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@JohannesSchaub-litb I still find it harder to read than it has to be, but it's better than before
need to get dressed and catch the train
*ploff*
@Griwes "Near" pfft do you know how many night buses go "near" Wrocław
ZERO
Downtown or bust
I know my way around the city, man.
@BartekBanachewicz oh that's right, you didn't get to play that at all then?
that moment when high school students have their finals and you don't give a shit because you finished high school
happy studying faggots
woohoo
god I hate school :(
22:03
Other people merely adopted it. I was born in it!
Me too. I haven't lived here for 18 years, but I was deffo born here
@jalf nope. We played a bit of that poker-ish thingy on sunday night, but robot said the table is too dirty for zombies cause they have no covers
Imma buy myself cards against humanity
and bring it next time
@CatPlusPlus Welcome to the club, then :D
I think when I'll be done with college I'll feel so accomplished I'll probably die
Couldn't you have cleaned the table?
22:05
we did.
or is relieved the proper word?
but we were also too drunk and tired to play a more demanding game
Have you played Jenga
and zombie fluxx has everchanging rules
That's the best drunk game
22:05
@CatPlusPlus 'course I did.
You as in you not you
@CatPlusPlus we were kinda limited to what we had on us
it was on Hauptbahnhof
I understand none of this word
Dworzec Główny, silly :P
see, I picked up some german
22:07
altough I totally failed a german-only conversation
I was kinda limited to quick exchanges in bars/stops whatever
I'm limited to yes and no
OTOH I managed to read a newspaper on the airport today and like, understand a lot of it :3
@CatPlusPlus I can also count up to ~20.
I can only count on myself
And say I don't understand anything.
22:08
I'm a catculator
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7 hours ago, by Rapptz
Just use OpenGL :>
this will go down in history
ubuntu is like this trap for innexperienced pc users
half the question on askubuntu "I installed ubuntu, didn't know what I was doing, repartitioned my drive with no backup"
"help, this software sucks"
who wants to bet how terribly it's going togo when Dead tries to implement exceptions?
22:09
no, you suck, RTFM
@crasic No, that attitude is why Linux sucks.
I once installed Ubuntu, I knew what I was doing, and it still repartitioned my drive :v
@DeadMG What are the prizes?
pro tip: Most users don't know what they're doing, are never going to read the manual, and you will never accrue a substantial user base as long as you have "Read the manual" as a barrier to entry.
unless they're getting paid to read the manual
I will settle for reading the clearly printed information in the installer
22:10
They might get paid but they won't read
Users are dumb
@crasic Won't do that either.
Yeah, the ubuntu installer is quite good at slapping you with all the information you need.
@Rapptz nope, he lives in Czech Rep.
If you don't want to read that - fuck you.
Do you want to DELETE EVERYTHING, or INSTALL SEPERATELY
DELETE EVERYTHING
10 min later "WHY IS EVERYTHING GONE"
22:11
Exactly.
@JohannesSchaub-litb y'what?
"User" is a synonym for "idiot"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the wiki says runtime_exception on whether you will come to the meeting
@JohannesSchaub-litb aha, yes, that :)
also would you believe that Xeo took pictures of food
of all the people
22:12
Well the thing is some of this shit requires intentional fucking up
got an ICE when I tried what()
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it was him, not me.
user3010322
<_<
user3010322
Sooooo.
user3010322
VC++ works. >_>
22:12
@BartekBanachewicz Of!
Like, at what point does a user think, if they have no clue what they are doing, that maybe messing with partition tables and cylinder alignments is probably not what they should be doing
They don't think
@CatPlusPlus fuck prepositions. And pronounciating.
Never, ever
@BartekBanachewicz fuck everything
22:13
wow.. there's some serious thunder going on.. damn, if only i had that bass in my subwoofer ^^
