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00:00
@ElimGarak Holy shit.
I'm less than that in pounds.
@Nooble Yeah. Not even 198 cm height didn't help. Now it is 103.
Still need to lose 6-8 kg.
@ElimGarak congrats! that's a lot of weight loss
It just hit me. Is Elim a Domagoj incarnation?
lord almighty
@sehe Who?
00:01
or this:
@ElimGarak You're really tall.
Most people just noticed how fat I was.
now I feel short
@ʞɔᴉN Lol ok.
00:02
@ʞɔᴉN Mr. 6' 99"
@Nooble I forget are you taller or shorter than @jag ?
What, nobody here was fat?
@sehe but Domagoji wasn't very fat?
never
@ʞɔᴉN taller
00:02
@ʞɔᴉN Taller, that's why I was celebrating.
ahaha my man
@chmod711telkitty you would know
what is this Domagoji?
Emoji?
google will not provide insight on these matters
00:03
@ʞɔᴉN (Don't tell Nooble, but it's not very hard to be taller than me)
k I won't tell him
Also, how do people lift those weights without breaking their back?
@ElimGarak back muscles
And how do they put them down without killing themselves or other people?
@ʞɔᴉN What aren't you telling me D:
00:04
14 secs ago, by ʞɔᴉN
@ElimGarak back muscles
@ElimGarak usually they drop it
and excellent form
without form you are nothing
Also, you guys seem to be mentioning old regulars here all the time, how old is this room?
29 secs ago, by ʞɔᴉN
@ElimGarak usually they drop it
if you have bumper plates it'll bounce a little bit but it won't go anywhere
00:04
the ground can handle it
this room is OVER 9000 years old
@ElimGarak older than time itself
> first message 2010-10-15
user406009
I've been on here for at least 3 years.
how do i not break my knuckles from typing all day]
I noticed that Cat Plus Plus is kinda important. Because he keeps talks a lot of shit without consequences.
00:05
excellent form
and knuckle muscles
user406009
Don't look at my old messages though. I used to be really dumb.
user406009
I still am, but less so.
@ElimGarak cat doesn't talk shit, he's actually a really nice guy
00:06
@Lalaland lol
sehe seems to be instantly recognized here even though he doesn't speak much, Puppy too.
@Lalaland I know, right.
So them three?
God if you looked at the questions I've asked.
sehe's been on vacay for a while
00:06
I'm like the owner of this room.
So, yeah.
@ElimGarak See the section "frequently in this room", and you'll have an idea chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/10/loungec
note that there are more and more than that
@unordered_meow I don't think I'll ever be there.
I mean what does it take?
A few decades?
@Nooble In the best case scenario
A few millennia? @millenniumbug
00:09
I am not on that list either, must be broken
Seems like a lot of regulars up and leave after a while
You basically have to outlive all the others listed there
nooble could probably do it
user406009
@ElimGarak Not really too much variety here I guess.
@ʞɔᴉN Lol.
user406009
00:09
Only a couple of new people per month at most.
@ElimGarak You've diagnosed life
Pyglet is awesome
@Lalaland And that's a problem I can solve #NOOBLE2016
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I like it here. No identity, all that crap. No need to be polite and consider too much what you're going to say.
It uses up-increasing Y coordinates
user406009
00:10
@ElimGarak Welcome to the internet. Where no one know that you are a dog.
instead of down-increasing like other libraries I used
@unordered_meow is that what you're using for the marmalade?
think I played around with pyglet for a bit
I like virtual friends. They don't ask me to do their homework, their work or fix their shit.
user406009
But, we can't buy you a beer.
@ElimGarak but you don't have a real shoulder to cry on
I don't really emote much. Bit of a stoic.
@ʞɔᴉN Maybe I will, I'll have to a.) learn the API b.) don't ragequit in the middle because I couldn't come up with a decent game idea
@ElimGarak eh...using inheritance?
@jaggedSpire How tall are you again?
I forgot...
user406009
Are we going to form teams for the marmalade?
00:13
@Nooble Five foot three
user406009
That might be fun.
@unordered_meow have you had a look at cocos2d?
the python version
its built on top of pyglet I believe
> virtual functions can only be member functions. You can't have virtual non-member function.
