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4:12 AM
Caters 4 ppl with gigantic monitors?
 
Even a 24" 4K display has barely 186 ppi (far below eliminating the pixel grid from view where geometric aliasing becomes a non-issue). People aiming at 4K displays are usually oblivious to this, especially gamers, so they go for 27" and more, dropping below 165.
 
do you sometimes sleep
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor He is secretly nocturnal.
 
Well yeah, 4-5 hours. And on the weekend I take a dive for a bit longer. I have trouble falling asleep because my mind likes to contemplate death when I want to rest.
 
you will die eventually
it's a fact
now go to sleep you silly
 
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4:23 AM
@GregorMcGregor Theoretically, if he lives long enough he could survive to a point where immortality is achieved.
 
Immortality is more terrifying than mortality. :P
 
@Lalaland No
The universe has a finite life
Entropy death is real bbys
 
user406009
What if we discover a way to reverse entropy or travel between universes?
 
If we allow speculative questions then any argument is moot
 
Reversing entropy requires energy input, energy sourcing is coupled with an increase in entropy. At best, entropy can be reversed locally at the expense of something else. :P Your soul. The last thing to survive will be the black holes. They expire via radiation exchange at the boundary.
 
user406009
4:31 AM
I often wonder if we are going to see any major advances in fundamental physics going forward.
 
user406009
All the latest studies I have read about mainly just seem to confirm the Standard Model.
 
user406009
A universe without FTL would be quite disappointing.
 
FTL is mathematically a non-issue (solution of the field equations under GR hold, however they might clash with quantum mechanics). We need matter which will enable us to generate negative energy densities and other interesting properties. And we can only sit on our ass until LHC and its successors/brethren do their thing.
 
I always have depression issue when I wake up in the early morning. I am relatively happy for the rest of the day.
I like danger, it thrills me. Hopefully one day I will be able to design an A.I. Machine that can save me when I finally make some near fatal mistakes in one of those adventures :p
 
5:07 AM
@ThePhD :3
 
5:53 AM
2 days ago, by Xeo
Read The Rules™ and we might like you.
 
6:46 AM
@fredoverflow western kids*
 
Needs moar reflections.
 
@ElimGarak Question
 
@GregorMcGregor Everything
 
I'm not too familiar with the graphics side of GPUs, but are the rasterizers implemented in software or hardware?
The bigger question being: if one decides to not use DX/OpenGL, and to write everything in CUDA/OpenCL, would it be possible to achieve exactly the same result, pixel for pixel, at the same performance, without proprietary knowledge?
asking for a friend
I can reword if unclear
 
7:05 AM
Let me see if I can succinctly put it. I think I get what you're aiming at, when talking about the general/classic graphics pipeline, you had the previous fixed function pipeline where a lot of stuff got packed into those general purpose cores. Rasterizer is the only remnant that is hardcore specialized hardware (analysis of coverage/visibility etc). This is why many techniques which could be more easily done in a compute shader like voxel generation try to take advantage of the hardware rast.
 
So there are some parts that aren't so to speak accessible from any kind of shader?
 
You can easily write a rasterizer, as you know, but matching the performance of dedicated hardware, far from it. Even with optimal rasterization rules mimicking it and going over the land of classic hardware rasterization, you'd be hardpressed to beat it. :D
 
Yup, rasterizer is one of those.
 
Thanks Elim I will sacrifice a few pixels in your honour
praise the Domagod
 
7:08 AM
There is a move to make them generalized as well, AMD kinda has it down almost, but still requires special treatment. Both Nvidia and AMD have specialized graphics command processors/engines, in addition to generic compute ones. They're the only ones which can grant you an audience with the rasterizer.
 
Are those raster units accessible with assembly instructions or is it completely isolated from user code
 
You can't touch them, you can get some system values that the rasterizer generates (coverage), but you can't really tell it what to do. We've been bitching about that for many a year, but alas to no avail. Getting control over it would be a boon to the pixel people.
 
Because I'm making a voxel thingy in OpenCL
And I'm slowly realizing I don't seem to get access to the whole hardware
 
If you're generating voxels, take up OpenGL to generate it and then pass it to OpenCL. If you want fun performance (20 ms for lets say 512x512x512)
 
@ElimGarak You mean the other way around, no?
 
7:14 AM
@GregorMcGregor Well, with OpenGL, you can use the rasterizer to help generate voxels. :D OpenGL 4.3 should be more than sufficient (with compute shaders you don't have to fake kernels with vertex shader IDs and geometry shaders for CR (even though high MSAA can do the trick as well for conservative rasterization)).
 
alrighty then
many a thank
 
This guy had a hard-on for voxel generation using the classic graphics pipeline, it's not really realtime friendly, but a fun research direction. Good place to start on your voxel journey. Scratch that, I can do you one better... Here's the crux of it (OGL). It is based on his work and a few other researchers before him.
 
> Cyril Crassin
I'd do a pun but you don't speak French
Ohhh it's the GigaVoxels guy
 
Yeah
 
bookmarked, thanks
 
7:34 AM
So who here has landed a job programming without being at least certified and what experience did you have
 
Sucked the boss' dick.
 
