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3:01 PM
@TonyTheLion The society would benefit if you decided to pass on such an opportunity sometimes :P
 
Ell
My god my new flatmate sounds like such a douche
 
@Griwes No, it wouldn't
@Ell Is it, though
 
> sometimes
not
> always
 
Aw yeah
2 achievements left for Hotline Miami
 
Ell
"Yeah this is a really smooth fresh sound"
 
3:03 PM
@Griwes Laem punz' opportunities shall always be passed
@Ell Sounds like a french person to me
 
lol fuck off
 
What is it with that french stereotypes again
 
@Rerito At least they're better than monotypes (inb4: what do you have against font companies?)
 
@JerryCoffin Error 404: Joke not found (I didn't get the inb4 part, maybe my english is not good enough)
 
Ell
@Mr.kbok lol
 
3:15 PM
@Rerito In sound equipment, "stereo" means two channels, and "mono" means one (and most people strongly prefer stereo). The other part: monotype.com
 
Ell
Okay I'm going to restore from snapshot, this is getting ridiculous
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah the first part, I got it in the first place :p
I was just being cheesy hehe
 
@Ell Restore your roomm8?
 
Ell
my funtoo system
 
What's borken now?
 
Ell
3:18 PM
my packages :V
everything is blocking everything
 
Great shot!
 
Ell
I called the last snapshot I made: before_deep_update_13_10_2015
this kinda explains it :P
 
user1804599
ugh, mktime takes (month, day, year)
 
is robot around
 
terribly americentric
 
user1804599
3:21 PM
function sales_days($year) {
  $isNotSunday = function($day) use($year) {
    return date('w', mktime(0, 0, 0, 12, $day, $year)) != 0;
  };
  return array_slice(array_filter([28, 29, 30, 31], $isNotSunday), -3);
}
 
@Rerito If you're going to destroy a joke by explaining it, you need to treat it like a zombie or vampire, and explain it all so it's entirely dead, buried and can be forgotten.
 
user1804599
so ugly :(
 
@JerryCoffin So basically, you shot me in the head. Twice. With two different guns! That's overkill
 
@Rerito I use only one shot from one gun (but it's an M777 Howitzer).
 
3:26 PM
@JerryCoffin "gun"
 
@JerryCoffin Must be troublesome to walk by carrying that
 
I find it extremely hard to believe that you've spent years researching different architectures, including reading books on each (as you have implied), yet you are still grasping for understanding. If this truly is the case, then absolutely no example, visual resource, or diagram we can link to will help you. Your question is unanswerable. Your quest, never to be completed. I'd suggest you take up gardening. — Will 18 mins ago
 
user406009
Meta is always entertaining.
 
Off I go!!! Weeeeee I love wednesdays
 
@Jefffrey Which one? The actual intro of the song or the few seconds of Major Lazer that come before it?
 
3:30 PM
 
@Morwenn intro of the song
 
1
Q: What is the purpose of dereferencing eax when it contains 0?

Tony The LionHow can the following instructions make any sense? xor eax,eax mov eax,[eax] When you XOR eax, you get zero most of the time, so can you dereference what is at address [eax] (in this case eax contains 0) and put it back into eax?

lol dat question
 
@Rerito Much lighter than the M198 anyway.
 
lol me
 
@Jefffrey Not bad indeed, but I was waiting for some krautrock or progressive metal song because of it :(
 
3:31 PM
@Morwenn Yeah, the rest is meh
 
The rest is an interesting take on reggae still, but not what I was waiting for ^^"
@Jefffrey Do you know Cydemind? I think you might like it.
 
> When you XOR eax, you get zero most of the time
 
I don't know it
 
obvious noob :)
 
(Which means that you might also not like it at all)
 
3:33 PM
The uncertainty is specific to newbies IME
 
@Jefffrey Well, here you go then if you don't mind.
 
Sounds too metal
 
Oh.
 
Yeah, I was listening to that one too
 
Stream Capture sounds nothing like metal though :p
It's just a calm, beautiful and uplifting instrumental piece :)
 
3:34 PM
Yeah, it's nice
 
I still don't know how I discovered this band though...
 
you know how you can remote desktop into a game with steam?
 
