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Ell
12:04 PM
well I'm glad that's over
where is the unconf votes?
 
Nonius didn't create an HTML file :(
 
user1804599
Lack of HTML is a delight.
 
Well, when I explicitly request an HTML file, I want an HTML file.
 
whoas
are all the old guys leaving
 
user3790646
I'd really like to get my external IP through Boost ;-;
 
@Morwenn which link should I put for mingw?
 
@ScarletAmaranth the lack of a new guard makes me miss the old guard all the more :(
 
Ell
12:29 PM
c++ is either doomed to fail or will have an injection of new peeps wanting to remove old cruft
or it will just continue as usual :P
 
I'd take Stepanov over Andrei / Scott / Herb / STL anyday :(
 
Ell
@ScarletAmaranth that advertisement is very suttle :P
 
@slaphappy Not sure. There are several solutions between their main page and the download page on SourceForge.
 
@Morwenn you're the expert :p
okay just add it afterwards
 
Ell
pls not SourceForge
 
12:32 PM
@slaphappy That page could do it.
 
@slaphappy Just link to MSYS2
 
Or the official page: mingw-w64.org/doku.php
 
Ell
or cygwin
 
Ell
yeah I second official page
why would you link to download link instead of project site?
argh freakin' hell
why is haskell rebuilding alllll the time
 
12:34 PM
@Ell Because it's Haskell, duh
@slaphappy #7 plz
 
Ell
> emerge: (4 of 226)
 
@Ell Because the project site isn't really useful and finding what you want in their download page is not easy.
 
Ell
RIP
 
@slaphappy It might be worth mentionning that the MSVC build tools are available separately.
 
they are?
oh yeah I recall something like that
 
12:43 PM
They are.
 
Guise, we're holding a contest for a favicon for loungesome-cpp. Submit your entries here. The dankest will be selected and put up.
 
bonus points for awesome logo likeness
 
Ven
bonus points for doge
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Can I submit my entire rare Pepe collection?
 
12:46 PM
Okay, that's fresh take on jazz I guess /cc @Morwenn npr.org/2016/01/19/463589100/…
 
@TonyTheLion In favicon format, yes
 
user1804599
fresh jizz
 
@набиячлэвэлиь so what's this then: github.com/fffaraz/awesome-cpp
 
@sehe Now that's fresh :D
 
12:49 PM
@sehe A repository on github
 
I'd take Andrei and STL over the lot.
Smart and gets things done. Andrei doesn't linger. I like it.
@набиячлэвэлиь ah
 
@Morwenn y u fork
Join LoungeCPP and you'll have Write
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Because not being able to write won't make me not write.
 
@sehe a list of c++ libraries, not curated at all.
 
Ell
@sehe yes! andrei is awesome
My favourite speakers are Anrdrei & Sean Parent
 
12:53 PM
I like STL I think. He seems to be a cool dude.
 
@Morwenn y u no lounge membership
 
@slaphappy Do I know?
 
@Morwenn First it's stdlib
 
you fools, it’s all about Dave Abrahams ;_;
 
Ven
@slaphappy lounge wuterwhat
 
12:56 PM
@Andy are you around
 
@Ven membership? on github
 
Ven
ah, okay
 
morwenn doesn't appear in autocompletion. how are we supposed to get any work done ????
 
Ven
i'm not member either, so vOv
 
user3790646
@sehe I searched the whole web but couldn't find a single thing about what I'm trying to do, I want to connect to my home server from another computer, but it seems like there's no tutorial on the web on doing that, they just connect to the IPv4 address and send that from other clients from the same computer
 
12:58 PM
@sehe What is this "smart and gets things done" buzzphrase
 
@ScarletAmaranth googleable
It's also a pretty trivial combination of English words with the obvious meaning
@Andrey "send that from other clients from the same computer" wat
 
I used to think that those were the only two attributes required in a new hire, but now I would advise to add "not a psycho" to the list.
 
@sehe oh god; it's some of the Spolski's nonsense
 
1) smart 2) get things done 3) not a psycho
it's your recruitement criteria
 
What is "get things done"
 
1:00 PM
@ScarletAmaranth what a wat to do an innocuous two-step set-up for your hobby horse.
 
