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14:00
@CatPlusPlus several times :D
kerbal spess program is still -33% only ;(
@nightcracker what's that put it at?
16 euros or smt
@melak47 Because fuck that shit
@nightcracker I bought it when it was $12 :D
14:01
@melak47 lies
yo guys
Trine is -90%
I already own it like twice :/
I never finished it
It's just sortof meh
that, too
ah
then I'll skip it I guess
or I might actually buy two and do some co-op with a friend
dno
Well if you like platformers with physics puzzles
iirc
:lol: 3.99€ games with -90%
14:05
YOU SAVE LIKE THE ENTIRE GAME
ALL 4 EUROS
can you filter all games that are -90%?
somehow?
No, there's just "under 5€"
btw cat
What you want isn't on sale today? Get notified when it is!
Add a game to your Wishlist and you'll get an email when it gets a big discount. A great idea after the sale too!
I know that
k
just trying to help
lol, slenderman costs 9 euros?
who pays that
Idiots
These games exist pretty much only for shitty YouTubers to fakescream over them
14:09
hi
are there any interesting games on sale? i'm already buying terraria (honestly just buying it for 2.5 is worth) and skyrim
Rogue Legacy is pretty fun
hey bartosz (how are you?
already have rogue legacy
humble bundle sale
Xeo
Xeo
@nightcracker For me, it was already worth it at 10
Prison Architect
Xeo
Xeo
14:09
Way worth it
I have about 300 hours of gameplay on Terraria, according to Steam
I was thinking about prison architect
@nightcracker hi, fucking with MacOS & Xcode : ) and you? buying some games? : D
Bioshock Infinite, although that's not on daily yet
but 15 euros is still quite a lot for a game that I might end up not liking ;P
@BartoszKP yep (
Xeo
Xeo
Antichamber is cool
14:10
@CatPlusPlus not my type of game =/
I got stuck in Antichamber
I might get antichamber
afraid it's this one-trick pony game that gets boring
like portal
Dark Souls is -66%
@R.MartinhoFernandes TeamCity is a breath of fresh air. I'm more than mildly impressed
ugh, I need to tell windows not to turn off the disks after 20 minutes. Starting a download? whirrrr wait for the disk to spin up. trying to shut the computer down? whiirrrrrrrrrrrrRRRR wait for all 6 disks to spin up one after the other....
14:12
@melak47 watch out for ecologists, they might come to your house and chain themselves to your disks!
is there any way I can permanently ignore flags?
they're never useful
You can hide the counter with UserCSS
is that like greasemonkey?
@melak47 just offline the disks. If they're online, you can hardly complain the OS for correctly unmounting them at the appropriate times
@BartoszKP I'm sure all spinning up all the time isn't good either :p
@sehe but I need muh disks
@melak47 hint to the story: they're stupid, you won't explain this to them :D
@melak47 See edit. meh
@sehe Yes, it's really nice. It has that "just works, but for real, not that 'just works' Apple bullshit" feel of JetBrains tools.
fuck, idiots couldn't setup the environment on mac for me again
everything compiles fine on windows, and I need just ctrl-c ctrl-v it into xcode
14:14
@BartoszKP Hey, it "just works"!
and I can't :|
(Perfect timing dude)
: D
@R.MartinhoFernandes when I see the "colorwheel of death" for n-th time I say to myself: "it just spins"
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love the fact that you can actually tell dependent projects to use the same working tree - and it will automatically schedule the follow up to run on the same agent node.
@sehe Yes, it's almost as if it was made by actual programmers.
14:16
Dogfood Done Right (TM)
Apple is not very good at computers
@melak47 dude, if you need to either get HDDs from the last decaded or two, or get SSDs. spin up times are next to nothing
@CatPlusPlus they should sell fruits instead, their name would make sense at least
@thecoshman I have an SSD, which is exactly why the HDDs are so bored they shut down so often :p
iFruit — like regular fruit, but 10x as expensive, and not edible
14:20
@R.MartinhoFernandes I couldn't believe when I read it's on Java after using it for a while. Especially comparing it to Hudson, also in Java :|
@CatPlusPlus better in every way
@BartoszKP you realise they are more or less the same project
Xeo
Xeo
> Sadly they selected C++ as their implementation language and thus NeXT ate their lunch (and later one of the companies) using a proper OO language.
lolz
@BartoszKP It's almost like implementation language doesn't matter
14:21
@thecoshman :| don't believe you
@CatPlusPlus ! O_O
@thecoshman WHAT
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wonder how much trouble it will be to reuse the poject definitions for a Linux-based server installation :/
Hudson and TeamCity are most definitely not the same project.
@R.MartinhoFernandes hudson and jenkins you nipple :P
@thecoshman darn. that's gotta hurt
14:22
Hudson is a continuous integration (CI) tool written in Java, which runs in a servlet container, such as Apache Tomcat or the GlassFish application server. It supports SCM tools including CVS, Subversion, Git, Perforce, Clearcase and RTC, and can execute Apache Ant and Apache Maven based projects, as well as arbitrary shell scripts and Windows batch commands. The primary developer of Hudson was Kohsuke Kawaguchi, who worked for Sun Microsystems at the time. Released under the MIT License, Hudson is free software. Builds can be started by various means, including scheduling via a cron-li...
omg, just what these idiots are creating, look at this:
colours[9].red = 0.0f;
colours[9].green = 0.5f;
colours[9].blue = 0.0f;
color = [UIColor colorWithRed:0.0f green:0.5f blue:0.0f alpha:1.0f];
[colors addObject:color];
[names addObject:@"colour_green"];
colourConstants[9] = GreenColor;

