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12:02 PM
hi Ell!
 
Xeo
@milleniumbug slooooow as fuck
but yeah. the only thing that exists atm
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion hi :D
 
FastFormat
 
@Ell how you been?
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion I've been okay
not really doing much with my summer though
 
12:09 PM
enjoy it.
that's the least you could do
 
Ell
and a little nervous for results day, pretty sure I'm going to be stuck at college for another year :P
 
Ell
How have you been? :)
 
Not too bad
work work work
 
@TonyTheLion You are happy because he might be stuck in college for another year?
 
12:10 PM
@Jefffrey No, that smiley was supposed to be right after my last message, before Ell interjected his message
 
I know
 
oh you
 
Ell
Maybe I should resume my loungechat work
I forgot where I got up to
 
yea. finish that thing
cause we're all hopeless at finishing it in here
 
Ell
the problem is that lua sucks :P
 
12:11 PM
we're doing a massive Rightfold
 
loungechat is still a thing?
 
Ell
speaking of him, where is @rightfold ?
 
apparently
@Ell he rage quit
 
Ell
aw dayum :/
 
@Ell he's still among us in a concealed manner
 
Ell
12:11 PM
How come? :(
 
@Ell cause he's a pussy
 
and then joined as "Polymorphic Potato"
 
maybe rightfold's a russian spy
 
Ell
lol, in my lounge chat thing I just found a file called "TEST.nigger"
(I wonder who will flag this?)
 
12:13 PM
lol
 
lol
 
lol
 
lol
@Ell refp
 
you broke it :(
 
you broke it :(
 
12:14 PM
@SimonFrost wait, who are you
 
man, I don't know
 
> Simon Frost
 
@AlexM. is that a rhetorical question?
 
lol no
 
It's just a "The Who" reference
 
12:15 PM
it seems that was indeed his first message
"lol" at
2 mins ago, by Ell
lol, in my lounge chat thing I just found a file called "TEST.nigger"
 
Ell
argh why does lua suck so much -.-
 
lol
 
@TonyTheLion no sense of direction in life
@Jefffrey I broke it
 
@sehe I have a sense of direction, generally I like forward
 
okay, so, I see this fugly question and leave this comment
With magic. Flagging this as unclear what you're asking. Show some examples of what you tried, and maybe we can help you from there. — Alex M. 2 hours ago
then OP edits the question to add what he/she tried
which is...
> I have dragged the model in to the scene
 
12:18 PM
@sehe better than one direction
 
@AlexM. Out of context that sounds funny
 
it's as if someone asked us to write the code for them and when asked about what they tried, they'd answer with
"I started the IDE"
 
ah balls.
 
@Jefffrey erm. Maybe you mean, better than no room for change
 
I have a function that has a side effect, but the debugger says that the side effect doesn't exist until after some other random lambda in the body has been called.
hmm, or maybe I just did a stupid.
 
12:23 PM
@Puppy Sounds like lazy evaluation.
 
@Jefffrey Is exactly what happened, but I lazied it too far.
 
@Jefffrey tl;dr plz
 
Please, i'm not responsible of your feeling of inferiority. So just leave me, you're very useless. Please. Now. — unomadh 38 secs ago
lol.
 
I'm being followed by some Irish Clit on twiter... oh wait, @IrishClt is meant to be 'Irish Culture'
 
@thecoshman "Guy faps, but then..."
 
12:34 PM
@Jefffrey ... I think we're done here
 
You pussy, just watch it.
 
work vOv
 
It just takes 5 seconds, and there's no audio.
(it's a gif)
 
3 mins ago, by Jefffrey
@thecoshman "Guy faps, but then..."
 
@thecoshman Spoiler: He doesn't fap.
 
12:37 PM
vOv I'll wait till I get home if it's all the same
 
@jweyrich What book would you like to have above all from this list?
 
maybe...
 
@thecoshman lol
 
@ThePhD you said I should remind you personally: meta.gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/1685/…
 
hm, I have 131 tablets here
 
12:40 PM
DrugMG
 
Ell
@Jefffrey Compilers: Principles, Techniques, and Tools (2nd Edition)
 
@TonyTheLion The pharmacy gave me more by mistake and told me to keep the rest.
 