@Mr.kbok Might not be so often on a properly feminist computer that takes its own feelings into account, instead of being a mere tool of the patriarchy.
 
@JerryCoffin hahaahah :D
 
You know you've really gone overboard with metaprogramming when you start including PHP files :p — Quentin 30 secs ago
lol
 
3:42 PM
The new C++ preprocessor
 
also much better than the current one
 
Ell
eeh I'm too afraid to use my snapshot :V someone ssh into my machine and fix it please
how much do you charge cat
 
What'd you do
 
Ell
Lots of packages are blocking others and I have multiple packages in a single slot or something
I'm trying to do emerge --oneshot on various versions but nothing is helping :V
for example:
 
I'll have to run for now. I'm stranded cleaning up the unholy mess with lexeme/lit/operator&. Rest assured, the end result will be about 3x shorter. But I don't have the time now. Laters! — sehe 17 secs ago
@Rerito soz ^
 
wat
 
Ell
app-text/poppler:O

  (app-text/poppler-0.37.0:0/56::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    >=app-text/poppler-0.12.4[cairo] required by (media-gfx/gimp-2.8.14-r1:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
                              ^^^^^

  (app-text/poppler-0.32.0:0/51::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    >=app-text/poppler:0/51[cairo] required by (app-office/libreoffice-bin-4.4.5.2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
                            ^^^^^
^@CatPlusPlus this happened
So there should be a way to install one version to slot 0, and one to slot 1, right?
but then I'd have to reinstall libreoffice to use the second slot, or something
but then the wiki says just --oneshot the higher version
 
@sehe: np. Im sure ill be satisfied with your answer :)
(On the run as well so typing on mobile atm)
 
@Ell Uh no, slots are determined by ebuilds
 
Ell
oh right
 
3:53 PM
Post full logs
 
Ell
I'll post the output of sudo emerge --ask --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world
 
user1804599
4:08 PM
22
Q: What if I say "this statement is false" while under oath?

PyRulezLet's say I am in a court proceeding, and then make swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I tell the judge I would like to make an opening remark, he says yes, and I say "My opening remark is a false statement." What happens to me? If they claim that my statement i...

 
user1804599
lol
 
@Rerito me too right now. In advance though what do you intend to have as parsed result for the various string forms? The raw input sequence or the interpreted escapes?
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus paste.ee/p/2u2yO
 
Is there a link to the grammar spec @Rerito
 
Three people married together in Brazil. That's fun :)
 
4:12 PM
5
Q: how to build / compile ndk application?

RBJhi now i am download ndk but i dont know how to build and compile actually i am new for android application....now i am using linux...and i am not well in command line.... embdes@embdes-laptop:~$ cd /home/embdes/projects/android/android-sdk-linux_86 /platform-tools/ embdes@embdes-laptop:~/projec...

check girl1.jpeg
 
@Ell Of the conflicted package, not the one that pulls it
 
Girl.3gp
 
Ell
ah sorry okay
what command should I link the output of? Sorry I'm nub :(
 
I haven't used Portage in a long while
 
@NeelBasu lol 400 rep, 5 gold badges
"you ask very shitty questions but so does a lot of other people, so congratulations"
 
4:15 PM
@Mr.kbok 5*Famous Question‌​, too
 
Try oneshotting libxcb, icu and poppler
 
'I dedicated years of my life to Hello world': meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/308995/…
 
Also update more often
 
@MartinJames yeah xD
how to tell if your life sucks: 1) you dedicated years of your life to SOA tutorials
 
@Mr.kbok It makes me want to cry.... sob.....
 
Ell
4:18 PM
@CatPlusPlus any particular version?
 
cheetah-.3gp
funny.3gp
tshirt.3gp
Girl.3gp
dancing.3gp
b7.jpeg
girl1.3gp
tv.3gp
sports.3gp
sports1.3gp
sports3.3gp
sport2.3gp
tv.jpeg
tv1.jpeg
global.jpeg
orange.jpeg
images.jpeg
ddddd.jpeg
balloons-lift-car.3gp
3d-little-monster.3gp
smoking.3gp
the.3gp
These are the assets of OP
 
neel is like b&w rightfold
 
@NeelBasu Obviously OP isn't married, or he'd just have debts instead of assets.
 
with that kind of asset you can get married without much regret
 
You underestimate the damage of marriage
 
4:21 PM
I dare not possibly comment.
 
