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6:03 AM
this is fucking hilarious
@Rapptz I have one annoyance with ninja
 
?
 
@Rapptz 'make' can be typed very fast - alternating fingers of hands
ninja is 4 letters with the right hand in a row :P
 
@orlp what is? That picture doesn't show anything special as far as I can tell
 
like stewardesses
@sehe I think it's pretty cool it can generate dependency graphs
maybe that's just me
obviously it isn't technically impressive, just cool
 
ninja -t clean is pretty neato
 
6:08 AM
that too
@Rapptz I propose an alias for ninja
"We fear a few dwarf watercraft stewardesses were regarded as desegregated after a great Texas tweezer war."
you have to type that sentence every time you want to invoke it
 
still learning asyncio
python3.5 added some keywords for it lol
they added yield from in python3.3 and then made await an alias for it..
I mean I can kinda see why async was added considering how verbose @asyncio.coroutine is
 
> Looking for professional English teacher who is interested in FREE housing in exchange for 5-8 hours of English lesson per week.
Shit, if only it could be French
 
@Rapptz wait, await is literally an alias from yield from?
I don't see why that'd make sense
 
I see no difference from yield from and await at first glance.
I wouldn't say it's an "alias" per say.
But in this context (i.e. coroutines) it sure seems like it.
 
I can't see why it'd be wrong either, I just don't associate yield'ing from generators with async
 
6:13 AM
> There are two basic ways to start it running: call await coroutine or yield from coroutine from another coroutine (assuming the other coroutine is already running!), or schedule its execution using the ensure_future() function or the BaseEventLoop.create_task() method.
 
@Rapptz they're not synonyms
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0492/#await-expression
await does some type checking
 
yeah I already looked it up
await also adds some special methods
I'll stick with yield from
async def is neat though
tfw no backport
 
 
They made coroutines native in 3.5
heh you know
as slow as C++ is, I guess it isn't that far behind to other languages I use
man
python not giving a crap about backwards compat
 
because who cares
 
6:23 AM
they just added the async keyword and replaced asyncio.async() with .ensure_future()
C++ pls
I want muh sugar
RIP
 
@Rapptz doesn't C++ get co_*?
 
co_* is ugly
they should drop the shitty co_ prefix
 
@Rapptz but muh backwards compatabilituh
 
all these languages did it :(
 
@Rapptz coro_* being vastly superior
 
6:35 AM
Anybody got a link to that hilarious conformance C++14 roadmap troll for MSVC?
 
@GregorMcGregor way too terse
 
@orlp corout_
 
cplusplus_coroutine_technical_report_*
then everyone knows what await is, so we should shorten that
cplusplus_coroutine_technical_report_awt
 
6:53 AM
> Economy room at Central available. Economy does not mean small or bad it just means economy.
hahahahaha
10/10
 
Man, my transcript foo sux.
 
wow
this aiohttp library has asyncio http and websockets
imba
 
7:09 AM
Morning lounge
 
hi
 
Maybe Biebs should invest in a belt.
 
Justin Bibé
 
Xeo
7:14 AM
Just Imbibe?
 
@ElimGarak These pants... Damn I mean he looks like he took a dump inside of them
 
@Xeo French pun for "just soaked"
 
Xeo
wazzat
 
@Xeo Glyphosate? One of the most common and most effective herbicides.
 
Xeo
7:28 AM
no, I mean the talk or whereever you're getting that slide from
 
Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbärbel
 
7:40 AM
@Xeo Friend linked me to it; just the picture.
 
Xeo
ah, okay
... one ticket left for MeetingC++
bosses still haven't decided about it :|
 
7:57 AM
I think they're making the decision in the most passive way possible then
@Rerito This apparently is recurring fashion.
When I was young we used to call these pants "drollenvangers" (~1982-1986 I wager). Literally that's "turd-catchers"
 
@sehe My granddad says "pantalons tout-à-l'égout"
 
Total sewer trousers? Or "down the drain pants"?
 
Almost, in french tout-à-l'égout means you're connected to the sewers
 
Ah
 
(It's the drainage system actually)
These pants were quite a thing in my highshool days
 
8:04 AM
At my high school if you wore those you were a drug user
 
@GregorMcGregor At mine you could be at both ends of the drug trade IYKWIM
 
I include those in drug user
 
There were also the combo: jogger pants underneath the socks (yeah), and the "shark TN" sneakers
 
Xeo
8:21 AM
@sehe They actually just constantly forgot about it :/ They just gave the OK.
 