They don't call you the mouth of the south for nothing
 
@ElimGarak didn't we all
 
You people have so many abbreviations
What is the topic because it sounds like your programming computer chips or writing firnware
And or
Is that mainly what you do in c
Can java run on non Intel chipset
 
Java only runs on coffee mugs
 
7:41 AM
> Hey there …trying to reverse engineer something? why not join our team instead?
o.O
 
@thecoshman Not yet :( I'm a busy idiot. They're heavy :/
 
What is a reverse engineer
inb4 reenigne
 
Probably trying to scavenge code you theif
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :\
@GregorMcGregor someone who specialises in the reverse gear in gear boxes
 
Closing the program well
 
7:49 AM
Can someone perhaps vote to undelete the answer by @jepio? It is absolutely correct as far as I can tell. — Gregor McGregor 1 min ago
 
@GettingNifty God, your attention span.
 
You called :)
 
I'm on mobile at work
 
guys
 
If I had a blackberry I wouldn't have this problem
 
7:53 AM
i have an error
can we discuss it here?
[ c++ ]
 
I have an error, too. My brain keeps generating a high frequency buzz as if in my left ear.
 
Read it out loud child hrm..
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes <classic on/off joke>
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Damn. It's back then?
 
@GregorMcGregor I know the number of that xkcd by heart.
 
7:55 AM
which one
 
whoah huge OB xkcd.com/1590
just found it
 
@sehe It never goes away. Its loudness varies and so does my awareness of it.
 
Yeah. Last time I heard it had gotten more manageable, I remember
How's life anyways. Is the job still ok?
 
You changed jobs recently?
 
7:57 AM
@GregorMcGregor No.
 
What should I know how to do before I get a job lrogramming
 
I will get a formal offer this week, though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Erm. Now that's ambiguous
 
So I might change jobs in the near future.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh wait. You mean, contract renewal?
 
7:57 AM
@sehe Yeah.
 
Program a social network and make millions so that I can land a job at ogles c mansion
 
@sehe No, from another company. I had an interview last Friday.
 
Interesting. Exciting job?
 
I had a job offer too. I told him I wasn't ready but I'd take a look at it.he bought a domain for 5k he said :S
 
8:00 AM
> Polio vaccine drives have helped reduce the global number of new polio cases from 350,000 in 1988 to just 36 so far in 2015.
OMG 349,964 cases of autism!
 
Keep banging the vaccines into your arm until a super virus emerges
From beneath the virioli rubble
My metal boy
 
Rates of medical complications on vaccines are extremely low, what is it, 1 for every million?
Let's check
 
Probably but ill check again later
 
I wonder what those vegan hippies think of forceful human-caused extinction.
 
@GettingNifty i didn't know karate was with a c
 
8:08 AM
some recent vaccines have p high complication rates
 
Eat vegetables or wither like one
 
but measles for example is indeed 1 per million
 
So who exactly is this GettingNifty character?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes humans cause cancer
@ElimGarak I have been looking at this myself for ~3 minutes now. I wasn't sure if just flippant. I'll give him some benefit of some doubt :)
 
Sounds creepy cool man
 
8:12 AM
> Shell Oil Cashier September 2012 to Present
Wat. Though it explains a lot.
 
Sounds like a regular job
 
Cancer comes from small doses of radiation from cigarette smoke and cell oxygen arrest like when u eat cheeseburgers and coat the inside of your colon with horse glue?
3
 
I've seen more interesting ones there :) At least, he had a tug job once o.O
 
Check out my hackthissite.com profile
 
@GettingNifty, do you know there's a reference to you in Fallout New Vegas?
 
8:16 AM
Really? Like what?
 
dat punch line
@GettingNifty So. I hacked it. And now, what do?
 
So can I give my home os a domain and just leave my pc running all day
 
You didn't just ask a yes/no/maybe question
You don't need an os to leave the pc running all day
 
@ElimGarak cicada
 
8:19 AM
negative
 
Gregor's better at this :P
 
a lot
 
Can it be done on any major os
 
You don't need anything running at home to own a domain
 
cicada trying not to look like cicada?
 
8:20 AM
negative
 
sehe you seem to know a lot about this gettingnifty character
 
Where does a server give access via a domain or a url
 
@AlexM. Huh
 
@AlexM. (SO bio)
 
The Domain Name System (DNS) is a hierarchical distributed naming system for computers, services, or any resource connected to the Internet or a private network. It associates various information with domain names assigned to each of the participating entities. Most prominently, it translates domain names, which can be easily memorized by humans, to the numerical IP addresses needed for the purpose of computer services and devices worldwide. The Domain Name System is an essential component of the functionality of most Internet services because it is the Internet's primary directory service. The...
 
8:21 AM
@ElimGarak :blush:
 
@CaptainGiraffe I hope you gave him/her a pretty harsh reply. Rekt his/her rectum.
 