@slaphappy thats my criteria for a girlfriend
 
@AngryLettuce It means "if you select on smart only, you get all the aspies and otherwise dysfunctional pedants"
 
@TonyTheLion get things done :lenny: where "things" is "you"
 
@sehe :(
 
@slaphappy lol
 
1:01 PM
wow being a LoungeCPP member means I can commit directly to loungesome-cpp
 
amaze
 
user3790646
@sehe send Data*
 
I probably shouldn't push directly to master I think
 
@Andrey that totally clarified. Thanks
 
@AngryLettuce people who have an attitude of getting shit to move on, code written, and not discuss endlessly stupid details
 
1:02 PM
@Morwenn i <3 STL
 
@milleniumbug yeah, we trust you with that great power.
 
@Andrey why would you send Data, he's only an android =/
 
@milleniumbug Why not?
 
@slaphappy Even if you write shit?
 
@AngryLettuce "smart" assumes you don't write shit
 
1:04 PM
Okay
Don't know how to feel about myself then
I'm neither a pedant nor get things done
:D
 
but those don't account for ability to work in a team, or, more generally, ability to sit near someone without driving him raving insane
so - "not a psycho"
 
@AngryLettuce but you're just lovable <3 <3
 
@AngryLettuce well, you can't work at fog creek.
@AngryLettuce but don't worry I know plenty of places where they hire people who don't get anything done
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I mean I should first create other branch, and push to that (to not break accidentally the gh page)
also I suggest adding clang-format
 
The thing is I don't like to piss code
Meh I think I'm just not made for software as a job
 
1:06 PM
it must hurt
 
@milleniumbug Open an issue, name it "Discuss tools", suggest clang-format there
 
Ven
Nooo sOs is down :[
 
@AngryLettuce Sup
 
Ven
omg it's cat
 
@milleniumbug buggeh plz, if you're not completely shit with MD there's no problem
 
1:08 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь done
 
Cat has arrived
This is the time where my starboard domination is about to end
 
Cat's recipe for stars: :3
 
@Borgleader "everything is shit :3"
 
that's a fact
 
Ven
1:13 PM
@AngryLettuce hey, I was enjoying having 3 with "Ven" in 'em.
 
That Meeting C++ talk about hierarchical iterators is rather interesting.
 
@Morwenn what does it say?
 
@Borgleader That we could have hierarchical iterators for sequences of sequences (e.g. std::vector<std::vector<int>>) and have overloads of some standard algorithms that actually take advantage of the additional information to be more efficient.
 
@Morwenn I smell explosion of complexity?
 
@Borgleader Not really. I am still reading the slides though.
 
1:22 PM
the lides
you always make the funniest typos :)
 
:/
 
Ven
the lies. of the c++ standard committees
@Morwenn link?
 
Ven
ty
 
> Today all the codes used on the internet exploit the primes to keep messages secure bbc/most beautiful equation contest
Dat moment when you insta-cringe at the use of "codes" only to realize a split second after - this time it's ok.
 
1:26 PM
@sehe :D
 
lol: David Cameron has been forced to defend the competency of his government officials after a Home Office press release on English lessons for migrants misspelt the word “language”.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said everyone is “open to mistakes”, adding that he is “fully confident” of his civil servants’ grasp of English.

It comes after the headline of a Home Office policy announcement read: “New English langauge test for family route migrants.”
 
@Borgleader I smell an abstracted notion of trees
 
Note the misuse of double-quotes by the journos^^^^ :)
 
language
 
1:27 PM
langage
 
@MartinJames It's hard to gauge sarcasm in misspellings
@MartinJames well, that devolved quickly
 
@sehe That pun.
 
@sehe PHP
Korean
Can't get any lower than that.
[language-wise]
 
@sehe I'm not sure what you mean.
And actually, I'm not even sure I know in which case this would be useful.
 
1:31 PM
Everytime you have trees (like tours of object graphs)
Which is literally everyday
Generalized traversal is to nested iteration as algorithms are to raw loops.
 
