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00:00
I noticed. I was completely confuzzled at the "Would you like to be added to the invite list? [Y/n]" (the command was "sign up", not "request invitation")
It's closed alpha atm
@CatPlusPlus Certainly not enough, but I don't care that much :P ...
I got 4 invites if you want one
The queue is rather large
I signed up few months ago
@AlexM. The good thing is you can always pimp it as you like. I rarely just leave them as they are, just coming out the freezer :-D ...
you can do the same with fresh pizza, order a margherita
00:03
@sehe Gimme an email if you'd like an invite to this thing, cause I'm not sure if I have it anywhere
@AlexM. Still more expensive :P ...
I just can't see the point in frozen pizzas :\
they're like, a little bit cheaper than fresh pizza delivered
and a little bit more expensive than making your own pizza
you could say they save you effort
but really if you can't spare the extra $5 to get one delivered
should you really be eating pizzas?
you could say the obvious
stock up on beans!
@AlexM. "I just can't see the point in frozen pizzas :\" What do you think the order service has at hand actually?
00:05
@AlexM. cannot be bettered
@πάνταῥεῖ lol now you're going to say restaurant pizza is store bought
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@CatPlusPlus which one is on file for github loungecpp org?
I love stocking up on beans
they keep forever
and they're sort of a guarantee that even if you're left without money, you'll have food for a while
@AlexM. Most of the ordering services I know, don't make fresh pizza. That's rare. The majority uses deep frozen convenience stuff. If you have one that delivers real fresh pizza, feel lucky and enjoy :) ...
00:08
@πάνταῥεῖ restaurants deliver pizzas m8
what's an "ordering service"?
I haven't seen a non-restaurant deliver pizzas
get to a restaurant's website and see if they deliver
@JohanLarsson they had a kid cut these out with scissors, right i.imgur.com/Ee493MX.png
4 mins ago, by sehe
@AlexM. cannot be bettered
looks like a match
@AlexM. E.g. "Call-A-Pizza" is an ordering service. We also have restaurants here doing deli, but I doubt that everything is really made fresh.
@sehe GH doesn't give me access to emails
@πάνταῥεῖ Seriously? Around here, even Dominos makes fresh pizza when you order it (and I'm not sure I'd consider it even edible, not to mention good).
00:11
no wonder sehe is so interested in the invite - it's an automated stalking software (so it claimed)!
I have your key with zfs-fuse@ on it, that still valid?
@sehe wat, did I say something wrong :(
@πάνταῥεῖ ok
@πάνταῥεῖ that's why you become a well-informed customer and have favorite restaurants
you go to restaurants to see how their pizzas are made (tip: some restaurants have wood ovens and you can see the chefs using them from your table, if you want extra confirmation) and if they're any good
@AlexM. "and have favorite restaurants" I have mine, but those don't have a delivery service. I have to get there.
00:14
@AlexM. it's just amusing to see you jump to the defense of the fast food industry (as if that's needed). Also, I wonder what they do to sell you the idea that it's really better to have a pizza delivered then fresh from your own oven (pre-enjoy the smell etc, not having the moist cardboard smell on it, not having it bumped a dozen time by an underpaid scooter driver etc.)
I don't think they need to sell me the idea
Been a while since I posted a question.
it's pretty clear if you compare the taste
I buy frozen pizza sometimes because 1) I can have it whenever I feel like, just heat it up in a oven 2) I don't have to get dressed & even when it's delivered I have to physicall walking to the gate for a stranger if I want to get my pizza, that 20 metre is too much effort, especially when I am hungry 3) minimum wage here is high & labour is expensive, so you are looking at $8-$10 for every delivery
@AlexM. Margherita best pizza.
00:15
@AlexM. (a) I don't become a well informed customer because if I'm going to spend that much I'm not having pizza FCOL. (b) my only favourite restaurants don't deliver
That reminds me I miss the old office surroundings.
@CatPlusPlus That key works. Not sure about the mail address :)
@sehe I follow (b), that was my point. (They have seemingly good reasons)
if b) was your point, you could have ended the discussion right at the start tbh
instead of trying to defend frozen pizza until you had to bring up the favorite restaurant bits
hth
@AlexM. is that to me?