You should sell them.
$100 a piece.
 
doc
@Puppy headphones fixed?
 
@Jefffrey though question!
 
12:43 PM
no.
 
doc
@Puppy :/
 
> $137.75
 
Ell
@Jefffrey yup
that's why I don't have it :(
 
My Vodafone has such an extremely crappy site
 
doc
@sehe or it's not Vadafone site)
 
12:51 PM
@Jefffrey I think today it would be "The Pragmatic Programmer".
 
Ell
@sehe I never know what to do when this pops up.
 
@doc it is.
@Ell It's pretty simple "Reject" and make it permanent
It's usually ads, sidechannel marketing or analytics. I don't care.
The main page uses this cert: http://i.imgur.com/47Pd9kC.png
It's obviously some side loaded resource
 
> -10 40 mins ago removed User was removed (learn more)
:(
 
1:16 PM
> An STL example is the std::_Ptr_base which is the base class for std::shared_ptr and std::weak_ptr
ಠ_ಠ
 
ew
 
Where's Lightness when you need him?
 
Xeo
@chris Where did you get that?
 
you need Lightness for something?
get yo head on straight
 
1:28 PM
7
A: Template class friendship

rashmatashThere's no point indeed to make a class a friend to itself, except if it is a template class. For example the following code makes sense: template <class T> class A { template<class U> friend class A; } An STL example is the std::_Ptr_base which is the base class for std::shared_ptr an...

@TonyTheLion Like you need a haircut?
 
no like I want to sleep
 
Xeo
@chris Oh gawd, not you too with the "STL vs stdlib" bullshit
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion haha
 
@Xeo This isn't even referring to the part of the stdlib based on STL
 
Who gives a fuck
When someone talks about STL you can be 99.99999% sure they're not talking about SGI STL
 
1:35 PM
I always think they're talking about Stephan
 
I always think they're talking about me
 
You're not STL
 
Stephan beat the odds on that coincidence.
 
:18156608 I was talking about Steven the Lavabear
 
Didn't read the last comments btw.
 
1:48 PM
:)
 
Lavabear brings Java to memory, then suddenly I run out of RAM.
 
oh god
 
sigh. Cisco just disqualified my bug report from their bug bounty program.
 
gd.se moderator answers completely unclear and broad question with completely unclear and broad answer
and plugs in his paid unity 3d tutorial
what the hell
 
kill him
OMG I'M SO BORED
out in the middle of nowhere on a tech trial
managed to get 3G and bluetooth tethering so.. hi.
Step 1: Plug in wires
Step 2: Make desk in back of van look pretty
Step 3: Sit in van
Step 4: Turn on logging in my shiny Windows app
Step 5: Wait all fucking day
 
2:00 PM
and now he deleted the comments in which I was telling him what he did was wrong
what the hell gamedev
you weren't this pile of shit 4 months ago
 
flag
other mods can see those deleted comments
also urlplz
 
-2
Q: Identify mouse click unity3d

Deepika C PI have a 3 fbx models in Unity3d named player1 player2 player3. I have dragged the models into the scene. Now when I mouse click on each model, it should display the model's corresponding model name and glows the model that indicates the object have been clicked. How can I do that? void OnMous...

the question is essentially this
 
I can see your comment
 
"I want to detect mouse clicks, make models glow and print text! Here's what I tried so far: I've added models to the scene."
 
should definitely be flagged as spam/self-promotion. What a great behavior from a mod.
 
2:02 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I posted that comment after deletion
 
meh, it's not that bad
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The room is sleepy
 
Ell
I guess people are at work? :P
I'm working on my lounge chat impl again
I wonder if I'll get anywhere with it by the end of summer
 
2:19 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit of course it's bad, the answer was posted just for that link
people following the tutorial bring him money
to make it seem less weird he chose the minimal part of the question that can be answered (i.e. getting mouse input) and answered it
and only tried to cover the (unanswerable I say) other areas when I pointed it out
 
I would find the duplicate that probably exists and vote to close
Someone has to have answered 'how do I handle mouse input' already
 
yeah didn't even think of duplicated
I was too concentrated on the guy picking the only thing allowing him to drop the link there
 
ack
gotta call up the benefit people
I hate doing that.
 
