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7:02 PM
So it's not even printing out anything to syserr
great...
 
@AlexM. so spoiled
@buttifulbuttefly just markdown + pandoc
 
@sehe Hi
 
Lo
Yup. Definitely looks like the better protocol. ACK
 
inb4 wtf it's useless
silently admire its beauty
 
@CatPlusPlus I have jumped to using Pandoc. Awesome, see wcm1.web.rice.edu/my-academic-book-in-plain-text.html
 
7:09 PM
@MarcoA. meh, it's just syntactic sugar
 
@MarcoA. I like it. It's not useless
@milleniumbug Go back to C, troll :)
 
Unrolling sizeof(Args)... in the Sum metafunction isn't that harder
 
@MarcoA. you can make it return the average size and use sizeof...(Type) as well :)
@milleniumbug Show us
 
@sehe average size : O
that would be an engineering question
"calculate the average size of all types and allocate, more or less, the needed space"
 
:D and reasonable girth
 
7:11 PM
i.e. crash
 
Only when storing zero elements it will crash
 
that is true
(assuming no truncations)
 
should be trivial to solve that.
 
actually I was trying to find a somewhat useful use for fold expressions
"making the code readable and/or clearer" definitely counts as useful
 
fun fact: you can't run MS's tool to make a USB stick bootable from in Safe Mode.
 
7:14 PM
but you can make a partition primary
 
I have no idea what that means.
 
@Borgleader nope
also sold my steam sale trading card
not very interested in the steam minithings
more often than not the things you get back are not worth the effort
 
hmm I think I came across one use where folding with comma would work well
 
yep, but it's more work
since you need to walk all the arguments
 
man I wish developers didn't keep on changing basic control schemes in sequels
 
7:16 PM
I believe it's clearer with the fold exp
 
click on troops, click to move, right click to deselect has been a thing in stronghold since the first game
now they changed it :\
can't rebind
 
assuming you already have a sum metafunction (why wouldn't you?)
that's one-line change
 
still prefer my solution though
 
I have a problem , can you please help me ? :)
 
[&](auto & map, int x, int y) -> auto & {...}
So beautiful
 
7:19 PM
@Shubham unless it's a ruby problem, we can't help
 
@Shubham What is it?
 
we all love ruby here
 
codechef.com/problems/HEADBOB I am working on this codechef problem
here's the code
 
@MarcoA. [Ruby loathing intensifies]
 
It is shwing different outputs
for same inputs
 
7:20 PM
Undefined behavior probably.
 
@Shubham Dont post code inline
 
1 message moved to bin
 
like if i run sample input from codechef which is 3
5
NNNYY
6
NNINNI
4
NNNN
 
Cool we don't care
 
@CatPlusPlus danke
 
7:20 PM
it shows different output for 3rd case
whereas if its run separately
 
@Shubham Post it on ideone/pastebin
 
Question: is there a tool like the Visual Studio 2010 removal tool for Visual Studio 2013?
 
@Shubham theres a bug in your code, use a debugger
 
or coliru
 
7:21 PM
because if there's one, I can't find it
 
Don't post it
Go to snack overflow or wherever else
 
@milleniumbug Well. I'd not be ok with people implementing that unless they were writing a TMP library (why would you)
 
@AlexM. but but, virtual internet points D:
profile levels!
e-penis! (or e-vagina, im not sexist)
 
YOU GET PROFILE LEVELS
 
@NateKerkhofs And if there is not?
 
7:23 PM
IM IN
 
user1804599
Write the sum metafunction in terms of a constexpr function.
 
My Steam profile is private
 
@rightfold better already
 
@AlexM. youre lvl 31, im lvl 30 T_T
 
I want to buy clicker upgrades but it doesn't load
 
7:24 PM
cool background btw
 
At least you can join games now
 
@Borgleader YOU MEAN IM LVL "NOT ENOUGH"
 
@AlexM. Wait what are you guys doing?
 
