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21:00
@FredOverflow Or when their sentence has been carried to term.
That's when you delete them.
gotta love VLC
who knows encryption? use DES, MD5, Blowfish, or SHA1 for password encryption?
NetBSD configuration hardcore compared to Ubuntu
You don't encrypt passwords.
cipher
Neither MD5 nor SHA1 is encryption.
21:03
Of those, only DES is encryption.
Blowfish, too.
configuration calls them password ciphers
For passwords you want bcrypt, scrypt or PBKDF2.
Slower is better.
21:05
unfortunately, those are not on the list - guess I'll randomly pick one
ic
Better make sure your choice is truly random for extra security. Trust me on this.
apparently this impacts NIS so I'll have to remember which one I pick, tho
Roll a dice for every password.
21:07
lol
Gah, eradicating singletons is tedious.
$ rm -rf /path/to/source/code
Burn it with fire.
refactoring is usually tedious
Well, might as well, as I don't believe it'll ever compile again.
21:09
Oh, there is a slide about vectors and lists on the live feed. And it's gone.
how long is this intermission?
An hour total, but only 5 more minutes now.
~5 minutes.
k - thx
@CatPlusPlus I thought you didn't like watching videos about programming.
21:10
I'm bored.
> Coming Up: Stephan T. Lavavej
yay
how was the first half?
First half of what? Talk hasn't started yet.
Previous one was meh.
I'm watching Bjarne's. It's good.
21:12
ah - ok - I thought intermission implied something occurred before
@CatPlusPlus You mean Arnold Schwarzenegger? ;)
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There are catering staff going around picking up people's dishes.In other words, there are garbage collectors at the #GoingNative conference
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@StackedCrooked You should switch to STL in a minute. :)
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@sbi lawl
21:13
Alright.
Let me know when it starts.
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@kfmfe04 Intermission between talks.
The music stopped.
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@StackedCrooked Now.
Ooh, video.
Alright.
21:14
@StackedCrooked now
I had already switched :)
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I hope you'll all enjoy STL. I'll have to go to bed now, though. I hope I can manage to watch Herb's C++11 talk tomorrow.
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G'night.
Finally his voice again. :)
Oh, look, Firefox 10.
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21:18
lol
Wait, what? I updated to 9 yesterday.
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Seriously, it's starting to get ridiculous.
6-week schedule.
Once it reaches version 100 it will be like we're back in the old system.
100 to 101 is like 1.00 to 1.01
STL can speak very fast while remaining understandable.
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Absolutely
21:24
Stoodvector.
Shirt pooter.
It no longer stands.
Type ratio.
Are we doing a drinking game?
I'm 30 seconds behind live due to buffering.
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Same
21:26
How can you tell?
By times.
When I tried to have my vectors work with a memory pool it was annoying that I had to specify the allocator in the vector type. Type erasure seems very convenient to avoid this.
Or typedef or template aliases. And then you don't pay the costs of type ratio.
You need a pooter.
21:28
ratio has no overhead.
It's compile-time only.
> A Wizard Did It
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Damn buffering.
We know where you live, underscore pooter!
Subtle VC > GCC..
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Hrhr
21:31
He ain't fooling nobody.
STL, we know who you work for.
> throwing move ctors (shock! horror!)
do STL developers worry about licenses? I wonder if they glance at each other's code and adapt as necessary...
Of course they do.
21:36
Lol, "forward list (like anyone uses that one)"
Why would you pair Ramanujan with 57?
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lol'd
I love that guy's remarks
"was not so useful (sorry)"
Standard library doesn't go up to 11.
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"Nice Job breaking it, hero"
Null pooter.
21:40
Sufainee.
> SFINAE: a truly marvelous technique, which this slide is too small to explain
Too small a margin.
He doesn't breathe.
He's a robot.
Why do you think he wears those funny glasses.
21:43
he said meow
He inhales with one lung and exhales with the other.
Ambiguous meow.
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Buffering... T^T
hehe - at least meow is more pleasant than foo
hmmmm i was thinking about adding idelete before i return something... but tht doesnt work ...
21:44
Cats say nyaa.
i would also note, im testing my file in another ui file
▣ꙍ⚀ <meow
It's got underscores everywhere.
@LucDanton What are all those characters? Are you just copy/pasting from the Thai alphabet?
21:46
@KerrekSB Magicks.
Secrets!
٩(•̮̮̃•̃)۶
damn!
٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶ ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶ ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)
amazing
21:48
≖‸≖ stop stealing my thunder
How does he pronounce ConcRT?
My functionilist iappend(ilist il1, ilist il2){
ilist acc = iempty();
while(!iempty_huh(il1)){
acc = icons (ifirst(il1), acc);
il1 = irest(il1);
}

while (!iempty_huh(acc)){
il2 = icons(ifirst(acc), il2);
acc = irest(acc);
}

return il2;
idelete(il2);

}
Conkirt.
21:49
i test on
int main(void){
ilist a = icons(1,icons(2,iempty()));

ilist b = icons(3,icons(4,iempty()));

ilist c = iappend(a,b);
iprint("append", c);
idelete(a);
idelete(c);
idelete(b);
We're busy!
No talking about code while we're listening to people talking about code?
okiie sorry
We're closed. It says so in the room description.
I've shrinked windows to see both chat and stream.
21:51
ohh my bad didnt read
@CatPlusPlus Single screen?
Yeah.
It'd be more uncomfortable on two screens.
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Wait, range-based for in VC11?
Who said that?
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STL, indirectly
21:52
I missed that.
Oh, you mean the slide?
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Yeah
Previous slides had variadic templates.
I didn't take that to mean there are variadic templates on VC11.
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Not in "show-off code"
It doesn't go up to 11!
It's called "twenty minutes into the future".
IOW, fiction‌​.
Oooh.
He'll announce it now.
21:55
Inb4 VC20.
Yay, features in VC11.
Yay, range-based for in beta.
WHO CARES.
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"And now do that for variadic templates!" :>
How many people do they have working on the compiler?
@sbi Hello - I need your insights in your knowledge if you are willing to share? :)
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21:58
I hope not a single one like STL...
Oh, right, IntelliSense is even brokener in Beta.
No IS in beta.
WHO CARES.
Gosh.
Variadic templates, dammit!
Did he title every slide with a trope name?

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