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14:00
Which demon do I make a pact with to get Xeo/Robot mastery of C++?
the demon of "Spending eight hours a day answering questions on SO"
I answer questions on SO in bursts
@DeadMG Cool, will prepare the sacrificial PHP programmer right this instant.=!
I answer less than one question a day these days.
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14:03
Same
sometimes I'm on a run and answer 3, but that's rare.
you, me, and the Ape too
but it's more about how we got this way
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I really only answer a question if it's super interesting / tricky - and if @Andy doesn't steal the answer.
Mainly because the tags I lurk are starting to get too many crud.
Arent all the tags getting too many crud?
I still answer some crud in , but fuck if I ever touch any question again.
14:04
Why is it that you can type C++ in the search bar and it would display [c++] tagged questions, but you can't type C++11 and get the same result? ([c++11] tagged questions)
(As in, you type C++ without the brackets)
@Magtheridon96 I guess auto-tagging in search only applies to the popular tags.
I makes some sense because there are many not-so-popular tags that are "normal words".
I am an arounding newblet, I will attempt to answer anything to do with C++, Java, Android, C#, iphone, ios, shell, linux and not necessarily in that order when I want to rep whore, which is rare.
Then it is our duty to come up with both interesting and super-trivial C++11 questions, put them in a queue, ask them periodically and put the asked questions at the end of the queue
that way, it's harder to find duplicates
@Magtheridon96 don't forget to put locks on that...
guys. I need a good game
14:08
@Magtheridon96 just make a list of commonly asked yet interesting question and ask/answer them
@Crowz Portal + Portal 2
@Crowz Project Euler
Funnest shit ever ;_;
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@Magtheridon96 Good plan, as it also guarantee a few dozen upvotes (seriously, I saw too many questions with many, many, many upvotes that are answered by little more than quoting the standard :/)
@Crowz Dark Souls, XCOM
@JBL Hey I got 17 upvotes by saying the file couldn't have 2 main functions...
14:09
@Magtheridon96 I finished like, the first 50 problems... I'm starting work next week so the last thing I want to think about is programming
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@JBL Why would you need more? :P
Okay, here's an easy C++11 question:

"HALP FIX MY CODE IT NOT WORKS"
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@Magtheridon96 DO THINGS RIGHT
@Xeo I don't know, feels kinda lame.
You need really bad ones every now ;_;
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14:10
@Xeo I thought SO was like "you get points by saying correct and helpful things", not "you get points because you can read".
Though i'd admit that you also know where to look in the standard's document.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mine is 693
@JBL If quoting the standard is correct and helpful, where the problem?
464 for me =/
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@Borgleader There's absolutely no problem with that.
Yes, show off your internet penises ;_;
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Maybe I phrased things wrong.
2298 :D
in the last month
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721 last month
0 because I didn't answer a question in forever xD
14:14
oh shit that's yours, forgot to change the user id
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960. mmmh.
719 ;_;
IT'S NOT THE SIZE THAT COUNTS OKAY
@rightfold Ha.
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Robot has 881 over the last two years. I got 991. :D
14:15
@Magtheridon96 lol
I was just confirming the suspicion that I had been putting much more effort into exhaustive answers lately.
@Xeo Sadly I can't write SQL to exclude GSQs.
:P
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:D
my strategy is 3 answers per hour, then deleting all answer which I think was badly answered after a week
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I think my longest answer is the ref-qualifier one
there has to be a better answer than to write a for loop that loops 1000 times...
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@Magtheridon96 Indeed. Answers that are concise (and correct/helpful of course) are valuable !
14:18
there are always more java questions and C# questions than C++ questions
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@JBL This was my shortest answer once: stackoverflow.com/revisions/5889659/1
And it had a good rep/character ratio
OH "a template a day keeps java away"
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@Griwes Just saw this. Laughed.
@Xeo You're cheating, it has a link in it :p
Started Lucia route. Playing through some of the early parts again makes me remember how funny Yoshino is.
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@StackedCrooked Finished Kotori?
14:20
Yes. It was a little strange though..
@Xeo Mine is the C++11 POD rules, at 11526, closely followed by the recent Unicode support in stdlib at 10313.
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@Xeo I have a few that are quite long, and these are most often those who seem not to be read..
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Where did you get the numbers?
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@StackedCrooked I found the ending to be a bit unsatisfying.
14:22
@Xeo needs moar ponies
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit The other deleted answer is better.
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"therefore you will have a memory invasion"
we like to pretend Java doesn't have Generics
@Xeo Yeah. The "key" was killed and we don't get to see how his relation with Kotori ends up being.
No real answers.
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14:23
Ya
Lucias is much better
Chihayas and Akanes are great too.
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Be prepared to question yourself "wtf happens to the other heroines?!", because you won't get any infos on them in the other routes, really. :/
I think Chihaya would be a more logical choice for a second route, but I'm curious about Lucia's. So..
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14:25
@StackedCrooked Both kinda work, although I had Shizuru second - bad choice
lol, the C++ tag wiki shows as "unknown"
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Q: What is the meaning of this syntax, relating to c++