I find it extremely hard to believe that you've spent years researching different architectures, including reading books on each (as you have implied), yet you are still grasping for understanding. If this truly is the case, then absolutely no example, visual resource, or diagram we can link to will help you. Your question is unanswerable. Your quest, never to be completed. I'd suggest you take up gardening. — Will 1 hour ago
@MartinJames your wife knows your nick
 
if you know what sehe means
 
wink wink
 
@sehe repost :)
 
@sehe My wife sometimes visites gardening sites - send the epitome of boring somewhere else!
 
4:23 PM
@AnalPhabet moremememaiming
 
0
Q: is there any standard cpp build system

hg_gitIs there any build system that is either recommended or mentioned by c++ standard committee? I've tried cmake and found it good but not satisfactory build system. It generated a tons of files and code for my simple 2 source 1 header file project. Even if I did out of source builds, it filled bu...

lol
 
@sehe that's one to try and say after a few beers :)
 
@JonClements when chatting up a mesmerising mermaid
 
-1
Q: " Windows 8.1 OS is burn inside the motherboard ", what does it mean?

BennyI just bought a Dell laptop Inspiron 7548 that came with Windows 8.1. I deleted the Windows partitions and installed new partitions with Ubuntu 14.04. I forgot to take a copy of the Windows key, so I called to Dell support and asked them if there is a way to restore the Windows key. They told ...

 
Xeo
yay, 15-minute mile \o/
 
4:28 PM
@MartinJames wtf
 
so I changed an IDE-specific setting in CLion and it spit out #pragma clang diagnostic push #pragma ide diagnostic ignored "OCDFAInspection" into my source file, outstanding
bloody idiots
 
SexQL
 
I have a meeting in room uranus
this is not a joke
 
Xeo
4:37 PM
@AndyProwl yay
 
:(
 
@Mr.kbok Can't wait the moment you discover Uranus is actually a planet
Hilarity will ensue
 
@Jefffrey ?
 
I have x86 asm question stackoverflow.com/questions/33395795/… where should I ask it? Can't wrap my head around it.
 
clang finishes so fast!
 
4:41 PM
you mistyped yummy
 
@DanM. It seems you have already asked it......
 
I'm disappointed by programming languages
Is that even possible?
 
lol, x86: 'vpmovsxbd ymm0, qword ptr [rdx]'
 
@Jefffrey haskell!
 
user406009
@Jefffrey Yes.
 
user406009
4:42 PM
The problem is that everyone has different goals.
 
@Mr.kbok Already hit that
 
user406009
Programming languages have to be compromises.
 
@Jefffrey disappointing too?
 
user406009
For example: see the current std::variant snafu
 
If you search programming languages with Strong statically type systems, you are left with like 5-6 languages only 2 of which are "usable" for anything serious: Scala and Haskell
 
user406009
4:43 PM
No one got exactly what they wanted.
 
user406009
@Jefffrey You are ignoring F#, OCaml, etc, etc
 
user406009
And they are currently trying to rework Scala.
 
@Mr.kbok It has lost its charm
F# is a Windows thing AFAIK
 
Rust?
 
F# is essentially ocaml
 
4:44 PM
@Jefffrey Scala ftw!
 
OCaml is practically abandoned AFAIK
 
IronCamel
 
@sehe the grammar can be found in the rfc i linked in the question. A bit rough to read but it was the most thorough.
 
user406009
Rust is more about trying to be a better C++ than a better Scala.
 
@JohanLarsson Is that production ready?
 
4:45 PM
@MartinJames That's AVX SIMD. That's not supposed to be written by hand, so it makes no sense to make it sensible :P
 
each time I change the logger.hpp file, I have to rebuild the entire project which takes at least half an hour
 
As for escaped sequences i want to parse them and store only the raw result to allow common string comparisons between to values for a given key
 
@Rerito ok!
 