and it goes on like this for 100 lines :|
@thecoshman No one was talking about Jenkins, though.
@thecoshman so, you just semi-jokingly insult others after just missing the boat by half an ocean?
@BartoszKP so they like colours :)
and can't decide on the spelling :)
@melak47 they like being dumb
14:23
Hudson is this Oracle piece of crap that does the bare minimum somewhat well and falters catastrophically any time you need something beyond the bare minimum. TeamCity is this nice tool by JetBrains that is made to be usable far beyond the bare minimum.
@melak47 lol, yes! they have two classes - ColorRecognizer and ColourRecognizer - when I asked what's the difference and what they are for, they couldn't explain :E
Jenkins is like Hudson with a different license/owner/whatever the fuck.
@R.MartinhoFernandes apparently I was having a conversation with my self...
@BartoszKP one serves tea, the other doesn't
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, I had hudson and jenkins both in my company, not much difference at sucking
Xeo
Xeo
14:25
@R.MartinhoFernandes The Hudson Tray Tracker integrates just fine with Jenkins at least. :D
My favourite example is that TeamCity has had personal builds ever since I came into contact with it (maybe six or seven years ago). Hudson still doesn't.
It almost feels like no one uses Hudson for any serious stuff.
TC also has nice IDE integration for that. You can ask the server to build stuff without you even pushing it.
yeah, with more than 4-5 people lack of private builds is a PITA
So you can check if you break the build before you break the build.
@BartoszKP Yet people use it. vOv
@R.MartinhoFernandes We've got a jenkins plugin which does something similar'ish
(which isn't in any way intended to imply that jenkins isn't a POS)
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think Jenkins solution is to use private branches :S
and only have one branch that is actively monitored for being broken
14:32
PIZZA
2
Q: Binding functions with unique_ptr arguments to std::function<void()>

rogerzanoniI'm trying to make the following code work: #include <cstdio> #include <functional> #include <string> #include <memory> using namespace std; class Foo { public: Foo(): m_str("foo") { } void f1(string s1, string s2, unique_ptr<Foo> p) { printf("1: %s %s %s\n", s1.c_...

phff.... serious apathetic mood going on
what's happening?
@TonyTheLion You're asking what's happening
and that's really about it
14:39
:DD
Xeo
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> If you got this far, you’ll probably want to hire me as a consultant.
lol
@user7236293 of course
@Xeo I saw that coming.
@Xeo WTF REALLY
> The problem is that all kinds of common operations on strings, such as counting the amount of characters in a string, or converting a string to upper case, become a horrible mess when you want to support all the characters in the world (and then some)
There we go. I'm done here.
He clearly doesn't understand it.
"counting the amount of characters in a string" doesn't have to support anything.
14:43
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hmmm, how boring
It's hard to make meaningless operations work meaningfully vOv
It does if you are talking about a Unicode string rather than a "string of ASCII bytes"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It doesn't.
@TonyTheLion ikr :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why's that then?
The only use cases for that sort of "counting" depend on 1) bytes or 2) fonts.
There's nothing else interesting to count there.
Pretty much everything out there supports use case 1. Things built for the context of use case 2 also support it just fine.
14:47
Qt, instantializing applications outside of main since 19??.
0
Q: Instantialize QApplication outside main function (library)

Guilherme BernalI have a c++ library and I plan to add a optional feature to it (enabled by a macro) to show some extra debugging information. The idea is to create and open a window made with Qt to display some data. My problem is that I don't have access to the main function (it is a library) so I can't create...