@ElimGarak well it doesn't say on his bio that he's not cicada
 
oooh. proof obtained. bless you
 
> The Number.isFinite() method determines whether the passed value is a finite number.
So naturally Number.isFinite("") returns true
Thanks JabbaScript
 
Oh I'm dumb. So the servers IP address becomes a URL? Domain?
 
8:22 AM
actually wait!
 
@GettingNifty EQUOTADEPLETED
 
@GettingNifty read the damn thing
 
@GettingNifty The IP address turns into a majestic eagle and pecks your eyes out.
 
But can I build a website on my computer that's accessible when I'm online
 
I'm using the global isFinite, not Number.isFinite.
Both have different outputs, ha.
makes perfect sense
 
8:23 AM
useful
 
@GettingNifty Likely, you can't build a website, full stop
 
user1804599
 
can you fap to that?
 
I'm almost sure he does
 
user1804599
8:25 AM
@JohanLarsson No.
 
Nothing wrong with it of course.
 
user1804599
> 100% error free
 
twas a repost
 
Speaking of rightfold's obnoxious t-shirt sentiments, I might order myself a glorious T-shirt littered with equations relating to a solution of Einstein's field equations which allow the formation of a warp field. I am concerned that too many people want to spend time with me and I desire to change that.
 
I want to get my watch_dogs tshirt washed
it works both from a gaming perspective and from a nerd perspective because ascii art cf1.souqcdn.com/item/2014/06/01/69/81/02/8/…
 
8:29 AM
See that's another question are websites mostly mark up then
 
@GettingNifty Most websites are just .txt files, some websites sometimes are .doc or .pdf
 
@AlexM. spooky
 
2spooky
4u
 
2dedsec
How did you find your way to this chat room, @GettingNifty? You're displaying noobness unseen since Anakin Skywalker.
 
it's actually a great tshirt, I've been wearing and washing it for half a year now and the quality didn't drop too much compared to other tshirts
it also dries very quickly and is comfy
I think I'll buy more from the same provider
 
8:33 AM
@ElimGarak I think you don't need more investing in protective measures; Maybe an armoured lock on the door of your basement studio
inb4 I have 3 already
 
I am curious whether the basement meme still works nowadays. I actually grew up in a house without a basement, I imagine many so called "modern" houses since the turn of the century no longer feature one. How about you guys?
 
I live in France.
 
I do remember begging my mother to allow me to occupy the attic back in 2003, but no dice. There was a basement in the old house, but that one was used as a bomb shelter during the war when I was a kiddo. #thugLife
 
here's an old 2spooky game to play this halloween
 
@CatPlusPlus cool story, but Windows only :(
 
8:41 AM
get this: reality TV + haunted mansion + satan
holy shit
 
I was playing Rebel Galaxy yesterday, really enjoying the music.
 
the books + newspapers are legit and contribute to the atmosphere
reading about that house's history was p scary
 
Oops. I can see how basements are less popular then.
We don't have basements, but you don't need one to appreciate the meme
 
@AlexM. Ah, thanks, I’ve been trying to remember the name of that game for a while
 
@LucDanton Which timezone though
 
8:42 AM
@LucDanton yw, if you've played it you surely remember the amazing soundtrack too youtube.com/watch?v=OAbNlS3Vf7o
 
@GregorMcGregor I assure you I live in one of your human timezones
 
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Shameless buttplug
 
@LucDanton missing "and only one"
 
@Elyse I always read buttplug instead of selfplug :D
 
@AlexM. I actually haven’t lol, I remembered the game made a good impression on a reviewer and that was relevant to something in the last month or so, don’t recall what though
 
8:44 AM
it's a really overlooked horror game in the genre
 
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@GregorMcGregor Shameless and only one buttplug
 
were Cryo adventure games always a niche product
 
Well, the horror genre has been oversatured these past few years, right?
 
this one was overlooked at launch too
or maybe I don't remember well
in any case I think the theme is unique and is worth giving it a try
I haven't seen the reality TV show concept in another game and it works OK here
 
@ElimGarak How few is few? It’s a 15 year-old game.
 
8:47 AM
Ah, it's an old release. These days, I attribute the stale graphics to indie immediately. My bad.
 
well I mentioned that it was old
on the first line :P
 
@ElimGarak see here
 
:D Well, currently, that seems to be the case. Can't speak for 15 years ago. But the game did pretty solid in review terms back in the day. IGN gave it 81/100
 
I should I have said "easily forgotten" instead of "overlooked"?
 
It did, which is why I tried to go back to it recently. Because I only ever heard of it through reviews, never from players. And never heard of sequels etc.
 
8:54 AM
So if I can make a shape is it easy to wrap it with a texture
I'm so hungry for data munching
I need to just start working on my game world
Is it going to take me 5 years to make something like gta by myself
 
I done did up a diagram... but it's pure madness
I need like 7D board of something :\
or make it simpler
 
I just get it done then sell my sh*" code to Xbox for a million dollars right
 
Xeo
God you're annoying
 
It's like he's eating shit with a grin.
 
user1804599
8:59 AM
Who is annoying?
 
GettingNifty
 
user1804599
Oh, I plonked that moron yesterday.
 

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