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7:00 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum "Agile" is not a methodology, it's a whole category of methodologies.
By the looks of it, you're probably talking about Scrum.
 
Agile is an adjective. Agile methodology is, uhm, agile methodology.
 
@CatPlusPlus I've heard "We use Java and our code base is very light and expressive" before too. It's my personal experience that it's fairly impossible to be expressive and light with Java. That's how I feel about agile. Again, we're probably talking about different things here.
 
You can take some things from Scrum or whatever you like, and just scrap all the bullshit you don't.
 
Every project I have been a part of that used Scrum always used some sort of modified version of Scrum, carefully adapted to the needs of the organization.
 
7 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
That people like to cling to formality is problem with people. vOv
 
7:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Scrum, the backlogs, the index cards, and how developers pick out cards and decide to promote them. Like I said, agile has good 'ideas', but as a whole when I've seen it implemented it failed miserably.
 
Some agile templates even explicitly say that you're supposed to adapt it to your needs, instead of following to the letter like a retard.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm blaming your managers, not the methodology itself.
 
Are you even listening
 
yep, because they fucking agile
 
What etienne said
 
7:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus Following it to the letter is a recipe for disaster.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yup.
 
@EtiennedeMartel If when you say 'scrum' you mean developers meeting every once in a while talking about what they're doing and exchanging information then yeah.
 
And probably falls somewhere on the autism spectrum.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Those are important, by the way.
 
Hi
 
7:04 PM
Hi
 
Does anyone here use GCC as a compiler? I need some opinions on how I should make my library.
 
I don't think doing a meeting every day is necessary, but it's essential to know what the rest of the team is doing.
 
Lo
 
@EtiennedeMartel Of course they are, but it's very different from an hour meeting every morning where everyone tells everything they work on today and tomorrow and yesterday...
 
@Mike nope, it sucks
 
7:05 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Once a week at most.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum An hour? A daily scrum is 15 minutes, time boxed.
 
an hour is too long
 
@Abyx What about VC++?
 
As I said, it's not Scrum's fault if you had incompetent managers.
 
VC++ sucks.
 
7:05 PM
@Mike Don't listen to him, he's Russian.
 
@Mike it also sucks, but it's the best compiler for Windows
 
:lol:
No, it's not.
 
@Abyx Stop trolling.
 
yes, it is.
 
No it isn't.
 
7:06 PM
cough ICC cough.
 
Really it isn't.
 
@EtiennedeMartel meh, I don't
 
@Mysticial Awesome!
 
So no one here uses MinGW? That sucks. Well then, is anyone interested in talking about which is better: static libraries or dynamic libraries?
 
@EtiennedeMartel it costs a lot and good only for Intel CPU
 
7:07 PM
I use MinGW.
 
@Abyx Does anyone use anything else on PC?
 
@Mike yep, MinGW definitely sucks
@EtiennedeMartel AMD?
 
MinGW doesn't suck.
 
@Abyx Is that supposed to be good?
 
@Rapptz Which version, what OS?
 
7:08 PM
@EtiennedeMartel dunno, but a lot of users use it
 
AMD CPUs suck
 
@Rapptz I just so happen to be using one right now.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Did you see this?
 
Is @rubenvb MinGW-w64's maintainer?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't think so.
 
7:09 PM
@Mike 4.8 and Windows 7.
@EtiennedeMartel No he just has a personal build.
 
@Rapptz true.
 
Works pretty good.
 
@Rapptz I see.
 
Ell
@Mike I do :3
 
@Ell you use MinGW?
 
Ell
7:10 PM
GCC
 
JBL
@Borgleader Now that's some art out of code
 
I say to prefer using static libraries
 
Ell
I don't develop for windows
 
@Borgleader That's pretty cool.
 
@Ell Yes, that. So what version, what OS?
 
7:11 PM
Link to messages.
Or I'll resurrect my gif.
 
@CatPlusPlus What do you mean?
What kind of GIF?
 
Hey all, how can I delete the Symbol Table in LZW decoder?
when it is full
 
i think you will be deleted soon enough
 
@Anarkie delete symbolTable;
 
7:23 PM
@Anarkie Read this.
(I know it's not your first time here, but I feel like you haven't checked it out yet)
 
I feel like flagging that picture. I can't stand how it looks at me
 
@Abyx It probably just wants to give you a blowjob.
 
sooo... FreeImage... yay? nay?
 
@EtiennedeMartel you're also weird.
 
@thecoshman It's C. It works.
 
7:32 PM
@EtiennedeMartel better solutions?
 
@thecoshman Unfortunately, not so much.
To give you an idea, we use it extensively here.
 
well then, good enough reason to use it for me :P
 
some people use MFC.
 
The API feels a lot like Win32, though.
 
ergh... I don't want to have to wrap yet another library :P
 
7:35 PM
Win32 API is good. better than that posix crap.
 
Ell
God I'm awful as cs xD
 
@Ell as what?
 
Ell
*at :P
 
oh, FreeImagePlus the C++ wrapper :D
 
*at computer science?
 
7:39 PM
ImageMagick.
 
@CatPlusPlus Is that better or...?
 
I don't use FreeImage dunno.
 
Anyway, there's no clean modern C++ image processing library available.
@rightfold should write one.
 
Though it probably falls flat when you want to do more than just decode images.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ~apparently~ there is free image plus, which is a wrapper for free image... at least, according to free image site
 
Ell
7:41 PM
well it is an image loading library
@thecoshman last time I checked it wasn't very c++
 
@thecoshman I quickly looked at the source, and it looks like Java.
 
