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09:05
that time of the month again
I just love this chat, I could almost use it as my personal calendar!
@orlp Nice one. I like the harpsichord :)
@MaiLongdong nobody. They put it in <string.h>
@thecoshman writhing
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A: Register keyword in C++

Fred LarsonAccording to Herb Sutter, it is "exactly as meaningful as whitespace."

09:21
Woot, another package stolen from Ivan.
This time involving his fake signature.
"Es gibt ein Paket für mein Brudder. Er hat hier untergeschrieben." Done.
Oh. Wrong participle.
Still worked.
> Brudder
lel
I'm usually only required to sign. No reasons whatsoever, no ID even. Just, any signature will do (unless it's registered mail)
I wasn't home.
Huh.
The package was left at a UPS Access Point or whatever. A "Packet Shop" as they call it here.
I went in with the notice signed by Ivan authorizing me to pick it up.
Xeo
Xeo
Yeah, figured that'd work
09:29
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well. Unless it's registered mail, I don't think a notice would usually be required. Just the "routing slip"/"deliverny notification" thing
@R.MartinhoFernandes They use English for that?
The notice clearly said a signature was needed.
Well. Clearly the French are superior chauvinists
Oh, well. Who reads the notices
Xeo
Xeo
You either need to show up yourself with the notice (and ID), or write the name of an authorized person on it and sign it (who then needs to show up with their ID)
I want to learn coding
It even had blanks to put the name of the person doing the pick up and to sign
09:30
@user2713461 Nice. Good luck.
guys, I'm having trouble rewording a question.
thank you
@edition Nice. Good luck.
wait o_0 auto was initially a keyword to tell the compiler to do what it was going to do any way?
09:31
what to start with ??
I need something more challenging
@user2713461 CS university I believe
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Like, I can't just ask 'why does this work'
Or maybe stop before I go to jail for fraud.
@edition You probably can
09:32
Victimless fraud.
@edition you just did
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes The victim is poor Ivan who's never going to get his packages!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think there is a victim. Suppose the intended recipient depends critically on prompt delivery of the packets
I'm the recipient.
Suppose he mails the sender with delivery complaints
Ivan is not a person.
Suppose the supplier resends the item.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Huh. I missed a turn then
@R.MartinhoFernandes You need a better name
I made up Ivan to steal his packages.
If Ivan is not a person, and he orders packages, who actually did order them (do you use fake ID for privacy raisons)
09:34
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe make him a person :O
@thecoshman What the fuck
Did you just see that?
get him social security and what not
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have to do more in order to qualify for "thievery"
I ordered them.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it's honey pots baiting script kiddies
09:35
@thecoshman There was a huge attack from China to US
and then Israel
Like they even added flames at the point of attack
Nothing to do with privacy. More to prove a point.
And have fun committing fraud.
@R.MartinhoFernandes So you didn't steal. <sad-trombone.mp4>
The only distinction is the fact that Ivan is my alter ego.
09:37
@thecoshman what the fuck is the relevance of St Louis?
@Griwes Area 51
@R.MartinhoFernandes And since he's not a legal entity, it's not theft
Trying to mess with tag dispatching, overloading, inheritance and SFINAE. It doesn't work quite well. I see how to solve the problem with concepts, not without. That sucks.
Oh come on, who's flagging
LRiO probably
09:39
downvoted :(
Didn't say it was theft.
@Griwes vOv
It's fraud. I impersonated Ivan, Ivan's flatmate and Ivan's brother.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Err, isn't that in Nevada?
09:42
There isn't anyway to get that "more constrained" thing with SFINAE, right? The overloads will be either viable or not but there is no notion of order.
@Griwes isn't Nevada the state? St Louis the actual area?
@thecoshman St Louis is in Missouri.
peeps: hello
Like, 2/3rd of the States away.
09:43
@Griwes vOv could be more of them
Can I be made member of the org? @CatPlusPlus?
to learn DP, what should I read ?
@thecoshman The pings on the map definitely target St Louis, Missouri.
@user2713461 What's DP?
I taught my chickens to love seafood :p prawn heads have become their favourite
09:44
Aug 10 at 13:11, by Xeo
Want to live a happy life? Read The Rules.
Dynamic programming
@user2713461 Why do you want to learn dynamic programming?