@AlexM. Yep, flag the answer for moderator attention. Another mod's gonna see it and fix it.
Damn, he's even advertising for his own tutorial.
 
yep
 
2:35 PM
If anyone's bored in here, I'd love some help with stackoverflow.com/questions/25184611/…;, now I've given it the mandatory half an hour for all the assholes to drop in and say things that are 100% correct and utterly unhelpful.
 
@RobertAtkins If stating correct and useless things would bother me I would have to change my major. :)
 
@RobertAtkins why are you not declaring tempState with WIDTH and HEIGHT?
 
@sam
@samdeh
OH ffs, So. @SamDeHaan Because that doesn't work? Because I didn't think I needed to because I thought I could just flip pointers around?
 
Good morning
is there a difference between std::abs and std::fabs?
 
@Serthy std::abs is overloaded for integer types, std::fabs is not.
 
2:40 PM
@RobertAtkins I am confused. The reaction, plus those two questions, seem to imply opposite things.
 
Dankeschoen, guess abs is the general better choice then
 
@Serthy I'd agree.
 
Alright, have a nice day ;)
 
@EtiennedeMartel that would be nice if it didn't involve $. But in this case... I think his posts should be reviewed to detect whether he's taking advantage of his position to promote his business (which I believe is against the rules, in many cases)
 
INTERNET MODERATOR POINTS CORRUPTION POLICE
 
2:52 PM
@jweyrich I flagged the answer stating the tutorial part is irrelevant to anything OP asked
just as well anyone could end their answers with "If you want to find out more, see this tutorial here:"
for any topic
 
I think that's not actually the point. I worry more about the "trial" he points.
 
well that's probably the reason he posted it yes
probably
> Default.aspx?lpk35=1833&utm_medium=ldc-partner&utm_source=SSPRC&utm_content=655&‌​utm_campaign=CD15496&bid=655&subID1=GamedevSE&aid=CD15496
it's also pretty obvious looking at the link that it's a referral link
so he's likely to get benefits even from referring users that don't pay after the trial
 
right. I do recommend reviewing his posts. That would tell whether we are being dicks, or if his behaviour is subject to temporary suspension.
 
Post on meta get him meta arrested
 
lol
 
3:01 PM
More self-promotion in gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/79352. Although the frequency seems quite low.
 
well he is a moderator after all
if he didn't think he was doing something wrong he wouldn't have changed his answer whenever I pointed things out
 
Xeo
@jweyrich 4 answers
out of >900
I don't think it's problematic
 
you're a murkdown failure a disgrace to murkkind
 
Xeo
although they are all rather recent
 
Entertain me minions
 
Xeo
3:04 PM
and also, it's not like he doesn't answer the questions
 
@Xeo: thanks. Looks like he's trying to genuinely help.
 
Xeo
it's just some more stuff
 
@Xeo probably because he finished the tutorial recently :P
 
Xeo
ye
 
> declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it
welp
 
3:05 PM
What did you expect
 
> We're sorry...

There are an unusual number of requests coming from this IP address.

To protect our users, we can't process any more requests from this IP address right now.
welp x2
 
Post on fukken meta and don't flag where he can just click the flag away jesus you're the worst at arresting people on the internet
 
I think a moderator that was flagged cannot unflag himself
 
lmao.
 
I remember this being said by some other mod once
 
3:08 PM
ESTABLISHMENT
 
lol my flag was rejected but the mod who rejected it still edited the answer to include
> (disclosure: I am the author)
 
i am the op
 
Linebreaks for clarity: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/35802
 
@CatPlusPlus you're overloaded
Answering questions is such a thankless job. i.imgur.com/mQHxgRD.png
Can you spot the one that wasn't about boost? That's the one which raises the average by 40%
 
Ell
3:26 PM
I've forgotten everything I need to know about openid connect :'(
 
You now know everything you needed to forget about openid
 
@RobertAtkins Well, I've added my two cents worth. I really do hope it doesn't fall into the "correct and utterly unhelpful" category (though I'll admit I hope even more strongly that it doesn't fall into the "incorrect and unhelpful" category).
 
