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6:02 PM
more progress..
 
Could someone tell if this was a good idea? github.com/Jermim/3D/blob/master/util/file.cpp
 
Writing C++? no
never a good idea
 
huh ?
 
Beh I ate stuff I bought yesterday and I'm still kinda feeling hungry
 
user1804599
6:09 PM
Better solve world hunger, then.
 
world hunger solution: give people food, problem solved
 
user1804599
baka
 
user1804599
you have to give them food all the time if you go that way
 
user1804599
you have to teach them not to poop in their only water source
 
user1804599
and how to farm
 
6:21 PM
@Bilal Well, if nothing else, the line +"\n" is silly. Make that contents.append(line); contents.append('\n'); to avoid temporary allocation and copying.
 
user1804599
haha
 
That matters a lot yes
 
@VáclavZeman thanks
 
user1804599
You can also just write concise readable code.
 
user784668
@rightfold In C++? lol
 
user1804599
6:22 PM
You're writing to a goddamn file.
 
user784668
@rightfold I'm truly sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not.
 
user1804599
I am not disappointed.
 
user784668
NSA says you are.
 
concerning std::runtime_error(), i always need to do std::cerr << error before throwing the exception to see the error message, i think there is a better way to do this, ideas?
 
user1804599
Fuck the NSA.
 
6:25 PM
@rightfold You are flagged now. You will never get a green card to work in the US of A.
 
user784668
Fuck 'murica.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
yumyumyum
 
No meat
 
user1804599
There is meat, silly.
 
6:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus What, that looks like chicken on curry.
 
user1804599
It's covered in the yellow sauce.
 
lol
Also I'm definitely hungry, so woop there goes saving money, time for pizza
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus always time for pizza
except I'm somehow not hungry anymore
too many sweets, ugh
 
user1804599
dammit
 
user1804599
/me figures out new ways to make Xeo hungry
 
Xeo
6:34 PM
hahaha /cc @Mysticial @ScarletAmaranth @AlexM. @StackedCrooked
 
lol
 
What great timing. I had just posted my answer. Can't not +1 now I suppose :) — sehe 29 secs ago
 
who's shinji matou? :D
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Watch the first UBW episode.
 
@Xeo TweetOverflow
@Xeo woof woof
 
6:37 PM
45 minuteees
 
Xeo
@sehe Typo due to habit, or on purpose?
 
Which one?
 
Xeo
The "Tweet" part
 
It's not misspelled?
Discussing with a developer about their language: "it's easy, you just have to remember that...". Not interested in your coping mechanism.
Ouch, C++ community. Take that to heart
 
Xeo
6:40 PM
@sehe Well, failed your reading comprehension then.
8 mins ago, by Xeo
too many sweets, ugh
Unless that was non-sequitur on purpose.
 
@Xeo Not at all! I just failed reading. The comprehension was fine
@Xeo It wasn't :(
 
user1804599
@sehe cgroupie
 
you keep saying that. Reminds you of krupukgirl, doesn't it?
 
user1804599
No, not at all.
 
user1804599
But krupuk is delicious.
 
user1804599
6:45 PM
OP, you faggot, y u no accept answer.
 
user1804599
Oh wow, a roguelike made by a 94-year-old.
 
Pubby you butte come back to Lounge
 
Xeo
what, did he leave or something?
oh, Pubby
with b
nvm
 
stupid question: is the rep gained during the "reputation count frozen job" period stored and not lost for tags, right? I'm referring to this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/226681/…
 
6:54 PM
@sehe I was just reflecting on how it’s ridiculous how if I drop C++ for any amount of time, when I go back I run into the same pitfalls over and over again.
 
That suggests you haven't had enough positive reinforcement when you learned to avoid the pitfalls. Make those same mistakes a few more times, and soon you'll start to really remember.
 
‘A few’? You’re funny.
 
lol
@Xeo You really should eat something!
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. Don't ask questions that are stupid.
 
@LucDanton I think in large part that is because you love the more involved TMP so much? I mainly learn to stay away from edges (which are manifold). This still casts a question-mark on the language, but it makes it easier to come back and not fall into the same traps (unless you forget what to steer clear from, of course).
 
6:57 PM
@rightfold that's what my professor always told me. He eventually gave up after a few years
 
Simple point: to me it's easier to remember what to stay away from than to remember why that is, exactly.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus meh
too late
 
@LucDanton I think Ben was being facetious. "Not enough reinforcement" might be: it didn't kill you quickly enough
 
user1804599
Ik ben Ben.
 