... wow
 
Xeo
PSA: I'll be at Meeting C++ in December
4
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson No, you?
 
user1804599
The only programming language offering dependent types that I know is Scala.
 
user1804599
And it's very limited in Scala.
 
8:35 AM
learn Idris, success guaranteed ™
 
@Xeo Will they talk about modules and... ...and... all the new stuff from C++17?
 
Xeo
not as a speaker :p
@GregorMcGregor You can check the schedule on meetingcpp.com
 
Xeo
Oh yeah
forgot about it
 
user1804599
@ScarletAmaranth What is the difference between Agda and Idris and why should I learn one or the other?
 
Xeo
8:40 AM
Hm. I hope I didn't just screw this up with the last ticket.
I was holding the ticket hostage until our secretary could book it
now I don't see the remaining time until that reservation expires.
 
@GregorMcGregor he's too excited obviously
no one sane would forget that otherwise
I hope
 
@Elyse these have been built for different purposes; Agda was to be a theorem prover (that ended up adding some convenient features), Idris is "marketed" as a "practical" language with dependent types (not that it's super practical anyway) - but you have list comprehensions, monad comprehensions, do notation, what have you
 
Xeo
okay, phew. Our secretary got it now.
Time to book the train tickets
 
> A: Can't wait for all cars to be computerized driving.
B: I'm just going to sit in the back seat and jerk off on my ride to work
 
Buzzzz! There is no backseat in your car
 
8:53 AM
go home car, I'm drunk?
 
user1804599
@ScarletAmaranth yay
 
@ScarletAmaranth redundant qualifier "drunk"
 
9:06 AM
if I have something as a using S = boost::variant<T, U>, and S foo() { return T{}; }, is there any way to return that T from foo() other than static_cast<S>(o : T)?
 
@Elyse No, I heard about Idris for the first time yesterday.
 
Idris is really fun
still suffers from shit like "prove succ k EQ k + 1" otherwise I won't compile bitch
 
user1804599
Are there infinitely many prime numbers?
 
Yes
Trivial proof
 
user1804599
9:21 AM
yay
 
ehhh, I use map id kind of thing to implicitly type cast - what's less ugly :-\
 
no more tickets to meeting c++
 
9:40 AM
fuck I broke the build
I came to work and everyone's crazy
 
how do you break it without yourself noticing first?
 
Fire him! Fire him! Fire him! Fire him! Fire him! Fire him!
 
@ScarletAmaranth I did it 5 minutes before leaving yesterday
IOW I suck
 
so you commit / push something you haven't even built o_O?
 
Xeo
@meetingcpp @tweetsbi Yoink!
 
9:45 AM
@ScarletAmaranth yeah :/
but it was an unrelated file added
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes your point?
 
I forgot our test suite picks up everything from that folder
 
@thecoshman No point. Just funny.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see
 
I obviously don't subscribe to that nonsense view.
 
9:46 AM
vOv
 
@Xeo I know :(
 
Xeo
You didn't get one? :<
 
@BartekBanachewicz Can't you push to a non-CI branch?
Or a [ci skip]-like mechanism?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh god, that's so going to get abused by badlets
 
we're getting a ci vm
 
9:50 AM
@BartekBanachewicz on the plus side, people care about such things
 
@thecoshman Dunno, I assume he rushed a push at the end of the day for backup purposes.
 
Why would you push for backup purposes
 
Here we push to some temporary branch and then rebase or amend the hell out of it.
 
@GregorMcGregor to get a copy of your changes not stored on your machine
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes we still haven't moved from SVN
 
9:51 AM
to?
Wait what
 
@BartekBanachewicz how does that matter?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Phew.
For a moment I thought you were about to say you use VSS.
 
svn can have branches... oh I guess it's a pita to decide last minute to have your changes on another branch.
 
@thecoshman Isn't the pita in svn the merging of branches?
 
3
A: Any way to Implement Excel LINEST function using boost libraries?

Daniel StrulI parsed the Boost documentation (not in boost::math, it looks more like boost::ublas). For now, I couldn't find an example simple enough not to be overkill for a non-mathematician. From what I saw, I would rather advise using Armadillo, as its use seems fairly straightforward. I have reproduc...