@Jefffrey dunno, depends on the definition perhaps
 
@Griwes I was concerned that the instruction mnemonic was too short :)
 
4:47 PM
So im betting ill need a custom semantic action on hex chars and hex strings but dont bother handling that :)
 
@DanM. You need to make your question a bit more complete--include full source code to a fragment that demonstrates the problem. I should be able to feed the fragment to ml64, and get exactly the errors you're asking about (and no others).
 
@Rerito Do have a look at the termcxx miniproject I did with @wilx. Many similar topics pass there
4
It has a link to the github too, so you can simply nick the hex handling there (and possibly more)
 
Damn mobile i cant star. Will do @sehe. Thanks! Off i go again :)
 
:D
 
@Rerito Proxy star.
 
4:50 PM
@JerryCoffin well it is complete. Only thing is missing is .CODE at the start and procname PROC / procname ENP wrappings
 
@MartinJames Go look at the Xeon Phi instruction set. :P
 
@DanM. "It is complete. Only [it's not complete]."
 
@JohanLarsson I guess
 
Seriously, you need to make it complete.
 
> VGATHERPF0HINTDPD
 
4:51 PM
@JerryCoffin well it's like asking for full .sln project when you only post the finc with error in it
 
@Griwes lol
 
> VGATHERPF0HINTDPD - Gather Prefetch Float64 Vector Hint With Signed Dword Indices
 
@Ell Newest one
Probably
 
@DanM. No, it's like asking for you to ask the question in a way that we know what problem you're really having, so there's some chance of actually answering it.
 
> VMOVNRNGOAPS - Non-globally Ordered Store Aligned Float32 Vector With No-Read Hint
lol
 
4:53 PM
IRTA VGA Theater Pointer Find ThePhD
6
 
@JerryCoffin anyway, I updated the question: stackoverflow.com/questions/33395795/…
 
shit
 
It's silly to use unreadable mnemonics for new instructions these days
Assemblers can now deal with vowels just fine
 
@Griwes Of course. I understood that immediately :)
 
They can be unreadable since no-one sensible writes them (and if you are debugging this shit then RIP anyway.)
 
4:56 PM
It's never about writing
 
hence
> and if you are debugging this shit then RIP anyway
 
V good rationale
10/10
 
...
People always underestimate that. It's a total waste of time if we need to spend 10 minutes getting a testbed for a question that merits 1 minute to answer.
 
Ell
I can't do to newest version because something requires < some version. I've done closest I can get though :V
I think things would be easier if versioning was built into objects
And you had to link with a library+version spec instead of some file
 
What on fucks earth is with this guy
 
5:06 PM
@Griwes chucknorris - Does what you want. No questions asked.
@Griwes I should probably be a bit concerned that I can read most of those instructions without looking them up.
@MartinJames There are some instructions that I don't understand even with a description and pseudo-code:
> vpmultishiftqb - For each 64-bit element in b, select 8 unaligned bytes using a byte-granular shift control within the corresponding 64-bit element of a, and store the 8 assembled bytes to the corresponding 64-bit element of dst using writemask k (elements are copied from src when the corresponding mask bit is not set).
 
I think I found my problem: felixcloutier.com/x86/PMOVSX.html was misleading. It said that you can use m64 as well as xmm as second operand but it's not true most likely
 
Then use Intel manuals instead of some crappy wubsites?
 
can't find them
 
It's v hard to find, you have to look at first result for "intel cpu manual"
 
@CatPlusPlus He probably doesn't want to look at manuals that are bigger than a phonebook.
 
5:14 PM
PDFs with bookmarks, doesn't matter
 
@Ell Awww... total Eclipse of the heart!
 
@Mysticial That's RISC for you :)
 
@CatPlusPlus I looked, they are pointless.
 
Yes they only describe the entire instruction set, quite pointless when looking for information about the instruction set
 
laffo
 
5:21 PM
@CatPlusPlus The ones I found - don't
 
Ell
Ugh WebKit failed to build on emake step
I'll see if anything else is fixed
 
LETS HAVE A LOOK
Should I make circles
 
what's the reasoning behind needing mutable on lambda (aka. simply no const in the corresponding function object) to modify parameters I capture by COPY?
 
