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02:00
@VermillionAzure Yes.
@JerryCoffin That's not a bad name
J-names are the best.
North West is much more vulnerable
@Nooble <3
@Nooble like Jacobian determinant!
02:01
@jaggedSpire Jalice.
@VermillionAzure Sponge Bob's older brother: Julian, a sponge.
@Nooble jaggedSpire
also, no
@VermillionAzure My last name, silly.
silly is a pretty silly last name
02:02
Coffin is a pretty cool last name.
jerry is a secret vampire
Jesus I know a guy whose last name is Goo
Put Coffin in a coffin!
@VermillionAzure Jesus: also a member of the J team.
Nah nah nah J don't have everything
@Prismatic Secret?
02:04
irc
my bad, i didn't know you came out of the closet coffin
:p
You know what's a sexy name? Brad. Chad. Selena. Eli. Talon
Elliot.
> As ranger you'll either be running clerics/magi/zealots for heals
gw2.txt
02:05
@VermillionAzure Read Eli as Ell, was amused
@VermillionAzure Lol.
@VermillionAzure Sorry, but names don't have sex, they have gender.
@jaggedSpire Ancient trivia alert: in the days of Fidonet, I ran a system named "point pointedly pointless".
@JerryCoffin When names have sex, they merge together to form another name.
Jefffrey Cofffin.
02:07
You mean like EsSEX?
@JerryCoffin :D
pointless pointers
Ell
Ell
@jaggedSpire hey my name is sexy, as @Nooble correctly notes
Also Luc Danton is a pretty sexy name
@Ell The Chicago train system is sexy? Really?
02:08
@Ell :3
@VermillionAzure Probably enough info for me to find you btw.
Hi5, @LucDanton
inb4 @sehe SUPERSTAAAAAAAAALK
ITT VA is Loungesexual
@GregorMcGregor hmmm?
02:08
Vermillan Azooray.
@sehe wait didn't you go to bed?
@GregorMcGregor yeah, that would be superb
@jaggedSpire yes
...are you summoned on mention of your name?
hmm
@edition mumble
02:10
ok
but you kept saying irc?
K I'm done
the mumble server is idle too.
@VermillionAzure with?
!aaaa was I
02:16
@edition is it down? I just tried a restart - did that help?
@sehe I think he meant quiet
Good! Night!
@sehe :P Night!
@sehe Good Knight!
@sehe but thank you.
02:18
@sehe Knight from g3 to 5e
g's to you polar bear
02:31
@sehe I'm using C++ 9, not C++ 11, and your method only works for C++ 11.
C++9?
C++97 maybe? didn't the publishing years go 97->03->11->14?
@melak47 It's a C++Vista
@ElimGarak o.O
@melak47 loljk
@jaggedSpire 98 :P
Oh, wait, jagged is a gurl. Inappropriate semantics with bby.
02:35
@ElimGarak meh, bby away
@ElimGarak thanks for the correction. :)
Since Google released tensorflow the gpu and cuda tag get flooded with shitty questions about it
thanks gagle
You were meant to bring it, not ogle it.
> Is it possible to use Shader Storage Buffers with dynamic size for KDTree leafs
laff
IT'S SPELLED LEAVES YOU *****
pls no ;_;
02:38
@ElimGarak no! don't go!
we can change
I thought you guys were immutable :(
s/utabl/atur/
@ElimGarak sorry, it's all mutable members in this class
even when we say we're const, we only appear that way to outsiders. ;)
immaturable is not a word ... sorry for being so pedantic
> Which is take Less memory space in Runtime?
02:42
well? which is?
0
Q: Is YouTube earning halal?

Suhail IsmailIs earning money through YouTube halal? I play video games and upload that content on YouTube. So is YouTube earning halal in islam?

@Elyse
Yes, you should donate all the funds to the fight against terrorism.
@GregorMcGregor I actually wonder how many trolls the religion sites get?
