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4:00 PM
@Nooble know what you're going to see?
 
@Mr.kbok Nope :D
 
@Mr.kbok A movie, duh
 
@Nooble everytime I do this I end up watching some shit movie, lol
read: french drama
 
Ven
hi there
 
4:07 PM
not sure what are shit movies in the US.
 
Ven
@Lalaland "they"? :)
 
@Mr.kbok I wanna watch a horror movie but they're all tooooo scared
 
lol, do they still make those
 
Designing your own Super Mario levels sounds like a ton of fun!
 
> Experimental use of Sphinx for GCC documentation
Sounds good.
 
4:14 PM
@Mr.kbok of course
 
OMG there's 3.3 million Super Mario Maker levels already? I could play this for the rest of my life :)
 
@fredoverflow Meh, wait for No Man's Sky to come out, it has 15 quintillion planets to visit :)
 
@Borgleader And you're going to get bored after the third one. :D
 
@Borgleader Procedural Content Generation, I presume?
 
user406009
@Borgleader 15 quintillion planets that all look the same.
 
user406009
4:20 PM
Procedurally Generated content is way overrated IMHO.
 
@Lalaland Аre you Katt
 
user406009
It's the little human touches that make game worlds like Skyrim or Fallout great.
 
@Lalaland It is the poster boy for quantity over quality.
You could make the best sci-fi game and... If done right, you could get away with two planets and a space station.
 
user406009
Stuff like:
 
user406009
 
user406009
4:24 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь nah, I am light years more idealistic than Cat.
 
user406009
For better or for worse.
 
I got bored with No man's sky just by reading about it and watching a few videos. But Mass Effect Andromeda, which is going to have less than 15 planets half-assed but human delivered planets... Yummy.
 
@Lalaland They actually dont :)
 
@Borgleader But they do play the same :P
 
@fredoverflow Of course, here check this
 
4:26 PM
I cannot differentiate the videos in my memory in that respect. When Mass Effect was first announced, everything was unique. There was Noveria, the corporate frozen planet, the magnificent Citadel, the Moon, colony planet Feros of a fallen civilization, Ilos (the last refuge) and so on. :D And meeting Vigil, ermagherd. Did I mention Garrus motherfucking Vakarian?
 
@ElimGarak I cant wait to Claim Borg Prime in the Locutar system :)
 
You will need a Borg Queen as well :P And then she'll cheat on you with Data.
 
I've just remembered landing on Telos IV in KOTOR II... That was my first space city open world.
 
TIL banished is just 1 guy
 
4:30 PM
It's simple. We kill the Data.
 
But he is... Unique.
 
I expected at least 4-5
that's really impressive
 
@ElimGarak was
 
4:32 PM
@ElimGarak The leaving earth cinematic makes me so fucking sad every time i watch it
 
Yeah, goddamn onions and that kid. :D
But you have to remember that the war is over
 
Also I read the mass effect books (1-2-3), highly recommend :)
not 4 cuz different author, shitty reviews
 
Me too, I usually read them between games when the wait got too hard. :D The game really helped me visualize the stuff in the books. The comics were also fun, filled in some of the blanks.
 
Yeah I wanna read the comics next
and then maybe play the games again
 
It's difficult for me to play the games again because of the inevitable ending. :( Completely rekt the replay value for me.
 
user406009
4:40 PM
Game derived novels tend to be bad IMHO.
 
user406009
I really want Valve to release more games.
 
user406009
They have put out a lot of my favorite titles.
 
Valve releases a lot of games. :P
 
user406009
OK, produce, not release.
 
@Lalaland Not these ones.
 
4:45 PM
@Lalaland I believe they decided to die as heroes in order to not live as villains. And Steam is basically their corpse walking around and terrorizing everyone.
The hype around Half-Life 3 makes the game impossible to deliver.
Huh, it's pretty easy to dump stuff from your editor app and trigger Photoshop (if available), pretty cool.
 
It will be out with FFXV and The Last Guardian (probably never).
 
Xeo
Whoo. 14:20 for a 1.6km (1 mile) walk.
 
Xeo
I should get a heart-rate monitor wristband thingy
 
@Nooble I've learned from Apple: I stole it first, so it's mine!
 
4:54 PM
@Morwenn TLG is supposed to come out next year. :P
 
@Borgleader It's amazing that they been working on it for so long.
 