Hmm ok, id probably have to read the slides to have a better idea of how that works.
 
I make ASTs quite a lot. And always end up wiring up traversal visitors manually. In fact I did try to abstract it in my many-flavoured entity<->JSON framework but... it was teh hards
@Borgleader I didn't hear about the talk before. It just insta-resonates
 
AST trees
 
Ell
Hmm
 
I like data-driven in many realms. And often substituting something more tuned complicates all traversal code. It would be awesome to have a way to express the treeness of your data in a clearcut way, after which you can /just/ pass it to a traversal and operate on stuff.
One of the key features, to me, would be "variant value domain" (i.e. different levels can have different types)
Otherwise all you get is a OOP-infected Tree concept (all nodes derive from the same base). Meaning, in essence you get propelled back into the 90's root Objects
 
1:47 PM
I caught a cold :<
excellent weekend ahead
 
You can get rid of cold within 12 hours.
 
I'll just do coldrex
always works
 
a LOT of ginger tea + lemon + honey, take a shower, wash your face and nose after you blow your nose, take a short walk
 
@AlexM. with a regular pokeball?
 
the secret to getting rid of colds for me
is doing it quick enough
to not get addicted to olynth
lol
 
1:50 PM
@Morwenn liiink?
 
Ell
just have vitamin c and sleep ASAP
 
scumbag visual studio
pull merges without asking
 
@ScarletAmaranth ginger tea sounds very intense
I have a mix of white + pear + ginger tea
 
@slaphappy pull merges by default
pull is litterally fetch + merge
 
Ell
^was about to say
damn you @AngryLettuce
2fast4me
 
1:51 PM
@AngryLettuce I know, but I usually rebase
 
Ell
I never get to say anything
 
@slaphappy then git config
@Ell 2gud4u
 
@slaphappy so?
you were raeging that VS did what you asked :|
 
@AlexM. buy fresh ginger, wash, peel, wash again, slice on small pieces -> use mortar and pestle to mash it, pour hot water, wait 7 minutes, add a lot of honey and lemon; optionally remove "debris" from the ginger (drink as hot as you can handle)
 
It's all very funny when you read ginger as the person
 
user1804599
1:53 PM
TIL TABLE t is equivalent to SELECT * FROM t.
 
@AlexM. you can also simply grate the ginger root if you don't have mortar/pestle combo ready
 
@Morwenn I'd love for it to work with more complicated structures. Is it traits based (or, put better, can you define the concept for your own models?)
 
@ScarletAmaranth yea I'll just stick to coldrex, simpler
 
I'm reading it soonish, but kids too
@AngryLettuce #triggered
 
@AlexM. it's totally worth to drink 3 - 4 colossal cups of it within ~12 hours; will save you a lot of time feeling shit
 
1:56 PM
@MadameElyse in what universe
(inb4 pgsql only)
 
I clicked that button
 
Ell
@ScarletAmaranth really?
Does it really work?
 
@Ell well - works for me every single time vOv
 
@slaphappy without context, it's just a refresh/update icon.
 
I haven't had cold for more than half a day for years now
 
1:58 PM
@ScarletAmaranth can i add tea
 
@slaphappy It's 2 adult arrows in a 69 position
 
@jaggedSpire sure, I am no arbiter of proper ginger tea
try it out; if it doesn't help, no big deal
 
@AngryLettuce how do you know it's not just representing any equally-sized individuals of any particular race(s) in a similar position, possibly unaware of it and otherwise involved?
 
@sehe right? I didn't expect it to merge.
 
Ven
@ScarletAmaranth "TIL TABLE" is a funny instruction
 
1:59 PM
@sehe No because then we would get the META POLICE
 
@slaphappy I don't know what to expect because you cropped at 99% of the context
@AngryLettuce Right. My bad
 
>using vs code
>being a person
 
@jaggedSpire the taste of fresh ginger mortar'd / grated is very strong tho, it will probably dominate the tea taste
 
hello, friend /cc @Borgleader @ElimGarak @TonyTheLion @ThePhD @Xeo @набиячлэвэлиь
 
2:01 PM
@slaphappy I must be blind. Not seeing the icon
 
@ScarletAmaranth I've actually had really strong ginger tea before, and it would be interesting to compare the flavors of the two
@sehe we can be blind friends then
but later.
~work time~
 
@slaphappy My point is, if the icon is anchored to a UI representation of the branch head, it makes sense for it to pull
 
@sehe I can't find any screenshot that has it :/ it's on the status bar.
 
