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13:00
@sehe (the one above sounds like a bannable offense)
@Rerito Only if "the whole european community" was there to take offense (which would be arguably dumber than anything she has said to date)
@Abyx But for someone that doesn't want to bring up with the mods, you do have a lot of complaints to make.
@AndyProwl Nah. Plonkable. Yessir
@sehe Anyway she targeted directly any european individual there
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's because stirring up dirt is easier and has fewer consequences.
13:01
Here's the deal: don't bring it up here. I won't change my position. So either stop whining or start complaining where it matters.
too much talk about kitty
@Rerito Oh really. I was there and didn't feel addressed :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes why don't you write another post on meta, "on my behalf", like you did it before?
And if you do continue throwing dirt on me, I'll kick you too.
Reminder: Unless this room gets some kind of legally binding constitution, the owners are the rules. That's just how it is. The rest of us can talk to them and try to convince them to behave in a certain way, sure, and they're often nice enough to listen and respect the the rest of us, but ultimately, the owners are the only ones with the power to enforce rules. They are the rules. If they think you deserve to be kicked, you deserve to be kicked.
13:02
@sehe You learnt not to give fucks when none has to be given it seems :p
@Robot the fight was never a fight. You can stop starting to get angry :/ We'll live
@sehe It's continuous offensive nonsense, and I don't think chat owners should plonk users.
I'd remove kitty just to avoid future spawning of whether-or-not-kitty-is-bad arguments
@R.MartinhoFernandes @jalf I probably would struggle to recognise the squiggle yes, but I don't think it would take me that long to get used to it. ofc, not being able to just type them directly would be awkward.
@AndyProwl I didn't say who should plonk.
13:02
@jalf there are only SO rules, period. "Owners" own nothing. They become owners only out of connections with former owners what essentially makes them nobody.
@sehe Well, she was attacking Robot.
@AndyProwl He's capable of Jedi-plonking :)
Pretty much claiming he's in favor of raping women that annoy him
Mar 17 '14 at 10:57, by sehe
@DeadMG Good thinking. I don't usually do this, because there are only so many room owners. And if we plonk, we can't keep an eye on things
@AndyProwl He's capable of taking that up with a mod if he's interested (guessing: not)
> Subscriber represents, warrants and agrees that it will not contribute any Subscriber Content that [...] (d) is libelous, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harassing, hateful, offensive or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, [...]
[from the Terms of Service]
@Abyx Good point.
13:04
@AndyProwl And this way she fuels the sexism she's soooo actively fighting :'). The irony
@AndyProwl Why would it matter what she's claiming...
@Rerito She just needs attention
@Abyx no, there are SO rules and whichever rules the room owners choose to enforce on top of that
@sehe Because it's 99% nonsense, off-topic, offensive content
@Rerito She's just afraid that sexism is rampant. So scared that she'll defend on first suggestion. It's understandable, IYAM. And silly.
13:05
And by off-topic I don't mean "not related to C++" of course
(By that definition, this room is constantly off-topic)
@AndyProwl I don't see how that's relevant. Trolls would have to get a whole lot more annoying for me to start flagging for mod attention.
I have done that, in the past
the way you're looking at rules is too rigid
@sehe I appreciate your patience, but I also think Robot's right.
rules should only serve as starting point for judgment
(well Robot's right by definition)
13:07
kitty definitely has a deep effect on the lounge
@AndyProwl The Robot has more patience (hence, he's still Owning)
just because it's not covered by the rules, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be dealt with
ooh is there a drama
I was on the wrong tab
@sehe Yes, and he kicked her for being annoying, offensive, and trolling
@LightnessRacesinOrbit mildly
13:08
I should look at getting my pi fixed up again...
Anyways, since we went down to the SO rules, any offensive message shall be flagged. Invalidated flags shall be reported.
I wouldn't say it's a legacy thing or only found in the past. It's a portability thing.. The C/C++ standards are defined with some minimum degree of portability in mind, and were written in such a way as to only provide minimalistic definitions in relation to each other. A long is not the same size as an int, it's only guaranteed to be no smaller than an int, but if the platform/compiler requires it to be larger, it is free to do so. On some platforms, int may be 16 bits and long is 32 bits. On others, they may both be 32 bits. On still others, 32 and 64 bits, respectively, and so on. — C. M. 14 hours ago
2 hours ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
This is not fair! this room has no female owner, I feel discriminated against!
kicked for this? really?
that means "do not use the F word anymore"
Oh no, not for this :)
13:09
Is this comment trying to justify having two different types that tend to be 32-bit? :/
@LightnessRacesinOrbit don't make this worse
and do not write messages like this
10 mins ago, by Andy Prowl
10 mins ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
1st, I am not doing anything that's not allowed here, 2) according to your theory, any women should be allowed to be raped because she's a bitch?