6:58 PM
@sehe No, and yes. It’s arguably all edges: whichever bit I’m not focusing on, is the one I’m getting rusty at.
 
Yup. Such is the way of C++
 
user1804599
I am filled with joy.
 
@sehe There is an interesting experiment with monkeys. Put ten of them into one room. Also: A table with a banana on it. Once one of the apes tries to get the banana every one of them gets splattered with ice cold water. Substitute one of the monkeys. The new one will try to get the banana, but gets beaten up by the others before he can do so - they don't want to get splattered.
He sees what the others are doing and will also beat up anyone who tries to get the banana. Substitute everyone of the ten apes; every remaining monkey knows that he shall not touch the banana, but nobody knows why.
 
PIZZA
44CM OF
 
Woah that's quite large
 
Oh hey thanks for reminding me to turn off dumb GH issues and crap
 
@Loopunroller I remember this with different "punishment". (I think it's one of @sbi's favourites).
@Loopunroller The BIG mismatch here is that it's not others telling me to stay away, it's me telling me. After experimenting a lot.
 
Fack, I remember that I was tripped by something that really irked me (because I had seen it before many times), but not what that was.
 
@sehe I know the mismatch, i just posted it because it was slightly related :o)
 
@Loopunroller So I do remember why, I just don't remember all the specific details and habits to keep in mind in order to survive (e.g. with TMP and reference vs. value type deductions; I'll always check when I do need to dive in deep)
@Loopunroller ok
 
7:05 PM
It annoys me that I’m stuck with the habits and rules of thumbs, but not necessarily their rationales.
 
user1804599
7:17 PM
@sehe R.I.P. sehe
 
Will do
 
Xeo
> [21:20:33] <%Xeo> !decide foodz, no foodz
[21:20:37] <+Horo> T'is a good choice: foodz
[21:20:41] <%Xeo> !8ball foodz?
[21:20:45] <+Horo> My sources say no
Our bot can't seem to decide if foodz or no foodz :<
 
user1804599
Who is "our?"
 
Xeo
our.
 
does hour bot happen to be a hot wolf chick?
no furry
 
Xeo
7:29 PM
Yes
We also got an apathic timetraveler Yuki (stats bot) and a sports chick Wanko (our radio bot)
 
This is totally not about C++ at all: youtube.com/…
 
oh ye; it's a horrible talk really :D
 
Any recommendations for USB DVB-T tuner that works with Ubuntu?
 
@VáclavZeman he actually admitted to not being too partial towards C++ IIRC; (and is a fan of... C99 I reckon)
 
@ScarletAmaranth He has some points but the talk is really not C++ related at all.
 
7:36 PM
@VáclavZeman I like his shirt tho
@VáclavZeman I was looking for some more advanced talks but haven't seen any as of yet; (seen... 5 I think so far)
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, I like his shirt as well.
 
Hi
 
user1804599
Data-oriented design is nice for games.
 
@VáclavZeman So he's one of the people writing return (foo);? My interest in watching that talk was 0, now it's negative.
 
user1804599
(Not performance-wise I don't give a shit about performance.)
 
7:39 PM
TBH, he looks physically a little bit like I do. Especially his hair balding pattern.
 
ohoho; I didn't know hair balding can be categorized into "patterns"
 
lol
It can!
 
In class we're learning about threading and I always it screwed up at this part. When is it a good idea to use threads and is it ever 100% necessary to use them?
 
what are the different kinds you have in mind?
 
It seems like my brain has no problem seeing the linear solution to a problem.
 
user1804599
7:40 PM
I want to make video games.
 
user1804599
Fuck web development.
 
@rightfold didn't you use to hate game dev?
 
user1804599
Way less than web development.
 
user1804599
Especially if boring CRUD shit.
 
Both are horrible.
 
7:45 PM
There's something else other than web dev and game dev?
I didn't know.
 
user1804599
Compiler dev.
 
user1804599
Oh wait compilers are written in JS these days.
 
I feel like compiler dev is even worse than web dev.
What's non terrible to work with?
 
user1804599
Kyrostat.
 
it's still alive? :D
 
8:03 PM
@VáclavZeman ouch that is quite a painful topic. I got an Ansysee E30 Combo Plus a few years back. It was slated for Linux support. Turned out I was one of the "happy" customers to get the first with the new chipset. I don't think it ever got supported :(
@VáclavZeman Castro style?
@rightfold not all of them
 
@sehe Well, I have just ordered "ASUS My Cinema-U3100MINI Plus V2". It seems supported.
 
user1804599
@sehe with Emscripten, all of them!
 