"Waiting for more players to join the game"
man this takes long
 
It lags like fuck, just do something else
You won't be doing any interacting anyway probably
 
7:25 PM
whoa 3 lanes
I go mid or I feed
 
@AlexM. By profile levels btw, i meant you get the cards -> redeem badge -> points -> which increases your lvl at some point
 
mobas are dumb
Also the only number that matters on Steam profile is years on the service badge
 
@CatPlusPlus kinda yea
 
Xeo
@Borgleader You also get up to 200xp just for clearing some levels
 
@Xeo Oh really? Cool!
 
Xeo
7:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus Eh, interactively farming gold on bosses :D
 
I need to be invited to the steam group.
 
dayum
 
In my game I'm at level 220
 
I found some pictures on my backup drive
must be at least 10 years old
 
Xeo
7:27 PM
I was in level 3280 yesterday
 
hahahahah what
 
@Xeo I bought things but in the end the lag is just too much to actually play it
 
waaaaaaaaat
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Dunno, I didn't have a problem, really
 
If you join the game immediately when the day starts then you can just idle through the entire 24 hours
 
Xeo
7:27 PM
it may lag for a few seconds at a time, but that's not really problematic
@CatPlusPlus I can join any game < 3290 today
No wait, 3830
I flipped some digits there
> Highest Level
3,820
Most Gold
7.008M
 
It's fairly pointless either way
I got to 410
 
Xeo
true
But I wanna see how far they can push it
the highest clearing badge says level 300k
which is a bit lunatic
 
still waiting for players
starting to think it's not worth it
 
The unlocks are not particularly interesting
@AlexM. Just close it and do something else
 
maybe I should take a shower and play CS GO instead
 
7:29 PM
Go back in few hours
 
@CatPlusPlus that sounds sane, yes
 
Xeo
It's multiplayer cookieclicker, so eh
 
My mouse has a special 'press the left mouse button as fast as you can'
I just keep it pressed
 
Xeo
@milleniumbug some people got banned from the summer event for using an autoclicker
 
I mean you play for things like Plants and Zombies and Evoland
Come on
 
7:30 PM
@milleniumbug I need that mouse.
What's it called?
 
autoclickers are dumb
 
using autoclickers is tryhard level
 
@Nooble AutoHotkey
 
@CatPlusPlus I have that. My whole numpad is binded to things.
 
At higher levels clicking in this game is absolutely pointless
 
7:31 PM
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus nuke or bust
 
Better to just buy nukes and shit
 
Xeo
I love clicking on bosses, though
It feels nice to get 7M gold per click
 
> In one review someone mentioned that you can't cripple the AI even when destroying their supply lines since they just spawn units out of nowhere.
this really annoyed me about stronghold
 
Does anyone here have Payday 2?
 
7:32 PM
I do
@Xeo Oh boy do I have entire genre of games for you
 
@Xeo Yeah, spam clicking bosses is so rewarding all that gold.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus :D
 
Which don't lag
 
Xeo
Dunno, summer game isn't lagging for me either
atm
 
7:33 PM
It's more responsive once all merkins go to sleep
 
I hope I'll be able to rebind stronghold 2 mouse buttons somehow
left clicking to move is hardwired in my brain after so many years of stronghold :<
 
Xeo
crit is so useless
 
user1804599
clit
 
Xeo
the crit chance pertains to each gametick
 
@Nooble It's fun for Bastion as dual revolvers shoot as fast as you can click, and keeping LMB pressed fires slower than you could by repeatedly clicking.
 
7:34 PM
@Puppy How hard is it to implement uh... idk how to call this... running errors? Like yknow how any compiler wont stop at the first error while compiling (unless it reaches X amount where X is often 100) ? How hard is that to implement vs well right now i just throw an exception cuz... simplicity =/
 
Xeo
if you have 50% crit chance, you have a chance of 50% that one of your clicks from that gametick is converted to a crit
which is useless...
since the game ticks once per second
 
@Borgleader Depends on what the error is and exactly how you want to recover.
some of them are easy, some of them are very difficult.
 