Jan 25 at 0:38, by рытфолд
Oh Telshitty.
that's just the final drop
13:09
@AndyProwl I don't share this analysis. He kicked her to show that he could (she sollicited that by kicking up a fuss)
don't make what worse
This is what IMO parenting requires: When provoked, you have to follow-up on your promises, so as not to lose credibility
@Abyx fuck that
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No. Be less quick to judge.
13:10
You're asking a lightning bolt to cool the fuck down
I knew it. You can stop, Abyx
user1804599
I always pronounced "albeit" as if it were German.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Calm down; I'm not "judging" anyone.
user1804599
Similar to Arbeit.
Abyx will be back in a minute whining some more.
Well, I've read the transcript and I must say it's very boring. Oh well.
13:11
It is very boring
Though I see sehe is still wasting his time accusing me of this that and the other
lol
I'm happy you enjoy misinterpreting things. Cheers!
@sehe Perhaps a mix of both reasons.
@рытфолд that makes it sounds like it's a response to a question, not a qualifier
On a completely different matter, any Docker.io user here?
13:12
@Rerito not I. not yet anyway
ahahahaha
@AndyProwl Perhaps. My analysis is mine, yours is yours. Perhaps there's some other, deliciously irrational RealReason™
invalidated, obviously. Abyx, stop it.
I've got struggle understanding the Volume mechanics and can't find any litterature on the subject. So frustrating
@R.MartinhoFernandes I find this message offending. It's an "attack" towards me. Please take action as a room owner
42 mins ago, by sehe
@Abyx good luck with that
13:13
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I might have misused the expression. I meant it more in a "reaching conclusions" sense.
@sehe There's only one person who knows.
@R.MartinhoFernandes You must have skipped over the two question marks while reading my message.
Talk about reaching conclusions.
@AndyProwl Which is why I mixed in "deliciously irrational". He might not fully know :)
so how is everyone?
13:15
Me included? (<-- not)
I feel quite bad, thanks
I should be working. So, bye
how about you?
@sehe mmm. just realized that ligthning bolts cool down mighty quick. So, yeah. Bad analogy
@Abyx you are whining.
13:19
@sehe I kicked her for using "1st" and "2)" together in the same sentence.
9
@sehe lightning is also rather bright
Crimes against the English language.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes :S
pirate's worried
¬_¬ youtube has decided I want to get emails about all the shit people upload if I follow them...
inb4 how do I block people I followed
strange thing is, not of my subs are set for email notifications :S
13:31
@AndyProwl I didn't think he was really interested, no. Just the run-of-the-mill passive-aggressive condescension that we've come to expect :)
(when he sees this, he'll forget any humour and fume)
Meanwhile, in the land of horrific advice accepted blindly by the OP... stackoverflow.com/a/28190478/560648
@AndyProwl I'm okish
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now that I can get behind
Thoughts?
I wonder if AMD will come up with another smash hit on desktops
13:34
@Borgleader That sounds marvelous.
what was their best processor that blew intel out of the water at its time?
the first athlon?
Sophie didn't reply yet.
The first GHz processor?
I think they really didn't like the "My real name is ..." thingy.
> RabbitMQ clusters do not tolerate network partitions well.
Cool Erlang distributed system good job
13:37
I liked the Pentium 3.00000001
@Jefffrey Sophie?
inb4 jefff show pics
user1804599
> my uint8 $x = 0; $x -= 1; say $x
-1
user1804599
lol dat implementation bug
evening
13:46
@MarcoA. Former NVIDIA engineer? Cool.
@Nooble I used to work on this: nvidia.com/object/optix.html
And now you're in the Lounge. Quite the fall.
oh.. they told me it was a promotion
it is
you're in the same chatroom as me now
congratulations
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's an ascension if you've been living in a forest and living around trees chewing on leaves your whole life.
13:56
> So why is their an air of collusion about the same things you all said . If you need help, I'm available. I work a real job. This should be a long game and by the name we all should be new at this variant. Some could be lying. I know I haven't played this one before. I'll be checking my email in 7 hours, got to get some rest before work. I look forward to playing and will until the end. How many of you have left a game?