Cool answer on the worst question in a while
 
9:58 AM
@fredoverflow Don't you have to start on the branch you want to commit the changes too?
you can't just make some changes, then (like with git) swap branches and commit there
I could be wrong, I've not used svn properly for a long time
 
> Almost 2 decades ago, Matt Austern discussed a performance issue with STL algorithms when applied to hierarchically structured data (such as a deque) and sketched a solution using hierarchy-aware algorithms and "segmented iterators"
Interesting, I didn't know the idea was that old. They're called "spliterators" in Java 8.
 
I'm just working on getting away from it :P
 
@thecoshman Branches in svn are just folders, so it's also easy.
 
@thecoshman I don't think I've ever used svn branches.
 
Wow, wouldn't have thought that the rabbit hole goes that deep. Thanks for the detailed explanation! — ComicSansMS 14 hours ago
indeed
> When I hear somebody compare their project to a Ferrari, I think, "So your target audience is wealthy jerks? Your project is dangerously fast, over-engineered, absurdly expensive, and is always in the repair shop?" RChen
 
10:07 AM
@thecoshman we don't use branches :/
 
How is that relevant?
 
git-svn is sweet. Have all the branches in all the repos you wish (except the central one)
 
> Back in the crazy dot-com boom days
oh that's how you get rich in tech
in the past
 
@BartekBanachewicz o_0 I don't understand
@sehe at least they have the pride to not compare themselves to a Larda
 
10:12 AM
Because they don't exist?
 
is it just spelt Lada?
 
@sehe A few months ago I would have said a good analogy for code would be a volkswagen: cheap, fast, robust. Seems like the metaphor is not a compliment now :p
 
:) Most software is a lot like VW in that respect
 
yeah :D
 
But all the JUnit tests pass, so the software must be good, right?
 
10:15 AM
@fredoverflow ¬_¬ "JUnit tests"
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
it's a great HTTP server library
 
user1804599
and stable and being maintained
 
your lib?
 
user1804599
no
 
10:22 AM
@JohanLarsson "stable and being maintained" should have been a clue ;)
 
Now we're talking. Online MSVC with recent Boost
 
@sehe it doesn't support linking (e.g. libboost_system) though?
 
Not checked :)
 
@Elyse That library is used by pretty much all other frameworks
 
10:27 AM
@sehe oh it does work: rextester.com/TGKY45186 ; "[ + ] Compiler args " reveals the command line
 
@sehe nice
 
@m.s. pretty cool. Was it slow?
 
@sehe hm not really (for a web service): "Compilation time: 4.73 sec, absolute running time: 0.22 sec"
 
6
Q: Is there a way to write a SFINAE test of "for-eachability" of a type?

FuleSnabelI have used SFINAE expressions to test for if a type supports operator<< namespace details { template<typename T> struct sfinae_true : std::true_type { }; template<typename T> sfinae_true<decltype (std::declval<std::ostream &> () << std::declval<T const &> ())> test_for_ostream (int...

lol @ for-eachability
 
That's... creepy
 
10:32 AM
amazing OP explainability
 
@fredoverflow should be library provided
 
@Jefffrey "Use post for everything"
 
What?
 
it's free an open source, you said nothing about good :D
 
Now I am curious to see what's on the other tab ...
 
10:38 AM
@m.s. good news for all mankind
 
@CatPlusPlus It actually advocates using views in public schemas
 
@Jefffrey lol imagine a "come play my lord" haskell ad
 
@chmod711telkitty what about it?
 
10:45 AM
'why Bali is the perfect short break', then you see two fat chicks ... lead by example :x
 
lol
they hide new users' avatars because of the nazi incident??
@chmod711telkitty maybe it's a good break for fatties
what I don't understand is why it's a short break it's
 
@Mr.kbok which incident?
 
oh right australia
 
@Mr.kbok Because offensive content, blahblahblah
 
10:49 AM
uh
 
lolnice
 
You are nameless. Faceless. Formless. Go back to the Void from whence you came!
 
Xeo
1 message moved to bin
 
I was editing it!
Oo ...
sweet, I was editing it while it got moved, I got 2 instances of the same message, the old one got moved, the edited one became a new message here
how wonderful
 
is that from teh hobbit movie
 
10:52 AM
yeah
poor new users ... not even allowed to show their faces
 
user1804599
dat swastika
 
user1804599
 
whoever did that obvious wasn't a regular lounger
 
no they were a spammer and got banned pretty hard IIRC
 
Oo gosh, there was avatar of me in every screenshot of the lounge, how embarrassing ... trust me, I do have a life!
 