Chainsaw everything
We've established that I'm as good at pronouncing things as coshman is at spelling them.
Well then if you are so confident in your abilities that you pick "manual partitioning" thinking you are master of the partition tables, its your own damn fault
I HAVE A TERRIBLE ACCENT
I blame this shitty ass country
Yeah
> shitty ass-country
22:14
Fits either way
@CatPlusPlus everyone had terrible accents after Śliwowica (which was fucking dumb, because it was from pears)
ass-shitty country
lol
so yeah there you go nobody cares
stop making excuses
@BartekBanachewicz that's pretty embarassing
22:14
it was fun.
@CatPlusPlus eh, so does xeo (and probably the rest of us too) :p
@jalf oh right, zis.
zis and zat.
user3010322
Hnnngh.
user3010322
Dat accent. <3
I'll print myself cards
22:17
just wave euros and point
@ThePhD the funniest part was when, at some point, Xeo proclaimed that he's going to ask people in English for directions rather than in German, because no one around understands German.
Berlin is not germany, basically.
it's berlin.
user3010322
Tourism OP.
we weren't exactly tourists
more like a bunch of drunkards, TBH
tbh, I'd kind of dreaded that before the unconference. Irish accents can be hard enough to decode, but throwing in polish, german and portuguese ones, I'd kind of worried about how hard it would be to understand each others :p
user3010322
Everyone else was tourists, though. :D
22:19
@ThePhD actually those were people coming back from Sabbath concert
@BartekBanachewicz I thought the funniest part was robot spending 4 hours to find us, in the city he's lived in for 18 months :p
@jalf Meh, maybe because we aren't really natives we got that easier.
@jalf ahaha I still have ape's face in mind
when he like stopped laughing for a while, paused... and then like couldn't hold it anymore
He didn't post selfie, ban ban ban
he's protecting his identity vOv
@CatPlusPlus don't worry, we know what he looks like now
22:22
So you've got "where" covered, now when is "when" for the next one? Sounds like you guys had fun and I want some, too :(
We sell fun in friendly-priced packets starting from 9.99€/month
it's bad that "c++faq" robs one tag out of the 5
@Griwes not in that fucking heat again though
37 degrees C is way more than I (and anyone else, frankly) could handle
December then :v
Cosh was basically melting.
22:23
@BartekBanachewicz lol
@BartekBanachewicz :D
December should be a nice 20 or something
Well, I feel you, I was melting here, too.
I have a FAN haha
oh right you were south
22:24
I win
in Gdańsk it was 21-23 or something
@BartekBanachewicz :sudden realisation:
was so pleasant to get off the plane
btw I took a photo of her
Here is a paradox
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, I've got some thing that makes the air fresher, but I also have an entire wall of windows on the southern side.
U.S. has very high youth soccer participation rates
but nobody cares about the big leagues
You mean football.
ambiguous term stateside
much sexier than the bigger jets
22:26
@crasic The only correct when talking to europeans.
@BartekBanachewicz well, he did wear thick warm socks and boots, iirc.
@jalf right. Metalhead image is more important that melted feet :D
fine, pitch football vs gridiron football
also you know what's best in germany?
The hotspots that offer you a free trial, and then send login details to your email address.
thanks, that's very fucking helpful.
I was about to say "not the complete lack of wifi hotspots"
Last time I flew I noticed that the airport hotspot just blocked port 53 unless you logged in
tunneled to a home dns resolver and I got free internet
now however, at&t has hotspots everywhere and my phone just automatically uses them
also @CatPlusPlus I have a video
yeah but it's crappy a bit.
Airport hotspots should just be free, end of topic. Otherwise, why the hell are you even providing those.
22:32
@Griwes To make money, clearly.
also, hi Griwes, I often see you in #llvm :P
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Q: What is decoupling and what development areas can it apply to?