I think I broke him.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The woman that welcomed me to instaedu.com
Damn I remember an algorithm on lists (I believe), where two pointers are maintained. One is incremented by 1 step at a time and the other by 2 steps. But I can't remember the purpose of the alg. I just remember that this "two paces" stuff is the clever thing
@Rerito Mount host volumes, don't worry about volumes
rabbit and turtoise I suppose
to check if the list has loops
hare, not rabbit
@MarcoA. Awesome thanks for the reminder :)
14:00
@Rerito np, I can't usually remember "Floyd's cycle-finding algorithm".. I remember the image with the turtle and the hare :P
@Nooble giggle
Why is your entire answer written as if it were a block of code? — Lightness Races in Orbit 14 secs ago
every time I write on SO now it feels like I'm on a Meta thread (cos of the font). It's quite disturbing
I like going back to my board with game ideas and seeing my shopping list there
perfect reminder of how laziness makes you more efficient
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I also don't like this new design, but I'm not a webmaster and it might have advantages over the old one. Plus, it's subjective
14:04
@R.MartinhoFernandes Broke who?
@MarcoA. I am a webmaster and it doesn't and it's not
@R.MartinhoFernandes wut
@Puppy Some dude I'm playing Diplomacy with/against. After spending several rounds of back and forth negotiating cooperation, I told him that pretty much everyone had offered me alliance against him, and I was taking one of those offers. Then he flipped out and went ranting in public chat.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit eventually SO is going to look like these: answers.unity3d.com or answers.unrealengine.com
It's the second game in a row I play where someone flips out like that :/
14:08
at least you told him
Depending on the budget of the website: well-paid stackoverflow.com, mildly-paid answers.unity3d.com, poorly-paid answers.unrealengine.com
@R.MartinhoFernandes I kinda didn't get that rant
@BartekBanachewicz It's very incoherent.
He lost it. ("it", not the game)
I don't get what makes people go nuts like that over a game.
Last time the other guy was in a reasonably good position and all of a sudden just left saying he couldn't deal with all the scheming and betrayal and left for good and never logged in again.
@MarcoA. That's ironic, seeing as they're using the Stack Exchange v1 software to power those sites
@LightnessRacesinOrbit uh, they really don't look the same. I suppose everyone has a different concept of "beauty"
14:15
@MarcoA. What don't look the same?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was talking about the design and the style of the sites
@MarcoA. Architecturally they are the same and graphically they look pretty much the same, too.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I really don't like the latter style btw
@R.MartinhoFernandes What was he expecting from Diplomacy if not scheming and betrayal?
from memory that game does not allow shared victory
14:24
@Puppy Dunno. I guess he wasn't expecting to find it so stressful. That one seemed more upset about being the betrayer than about being betrayed, so it wasn't a sore loser reaction.
I couldn't play that game
@Puppy You can draw but you share it with everyone still left (2-way draws are very unusual because they can only happen with a perfect 50-50 split) Draws are seen as failure-to-win, not failure-to-lose by a significant part of the community, so people usually play for wins.
huh, now that is surprising
Just got a package from SO
I thought I'd fallen off their "top users who get free stuff" list a while ago
what's the criterion? >100k?
FYI the STL tag is for Standard Template Library not for the .stl file formatBorgleader 3 mins ago
OP put the tag back in /facepalm
14:30
@jalf Didn't you get an e-mail several months back?
ALSO WHERE'S MINE
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but that was ages ago and I'd forgotten all about it :D
you kicked kitty, robot
no swag for you
bad robot, bad
I want swag too :(
I got an NVIDIA mug :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes mehehehe
brb making coffee in my free SO mug
lol, our shipment with office supplies included cookies
14:32
@MarcoA. I got a Gameloft tshirt that was given to me in the wrong size
lol
@MarcoA. I have an Intel mug
@AlexM. sounds cool!
which is arguably less cool in the GPU dept
at least the Gameloft notebook was the right size
I have lots of clothing.
14:32
I don't use it because pen & paper (no need)
@AlexM. what about the condoms
but I keep it there
@BartekBanachewicz and I also have a Microsoft mug (yep, I've played around a lot with these companies)
time to unplonk a couple of people. probably going to regret it
I miss the Intel and the Google one, let me talk to a recruiter... "why do you want to work for us?" "MUGS, WHY ELSE?"
14:33
@BartekBanachewicz they don't have that big on the size chart
@MarcoA. you worked at NVidia?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit whom?