@slaphappy And, that is some awesome suckage right there, regardless of what the button does.
The online kind of action button I'd allow on the status bar is "summon detailed status", "switch global mode" (layout|offline|background tasks|disable plugins|...), or - at most "cancel long running operation"
Mutating actions on the task bar => second ring hell
 
@jaggedSpire awwwww hello there :3
 
2:06 PM
@Morwenn I can't find it on YT? (oh the latest one, I see, nvm, I should refresh)
 
@jaggedSpire I thought that was weird at first. Also, lerntostealthplink
 
Is "logging in" a use case that should go in the use case specification? Discuss!
 
Is Joel a twat? Discuss!
 
Lettuce Discuss
 
@TonyTheLion Did you mean lattice
 
2:09 PM
@TonyTheLion Iceberg what you did there
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you see bfilipek.com/2016/01/…?
@ScarletAmaranth define: hoenderhok
Damn. Wiktionary not smart enough
 
@TonyTheLion be sure to first Eliminate potentially inflammable topics
 
Ven
@davidhigh The point isn't to hide delete, it's to mark the fact that you have a pointer and you're just going to use it to observe the pointee, not sacrifice it at the holy altar of the free store once it is no longer of use to you. — TartanLlama yesterday
great comment
 
@Shoe Depends on what you're designing. End of discussion
(hint, if you're designing an authentication framework...)
 
@sehe I see
 
2:11 PM
@jaggedSpire It's all just a ruse. One day they'll be stealing their food and doing horrible things in the shadows...
 
@Shoe do you sehe?
 
@sehe So you say that if I'm not designing a thing centered exclusively around authentication, then authentication should not be a use case?
 
@AlexM. are you saying that Lettuce is a potentially inflammable topic?
 
I gotta wait until tomorrow to get my bike delivered :<
 
Like if the application is a SO.chat, even though pretty much all use cases require authentication, the user doesn't really have as a goal to authenticate
 
2:13 PM
@TonyTheLion I can't tell for sure, I'll be able to tell you Morwenn I've enough info on Lettuce
these puns are hard to make jesus christ
 
user1804599
@sehe PostgreSQL documentation does not list it as PostgreSQL-specific.
 
user1804599
I only care about PostgreSQL and SQLite.
 
is SOCKS5 backwards compatible with SOCKS4?
 
@TonyTheLion idk about that, but I do know you rock my SOCKS :)
 
oh bby <3 <3 <3
 
2:26 PM
@sehe It seems to work with an is_hierarchical_iterator trait used for tag dispatcg, similar to iterator category tags.
 
@TonyTheLion <3 <3
 
Have a wonderful Friday :)
 
@TonyTheLion You too :)
 
Ell
javascript is hard mayn :V
all these callbacks
I want defer & await
 
Ven
2:31 PM
@Ell use async and await, transpile|compile, depending on which word you prefer
 
Ell
@Ven Yeah transpiling is a good idea. Wouldn't you agree with transpiling @AngryLettuce ?
;)
maybe
but idk
does it work with any old callback accepting java library?
 
Ven
java librawhat
 
Ell
also I don't understand this in javascript still
 
@Ell shut up
TRANSPILE IS A BANNED WORD
 
Ell
2:37 PM
@AngryLettuce MAKE ME
 
Someone kick Ell for using the banned word
/bribes Tony
 
Ell
/bribed Tony even more
 
Maybe I should kick you both :P
 
Ven
@Ell it's easy: eval(a); is different from (0, eval)(a);
obviously.
 
Bah.
What time format is this: 2004-11-25T14:50:47+0100
 
2:43 PM
Robert ISO-991
 
Neither ISO8601 nor W3CDTF parser in Perl's DateFormat module likes it.
 