I'll make circles
 
[sigh]
 
5:23 PM
CIRCLES
 
@ScarletAmaranth because C++
it would be too consistent otherwise
 
@CatPlusPlus for me it was locilized page with lots of garbage
 
nono I bet there is something behind it; I understand the implicit constness, just not sure about needing const on things I pass by copy into the constructor of the function object it generates
 
@ScarletAmaranth SC members are easily spooked, even by closures. So the more sensible choice of opt-in mutability trumped consistency.
 
I am speechless
 
5:30 PM
In fact you can mutate anything you capture by-ref (as long as it’s mutable to begin with of course), mutable is precisely about the things you copy/move.
 
@MartinJames I swear, I've spent more than an hour of my life trying to figure what that instruction does and what it's intended purpose is... And I'm at a loss. For all I know, I can only describe it as WTF.
 
@Mysticial lol
 
It's probably specialized for something that I've never even heard of.
 
coolio map
 
@Mysticial Well it's probably used in the implementation of gzgetss
 
5:36 PM
@milleniumbug Interesting...
 
@Mysticial Next time, right before you go on vacation, while reviewing someone else's code - "for performance, use vpmultishiftqb here."
 
I'm confused.
 
Not "used" yet since the no processor has the instruction yet. But it's slated for Cannonlake.
 
VPMOVSXBD ymm1, xmm2/m64
It should mean that second operand is either xmm2 or m64.
but it seems to be used as "lower 64 bits of xmm2"
 
@Jeremy We should just call it vpwtfq.
vpwtfq zmm17{k1} zmm27, ZMMWORD PTR [rdx+r11*8+1024]{1to8}
 
5:42 PM
@DanM. ...and it's now been answered.
 
@Mysticial Maybe it's an instruction that wasn't designed, but discovered? The 6502 had lots of "illegal" instructions with funny semantics...
 
Xeo
Om nom nom. Schnitzel, feta cheese, ham, fried egg and sauce hollandaise.
 
Feet cheese
 
about 4 bytes: I stated in the answer that I use avx2. It has this instruction for 8 bytes: VEX.256.66.0F38.WIG 21 /r
VPMOVSXBD ymm1, xmm2/m64
RM V/V AVX2 Sign extend 8 packed 8-bit integers in the low
8 bytes of xmm2/m
 
Ell
@xeo gimme gimme
Did you make the Hollandaise yourself?
 
Xeo
5:46 PM
nah
too annoying
not as good as it could be, but good enough
 
Ell
I haven't made it successfully yet
I always end up cooking it :V
 
Xeo
whenever I try it, it clumps
so I gave up on that idea for now
 
Ell
Me too
 
Xeo
yes
wait
 
5:48 PM
So the .NET GC relies on UB?
 
Xeo
function is static too?
hm
 
Oh, indeed it is.
 
Xeo
> static int get_data();
may not be UB, but dubious anyways
 
it’s all of the UB in the world :v a->b is (*a).b with all that entails
 
5:51 PM
@DanM. Yes--it looks like MS decided to just keep the AVX mnemonics, but add support for the instructions to let them work with AVX2 registers. If it were generating AVX instructions (instead of AVX2), it wouldn't be able to target ymm0 (it'd have to be xmm0).
 
@Xeo Unlumpy Hollandaise is a mystery, like working UB.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton dunno if that's what it actually does for static functions
(as in, what the standard says it does)
 
lol, when I search for "dlang" on YouTube, it responds with "Did you mean: golang?"
^ Can anyone confirm?
 
@Xeo it does that first of all
 
@fredoverflow can't reproduce
 
5:53 PM
 
@fredoverflow I'm seriously considering asking an SO question about vpmultishiftqb. The only thing on the internet that has the word "multishift" in any remotely relevant context is Multishift CG - which I have no idea what the fuck it is.
 
@milleniumbug I can reproduce, but it does not work in private mode, so I guess it takes my previous searches into account or something.
 