@Xeo Some said 1.6s
 
Update: Turns out GCC is just not starting
apparently it's encountering an error
 
Too lazy to see jabbascript
Cool story
 
7:35 PM
you forgot the "bro"
 
@Puppy Well I mean... I wouldnt mind implementing the easy ones, and not recovering on the hard ones for now. I just meant like, the "system" in general. Do you just return a sort of optional "ast something or error" or like... ?
im just not sure how that works, since you end up with an incomplete ast
 
@Borgleader For parse errors, I just throw an exception. I used to have an error recovery scheme but it's just not that useful for parse errors as re-parsing a single file is pretty trivial work and it's easy for the human to fix the error.
 
@Skylion ldd, strace, reinstall Arch :/
 
I am not using arch
I am using MinGW
 
7:37 PM
and even if you recover the future parse or semantic errors are fairly useless
IMO error recovery is mostly useful in the semantic phase because re-analyzing the whole codebase could take a long time, and it's relatively easily to treat individual units like functions in isolation
but if you have some advanced incremental re-analysis stuff it could be not worth it even then
ultimately error-recovery is a complete guessing game, the output is often crap, and it's a lot of effort
depends on your exact implementation strategy as to how to handle it really
there's no generic technique
 
@johnregehr are there serious academics who touch Microsoft's bullshit (which the firm calls "software" for some yet unknown reason)?
Ahaha - troll fail
 
i was just wondering about the general difficulty level of the feature in order to determine if i can/should start working on it now
i guess I'll just keep throwing exceptions for the time being
 
yeah
but there are some features it's definitely worth thinking about in advance.
I'll tell you two features I really wish I'd built Wide to handle from the first day
the first is return type inference from multiple branches, and the second is inferring lambda captures without duplicating name lookup
 
user1804599
@sehe it is best to avoid idiots when elimination is not viable.
 
@sehe I actually figured it out myself. Turns out you just run the installer again
with the /uninstall and /force switches
 
7:53 PM
o.o my std::is_const answer is now my 5th top voted... apparently learning the ways of TMP is the key to getting rep
 
@NateKerkhofs Good! (Consider posting and self answering on SO. Especially if you know the cause of the problem in the first place. I'd +1 that for helpful information)
 
@Borgleader well, that shouldn't be a surprise, right. A "reputation" is about that
 
@sehe actually, that's where I got the idea from. there was actually already a question on that on SO, but because it was closed as off-topic, I didn't look closely at it until today
I'm actually surprised that it's closed as off-topic, since it's a question about a software development tool
which I understand are on-topic in SO
 
@sehe I mean, TMP seem to give more rep than regular C++ questions. Which I guess isnt surprising since regular C++ questions tend to be "debug my code", "i dont a ub" or some other basic issue
*dont -> done
 
7:56 PM
Question from a noob:
What's the main difference between modules and a big function that call others functions?
 
what? that makes no sense
 
The main difference is that they're completely unrelated
 
@LucasHenrique Er... they're completely different?
Asking this question implies you don't know at least what one of these does.
 
@milleniumbug that's the point.
I just read the first 5 words of Wikipedia's definition
 
Isn't a module just a big function that calls other functions, that you can then plug into other code?
 
7:58 PM
No
 
no.
 
Oh, yet another
 
@LucasHenrique Then work maybe on your research and reading skills
maybe
 
@LucasHenrique if you read more than 5 words youd realise how nonsensical your question is
 
@LucasHenrique You used Python or D or Pascal?
 
7:59 PM
jesus fucking christ
i'm out of this shit
 
@Borgleader not in my experience; maybe mine aren't mainstream enough (boost) e.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/30801064/…
Average score 0.5 I'd say
 

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