user2204993return int_length(len > 0 ? len : 1) what is the meaning of the syntax in the brackets, I keep getting confused when reading this code. thanks

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Shizuru's Ending becomes much more bearable after Chihaya's
Look at all the easy questions we're missing
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14:26
@Magtheridon96 There are <stopped counting> stolen upvotes in there.
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Hm, just ~8k characters for the ref-qualifier answer.
stolen upvotes?
gufarmo admiration failed too
Someone should create a library so that we can program android in c++
Ugh.
(Also, NDK)
14:28
Doesnt NDK allow you to do that?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Definitely. Also, when are you gonna start watching that show?
@EtiennedeMartel Around ... nevertime.
@EtiennedeMartel Perhaps the next time I have a case of my bollocks falling off.
14:29
@Borgleader If the NDK does not let you program Android in C++, wtf is it for?
So much prejudice.
@Raindrop gufarmo
I hope no one was expecting to develop whole Android applications in C++. It's painful enough to do it in Java.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well I was mostly sure thats what it was for hence the question mark.
14:31
@Borgleader Oh. The lack of apostrophe fooled my eyes into thinking it was "Does".
The NDK is for not having to write that much Java to make C++ stuff run on Android.
I wonder if we still have some Java in the engine...
Let me check.
Do any people use Objective-C willingly?
Yes.
The world is a crazy place.
Hmm. No Java there.
Well, I guess it is possible to Android stuff using only C++.
@EtiennedeMartel Since you said "engine" above... I guess it's some sort of library with no interaction with the UI stuffs?
14:40
aren't objective c and c++ the same?
Objective-C is more like [instance method] while C++ is like instance.method()
whats the difference?
14:41
Objective-C is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike C++.
@ThePhD /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes This is my half-assed reflection attempt (so far). I don't know why it compiles under VS but not on ideone.
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette They are two different languages
and in Objective-C, you have to name the arguments you're passing with labels and shit
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a game engine. Any graphical stuff is done with OpenGL ES.
lol whats the point? why not just use c++?
is OC more powerful?
14:42
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Why not just use assembler?
@Borgleader It compiles on VS because broken two-phase lookup.
@millennium Machine code?
OC is more Jimmy Proof
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette It's different.
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Different languages call for different uses.
14:43
because you can call methods that don't exist and Jimmy wouldn't know because OC is a secretive and manipulative language
Don't try to put stuff like that in a linear scale.
@R.MartinhoFernandes The the-phase lookup is broken in VS or gcc?
@Borgleader In VS.
But is there really anything c++ can't do that OC could? C++ is pretty versitile
@Borgleader As always.
14:43
It's a well-known very old bug.
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette The question is not if you can do something. It's that if it's easy to do so.
It doesn't make correct code fail compilation, but it allows lots and lots of illformed code.
I kinda want to learn Objective C now .____.
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@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Difference between languages aren't necessarily difference in possibilities.
I'm no expert on Objective-C. But language wars are silly.
14:44
@milleniumbug what is something that's easier in OC?
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Hopefully that will change soon after you start.
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it difficult to learn?
> With your interest and knowledge in software development with C++/CX, XAML and WinRT, I would like to bring to your notice that Packt has recently published an exciting book Mastering Windows 8 C++ App Development
It's not difficult to learn, it's just ugly
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh... and which part of that is illformed?
14:45
@CatPlusPlus Packt publishing is crap.
They asked me to write a book about something I never heard before.
then again, "not difficult to learn" is not really helpful because Jimmies are everywhere
> Furthermore, we are also looking forward to host contest/Giveaways on prominent websites, preferably with a PR of 4 or more.
:laugh:
@Magtheridon96 jimmie?
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette As I said - I don't know Objective-C.
I don't know why they want me to review stuff on my blog, when I don't have a blog.
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Jimmy is an imaginary person we use when we want to refer to the stupidest users for a given tool
@CatPlusPlus It's spam.
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@Magtheridon96 I learned something there. I might be a Jimmy sometimes
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@JBL We're all Jimmies on the inside <3
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@Magtheridon96 Abusing logic, we would all be strictly equal. As in "the stupidest" implies a ranking.
@JBL The definition of Jimmy is not Jimmy proof ;.;
@CatPlusPlus I would be interested by that if i didnt have 186 games on steam of which i only finished 30
BUY BUY BUY
14:51
I would love to make an indie game but alas, I have no artistic ability. :X
Jun 11 at 11:22, by R. Martinho Fernandes
> Given your experience on this technology, I was wondering if you would be interested in authoring this particular Instant title.
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@CatPlusPlus Gog competes with Steam to steal money from my wallet with me completely fine with it.
@Magtheridon96 Is it a Jimmy who came up with the term "Jimmy" ?
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Jun 11 at 11:26, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@BartekBanachewicz I have no idea what ITK is, but apparently I answered a question vaguely related to it once and got a total of zero upvotes.
They just trawl SO and them spam people.
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@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette You can still make an ASCII game, requires next to no artistic ability.
This is me and Jerry. The iphone sucks in low lighting. But since Jerry will be around for another week or so, we'll try to get a better picture over the weekend.
user image
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14:52
Oh damn!
@JBL I know but..thats not very exciting
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@Mysticial Wow, I thought he would look older.
lol so blurry you two almost looked alike ... in a good way :)
Jimmy is terrible
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@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Indeed. You can still find some free content (as long as the author are right with you using it) like Sprites, 3D meshes, etc, but it's probable that it won't be consistent :x
14:55
What about getting an artist for like a CO op type of thing?
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Q: converting a floating point number upto 2 precision to 6 precision