@ams Added the "cool kids way" for both flavours today! — sehe 7 secs ago
@Borgleader that's always nice
 
user1804599
hi
 
@StackedCrooked not bad. I wonder how legit/portable it is. At least it's very accurate on my box
 
4:59 PM
> Should <= be generated from < and ==, or just from <? We reaffirmed that we use < and ==. It’s better for floating point (remember NaN) and (surprisingly) not slower.
Floating point numbers, always making simple things no so simple.
 
@sehe requires rdtsc counters (intel). iirc on some older models the "turbo boost" skews the results.
 
yay second gold badge
 
> "How to apply Perforce patch"
Yay.
How does it get so many views with so little votes
 
people from google who don't have accounts
also the only real answer is you can't. they're useless :p
 
5:14 PM
@Morwenn Guess what I'm having for lunch :)
 
@Borgleader Kittens?
Or burritos.
 
So cruel, though. I cannot imagine doing that to my kids.
 
@Morwenn we have a winner :)
 
But we do not hold Halloween here.
 
@wilx thats just mean =/
 
5:15 PM
@Borgleader Some of the kids say that.. :D
 
> I told my employees I spent all the money I owed them.
 
Hey guys! How can I substitute a variable into MessageBox::Show("Here %d"); ?
 
"George Lucas had no understanding of space travel or physics." Which also explains why the Falcon can make the Kessel Run in less than 3.702813098×10^14 km (aka twelve parsecs). — R. Martinho Fernandes Jan 31 '11 at 0:59
3
robot's everywhere
 
@arcanesorcerer auto var = []() {MessageBox::Show("Here %d");};
 
@Mr.kbok I have a scifi.se T-shirt.
I was one of the top contributors in the beta
Participation waned a bit after, though.
 
5:24 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь woah I have never done that o.o
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you tell them the story of how you were built?
 
@arcanesorcerer It's called a lambda. Google "lambda C++"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, didn't know.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь but how can I use it? Do i define it in a form class?
@набиячлэвэлиь It says auto is not allowed in private: section of my class
 
Finished my spice "rack"
 
5:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes :O Pics or it didnt happen
@R.MartinhoFernandes How do you get some without spilling half the contents on the floor? o.o
oh nvm, i zoomed it i think i get it
 
The container covers rotate and there's holes to pepper or pour them.
I stick them to the fridge with magnets.
Magic
I think I need labels, though.
 
@wilx I'm thankful this wasn't a thing when I was young
I wouldn't want to see myself back then in this occasion
 
@Jefffrey I think it is a minority thing still. :)
 
In general I'm very thankful recording and taking pictures wasn't as much as a thing as it is now
These parents putting this stuff on the internet is very bad
 
@Borgleader It looks super cool :o
 
5:38 PM
I mean it's hilarious and all, but it must be super terrible for them at school.
Especially when they'll get older.
 
@Morwenn It does, I just didnt get how it worked
 
@Borgleader Getting it to work is but a feature when it looks that cool.
 
@JerryCoffin hehe
 
user406009
Does anyone in here happen to know how integer overflow is defined in Haskell?
 
user406009
I was able to find a lot of posts that said "don't do it", but nothing on how it's defined.
 
5:46 PM
 
user406009
Hmm, I guess I will just have to post on SnackOverflow.
 
@Morwenn wtf
 
@Morwenn I'm not sure I get it
 
user406009
I think it's a joke about how prevalent porn is on the internet.
 
@Jefffrey It's not that hard: they search the internet to know what that can do with beef, eggs & paprika, find a fetish porn site with people covered in food & reproduce.
@Lalaland How easy it is to find any kind of porn while searching for unrelated things :p
 
5:50 PM
@Morwenn that's how it happens alright
 
user406009
@Morwenn It was supposedly enough of an issues on reddit that they have explicit warnings for explicit content.
 
@Lalaland hehe le funi jok xDDD
 
@Lalaland Unfortunately porn is not nearly as prevalent as one might think
 
user406009
Of course, stupid subreddit names like earthporn help with the mess.
 
Ever tried to pick a random word, add « porn » to it and look for images? You'd be surprised.
 
5:51 PM
It's more about cats, stupid facebook posts, selfies and tweets
 
lets try
"morwenn porn"
 
@Lalaland Reddit is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
@Morwenn meh, same old same old
 
I've always assumed that the "12 parsecs" line was a play by Han, trying to figure out how stupid Ben was so that he can decide whether to charge him extra. — gobernador Aug 10 '12 at 14:40
Makes sense
 
@arcanesorcerer Google "lambda C++" and see this
 
5:55 PM
So git is complaining about a reference to a tree that apparently doesn't exist.
Except it does because GitHub shows it :P
@набиячлэвэлиь Pls git clone https://github.com/skorezore/adventure.git --recursive
 
On your anything.
 
s/t/y/ but it turned out funny
@Nooble did
what now
 
@набиячлэвэлиь It worked?
 