00:18
no, it was for @πάνταῥεῖ
Good :)
@AlexM. That would be a veeeery loong subway ride for you to get there :)
I never had Dr Oetker pizza
maybe it's some amazing frozen pizza
who knows
I vary it (Oetker/Wagner). It's okay for sometimes. I just don't care for pizza deliveries. At all. It's just never good enough for the price.
In the way that all frozen pizzas are amazing
00:19
I've had the random stuff they sell in supermarkets like Billa, Lidl (Plus) and Penny Market
and were horrible
@AlexM. Add ketchup to it or whatever other crimes you commit.
@AlexM. Oh. I can only imagine. If it's anything like Aldi (same market segment) it's horrible. You could just as well eat the cardboard boxes instead
Jan 16 at 17:21, by Alex M.
I'm not putting ketchup on it anymore okay
@R.MartinhoFernandes "whatever other crimes you commit" LOL
I know those from Aldi because the Aldi is at the corner :/
00:20
@sehe Well when you find a working one let me know :p
@CatPlusPlus Have you not tried? I'm not even sure what you have to/want to do and what implications this has. Lemme check
why does php need to be such a pain in the ass :/
@sehe Most of the Aldi products are no different (literally) from the brand products.
Well if you weren't sure. I've sent it now
@Gizmo Because it's PHPITA :P
00:22
@πάνταῥεῖ Well. Maybe it's just the brand that they chose to carry then. The pizza is deffo dry and way too salt. "Too salt" is my main complaint with the foodstuffs at Aldi anyways
@CatPlusPlus :)
You can use any email later for the account, this is just a place to get the invitation to
@πάνταῥεῖ probably, eh you know it's impossible to draw a simple outline around a text? And every image library you find is incompatible with 5.6
Great.
@CatPlusPlus Received. Ironically unsigned HTML mail
And why would I want to spend $20 on a delivered pizza here when I can buy a kg fresh prawn for the same price here?
There goes my design, up in ashes.
00:23
@πάνταῥεῖ Dunno about frozen pizza (never tried it, actually), but that's not generally true.
@StackedCrooked Dat dark theme <3 I should give it a go again.
@chmod711telkitty Because prawns suck?
At the time I was silly and tried to replace the command line by checkboxes and dropdowns
@Gizmo I've been messing a bit with Joomla a while ago. PHP sucks!
@CatPlusPlus Good. I was fretting the consequences of lighthearted choices :_)
00:24
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like seafood & fresh veges/fruits, they are healthy
@πάνταῥεῖ +infinity
Healthy food can still suck. Like prawns.
Also, lol
look at my cool live signature design, now because of PHP it will look bad :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes because dough is so tasty?
@Gizmo (a) that's not true (b) since it's PHP, just use a properly styled div that resizes to the contents :)
00:25
ofcourse it will look better when done programatically
I suck at photoshop alignment XD
@R.MartinhoFernandes I once caught a Hepatitis A, most probably from "healthy" seafood :(
@sehe I wish I could use <div>'s in images!
:)
@πάνταῥεῖ BUT IT'S NATURAL AND WHATEVER. It must be healthy. All natural things are healthy. Like most poisons.
@Gizmo so why are you complaining about PHP. Since when is that a language feature (so that it could be declared missing by you)?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Listeria is natural
Nah it's just, all the image editing libraries or keep spitting out bad images or keep spitting out errors because they are 4 years old and no-one bothered to update them
00:27
I like most unhealthy food, but only if I have them occasionally
@Gizmo IRTA "4 year olds"
@chmod711telkitty finally a point where we can agree.
@chmod711telkitty Because pizza is a perfectly balanced meal--cheese for protein and calcium, vegetables for vitamins, meat for protein, and bread for starch. It's basically the perfect health food!
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's why I mostly tend overdoing drugs. They're natural, so what bad things should happen at all?
Garlic and cheese are the two main food groups.