Ell
3:41 PM
and now I can't get CORS to work :S
 
53
Q: What is the difference between Terminal, Console, Shell, and Command Line?

AkivaWhat is the difference between Terminal, Console, Shell, and Command Line?

interesting
 

Are they consoles, terminal emulators, console emulators, command prompts? O.o

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You're not around often enough
@Jefffrey wut
@TonyTheLion In my experience, that is not standard
 
ConEmu owns
 
Forbes writes "Hold Security is charging people $120 to tell them if they're in the stolen-password database" - can you spell #scam #hoax?
@CatPlusPlus It's a con job
 
dyp
Does anyone know about a type deduction bug in clang++ wrt function lvalues in the context of universal references?
 
3:52 PM
@sehe please enter your cc number and pin to see if your cc number and pin is on our list of cc numbers and pins
 
~~~yes~~~
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@CatPlusPlus it reminds me of a thing about credit cards asking credit card numbers to check if the number has been stolen... also the code behind the card
 
Without the code behind the card there's little you can do.
 
3:57 PM
So the thing I just said reminds you of the thing I just said
@Jefffrey Not really
Amazon doesn't require CVVs :v
 
Great
 
ah right you mean cc as in credit card
 
The only real security in CCs is transaction tracing and chargeback
 
I think cc are the weirdest "safe" technologie
 
PIN and CVV are just slight speed bumps
 
3:59 PM
It always amazes me how I have a pin on my card and I'm not always required to input my pin
 
Depends on terminal
 
I know that it is even possible to do web transactions that requires a pin
 
Scam
(Yeah you can but nobody should ask you to)
 
Nah, the site redirects to your bank
like a oauth flow (...something like that)
 
lolwat
 
4:02 PM
Eh, that's a different kind of system
 
 
dyp
Uh... is an id-expression referring to a function template specialization not an lvalue?
 
Oh noes. It is that season again. The wasps I can deal with. But the chucks...
 
anyone has osx?
I'm scared to upgrade to 10.9.4
 
@dyp huh. An id-expression is not a value category at all, AFAICT
 
4:04 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Remember that if it breaks it's doing a service to you and humanity
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I do
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Way to go for the most friendly OS on the block
 
dyp
@sehe Every expression has a value category.
 
I have the feeling that it will break my system again
I'd rather wait for 10.10
 
dyp
@sehe What I mean is, given template<class T> void foo();, is foo<int> not an lvalue?
 
4:05 PM
@dyp AFAIK an id-expression is kinda like an unresolved type name? Like std::vector?
 
10.10 is pretty sad
 
@dyp It is likely a const lvalue
 
@Jefffrey wait until 10.10.10 people will call it OS.XXX
 
@sehe Nope, pointer decay a'la arrays.
 
And they'll call the os "sexy panda"
 
dyp
4:07 PM
@sehe I have this weird behaviour of clang++ live example which I'm quite sure is a bug -- but then again, it seems to obvious to be one..
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I mean that it really doesn't add anything really useful.
 
@Puppy How? You can initialize a function ref from a normal function name, why not a template instance?
@dyp ^ it surprises me too then
 
@Jefffrey about that I'm not surprised. Better adding a few things once in a while than changing the whole UI like win8
 
Xeo
@Puppy it is an lvalue, but can undergo a function-to-pointer standard conversion
auto& f = foo<int>; // decltype(f) == void(&)()
 
sounds exactly like array pointer decay.
 
4:11 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix They added this "transparency" bullshit everywhere in the UI, so that your CPU will be happily eaten alive while processing this useless detail.
 
@Xeo why did that happen with the 'universal reference'? It does the expected thing for bar
@Puppy ^ which is exactly not like array pointer decay
 
Xeo
I didn't follow the discussion
:P
 
arrays are lvalues, but can undergo an array-to-pointer standard conversion.
 
I think it's safe to assume that @dyp knows about decay
 