I imagine any religion is bound to have a lot of haters.
idk but that SE is p entertaining
> Can you play video games in heaven?
02:55
@jaggedSpire idk
@nick doooo iiiit! Join us in our misery!
they're interviewing for a full stack dev
i thought it would be node and maybe java and perhaps even C#
@nick Which you are ;)
"sry i only do full heap"
Only full heap buddy
@Nooble Yeah I'm not a systems programmer though
02:57
@nick You're gonna love our preprocessor.
who the fuck writes their server in C
@nick Depends on the kind of server. Who writes in C?
@nick Kevin C.
@ElimGarak rekt
aha ahahghghahdDOMAGOJ
02:58
sup, bby
@nick such excite
Sounds like a Klingon laughing & choking on gagh
i was choking
@nick C++ is great. We have the best way of managing dependencies.
True
03:01
Come and join the happy world of C++™.
I've been virtually plonked on mumble
if for some reason they hire me im a king
> doesn't even C++
Well, more like a court jester, but progress :P
o pls
@nick C += 1 IMO is better.
03:02
company is worth 6.5 billion
I predict I will be CEO by the end of my first month
@Nooble no ++C
@edition :(
@nick operator++(C).
Courtesan Escort Officer
@ElimGarak Why don't I ever see you modeling a really hot woman? You know that you want to ;)
It takes a lot of effort and the current climate of game journalism is trying to cash in on the whole SJW thing. So no more hot women. Only strong, burly ones. :P
03:12
@nick oh, i'm a full-time c-hashtag programmer
Ell
Ell
man I need an ongoing linux diagram for the entire graphics stack
I often get lost
what you need is a full stack
@nick a full stack developer ;D
hire me pls
i charge very reasonable hourly rates
I don't get the whole no hot women in gaming thing. I mean I do think the damsel in distress themes are a bit retarded - wait for a guy to rescue you? yeah right. But let's be honest, both men and women love to watch hot women. So I don't get why they have to change to design for the likes of Lara Croft.
03:27
every character should be modeled after me
ez on the eyes u know
You guys ever find yourselves using static constants in your structs or classes as bit flags
I started doing it recently, not really sure if its commonplace
Feels kind of weird
what is a bit flag
I need to know all this terminology
ah ty based google
@Prismatic ?
struct UpdateData
{
    static u8 const NoUpdates       = 0;
    static u8 const UpdateWidget    = (1 << 0);
    static u8 const UpdateTransform = (1 << 1);
    static u8 const UpdateDrawables = (1 << 2);

    u8 update;
};
any particular reason not to use an enum?
03:29
update is a combination of the flags NoUpdates,UpdateWidget,UpdateTransform etc
No I guess an enum does the same thing
I've been so used to enum class though I didnt even think about normal enum
And enum class forces you to static_cast so its annoying for flags
@rch welcome back it only took you 2 years
@Prismatic you can always build stuff to get you the operators back
03:47
40 degrees here today
@chmod666telkitty here too
(fahrenheit)
@chmod666telkitty thats warm.
@chmod its only 19 degrees here.
is anybody here in NW US?
03:52
@edition I envy you
@chmod666telkitty ooh, there's marine weather warnings around NZ.
severe weather warnings as well.
how are you keeping hydrated, @chmod666telkitty :D?
@nick Microsoft, Valve... :P
04:10
I meant people >.<
user406009
Nah. Houston.
@chmod666telkitty that government's statistics departmant should look up some good color palletes
that's a mess
user406009
@orlp nah. It's quite obvious. "Don't live in the ugly looking areas or you will regret it."
you see this poop coloured area?
yea, that's poop, don't go there
@chmod666telkitty those brown areas are turned to shet mate, y'know.
cos where the sheets at, the temps real warm.
04:25
@orlp ill try to remember that
04:36
is everyone working?