Though I'm not a expert at php.. It's probably partially my fault, but it's a fact that getting started with image editing via php is very difficult for beginners :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes "garlic and cheese" Stink and fart a lot :-D ...
It would probably take me 1 minute in C#, 10 minutes in C++.. and infinity minutes in PHP xD
@JerryCoffin too much carbohydrate ... even for crispy ones
@πάνταῥεῖ The Organic Fallacy.
@chmod711telkitty You obviously aren't adding enough topping(s).
> You've successfully verified your email address, against all odds.
@CatPlusPlus lol. But this doesn't seem right i.imgur.com/3JQD1AC.png. Did they just use the network graph info from your invite to pretend to know too much about me?
00:32
Nah I don't think so
@Gizmo image editing != php. Arguably it's exactly as hard in other languages
It looks like they're just giving random results
@JerryCoffin I ordered pizza before with 2x toppings before, they looked exactly the same as normal ones
You can't pass arrays to a function in Perl. What an awesome language. @рытфолд
They were able to fuck up even passing arguments to functions.
@CatPlusPlus Why on earth would they do that. And then misrepresent it as "possibly of random interest"? Yeap. Does not make sense
00:34
Alpha vOv
@chmod711telkitty You've been scammed. Gratz.
I was thinking the same :'(
@CatPlusPlus I say: MarketingOverflow
@sehe well when I download a Imaging Library made for C++, the chance of it working is high, in PHP, my luck is probably at the negative side
00:35
@Jefffrey You're supposed to use references.
Disclaimer: I don't know Perl. I just know that that's what all Perl programmers say when someone points out some array stupids.
@Gizmo So you know what to do
@sehe my web host doesn't allow CGI :(
@chmod711telkitty It's because you're in Australia, so when you asked for double toppings, they actually made the crust twice as thick.
or GCI
or whatever it's called
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. This is the PointOfPain, where I just refused to learn a language that made crucial mechanisms so ugly and ... ugly
00:37
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, lemme try
Be glad you didn't use it before references existed.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wish!
He used it, there's nothing to be glad about
Well, "used" probably isn't the right word. Invented new ways of cussing at, and finally gave up and wrote the code in C++ even though it seemed like something that should fall squarely in the domain for which Perl is best suited.
00:38
@R.MartinhoFernandes manual manipulation of type glob entries?
@sehe Wow cool!
I skipped that. Yes. Perl5 was my first. I thought I liked it.
No hierarchical structures without unbelievably arcane magic in Perl before version... 5?
@Gizmo Or NaCl
00:39
@Jefffrey Do you know about ((1, 2), 3) == (1, (2, 3)), btw?
@R.MartinhoFernandes false
uhuh
or true ?XD
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
I think both evaluate to 3, right?
00:40
I used it somewhere to :)
@Gizmo yes, that's a possibility of which the relative probability is generally deemed higher than it's inverse
Wait wat.
Both are equal to (1, 2, 3) right?
s/right/eeek/
@Jefffrey that too, though the execution order is different for the second one (probably)
00:41
I personally think that's the most ridiculous "feature" in any mainstream language.
And the answer is, as always, use references.
Meh it's up to the compiler anyway what will happen first as long as it doesn't change the outcome
@CatPlusPlus another brilliant line of text:
> This operation requires temporary local access to your secret
key and then throws it away
Don't worry! We're only going to modify your keyring. We know stuff!
I mean, I can see what they're saying and it's actually awesome that they do this - interactively - but the "we throw it away" is funny
Shog's gone off the fucking rails
You'll never have to worry about it again
I have half a mind to email SE about it
00:45
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You wouldn't have anything to do with it right
Rude, @Lightness? You're posting arguments that have no bearing on reality (fake comments that you didn't write) and misrepresent how this actually affects you (little to not at all). If you're so interested in this, do some analysis yourself & write up your own answer. But blatant lies aren't furthering this discussion, and getting all indignant about it when you're called on it is beneath you. — Shog9 ♦ 59 mins ago
not okay
for the record, I honestly have no idea what he's talking about w.r.t. "fake comments" and "blatant lies". The only thing I can think of is that he saw my test comments (while trying to write that userscript) and now doesn't accept my explanation that a series of 20 comments that say "test" were test comments. I think he just didn't like that I called him out on status-completing something that was literally status-declined in reality
and at that I shall leave it and go stew somewhere else :)
half expecting him to nerdrageban me though :(
What the hell is this answer
1
A: Design pattern? How to do "Abstract generator creating abstract instance"

umlcat is this a good design? Yes, it is a good design, is not bad, but, some improvement can be done. I prefer to use "class" instead of "struct". Before: struct cConfigTemplate_WritingTool { int length_range[2]; string possible_shapes = {"circle", "octagon"}; }; After: public class cConf...