@ScottW Hey, I was gonna say that! You stole that.
data processing?
@user2713461 Err... Cormen?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Put some more violence into you C++? Well, it looks like it may help to solve my problem. Thanks ^_^
09:45
Datagram Protocol
@Griwes what???
11 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I made up Ivan to steal his packages.
In the lounge, things are routinely taken literally
@user2713461 Cormen.
what cormen?
Be a useful human and do Google that for yourself.
09:46
lol
book author?
your mom
@user2713461 The Cormen.
@user2713461 Google it and you'll know.
Just search "cormen" and you'll figure that out
09:46
36 secs ago, by Griwes
Be a useful human and do Google that for yourself.
Also dynamic programming is terrible
I'm not sure the "useful" part is quite guaranteed, but at least don't require us to be useful
It's tiring
@Mr.kbok Yes. Even I am. So I get to occasionally need one more click using github...
09:48
@Griwes thank you
where are you from ?
Hell. Obviously
The depth of hell. Obviously
Slowpoke
@user2713461 You can Google that!
@sehe which one?
09:49
lol
@Mr.kbok Erm. The left mouse button, if you must know
"My dream is to learn dynamic programming"
Seriously
Learn to dream
@user2713461 you need to learn to use tools, for example, you can read griwes or sehe's profile to find out where they are from
My dream is to get boost 1.59 to compile cleanly with g++ 5.2
09:50
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ With mundane ambitions like these, you can be sure all your dreams will come true.
It's like going "My dream is to learn to use a retractor"
@MaiLongdong Are both released already?
Actually...
My dream is to eat cake at supper
@MaiLongdong are your dreams always so boring?
09:50
chmod 000
4
@Griwes well yes do you live under a rock it's been nearly a week now
well, now I understand C naming conventions properly!
@edition do you feel better now?
@MaiLongdong Been a short while since I actually did C++. :P
@TonyTheLion no
09:51
C maiming conventions
2
@Mr.kbok I have the same dream ... with an extra condition - eat cake at supper & never gain weight
@MaiLongdong "what ever the fuck you want" is still a convention
butter cream cake ...
I have a dream....
My dream is that one day telkitty's adipocytes turn into neurons
09:53
@MaiLongdong Never gonna happen
Is Clang 3.7 also released already?
@Griwes Google it
Oh.
Tomorrow!
09:53
@TonyTheLion ha, I don't even need to!
Donald Trump: I like the military.
This is going to end badly
I can just type l, l, enter. :D
@chmod711telkitty oh. american style "cake". aka dump of cream
that's what the cake is for, isn't it?
I think the main thing Trump has going for him is that he is not bought out by anybody.
09:54
The cake is a lie.
@TonyTheLion Maybe
@TonyTheLion that we know of yet
I wanna C trump vs putin
fireworks!
what should I start reading from today ?
He doesn't seem like a good diplomatic
09:55
@user2713461 the Bible
I sense WW3 in the air
@user2713461 Newspaper
guys, what the hell is wrong with my question? stackoverflow.com/questions/32114650/…
it lacks a question mark
09:57
@Mr.kbok Just submitted mine
@edition Looks fine to me
Ship it
What is this Lounge Game Marmalade about?
Making games
The memories....
The last time we attempted that, we got far.... </sarcasm>
09:59
Hey!
9 hours ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
let's build a A.I. bot
RIP Kyrostat
*A.G.I
> Science, discovered the enzyme that turns a coffee with friends in a Facebook album of 40 photos
lol
@Griwes the holy Qu'ran, infidel
10:05
@TonyTheLion Actually the last marmalade (not sure if we can call that a game) went pretty well
@Mr.kbok I was thinking of Kyrostat, which was a different kind of project.
Only realized too late Marmalade was a different thing
@Mr.kbok what is it?
Xeo
Xeo
@sehe a jam
well
My vote goes to A.I. bot - the never ending influx of newbs is the best catalyst for a better A.I. bot
10:17
a jam ^
I prefer paper or pearl
Fagler St.
Fags aren't saints
going grocery shopping ...
the suspense!
hope she returns alive
10:24
guys, think positive! unless you have to get an STD test
Well. Think positive even then. Just think negative correctly when evaluating the result
That's quite offensive towards people who have STDs, you know. Please mind your words.