@edition everyone's asleep
this is EU lounge
user406009
The only people left are us from the US, Cicada, and Telkitty.
user406009
(And some nocturnal EU people)
IOW, only quality people (except those from the US and Telkitty)
04:48
c'est moi
hehe
@GregorMcGregor bb pls
sorry nick
The day you'll have 10k+ rep I'll start considering you as a potential friend
I thought we had something special
user406009
Are we starting a rep war?
user406009
04:53
Did you know that the top .1% of users have like 60% of the rep?
user406009
REP INEQUALITY IS REAL
user406009
Fight the top .1%!
WHAT THE FUCK SHARE SOME REP WITH US
share the love
apparently one can earn reputation points by editing posts.
if you're poor
user406009
04:54
@edition it caps out unfortunately.
once you get full edit privileges you don't get rep for edits
i think that's at 2k rep not sure
gasp, how will one ever be able to fight against rep inequality injustice?
by joining the winning side
user406009
@edition we clearly need to elect a mod
user406009
Who will start a socialist revolution.
04:56
Bernie Sanders for Mod
we could have a not-so-secret voting ring
CUDA FUNCTION DOESNT WORK
HELP
I only help my friends
lol
I only help mai friends
uh, the other room got flooded with feeds :/
04:57
gedit????????????????????????
FEEDS
ahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
well considering we are blood brothers I guess I'll help you
user406009
@edition we could also do a voting ponzi scheme.
@Lalaland they might suspect something.
I am an expert on full heaps, stacks, uberthreading, quadruple pointer indirection, and much more
my talents are unlimited
04:59
@edition it's okay inside, also worse come to worse I will turn the air cond on
@chmod666telkitty oh you replied! Your still hydrated!
user406009
@edition don't worry. I am behind 5 proxies.
@edition no, I have not died in the past hour or so
@chmod666telkitty :')
05:17
my precious macbook won't charge
apple chargers are quite awful
I have broken at least 3 of them (1 for macbook 2 for phones), 1 charger itself, the other two were cables
why are macbooks so expensive?
I dunno, but I make apps, so I have to have a bit of everything
I've never owned any Apple products, because they were and continue to be too expensive.
user406009
@edition because Apple has such a loyal following that people are willing to buy them.
05:26
@Lalaland yes.
user406009
Prices have nothing to do this cost. It all comes down to what people will pay.
although its nice that Apple OSX is a true Unix variant.
or you could buy PC and install ubuntu instead
it could be a lot cheaper
@chmod666telkitty no, the dash menu on the left is silly.
@edition uh, what?
05:31
you could ... customize your ubuntu desktop?
sudo apt-get install i3
problem solved
well, besides, I actually find the Windows API useful.
lol you can't install a processor with apt-get are you trying to troll us
0/10
any of you guys used utfcpp.sourceforge.net ?
@orlp I thought unicode support was offered by boost, Qt and other mainstream libraries?
05:33
I'm not going to use Qt for non-GUI stuff
not using boost currently, but perhaps
@GregorMcGregor (´・ω・`)
you must be cicada
but ideally I'm looking for a small utf-8 library
> 703016
ah yep
@orlp there must be a GNU unicode library.
in my case I don't need unicode support (don't need to transform upper/lower case, equality, etc)
just decoding utf-8 into codepoints
lgpl and wayy too big
plus I don't want to convert encodings
I just want to decode utf-8 into codepoints
maybe look at existing unicode parsing implementations in a text editor or something, and adapt the code.
@orlp sorry that I cannot provide any further help,
actually speaking of unicode, is it bad that I mostly use the ascii character set in my programs?
@edition using the ASCII character set in your program internally is fine
but user input should be unicode
and should stay unicode
Great I just received the docs for the Korean key exchange protocol. In Korean. 대박.