11:02 AM
@Mr.kbok hey that's me surrounded by nazilogos
 
We out here cachin' PSOs like it's 1991, you feel me?
 
So I had chat open an heard footsteps and thought I'd switch tab for fewer swastikas. The other tab had Andy's Hitler vid frozen at a closeup.
 
would be awkward if your coworkers found out and invited you to their nazi fanclubs eh
 
@AlexM. Goebbels is my favourite.
 
Would have been a little funny if someone saw me hide nazi twice.
NSFW is recursive that way
 
11:14 AM
@JohanLarsson it's ok as long as they did nazi the actual contents
 
what does it mean?
 
my puns are not intuitive enough :<
 
I write poorly and my parsing is even worse.
 
replace "nazi" with "not see"
 
11:18 AM
@AlexM. dw you’d fit in on reddit perfectly
 
ITT, you never know when you are taken in someone else's screenshot
 
11:36 AM
@ScarletAmaranth done with chapter 4 atm
 
how often does a new one come out? every month or so?
 
@ScarletAmaranth dunno, 3&4 were the first chapters added after earl release yet
 
Guys
Do you remember eMule?
 
@LucDanton fair enough, thanks; I'll buy the thing
gotta run, later bois
 
Next update will have chapter 5 so I’m guessing the schedule is not uniform then
 
11:43 AM
@Jefffrey yes yes yes
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey gibberish
 
It was the shit back then
 
user1804599
crazitalian
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey are you handsome?
 
11:51 AM
Perfect attire for work.
 
user1804599
No, misses "uck".
 
@Elyse no
 
user1804599
Are you fat?
 
yes
 
user1804599
:')
 
11:55 AM
ello
 
user1804599
lol
 
@ElimGarak it should be printed on the hood so that colleagues can see it when you are sitting in an office chair
that'd be sweet
 
user1804599
@FilipRoséen-refp facebook
 
@Elyse I've been thinking about ello, I wonder how many users (like me) only signed up to snatch a good username - and now never use the service
 
12:01 PM
@ElimGarak I wonder if there IS a manual for that hoodie (or if it just has odd washing directions)
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
> The first edition of the Haskell Report was published on April 1, 1990.
 
user1804599
lol, Haskell is a joke
 
@Elyse dank issue
 
user1804599
:D
 
12:15 PM
@Xeo Yay, mini-unconference!
 
I still haven't met any of you guys/gals
 
@orlp hey, I'm Ben.
 
Do you guys mind if I ask a question?
 
@theoemms The answer is pepperoni.
 
Ah! Thank you
 
12:22 PM
43
 
I'm about to write a differential solver
But, I want it to be as general purpose as possible
I'm basically wondering how much difference in speed there is between float and double
 
@theoemms depends on the purpose
 
@theoemms have you tried pepperoni?
 
and what you're doing with it
you can have very significant differences in speed mostly through memory bandwidth
 
pepperoni x = 0;
 
12:24 PM
@AlexM. double pepperoni
 
does not compile
 
e.g. when you're uploading data to your GPU, you usually want to use floats
 
Okay
 
however, simple computations (like double * double or double + double) are just as fast as float
 
@theoemms wrong!
 
12:25 PM
complex functions, like sin and exp become more expensive for double again
 
int pepperoni = 0;
 
I can't quantify how much though
 
Okay, cool thanks. I suspect that it takes roughly twice as long because you'd have to evaluate twice as many term in the expansion
for exp, sin, cos
 
Does it matter? typedef or #define it and try both when you get it working.
 
But, I'm workin on multiple projects so I'm considering going completely overkill and templating away the numerical type
Basically, most of the equations will be linear most of the time I think... and I'm only using the CPU. So I suspect double wont be much slower.
I'll just use double
thanks guys
 
Xeo
12:44 PM
fuck yeah
just got the best place in the room. Furthest corner from the door, with my back to the corner.
 
too much news ;) — Michał Walenciak 2 mins ago
 
Hmm, I'm thinking I have a single-algorithm 2x2x2 method.
Must be doing something wrong.
 
12:59 PM
0
Q: Singleton class implementation using shared_ptr

Jagan Arikuti#include <iostream> #include <memory> using namespace std; class Demo { static shared_ptr<Demo> d; Demo(){} public: static shared_ptr<Demo> getInstance(){ if(!d) d.reset(new Demo); return d; } ~Demo(){ cout << "Object Destroyed " << endl; ...

^ Destroy it!
 

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