5:57 PM
fuck.
 
Cloning always works
What are you tryinna do?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I mean it doesn't give you a fatal error?
 
@Nooble ninja pls
 
When trying to clone submodule yaml-cpp?
 
5:58 PM
@Nooble NO
AM I NOT CLEAR ENOUGH
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Something is wrong with my computer.
 
@Nooble did you get it angry?
 
@Nooble Install newer git
 
you're not a grampa stop using cmake
 
@Mr.kbok Or isn't he?
 
5:59 PM
@AlexM. Maybe ._.
 
@Jefffrey lol
 
cad
@Jeffrey Have you watched this? youtube.com/watch?v=KPgpRw9tiuM
 
I am so inefficient at cleaning my place
duh
 
6:01 PM
@Mr.kbok Nuke it
 
cool got my spectre ticket
now all I gotta do is sit here and wait for friday
 
Who's Cool?
/badjoke
 
no but really @Nooble be a nice panda and use python+ninja
no need for cmake
no one needs cmake
 
> panda
 
ever
@AlexM. I was waiting for someone to pick that up
@AlexM. what?
 
6:03 PM
yea SURE
 
@Mr.kbok Not if all my dependencies use CMake.
I am not a panda :c
 
tell those guys to fuck off use a more modern build system
 
@Nooble I get "The source directory P:/C++/Games/adventure/external/yaml-cpp does not contain a CMakeLists.txt file.", though
 
@набиячлэвэлиь You didn't do --recursive did you?
 
@Nooble maybe if you were, you'd be the ninja kind
 
6:05 PM
@Nooble I did
 
@cad Hilarious
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Well, check the directory, is it empty?
 
@Nooble But "external/yaml-cpp" is empty (contains only ".git")
 
Still...
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Yep.
Fuck.
GOD DAMN SUBMODULES
 
6:06 PM
submodules are terrible in general
 
@Nooble I KNOW WHY
 
I hate them
 
@набиячлэвэлиь WHY
 
You're pointing at branch = no-boost-rb, which doesn't exist
 
@набиячлэвэлиь It does exist.
rb
 
6:07 PM
Wait no, that's a different yaml-cpp
 
I don't understand how outlook for android works
 
it sends me notifications 10 mins late but the time the notifs display is right
 
6:08 PM
and I swear it once sent me a notification for a 11:45 meeting at 23:45+
 
fixin' it rn on a fork
I know why it doesn't work
Submitting a patch
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Why.
 
I'll explain in PR
 
you're such a contributionwhore :P
 
Kinda, yeah
But I also don't trust Nooble to get git right
 
6:12 PM
get git getit
 
nooble is older than you, show some respect!
 
^
By like 5 months.
Which is a lot.
 
yeah dude he's like your internet sempai
 
he could basically be your dad
 
@AlexM. if they were, like, rats
 
6:13 PM
I make fun of that all the time
commit 5d614aef167a9f89394a316141bada05bf6328aa
Author: Julian Torreno <Skorezore@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun Nov 8 20:50:23 2015 -0500

    Stop sucking at C++.
Impossibru
 
lel
 
I need nicer clothes
but meh I also need an apartment
the choices I must make
it's really meh because nice clothes are expensive so, say, a jacket could eat up 1/4 of my monthly apartment savings
ugh
 
Here, @Nooble. Merge it. Just... DO IT
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I contribooted too thumbsup
 
6:20 PM
@AlexM. topkek
:+1:
 
Is it the new cool thing to lowercase GitHub users?
I'll join in on the fun.
 
lowercase is always cooler
 
The comment section on this one is especially bad
 
> There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a virgin. Jesus Christ, fuck society.
the society sits in awe as jesus christ proceeds to do it
5
 
he he
 
6:28 PM
@Jefffrey se he
 
@Nooble sey hey
 
see he.
 
17°C :<
it used to be -3 a week ago WHYYY
 
A lil' bit to warm
"Too bad; you aren't getting one. This game's no where near finished. Not even by Ubisoft's standards."
Also, @Nooble y u std::endl
 
6:31 PM
where's elim, I need him here
in my life
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Because I like my shit flushed.
 
@ElimGarak how's FO4?
 