@AndyProwl no idea. They keep expanding it. I think the first year it was "on page 1 of top users", but they've relaxed it every year. I can't remember what the requirement was when they sent out the survey email some months ago
I wonder if I'll ever go through the process of reproduction
see what you did to me bartek now
@BartekBanachewicz it's a secret!
@BartekBanachewicz yes, and had an on-site interview at Microsoft. Didn't get the job though.
14:35
I'm thinking about the future of my family again
@MarcoA. how was it?
@BartekBanachewicz which one?
NVidia
fuck MS (sans their R&D division)
maybe I'll find a desperate widow at 30
it's funny because I'm the only child in this part of the family so if I don't make kids that's it
14:36
@BartekBanachewicz not bad really, I was in the ARC Lab (nvidia-arc.com/index.php). Lots of smart professional graphic guys in there. I also made a few good friends
Sep 19 '14 at 10:39, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Huh, I was expecting an email titled "Stack Overflow — You're killing it" to be a diatribe from an angry user or a mod. But no - free swagger for belated 100k! Yay!
@MarcoA. nice
also how the hell do you get 100k rep
Jan 15 at 10:57, by Lightness Races in Orbit
the friendly "we are sending you stuff!" came in SEPTEMBER
Jan 15 at 10:57, by Lightness Races in Orbit
not to mention it was a "congrats on reaching 100k" that itself was already eight or so months late
I'm trying to get 3k now on gd.se
14:37
I see you're not in the OGL tag here though
I'm at 2961
@AlexM. GD.se is a noobswamp
and it's so hard
@AlexM. Step 1: collect rep on SO, not other SE sites :p
@BartekBanachewicz only downside was that I'm afraid of heights but they put me near the window on the last floor
14:37
Step 2: be there since the early days
@AlexM. that's what she said
@MarcoA. couldn't you cover it or something
Jan 16 at 11:57, by Lightness Races in Orbit
user image
Jan 16 at 11:58, by Lightness Races in Orbit
it can't be a co-incidence that this arrived (well, the delivery was first attempted) not 24 hours after I chased it up
:)
I want the cup :(
Is it just shirt, mug, and sticker?
@BartekBanachewicz my job involved ray tracing, they wouldn't have been happy if I blocked the rays
14:38
I still have spare stickers.
@jalf SO is the most difficult
All my stickers are spare. I have no idea what to do with them.
I dunno how to answer difficult questions
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes
and easy questions just get quickshot answers in < 10secs
14:38
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Stick them to things.
:P
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ahhhhh
@R.MartinhoFernandes DO WANT
@BartekBanachewicz I'll bring mine to the Unconference
I put one on my laptop and one on my screen stand.
14:39
lol stickers on laptops
hm that reminds me I have to check with Thomas whether I can camp there
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have a Starbucks sticker on my laptop
don't call me Thomas I am T'Pol
stickers on laptops are ugly :(
@AlexM. It's also where most upvotes happen :p
14:40
What's the betting that @EtiennedeMartel has a MLP sticker on his laptop
anyway, my only laptop is a work laptop and I ain't stickering that shit up
I have some stickers on my desktop's old case
my only active laptop*
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep, looks like it
mainly stickers that came with my peripherals
my desktop case is pretty and black and doesn't need ruining with white stickers
14:40
@AlexM. My laptop is proudly ugly.
so there's a steelseries and a roccat sticker
So is mine
and yeah, I don't get what's so great about stickers
@AlexM. Ah, I don't do that.
and the mandatory intel inside sticker
14:41
and it has a shitty sticker on it
I do always put the little Windows and Intel stickers on though
@jalf Not gonna throw them away!
actually no just Intel
@LightnessRacesinOrbit a chick in my class once came to me and said
@R.MartinhoFernandes Quick, send one to Vlad while he's still suspended
14:41
the worst was the year they sent out that shitty game though. Anyone else got that?
"hey here's a sticker about a cause I care about, do you want to stick it on your laptop?"
I have a resistor color code sticker on my desk.
That's actually useful though
Never use it.
Do you install a lot of resistors?
14:42
I can read it by heart now.
@AlexM. Did you?
of course not
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is Vlad suspended? That might explain why today I saw a "Vlad from Moscow" rep 1 user
@MarcoA. Yes and yes
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what was the reason for the suspension?
14:42
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have some half-built gadgets on my desk. I haven't worked on them much lately, but I did some two months ago.