00:13
not sure if the python branch gets much love though
Once, I was offered $3 to fix a man's computer when I was in my teens. It was hilarious. He thought it was a genuine offer.
Mind you, I didn't ask him. In fact, I tried to evade him in public and failed.
@ElimGarak I would've done it.
I mean that's large fries right there. And 50 cents leftover.
Or 10 copies of Bad Rats.
@jaggedSpire Hey my mom is 5'3" also.
user406009
@ElimGarak Well, that probably would have been about minimum wage.
@Lalaland You can if you'd like.
my mom is taller than your mom!
00:15
@Nooble neato
@Lalaland depends on when and where
can you believe that
X.myMethod() is dynamic
myMethod(x) is static
I know people who are 200+ cm, so I know how average height people feel around higher people. I feel like I can get beat up, the most hilarious thing is when it is night and you're standing by a light post, you're literally in a man's shadow.
May be related that I live 40 meters from a basketball court.
@ʞɔᴉN yes
00:17
@ʞɔᴉN :(
@ʞɔᴉN u mad? tell me where i'm wrong?
jk
i need pizza
brb
@Nooble by like 1 inch maybe :P
user406009
Hey, anyone want to team up with me for the Marmalade? I am fine with either Rust or Python.
@DonLarynx fite me irl
and bring me a slice
@Lalaland What can you do in a few hours?
00:18
@ElimGarak It's a game jam.
I shall use jabbascript
Use an open source game engine if you'd like.
Do you guys actually do anything? From what I've seen thus far, you're all pretty lazy :P
Or make your own in the two weeks notice.
@ElimGarak i am so offend
user406009
00:18
I don't know. My current best idea is space invaders. With comments as the invaders. And you fire stars at them.
@Lalaland Well.
We need a theme first.
Which is decided 24 hours before.
To discourage cheating.
@ElimGarak i made this no but srsly, Puppy is working on a language, the robot has a unicode thing, gaems were made during the past game jams, hmmm what else...
@DonLarynx alright that's it meet me on the court
@ElimGarak this tells you stuff about what you are seeing
user406009
00:20
@ElimGarak I made chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/star-gazer/… in a couple of hours.
user406009
The greatest extension ever.
@Borgleader erm. Most people just have work.
And then there's SO too
@Lalaland pretty great but I'll probably not ever install it
@Borgleader I've been meaning to ask, why do I need to create opengl.cpp/hpp? If it's like one of those "libraries", does it call a function?
feels like too much info
00:21
@Borgleader Why the weird name? :D
@Borgleader There's only one true Gaem.
@Nooble Oh, I didnt want to bundle the files in the lib because its "header only", but i can give you the ones im working with right now. (all the gl::XYZ calls are in the opengl.hpp/.cpp
@ElimGarak Library Library OpenGL.
@ElimGarak Low Level OpenGL
The name could be better!
00:22
apple LLVM
@Borgleader Oh I see.
user406009
I can't wait until we get modules and header only libraries fall by the wayside.
Anybody has a reddit account?
you'll be waiting for a little while
user406009
I have multiple.
00:25
@Lalaland We will never live to see them.
user406009
For various uses.
I don't even reddit
Could I send you a message so you can vouch for my second secret identity there? I need to show you guys something cool I did, since we're all sharing.
Who needs reddit when you have meta?
user406009
00:26
user406009
And now there is enough of a trail to dox that account.
P.s. I am still Q banned on meta </oxymoron>
user406009
You can get banned from Meta?
user406009
How does that even make sense?
@Lalaland just like any other SE site i assume
why would meta be any different
00:28
There, what's my username?
user406009
Because meta is where you go to discuss stuff like bans.
user406009
SecretInternetGuy
user406009
Wow, that's amazing modeling.
@ElimGarak keybase.io
00:30
@ElimGarak That's your engine?
Well, fuck.
@Nooble Old version of it, early 2014.
Actually, June of 2014.
It's okay, I still have some purpose.
Don't have time for it anymore, unfortunately.
@ElimGarak The modelling is really good.
And so is the lighting, the depth of field.
Everything.
Depth of light is not physical, probably one of the mistakes people make. Layering and gaussian convolution. The physics of DoF don't translate well to game engines.
Still have issues with foreground bleeding into the background though, mostly far field only for sexiness.