Wait what Apple's shitty UI is software rendered? :laffo:
 
4:12 PM
I wouldn't predict const to have any involvement since I'd bet that this behaviour was specified before const existed.
 
dyp
I'm not sure how decay is relevant here. Similarly to arrays, functions (id-expressions referring to..) are immutable lvalues as far as I know.
 
arrays can't be assigned to but they're not immutable.
if they were immutable, then you couldn't index into them and get a mutable reference back out.
 
dyp
@Puppy IIRC there's a distinction in C between mutable and immutable lvalues. I'll look it up.
 
Xeo
@dyp hm, yeah, looks like a bug
 
@Puppy Inform us how you mutate a function.
 
Xeo
4:14 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He didn't say you can
 
@Xeo I didn't say he did
 
Xeo
sigh
 
a function has no potentially mutating operations except assignment anyway so the distinction between being const and not is mostly in the type system rather than practical anyway.
 
you just did that literally right now so don't sigh at me
 
4:15 PM
I'm sure someone here has a function to turn .text pages r/w and inject opcodes
 
true, but that's definitely outside the range of C89, which is where this particular behaviour would have been first specified.
 
dyp
@Puppy OK, C doesn't use the word mutable, but modifiable. An array is not a modifiable lvalue.
 
Fucking stupid annotations
YouTube why can't you fucking remember that I don't want this shit on screen
@Mysticial pls fix
 
@CatPlusPlus That's exactly what I thought when I watched this video.
 
4:20 PM
@Xeo Not a single duck was given that day
 
lol
DRACARIS
why do annotations even exist, anyway? they are always 100% full of shite
 
Cool I wonder
is anyone of you working on their own?
 
Xeo
s/working //, in that case
 
4:34 PM
@CatPlusPlus it is?
 
You said cpu
 
don't mind me, I don't know shit
 
Hardware transparency doesn't eat up cpu
I wouldn't be surprised because Apple is bad at computers
And everything
boop bee boop
 
nice, 5Mbit/s here, despite being in the middle of nowhere. SGA ep in 10 minutes ^_^
 
how do you get games
 
4:36 PM
Oh, you mean CPU vs GPU?
 
pirates aboard.
 
Yes that is usually what hardware v software rendering is about yes
yarrr fuck yer monopoly
Time to go to sleep and hope I won't wake up at goddamn midnight again
 
They have also changed the font. Oh FFS.
Lucida Grande >> Helvetica Shit Neue
 
In Yosemite?
 
yes
> Apple finally ditched its OS typeface Lucida Grande to use Helvetica Neue across the board
 
4:40 PM
they're really bad at ui
 
Not very important.
 
oh no, a minor font change. Everything is ruined.
 
@PolymorphicPotato Just look at it.
It's fugly as fuck.
 
Looks fine to me.
 
You really are just looking for something to complain about.
 
4:41 PM
possible
 
you don't have to look very far with osx!!
okay sleep bye
 
bye
 
fonts? worry about the soldered RAM and SSD. F*ck retina.
 
Or don't worry and only buy things you like.
 
@Michelle: | x | <-- read x — Lightness Races in Orbit 22 secs ago
@Jefffrey Looks quite pretty I think
@CatPlusPlus bit early
 
Xeo
4:51 PM
> Spread Anarchy Don't tell me what to do!
^ shirt design I just saw
 
5:16 PM
@jalf ._.
 
5:27 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's no match to this ^
 
~ScopedLock()&& = delete; // not allowed :(
 
@Jefffrey Why must everything be so flat.
 
because 2014 I guess
 
The Lion is back
 
@TonyTheLion But when will Tony the Tiger be back?
 
5:41 PM
never
 
@TonyTheLion :-(
 
Ell
Just made a mojito
wasn't as much a disaster as the pina colada
 
@Ell Making a Mojito well requires more manual labor than skill. (Not intended as an insult, just an observation).
 
Also, there's no difference between an edit that is well-meaning but wrong, and a troll. So if you make a well-meaning edit that the answerer believes is wrong, you will be treated like a troll as soon as you apply it twice. — Steve Jessop yesterday
what
 
5:59 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you do an edit, the OP rolls it back, and you reapply the edit, the OP is likely to assume you're trolling rather than making a mistake.
 

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