user2509370#include<stdio.h> int main() { float f=43.20,d=43.25; printf("%f %f",f,d); return 0; } Here the output comes out to be 43.200001 43.250000 why the output is coming out to be 43.200001 and not 43.200000 .

I was writing an answer that explains the structure of IEEE 754 floats
then H2CO3 discouraged me from continuing ;_;
Why did that question get voted down 2? It seems reasonable :P
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@Magtheridon96 It's that time of the day.
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette It's too overasked
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14:57
@Magtheridon96 H2CO3 discourages a lot of persons.
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@Mysticial I somehow imagined you with long hair. Don't ask why.
@EtiennedeMartel I do -- the blurring covers up my age (somewhat).
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@Mysticial Who's who ?
What needs to be understood before a person should start researching malware development?
@JesseTylerThompsonUmoette Primarily that it's a fairly pointless thing to research.
14:58
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A: converting a floating point number upto 2 precision to 6 precision

MBSComputer use binary numbers, so when it code 43.2 for exemple in float, he can't exactly code 43.2 ( he use a base of (2^n) to code it (n can be negative) ) and that's why when he read it, and so he make the inverse conversion: there he get 43.200001.

dat grammar
@Xeo You thought you could hit on me? :P
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lolno
I'd like to hit on your computers, though
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@Griwes Wat ? I don't even...

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