00:32
I say Domagoj
I love how loungers keep suspecting people of being other people
@Borgleader Ok, Cicada.
How is that worth noting. It's the internet. Accounts get renamed
Who's Cicada?
@Borgleader pls stop cicada
00:33
@ElimGarak You.
I solved it guys.
The woman guy guy?
I had tits like a woman, but I assure you, I am not Cicada.
Actually, bigger.
user406009
No, the timezones don't match.
@ElimGarak That's LRiO.
Well, timezones denote a pretty fat slice of Earth.
user406009
00:35
I like how people still delete things. Even though it no longer does anything.
@Lalaland Shhhh.
because reasons
@Lalaland Could you please sign the plugin?
lala is going to dox us all I know it
00:36
It's not installable in newest FFs
@ʞɔᴉN nah, he embedded a bitcoin miner in it :)
@Nooble You're confused
@Borgleader wouldn't put it past him
@sehe The woman guy guy?
Oh. I suppose it could be rightfold too.
user406009
Shoot, my server went down and I lost nab's message.
00:37
@ElimGarak have you seen: shadertoy.com/view/XtlSD7 ?
@sehe you miss him too much, it's written all over you
I do
@Borgleader Ha, that's pretty cool!
@Lalaland ah what a shame
But programmable GPUs have gotten really powerful, still not enough, tho. :(
00:39
I want realtime ray tracing
@ʞɔᴉN Still ways off, I've done some experiments running it on the GPU, looked like shit due to noise (stochastic nature) and ran even worse :D
Discretizing scene geometry into an acceleration structure, filtering on the fly and cone tracing (and derivatives) is the way to go.
One of my chickens has short legs, almost no neck & looks like an idiot (amongst the chickens) & sometimes acts like one. But I still love her dearly.
She's like a warm soft toy that's capable of running away from me
@ElimGarak no shortcuts/optimizations, I must have the real deal
user406009
00:44
@nabijaczleweli The firefox one is supposedly reviewed by now. Are you still unable to install?
All production renderers (both CPU and GPU) are basically stochastic in nature, so it is almost never the real deal. :D
That's the only chance you've got of evaluating the integrals in the time you're alive :D
@Lalaland Yes, FF also says the file is corrupt (apparently)
The basis for the stochastic-based rendering is actually from the Manhattan Project and the development of the nuclear bomb.
user406009
Hmm.
But then again, a lot of stuff is. The Monte Carlo suite of "tools".
There it was used to study the propagation of neutrons after a detonation into the environment, based on probability.
user406009
00:47
@nabijaczleweli Downloading FF now and debugging.
@Lalaland I told you about this.
Fun fact, Stanislaw Ulam named them after a casino at which his uncle liked to gamble. Well, fun for people like me without friends. :P
@Lalaland Currently running newest FF Developer edition (42.0a2 (2015-08-23))
@chmod711telkitty she reminds me of you
So if you like playing pretty games, you're condoning WMD research.
00:49
Funny thing, it works on mobile
user406009
Oh, it might be the developer version of FF.
user406009
Cause I know it works on FF 40
The night build?
@ElimGarak Nice try. 4/10 for funny
@ʞɔᴉN You know how it is in real-time graphics: fake it fake it fake it.
00:49
You'd like Domagoj
@Borgleader And now I'm really off to bed.
Night, sehe!
@sehe Good night sweet polar bear.
Night all
@sehe good night sweet prince
@Nooble Yeah, it's not a stretch to say you need to be an expert forgery artist.
Because the things that happen in one nanosecond around us couldn't be adequately processed by all the computers on the planet.
But fake stuff can look good. I like the gamey look. Photorealism (actual photorealism, not what publishers say is photorealistic) would be disturbing in a game like GTA.
00:54
@ElimGarak Yep.
Time to figure out phong shading.
Make sure you incorporate energy conservation early into your BRDFs.
It took the rest of the game industry 40 years.
Oh, did I mention how 90% once lit shit in gamma space?
@Nooble ez
@ElimGarak I think you're in a different world right now man
Yeah, so what could we talk about at this hour?
user406009
Yep, I am able to repro in FF 42. Now I gotta fix it somehow.
00:59
@Lalaland Try signing it

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