Hi I have a perhaps stupid question, in this code snippet I'm struggle to run,
http://codepaste.net/bump99
it seems that `std::find_if` is trying to access a member function on the `std::end()` of the container thus resulting in a segmentation violation
Jan 12 at 14:46, by Xeo
> This account is temporarily suspended for voting irregularities. The suspension period ends on Feb 11 at 14:43. - Vlad from Moscow
@MarcoA. Admitting to Bartek that he was revenge downvoting. It was pretty borderline, but his overall behaviour convinced the mods to send him for a cool-down.
I'm not very expert so if you could look at what I'm doing wrong would be great!
14:43
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see
@R.MartinhoFernandes You are attempting procreation
@LightnessRacesinOrbit got it. Thanks
I built a sidereal drive and now I'm building a dice fairness tester.
@drkg4b There is no std::find_if in that code.
Does anyone here play or have played Unturned?
That reminds me, I still need to get a camera for that.
14:44
sorry cout_if
@drkg4b Doesn't exist.
cunt_if
*count_if
@Nooble nope, too deep in Fallout NV
@drkg4b So right off the bat you've made two typos that entirely change the meaning of your question.
@drkg4b Do you think it might be worth getting into the habit of precision, accuracy and diligence before you consider attempting to write computer programs?
14:46
@drkg4b How about an actual testcase?
I'm sorry... what? — Borgleader 2 mins ago
Am I still asleep or?
@Griwes you mean adding a if(!el.end())?
@drkg4b I mean creating an actual testcase.
So if anyone wants to pull of a heist in a farm with me in Unturned, tell me. I know a server where there are at least 7 blokes camping out on a farmhouse. It's really easy too, we just drive in there, shoot them, loot them, and drive out. No big deal.
14:49
@drkg4b He means posting a complete program that we can run in order to witness the problem. There could be all sorts of stuff outside of the code you've shown us, causing your problem. Are we to simply guess what it is?
> (In interview)
lol
@drkg4b One of the very first stages of your debugging process should be to create a minimal testcase. This is not for us. It's not for posting on Stack Overflow. It's so that it is easier for you to debug the problem over the next few days! Then, if still stuck (which is unlikely), then the testcase comes to us so we can continue your work.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I cannot create a testcase because the code is part of a bigger infrastructure and besides that needs big files containing data to run
@drkg4b can't you isolate the part that causes the problem and the minimal amount of data that causes the crash? That can't be done by SO users, it should be done by you
@drkg4b That's exactly why you should create a testcase.
14:53
If you can't do it, then you're shit out of luck and completely on your own, goooooooooooooooooooood luuuuuuuuuuuck
If you cannot isolate it when you have access to all of it, what do you expect us to do without any of it.
@drkg4b then it's badly designed
Interviewer asked this in interview... He gave 5 mins.. — user3403111 4 mins ago
lol
Guess that means time's up! — Alex M. just now
#asshole
@drkg4b Getting away from that dependency is the entire point of making a testcase, bruh. You absolutely can do so.
I don't think they're posting it from the interview
Also lol interviews
user1804599
14:55
> my uint32 $x = 2**32-1; $x += 1; say $x;
4294967296
user1804599
I've never been this confused before!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I really wish this sort of wisdom didn't have to be repeated every 30 minutes on SO :(
heh
I think I'll start playing AP Corki
I guess there's just no getting around the fact that some people lack imagination and therefore cannot "put themselves in our shoes" to any useful degree
@R.MartinhoFernandes Magic
14:57
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah I can try to write something that emulates the infrastructure but I guess would take a very long time
@drkg4b That's what you're employed to do.
@drkg4b That's literally your job.
how do people get hired into dev jobs not knowing this -.- sigh
speaking of...
Also, try to design your code so that it can be easily isolated
I'm a particle physicist
not a developer
Did you whip out your phone in an interview and ask us to answer your interview question for you? Seriously? Y'know, even ignoring that, the fact that you don't even know which language is being asked for indicates that you are not going to get this job. I'd just walk out and get a beer somewhere for the rest of the day, if I were you. — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
@drkg4b Then get your developers to look at it.
14:58
Who needs loose coupling when you can have singletons and shit!
@drkg4b the advice still applies
I think Cat is right
Why is a particle physicist debugging C++ lol
the guy is out of the interview
and just posted this out of frustration
@AlexM. son just don't
14:58
we use that to access data and make plots
user1804599
@drkg4b I'm a particle developer
user1804599
not a physicist
btw this sort of bullshit interview question is why I am afraid of interviews
@рытфолд A particular developer you mean

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