You should change your name to Robert
 
Robert McRobert
 
Angry Robert
 
The ISO8601 parser in Perl does not like it because of the time zone offset without :. It accepts it if the date and time do not have - or :.
 
Ven
2:44 PM
git blème
 
git sarace
 
git gud
 
git robert --extra-robert
 
@TonyTheLion Just kick the unfunniest one.
And since the French are unfunny by definition.
Then it's an easy job.
 
2:53 PM
it's "the least funny"
hth
how2gramer
 
Mange mon pain
 
hows the new flatmate Lettuce?
 
après ta soeur
flatmate is a normal person which is amazing
 
:D
error_success
 
@AngryLettuce Je n'ai pas de soeur.
DUN DUN DUUUUN
 
2:55 PM
ah mais ça, ça te regarde
 
@AngryLettuce congrats on successfully applying the slaphappy rule
 
what is that
 
> the slaphappy rule
wat
 
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Don't stick crazy in your appartment.
 
@AngryLettuce "no psychos"
 
2:55 PM
That.
 
you don't get to tell me where to stick my dick
 
Don't stick your dick in your apartment
 
same one :)
 
@slaphappy look that lady seemed a little maniacal but nothing psycho
I couldn't know she was completely insane
 
I didn't say it was easy
 
2:57 PM
your sister is
 
@AngryLettuce You should switch to "your mom", always works.
 
@EtiennedeMartel not in these dark times of gay marriage you homophobe
 
@AngryLettuce Okay, "your biological mom (which you might not know but still somehow exist somewhere even in a metaphysical sense)".
 
what if lettuce is a robot
 
@EtiennedeMartel what if they have 2
you can have at most biological 1 dad but 2 biological moms
 
2:59 PM
Mmm.
 
because nature is fucking sexist
 
"your legal guardian"?
 
those μaggressions must stop @EtiennedeMartel
 
Someone kick Etienne for being a backwards dickwad
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel and the most important rule, don't stick your appartment in your dick
that will only end in blood and tears
 
2:59 PM
I DEMAND A MADARATOR
 
All you'll get is a stern look, you sentient entity.
 
un regard de sterne
Sterna hirundo La Sterne pierregarin (Sterna hirundo), aussi connue sous les noms d'Estorlet, de Goélette ou d'Hirondelle de mer, est une espèce d'oiseaux de la famille des laridés. Selon le grand dictionnaire terminologique, l'« estorlet » ou la « Sterne pierregarin » hiverne sur les rives du golfe du Mexique et du sud de la Floride, jusqu'en Amérique centrale. Au début de chaque printemps, les colonies reviennent occuper leurs aires de nidification de l'hémisphère Nord. Dans le golfe du Saint-Laurent, les plus grosses concentrations de sternes pierregarin se trouvent dans l'archipel de Mingan...
 
Ven
bjarne sterne
 
@Morwenn needs image macro
 
3:04 PM
no
 
Angry Stern
 
3:17 PM
@TonyTheLion Believe it or not there's a plugin for having said command
 
3:28 PM
always funny when you get a canned message from a recruiter and that message is aimed at females
 
@EtiennedeMartel Following your brother's soundcloud favs now, are we
 
@sehe He actually suggested that song to me.
 
@AngryLettuce nature waxes poetic and fucks sexist
@EtiennedeMartel I could tell from what you posted earlier
@CatPlusPlus is it crazy
@AngryLettuce he's just better at hiding it.
Sufficiently advanced deception is indistinguishable from normalcy
@EtiennedeMartel T'as pas de coeur
@JohanLarsson TBF javascript productivity sans callbacks is much more likely to be close to zero. But nice joke on programmer ego
Someone else say something.
 
3:50 PM
to be frank?
I found a bug in my code.
 
:D
Was it a wise old one?
Did you greet it with a tip of the hat?
 
depends on what it means
 
> If you find buddha in the middle of your code, comment him out.
 
I wrote an issue, gonna squash it after writing a test for it now.
 
Oh god. Not the methodicals. They have no mercy
 
3:53 PM
are you streaming tonight?
 

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