Famous last words. I'll help hope
> are written in JS
How about "No."
 
user1804599
Pope.
 
24
Q: What is an `int foo::*bar::*`?

zneakA cool thing with C++ is that it lets you create variables of pointer-to-member types. The most common use case seems to be to get a pointer to a method: struct foo { int x() { return 5; } }; int foo::(*ptr)() = &foo::x; foo myFoo; cout << (myFoo.*ptr)() << '\n'; // prints "5" However, me...

Gosh
 
user1804599
8:08 PM
@sehe Awesome.
 
Well, the tuner is deemed to be supported: linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asus_U3100_Mini_plus_DVB-T
 
user1804599
Almost like lenses!
 
As in you need them to restore eye-sight, partially
 
user1804599
I like zneak.
 
user1804599
> location Hyrule
 
user1804599
8:14 PM
Now I want to play LoZ.
 
8:30 PM
Evening matadors.
 
user1804599
I'm summarizing about 200 years of mathematics, almost none of which is standardly taught to undergraduates at almost any university. So if you want to understand what's going on, you have a pencil-sketch above and enough terms and links to start trying to assemble a picture. How much you will eventually understand depends largely on how much time and energy you're willing to put into understanding, as with pretty much anything substantial. Good luck! — Ryan Budney Aug 24 '10 at 9:10
 
user1804599
Most evil answerer ever.
 
Ryan is a good guy.
 
It's evil because
 
user1804599
@sehe Hey I'm only terrible at geometry and linear algebra!
 
8:34 PM
> only
:)
 
the two most useful fields
followed by stats
 
user1804599
The most useful field is computer science!
 
says the dropout
 
user1804599
I wonder whether extraterrestrial creatures believe in omnipotent entities too.
 
They do
 
8:35 PM
Yes, they believe in themselves
 
@rightføld I'd say medicine, but don't tell anyone. I might soon need another job.
and I'm afraid of blood.
 
Do I have to inb4 the binning?
 
@sehe That's something I had never seen before. Quite messed up :P
 
user1804599
inb4 Jefffrey inb4s the binning.
 
1 message moved to bin
@MarcoA. indeed it is
 
8:38 PM
I had a colleague who used to grab every unreadable C++ syntax (especially macros) and stitch it into production code
3
the problem was that the project often had bugs because of the monstrous complexity.. and I wasn't that happy to dive into his code
I'm glad he didn't see this one
 
> This relatively new mindset that C# can just keep on growing and growing and even drift away from its core principles entirely is completely toxic IMO. C# is in danger of following the same path that Java has taken. Bolting on features in a haphazard way without capturing all the edge cases properly
Good comment on article Why can't C# be F#
@MarcoA. Plot twist: he's now on SO as "zneak"
 
user1804599
Steampunk earrings are nice.
 
lol
 
@rightføld ?
 
user1804599
@sehe He's zneaky.
 
8:42 PM
I could switch avatars to that one, really. /cc @CaptainGiraffe
 
@sehe do you write F#?
 
And Breakup could be a useful plugin
 
user1804599
Anyone ever bought anything on Etsy?
 
@JohanLarsson Not yet. Been reading about it during summer. Looks like a sweet deal
 
I've bee trying to start and failed a couple of times
So spoiled by R# and VS when writing C#
 
8:46 PM
It looked like a piece of cake, since my short stint with Haskell previous summer
@JohanLarsson You should do more C++ in vim.
 
pretty sure I'm too old for learning c++
don't need it much either
 
real men today program in OZ: mozart.github.io
according to my professor C++ is obsolete and Oz is the future
 
user1804599
Styx master race.
 
@MarcoA. I love it when profs are opinionated. I hope he does explain his stance vividly too. And encourages others to think for themselves
 
user1804599
Ah.
 
user1804599
8:54 PM
I love it when sites link to Gmail after registering.
 
I just solved Project Euler 84. Where the bitches at?
 
@MarcoA. I've heard the same, but with many different languages where you have "Oz". You've probably never even heard of most of those languages (e.g,. Eiffel, C+@, Sather, and Actor). You may have heard of some of the others (e.g., OCaml, Objective-C) but despite years of trying (and, often being heavily promoted by interested parties) none has really succeeded in displacing C++ to any more than an extremely limited extent.
 
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lol PE
 
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Practically Errelevant
 

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