6 mins ago, by thecoshman
ergh... I don't want to have to wrap yet another library :P
 
I mean, architecture wise.
 
If you want processing then you probably want ImageMagick.
 
Xeo
Boost.GIL?
 
7:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus Or FreeImage.
@Xeo That works?
 
Ell
@Xeo that's not for loading iirc
 
I just want to get images into OpenGL :P
 
Aaaah.
Well, FreeImage then.
 
Ell
@thecoshman wrap freeimage
 
Oh, I remember FreeImage. It has awful API.
 
7:43 PM
1 min ago, by thecoshman
6 mins ago, by thecoshman
ergh... I don't want to have to wrap yet another library :P
perhaps one day though :D
 
I'm doing same change in 6th place. This codebase is horrible.
 
JBL
@thecoshman Wrap quotes.
 
@JBL o_0
 
Xeo
Hm.
 
I don't know if NHibernate is so unhelpful, or what, that we have so many raw SQL queries in here.
 
Xeo
7:47 PM
I noticed that I haven't coded much / anything in my free time lately. This is bad.
 
Ugh.
@Xeo Did you play games? You should play games instead.
 
@Xeo You should play LoL with us.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I did.
 
Then everything's fine.
How many models representing the same goddamn thing can there be (answer: 4).
 
@EtiennedeMartel Who's us?
 
7:49 PM
@Borgleader Le Conseil du Jambon.
 
o.O
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel I don't like LoL.
 
Is that your team name?
 
@Borgleader It's the name we were giving us when we were studying at Sherbrooke.
 
7:50 PM
@Aboutblank have the record show that this was... ages ago :/
 
I have EVE if I want to have people yell at me for being bad at team games.
 
Eve is a team game?
 
@Aboutblank This one is much more advanced insanity (and recent):
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A: replacing pieces of string

not-seheYou might just reuse this c++ solution (replacing the generic iterators by hardcoding char* instead). I gave it a whirl. However, I wish to give a warning: it looks like you're trying to implement an expression parser. I'd strongly advise you to either handroll a (recursive descent) parser use...

 
speaking of games, do anyone know a game like planetside2, but without Sony?
 
7:52 PM
@CatPlusPlus Its an MMO but I wouldnt call it a team game...
 
@Anarkie Usually you have some sort of pointer/index to the next available spot in the table. You "empty" the table by setting that back to its starting point.
 
Uh playing it alone is a horrible idea.
 
Xeo
Hi @not-sehe. Your "not-" license has expired today. Please change back to @sehe.
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And there are a lot of things you can only do with other people cooperating.
 
Phishing attempt detected
 
7:53 PM
Applicative as a superclass of Monad is reportedly going to make it into Haskell in 2014. Ditto Alternative and MonadPlus.
 
@not-sehe And your pink avatar looks gay.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Wait, Applicative over Monad?
 
@StackedCrooked lol
 
@Xeo 'over'?
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, thats what you mean. When I hear team game I usually think versus League or SC2 (2v2, 3v3, 4v4).
 
7:54 PM
@StackedCrooked I don't care. At least it doesn't wear funny costumes like your national pride in Brussels. Happy Birthday! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manneken_Pis
 
EVE is 1000v1000.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton I mean, wasn't the hierarchy Functor -> Applicative -> Monad?
 
@not-sehe oh lol, I wasn't trying to show your old account was active, I was just pointing out that your answer was more useful IMO
 
Yeah but that is a fraction of the things you can do there. A "lot" of people are just lone pirates praying on the weak
 
@Xeo You know what superclass is, right?
 
Xeo
7:55 PM
@CatPlusPlus That might just be the problem.
 
@Aboutblank Really? I assumed you thought the answer was deeply bad (because it uses new without a hint of warning about ownership, delete :)
 
@Xeo Conceptually and practically (i.e. if you provide Applicative as well as Monad) yes, but it's not enforced or required.
 
@Borgleader Still more fun done in a team.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Is it the restriction part in class (Functor a) => Applicative a where?
 
Xeo
7:56 PM
Okay, then I never said anything.
 
The left of a fat arrow is a context.
 
Oh definitely. I've only spent a little amount of time in eve being part of a corporation/alliance. And I only did one "raid" on a space station in a system nearby belonging to another group. That was neat.
 
It's is-a relationship just like in C++ vOv
 
But then my alliance disbanded and we got the hell out of zero-sec
 
I should login some more.
 
Xeo
7:56 PM
@CatPlusPlus Guess I was thinking the wrong way around for some reason.
 
There's a war going on and stuff.
 
Hey, I'm looking for a way to type in an input in another application in C++/C/Objective-C for OSX. Does anyone know a way?
 
@not-sehe aha well you do have a 'beware' comment in there
 
I don't know this C++/C/Objective-C language.
 
Hmm... it is a rather obscure name.
 
Xeo
7:57 PM
@LucDanton So, class (Applicative m) => Monad m where?
 
@Aboutblank Oh lol, you're right! I should upvote that :/
 
@Xeo ye
 
Xeo
k
So formalizing what was basically implied.
 
at least for my instance
 
Xeo
Also, breaking news: Frozen joghurt drinks are cold. Very cold.
 
7:59 PM
Cheers
 
@CatPlusPlus It's that thing university graduates know.
 

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