@Elim HELP ALEX
@Nooble It's tie()d to std::cin so it's flushed anyway
@Nooble Also, you suck at if-statements
 
lol @ "you such"
 
@набиячлэвэлиь If you're complaining about my amazing brackets...
{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
 
6:33 PM
@Nooble no
if (stream_get<char>(std::cin) == 'y') {
    std::cout << "wah";
    break;
} else if (stream_get<char>(std::cin) == 'n') {
    std::cout << "wah.";
    break;
}
 
I got half life 2 now that's on a discount
I never played hl2
 
Can you spot the problem with the code above?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь eww formatting
 
@набиячлэвэлиь wow side effect expressions in if statement
 
@Nooble Spot the problem, fuccboi
@milleniumbug Closer, but still not it
 
6:34 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь no
 
Let's walk through it
User enters 'n'
 
oh
LEL
 
This should be a switch-statement
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Tried that.
Check previous commits.
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug more like wow side effects
 
6:36 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь nope fuck switch statements
 
Or variable-assignment and checking that verbol
 
yes, this
 
user1804599
No, should be a switch statement.
 
user1804599
No, actually, it should be a map.
 
Actually, it should be a nuclear reactor
 
6:36 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Fuck that.
 
user1804599
static std::unordered_map<char, std::string> const answers{
    {'y', "wah"},
    {'n', "nah"},
};
auto answer = stream_get<char>(std::cin);
std::string response("");
try {
    response = answers.at(question);
} catch (std::out_of_range const&)
    ;
std::cout << response;
 
auto in = stream_get<char>(std::cin); do_whatever(in);
 
@Elyse obvious syntax error
 
@Elyse Oooh this seems nice.
 
And uhhh why std::string
 
6:38 PM
why not
 
Use std::string_view
 
other than std::experimental::string_view, but it's experimental
 
I'd probably just
if (userResponse("Start game?") matches "y/yes")
{
	return RunGame();
}
return 0;
thumbs up
 
user1804599
Actually, refactor at into a total function that returns boost::optional<T>.
 
user1804599
Fuck unchecked exceptions.
 
6:39 PM
laffo
 
@Elyse Lol wat.
 
user1804599
Unchecked exceptions are not checked by the type checker.
 
No exceptions
 
nobody cares
 
user1804599
6:40 PM
Therefore they are a lost opportunity for tools that force you to handle all cases, such as type checkers.
 
Java does check, and fuck it
 
@milleniumbug Because nobody except @Elyse is rightfold
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug Right, one tool gets it wrong, therefore it sucks.
 
Also, @Nooble, collaborator status plx
 
@набиячлэвэлиь ahahah
me too
 
6:40 PM
@Elyse Yes, you get it wrong, therefore you suck
@AlexM. It cums with privigles
 
user1804599
Do you like dynamic typing?
 
I do, to an extent
 
I don't mind it
 
@набиячлэвэлиь mmm pringles
 
user1804599
Ah, there's the actual problem, then.
 
6:41 PM
nope just yogurt for me :<
 
@AlexM. Such as push-permissions
 
user1804599
Unchecked exceptions use dynamic typing, hence you don't mind them.
 
I don't care
 
snipes @Elyse's head off
 
user1804599
You just said that.
 
6:42 PM
@AlexM. The game is making me do some side quests, I suppose. It says that I need to follow the road to freedom, which is probably questing along with one of the factions until all timelines converge. Also, the personal vertibird is shit, it can only go to places you've discovered (turning it into an annoyingly slow fast travel).
 
most of my errors aren't type errors
 
user1804599
I fixed multiple bugs today that could have been caught trivially by types and a type checker.
 
user1804599
Fuck Python.
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug What are they?
 
mostly wrong logic in if statements
misplaced <= and >= operators and like
 
user1804599
6:44 PM
Interesting.
 
user1804599
Most of the bugs I fix at work are things that are overlooked because the system is complex and wrong assumptions were made that a type checker would have caught.
 
user1804599
Such as not considering the possible absence of a property (coordinates) on an address object. PO boxes don't have coordinates, but street addresses do.
 
@Nooble do {} also go around one-statement blocks?
We need a .clang-format
 
user1804599
I spend most of my time fixing bullshit like that.
 
6:47 PM
I appreciate static typing because of the hints my IDE can provide
 
user1804599
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I like to do so.
 
@fredoverflow Same species right? That's neat.
 
@What editor did/do you use on OS X?
 
user1804599
6:54 PM
MacVim.
 
I started learning vim not because of productivity bonus, but because of portability - having the same environment on every system
 

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