@JerryCoffin @JerryCoffin so how do I use avx2 instructions then?
 
@DanM. @DanM.
 
@fredoverflow yeah that seems to be the case
 
5:55 PM
I guess no cheap Internet fame for me :(
 
@DanM. I'm pretty sure it is using an AVX2 instruction. That's the point of what I wrote above. MASM is figuring out that it has to use the AVX2 instruction, based simply on the fact that you've targeted ymm0 instead of xmmX (so it has to be AVX2, because AVX could only target an xmm register).
 
@Jefffrey yeah, sry. but then why can't I have m64 memory operand?
 
No idea what you are talking about
 
@Jefffrey sry, was adressed to @JerryCoffin
 
Fucking while the IDE starts up? https://t.co/xHIZA8Bhd9
 
5:59 PM
@DanM. Because for that, (as the answer already said) they want you to use vpmovsxbw.
 
C++olumbo :/
Bad
 
I bought some cool metal coins for my board games. They came in individual bags.
Ffs
 
good job
 
Oct 19 at 22:03, by fredoverflow
user image
 
@fredoverflow That comic is what my joke was derived from
 
6:00 PM
We've come full circle!
 
@JerryCoffin @JerryCoffin but then I would have 16-bit integers, wouldn't I?
 
@JerryCoffin Why are the names of SSE instructions even worse than the names of C standard library functions?
 
@Mysticial I didn't look very closely, but at least at first glance, I'd guess it's for scaling the coefficients in something like JPEG or MPEG. You have 8 pixels, and you drop some least significant bits from each. At least at first glance, it looks like this might let you grab all of them, and expand each out to a full byte, simultaneously.
@fredoverflow It started with MMX. They tried to get "systematic" about it, but the actual operation (mov, in this case) got buried in the middle.
 
@JerryCoffin I just wanted to load 8 int8 as 8 int32 into ymm0 with single instr.
 
6:20 PM
@JerryCoffin I think I'll post an SO question tonight and see what I get.
It'll be interesting.
hopefully I won't get flamed
 
> -1; You have more rep than is good for you
^ My comment, later
 
@Mysticial Yes.
 
@DanM. Hmm....okay. Doing a bit of investigation, I'm not quite sure why, but MASM doesn't seem to want to do that. The closest I've been able to get is a vmovdqu to get the raw data from memory into xmm0, then a vpmovsxbd to sign extend the pieces into ymm0. At least according to Intel, the instruction does exist, but MASM doesn't seem to want to accept it.
 
@JerryCoffin it's sad =( Isn't there a (simple) way to "hardcode" instruction code instead of using mnemonics? Any sort of workaround?
 
6:34 PM
@Mysticial I'm guessing it'll get closed on the theory that it's either too broad, opinion based, or not about programming (as that's defined in the Help Center).
 
@JerryCoffin That seems very likely.
But I guess it'll depend on who sees it.
 
@DanM. You probably could hard code it, yes. Basically just a series of db that you emit into the code stream. I have done that, but so long ago I have no real recollection of any details.
 
If I leave off the major tags, it might have a better chance to live.
 
Anyone here recommends a URL shortener?
 
I use my own.
 
6:37 PM
If I were going to do it, I'd probably at least hack it into a macro to let the user specify the source and destination (but then it'd have to figure out the encoding, so you'd be building a healthy chunk of an assembler into the macro).
@Mysticial Somewhat better, yes.
 
@Mysticial That's only three, which is clearly inadequate. I'll edit in and to fix it for you.
 
That'll get the attention of guys like Paul R, Stephen Canon, and Z Boson.
@JerryCoffin You suck.
 
@Mysticial Thanks--it's nice to know my efforts are appreciated.
 
6:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Hmm....if it weren't already too long, guillotine.com would be the perfect name for a shortener.
 
frenchrevolution.com
 
frnchrvltn.com for a short name.
 
@JerryCoffin thanks for help. I hope MS fixes it, though it probably wouldn't matter to me by then. Couldn't find any good place to report it so I just sent them a few frowns =)
 
via ProgSnob /cc @sehe
 

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