Still 40 degrees ... I am sitting in an air conditioned room, eating chilled cherry & drinking plenty water
05:47
@chmod666telkitty eating cherry
how do you eat alcoholic drinks?
oh no
that's sherry
I think she's referring to the fruit
still don't know what cherry is though
ohhh
@orlp a relative of the plum
kersen
De kers is een populaire vrucht: ze is klein, bolvormig en bevat meestal een pit. Technisch is het een steenvrucht. De kriek is een variant, deze is een zure kers. Alle krieken zijn dus per definitie kersen, maar niet alle kersen zijn ook krieken. Ook is er een witte kers: de witbuik. Over de geschiedenis van de kers is vrijwel niets bekend. Ze zijn in het westen bekend geworden nadat ze door de Romein Lucius Licinius Lucullus meegebracht werden vanuit Kerasunta in de Pontus, noordoost Anatolie, rond het jaar 70 v.Chr. Kersen worden verdeeld in twee verschillende botanische soorten, namelijk de...
also cherry picking is awesome
05:53
I want to slap badly the retards at HN
@GregorMcGregor badly slap?
they are deeply retarded
and extremely obnoxious
why am I reading these comments
It's as if these people were literally drooling moronism on my face
I feel dirty
@GregorMcGregor isn't that the default state of a farmer
that's racist
@GregorMcGregor HN is a silly place for silly people
06:05
@orlp have you managed to find a way of extracting codepoints yet?
@edition utf8cpp does it
@orlp excellent
I was just asking whether it was a good quality library and someone used it before hrere
06:35
It's good
ugh
why oh why is char not (always) unsigned
When I start the Robot's Seal of Approval™ program, utf8cpp will be one of the first candidates.
what are other candidates?
Dunno
IIRC utf8cpp does everything right.
I can slice UTF8 as binary data just fine, right?
as long as the start of the slice is a codepoint, and so is the end
e.g. when lexing UTF-8 source code, I can just do stuff until I find a codepoint with ", then find the next codepoint with " (and handling `\` n shit), and then just take the binary slice in between those
Well, for keeping the result valid UTF-8.
But that might result in other woes, like lone combining marks.
If it's source code parsing, sounds fine.
in my programming language everything must be ASCII (for now), except string contents
Quotation marks with combining marks would be syntax errors anyway.
I still haven't found a good argument for allowing unicode in variable names & other constructs
unicode inside string literals makes perfect sense
but outside of 'em?
06:45
what is your programming language called
Depends on your interoperability needs.
Kwik
In C# you can put essentially anything in an identifier (using the right mechanisms) so as to allow you to call anything written in any other language.
IMO that's just opening a can of worms
Though that's still doable with ASCII-only source code.
@orlp the can is called interoperability.
No one uses it. No even mildly fancy shit like pi.
06:49
let's say I'm not interested in supporting foreign interfaces with unicode literals by directly allowing them to be called with original names
is there a reason to allow it other than that?
It's no problem in practice, and if you end up on the wrong end of stupid, your hands are not tied.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it very well could be a problem
But it isn't...
copy paste code from somewhere that has inserted some stupid unicode non-visible stuff?
I dunno why you want to reject years of empirical evidence
@orlp IIRC those are only parsed properly if escaped, therefore made visible.
06:52
k
all ASCII codepoints are the same in UTF-8, right?
so I can just write code_point == '*' in my lexer source
to check for ASCII *
cool
The important property is that those bytes are never anything else, but yeah.
06:54
hrm
my column indicator might be wrong if an unicode literal contains combinating code points or unprintable ones
shrug
How so?
For error reporting I would count those as extra columns.
well, my column counter while lexing just increases by one for every codepoint
and resets to 1 when \n is encountered
Sounds good to me. Most editors will count them as extra columns too, so it matches.
all right
Just be careful with clang-style ^^^^^^ indicators
06:57
I just have one ^
By "be careful", I mean it's hopeless so don't bother.
~/programming/kwik/ master* λ ./test.kw
./test.kw:5:12: syntax error: unexpected token ';'
    test; cool;;
               ^
Finished parse with 1 error(s).
IMO that's a decent error message
Doing it perfectly right requires control of the renderer.
basically I want my compiler to be entirely unicode unaware
the source code is ASCII-only
the lexer just passes unicode literals as binary blobs

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