I mean. "umlcat"? More like a sick lolcat. I hope it's either a joke or a sockpuppet
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Starting to bother with mods (especially very high rep, or even employed ones), might end up fighting windmills. May just be not worth it and move on. Heads up!
yeah like I said I'm going to have to force myself to ignore that conversation now
still, it's not nice. if anyone else were writing comments like that they'd be in trouble.
@sehe lol @ "When using "class", you need to add the "public" keyword."
the guy is a Java programmer
00:49
@sehe Keeping the "uml" part of the user name in mind, I'd guess that he's entirely serious.
@milleniumbug in java that's not the case. The code is patently not C++ though, interestingly the answerer doesn't seem to have picked that up and just copied the "errors" from the OP's code
@JerryCoffin Yeah. That's my fear.
Perhaps the "code" is raw UML!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Shog9 isn't necessarily a nice person, but a mostly calm, cool and conscious moderator as chosen from the ones I met.
@milleniumbug /* replaceable */ and /* replaced */ anti-annotations
@sehe Oo 'f' not 'd', I was getting worried ...
What version of GCC introduced u8 string literals?
00:52
@Rapptz Wut? u8
@πάνταῥεῖ Of the ones I've met, I'd have to agree--but he's the only one I've met unless you count @Mysticial, who wasn't when I met him, and even now only is on an SE site I don't frequent (at least I seem to recall that he's a mod on the Amime.SE site).
u8"hello".
@JerryCoffin I'm not mod on Anime.SE.
@Rapptz Is this even standard defined?
Yes.
C++11.
00:53
@JerryCoffin never met KonradRudolph then?
There's also u"hello" and U"hello" for UTF-16 and UTF-32 respectively.
@Mysticial Hmm...I was thinking you were. You do participate quite a bit there don't you? Or is my memory even worse than usual today?
@sehe Not in person, no.
@JerryCoffin Not seeing it :/
@JerryCoffin Mostly in chat. I haven't posted on the site itself in a while.
4.5 has it, but I don’t know if I’m looking at the feature table for the 4.5.0 release or if it was eventually backported to it.
Anyone has a progress update regarding the "modules" that where proposed in 14?
> Unicode strings (previously supported only with options such as -std=gnu11, now supported with -std=c11), and the predefined macros __STDC_UTF_16__ and __STDC_UTF_32__.
@Rapptz Under the C section.
@DavidKron things aren't proposed in a version AFAICT
00:56
@sehe Ah my bad then
Think you get my point
@Mysticial I guess that's not really a surprise.
Thanks guys
@DavidKron Limbo. It's not something expectable anytime soon (I'd say 50% of the community seems to think it's not gonna work out)
@sehe I've met KonradRudolph, decently close hammering some inapropriate stuff. I think he's around along the c++ tags. Shog9 isn't (at least not prominently), but you can meet him a lot at Meta SO.
00:58
@Rapptz I won’t lie, the request felt a bit WTF.
Like getting notified by edits
@JerryCoffin The question quality there isn't great either. It's mostly overcrowded with "experts" who have no questions to ask.
@LucDanton When I used it in my old mingw32 for GCC 4.7.1 it didn't work but I tried it just now and it did.
Not sure why it didn't work previously.
@DavidKron You usually will get notified by edits?
@Rapptz Wrong phase of the moon.
00:59
Out of cheese error.
lol

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