Would you like me to joke on your illnesses or disabilities?
@MaiLongdong would you say it's patriarchal?
@MaiLongdong yes
@MaiLongdong You already do
Sorry I don't make fun of retards
(do I even sound credible?)
well at least I tried
10:27
@MaiLongdong you sound as credible as a successful politician
I cried
@sehe F
> successful
subiective
successfull?
successful...
o pedants
10:29
I don't know why people misspell successfull so often, but no one writes hatefull
people rarely spell hateful correctly either.
oh god
@MaiLongdong it's slow work
I wanted to write a funny misspelling of that sentence
but I already cracked up at the first word:
poeple
if you speak dutch you'll know why
@orlp Actually, we might be on the verge of "hateful" apocalypse: google.com/trends/…
@orlp If you don't, but are called @ScottW you will too.
And by now, everyone bored enough to goegle that
@sehe what the fuck
try using google trends and NOT get a random african country in the top 5
> random
I don't think that word means what you think it means
apparently "C++" is very popular in Kenya
10:36
It is. They have the Kilimanjaro, and everybody knows it helps to be high when appreciating c++
@orlp Thanks Obama
Kill Imanjaro
Do it your fucking self, cunt
Have I mentioned I'm from Uganda
Limpopo, even
10:37
Yes, the capital
@MaiLongdong Does everyone in Uganda have a long dong?
With the nice zoo
No. My sister lives there.
BAM. That's Popper for you
@orlp I'd have to sample the entire population to answer that
Falsified ^^
@MaiLongdong Only if true.
10:38
Which is likely
Are you implying my sister has a long dong?
so...
anyone here watch rick and morty?
@sehe you should know ;)
Well. In a way she has, unless the prenuptials...
#pragma not_even_once
10:41
@Morwenn randomaccess inherits from bidirectional
every random access iterator is also a bidirectional one
@orlp Well yeah, but if I put the overloads in C it works fine. Inheriting the overloads makes the call ambiguous.
@Morwenn Because there's no overload resolution going on... coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/ec106e099a6d6202
It looks the names up.
It finds them in two different places.
That ain't overload resolution.
hehe. great minds...

... weren't harmed here
10:43
@sehe But I can't use using Args::foo...; IIRC.
Multiple inheritance is always fishy.
@Morwenn what is Args... Talk like a pirate day?
@sehe My version uses a consistent bracing style!
@sehe looks like I'm wrong
welp
@sehe Template parameter pack.
10:43
@Morwenn Don't inherit from that!
@Griwes My bad then, I thought overload resolution happened.
Give me a sec, I'll show you something.
inb4 dick pic
10:45
sehe is crazy today
The colours are nice.
doesn't look like mine
@Griwes Well yeah, that's what I was about to do, but using Args::foo...; would have been handier.
10:47
@Morwenn vOv
This is more extensible.
inb4 YAGNI
I tend to avoid recursion when I can. But... well, here I can't.
Recursion is neat.
Especially when it's essentially foldl.
(As it is in this case.)
In-place variadic expansion is neat too.
Fold >> variadic expansion.
fuck you and fuck your shit
#define if(x) if ((x) && (x))
10:50
Which is why fold expressions are one of the most important features ever.
@Griwes Which is why I'm still trying to have them fixed.
They are broken?
Their default return values when a parameter pack is empty are dumb.
Nah.
That's not a terribly important case.
#define isnan(x) false
10:52
Just error on foo + ..., and don't error on foo + ... + 0, fixed.
Most of them are at best useless and will at worst introduce silent errors.
Give the feature a month from their initial implementation and all the sane compilers will have a warning for those "silent" errors.
The standard is broken anyway.
10:54
@Griwes That's not a valid reason to break it even more.
because it still tries to maintain backwards compatibility vOv
@Morwenn Tell that to the Trio.
@Griwes Trio?
I don't remember who it was, but I think it was Andrew Sutter, who at one evening at C++Now this year said "oh yeah. Bjarne, Gabriel and Herb. When those three set on a feature, there's not much you can do".
@orlp Bjarne Stroustrup, Herb Sutter, Gabriel Dos Reis.
(That's just my personal way of referring to them :P)
@Griwes Is Andrew Sutter the C++ monster-child of Herb Sutter and Andrew Sutton?

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