually bins it. But this time it seems he left the Wild Mass Guessing pass for some reason.
@sbi Exactly
10:46
Btw, you can change from "dunno" to "valid" or "invalid".
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@RMartinhoFernandes Uh, no, he didn't
@RMartinhoFernandes but what if you where trying to explain to someone something like 'breaking the forth wall'?
@Xeo Oh, it's still on my screen.
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@thecoshman See, if it weren't for all those bait linking to TVTropes, I would consider it. But now that it has become a sport to sneak them past me, would you expect me to look at each of them?
Guess I should refresh or something.
10:48
@sbi presumably though, you just hover over the link and see the trope it is linking too.
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@sbi's motto: "No troping. Violators will be shot. Survivors will be shot again."
in Yaarron ki Mehfil...! :), 21 mins ago, by Michelle Smith
my name is michelle smith and iam 10 years old
in Yaarron ki Mehfil...! :), 20 mins ago, by Michelle Smith
oops sorry 10 means 100
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@RMartinhoFernandes You talking 'bout me? I never look at those links further than to find the substring "tvtropes".
^^ And much more trolling in other rooms
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Sigh
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10:50
@sehe All flagged. Just keep flagging them, and the troll might well be out of business for a few days. And if some mod sees the mess, the account will be banned for half a year.
@sbi So, you're losing all the subtle meanings I add to my messages!
@sbi I don't think I care enough. Yet.
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@RMartinhoFernandes There's nothing subtle about linking to tvtropes. It's mean.
Of course I'll validate correct flags. I'll just not hunt for anything to flag.
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10:52
@sehe Haha! You are silly. You did all the hunting, you just didn't flag!
@sbi I guess that proves I didn't care enough. Opinions of others matter to me, though.
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> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 2 hours 14 minutes. — Michelle Smith
It's not a contradiction, but a mild paradox, true maybe. (I said: I don't hunt to flag; just curiosity)
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> Whenever you're feeling "uppity and proud", remember you had to learn not to poop your pants at one time too. – Debbie Howard
^I actually liked that one even better.
@sbi that's great :D
10:56
@sbi In all fairness, the trope links are a lot less intrusive to the chat, IMO.
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@sehe You got a point there. Better?
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@sehe They're the subtle kind of trap. Once you're in, though, you have a problem. Most of those that get trapped, anyways.
Yeah, I do think you are being a bit OTT with your trope binning
@sbi I wonder if I could magic up an auto hot key script to do this for me...
I know, but people can just learn to be picky about following links.
Also, pretending this room isn't (often) about wasting time would be hypocrisy
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@thecoshman Ottawa? Office of Technology Transfer? Oh, "Over the top"!
10:59
any hoops
lunch time
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Well, if y'all think I should leave them links, I will leave them. Shrug.
@thecoshman Indeed. afk

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