jt0ddI recently noticed decoupling as a topic in a question, and want to know what it is and where it can apply. By "where can it apply", I mean: Is it only relevant where compiled languages like C and Java are involved? Should I know about / study it as a web developer?

@BartekBanachewicz blimey, haven't ridden a prop plane in years
thought it was gonna be a girl, though, so fuck you
there was this passage in the pragmatic programmer with temporal decoupling applied in real life
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :F
and I just can't, for the love of god, find a great application of it
simply because people are generally terrible at doing two things at once
22:37
@crasic heh
> Go fuck.
> I'm just going to delete this question and run away... – user3487713 3 mins ago
Not the first time someone has gotten a question-ban from an April Fools joke.
morning
So ubuntu is moving away from gtk
I see bartek is back
22:45
finally that thing will die
@Mysticial That's harsh :( Must have been a bad one.
I want a way to see peoples' deleted questions on their profile; I'm at 117k, FFS!
Why don't people understand how flags work?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit +1
omg
yeah, funny
that was worth it if only to pretend to be able to see your face
22:53
YOU DID IT?
I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU
@NikosAthanasiou you play ball at midnight I see
MediaWiki's Dynamic Page List is not very dynamic, because you have to edit and save the page :cripes:
@Jefffrey haha WHY?
Anyway why were you suddenly moaning about flags?
@40two creepy
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why you say that?
@crasic GTK3 isn't bad
Also no it won't
22:59
@LightnessRacesinOrbit because I saw a flag on one of the most unflaggable posts
@Jefffrey I see. I missed it
@CatPlusPlus no resolution independence
@40two how do you know what @NikosAthanasiou is doing at midnight?
and they want to be relevant on mobile systems
@crasic Eh?
23:00
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I showed a question he posted
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It was on this:
in C#, 4 mins ago, by Travis J
*Long drawn out beep*
This is a test of the flag broadcasting system. This is only a test. Had this been an actual flag there would have either been nudity, profanity, or both with an image of the Dos Equis guy in the background.
*Long drawn out beep again. seriously, most people got it the first time*
@Mysticial thanks ;p
@40two oh
@CatPlusPlus basically, high dpi support
@LightnessRacesinOrbit we are both known rep-whores and make fun of each other
@40two I can't see it
23:01
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
Resolution independence is where elements on a computer screen are rendered at sizes independent from the pixel grid, resulting in a graphical user interface that is displayed at a consistent size, regardless of the size of the screen. Concept As early as 1978, the typesetting system TeX due to Donald Knuth introduced resolution independence into the world of computers. The intended view can be rendered beyond the atomic resolution without any artifacts, and the automatic typesetting decisions are guaranteed to be identical on any computer up to an error less than the diameter of an atom....
Xeo
Xeo
fucking storms
Wut?
What happened?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what you can't see?
Xeo
Xeo
storm above NRW wrecked shit, no trainservice, stuck for 3 hours and at least 30 mins more
23:05
@Mysticial It was actually before this one:
in C#, 13 mins ago, by Pheonixblade9
I flagged it for you.
Xeo
Xeo
I did think about taking tomorrow off to recover, but now it's official
@40two the question. doesn't matter.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why is that?
Xeo
Xeo
I think I should get another waffle while we're still stuck here
doesn't up-casting polymorphic rules apply for unique_ptr?
23:08
@Xeo oh fuck I feel sorry for you. I got trough everything without problems. With the electronic pass only. :S
Xeo
Xeo
teehee
welp, time to go dark again
just wanted to get a distress signal out
But yeah at least we a) met robot last time b) you got waffles and day off
Take care. Hope you get home soon
Xeo
Xeo
More news in 30mins probably
hei xeo
hei bartek
guise, am I tripping or is this illegal code:?
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Q: unique_ptr ownership semantics

alecbI have an object that I'm to pass to a different object which claims ownership of it, but as a pointer to its base class. However, I want to grab a pointer to the child object that I can use to reference it. I wrote something like: Foo(std::unique_ptr<Child> thing) : OtherObject(std::move(th...

specifically OtherObject(std::move(thing)) in the construction list
@Jefffrey that's why I asked the question previously
23:12
@Jefff I'm going to sleep soon :(
holy moly it's later than I thought
tata
@Jefffrey Why would that be illegal?
@AndyProwl because OtherObject is a function
@BartekBanachewicz why are you sad? sleeping is nice :D
as far as I understand it OtherObject is a base class
oh right
23:16
OtherObject is meant to be some arbitrary type, not a unique_ptr. — alecb 48 secs ago
Wanted to talk :P
wish I could downvote comments
oh wait that's the OP
ok he's making little sense to me
time to go to sleep
'night everyone
Anybody in switzerland?
I sent a package to my friend traveling through, and it wasn't deliverd
@BartekBanachewicz tomorrow, just rest :)
he has no idea what post office it would be at, and the swiss postal service has very little info tracking
usps is equally useless, but that is expected
23:48
whats that site with all the unicode codepoints and their information?
(the one used here "all the time")
I just use wikipedia
This is a list of Unicode characters. Basic Latin {| class="wikitable sortable collapsible" !Code !Result !Decimal !Description !Abbreviation |- | U+0000 | | | Null character | NUL |- | U+0001 | | | Start of Heading | SOH |- | U+0002 | | | Start of Text | STX |- | U+0003 | | | End-of-text character | ETX |- | U+0004 | | | End-of-transmission character | EOT |- | U+0005 | | | Enquiry character | ENQ |- | U+0006 | | | Acknowledge character | ACK |- | U+0007 | | | Bell character | BEL |- | U+0008 | | | Backspace | BS |- | U+0009 | | &#9; | Horizontal tab | HT |- | ...
big ass article
warning
that is... much better
fileformat is old and not cool anymore. codepoints.net
unicode is pretty cool

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