> instantializing
0
A: Else without a previous if error

Vlad from MoscowThis breaks the syntax of the if-else statement. You should move the declaration outside the if-else statement.

teehee
What? Since when "text" is of type std::string?
> Note: I read on Hacker News that Ruby actually does something like this: it has one class per encoding. Declare a law in your Ruby shop that ASCII strings (plain old Ruby strings) are to be treated as machine-only, and you’re pretty far.
lol, "I read on Hacker News" is already funny. He had me at that.
14:49
@Jefffrey it's no, in C++, and that image is wrong. Although it makes no mention of std::string
@Jefffrey who says? Maybe it's a list of "appropriate" types. For once be glad that people dont recommend char*
> Good morning. I would like to buy some Ruby, please.
> Certainly, sir.
^ "Ruby shop"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's what Silvio said
"plain old Ruby strings" is another good one.
14:50
@Jefffrey That was written in 36 hours vOv
> literals
It is... const char[] isn't it?
const char*
Either that or const char *, I forget.
14:50
@Jefffrey nope
IIRC
it's const char[4 + 1]
Well, then fuck!
@Pawnguy7 Yes, const char[n]
2.14.5/8
@Jefffrey kinda misleading there
14:52
a char[n] can be initialised from one of these. Also, of course, your const char[n] may decay into a const char* for use.
char const(&)[5]
@sehe nope, it's not a reference
@Jefffrey variable-width font in code snippets -.-
@Abyx the type of "text" the expression is very much a reference. Mmmm. Maybe not
@sehe No, it is not.
Bandwagon!
It's the first book that mentions std::string before pointers though.
It's an lvalue, but that's a different matter.
@Jefffrey It isn't
<tomalak> << ETYPE_DESC("test");
<geordi> lvalue array of 5 constant characters
@LightnessRacesinOrbit stop, markdown allways wins
@thecoshman DEFEATED
@Abyx What on earth are you trying to say there
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's not what you wanted though, is it :P
@thecoshman it'll do
14:55
@sehe the type of "text"
@sehe except I'd already said it some time prior :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit aka, markdown won yet again XD
@thecoshman I'm happy with the outcome.
@sehe struct {}_ = blah; is a trick to convince the compiler to tell you the type of blah.
@Abyx you just proved what type will be reported if you abuse the expression in some kind of situation
14:56
Wasn't there some way to modify a character literal? UB, but doable I heard.
@sehe The type reported is the right type.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're in denial
@thecoshman perhaps
@Pawnguy7 Well, sure, if you const_cast away the sanity from your life
@Pawnguy7 No, that's actually one of the UBs that doesn't "work by accident" in practice.
@sehe well you can use is_same<const char[5], decltype("text")>
14:57
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It won't work in practice because compilers put them in read-only memory, hence segfault.
decltype is not guaranteed to report the right type.
fuck =\
@R.MartinhoFernandes They can do
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hey, I said in practice.
sbi
sbi
14:58
Hi.
@R.MartinhoFernandes but I wasn't replying to you ;) [originally]
meh
Yes, you're right.
@Abyx Hmm, how do you explain this?
> ,a charitable organisation group discorvered by Britains Multi millionaires
sbi
sbi
I have something like the following code (I haven't tried to compile/link this, but I believe it to reflect the original code):
struct foo {
    static const std::size_t bar = 42;
};

void f(boost::ptr_vector<baz>& bazzes)
{
    for( std::size_t idx = 0; idx < std::min(bar,bazzes.size()); ++idx )
        // ...
}
Strange spam is strange.
sbi
sbi
14:59
GCC 4.8.1 reports: undefined reference to `foo::bar'. Am I missing something, or is this a bug?
@Jefffrey The size of pointers is eight and the size of an array of five chars is five.
@Jefffrey use auto&&

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