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8:00 PM
@thecoshman So? "Not MySQL" is alternative to MySQL.
Just like "not PHP" is alternative to PHP.
 
user142019
NoMySQL
 
And PostgreSQL is fairly obvious.
 
@ScottW TIL
 
ok @rightfold I finished ACO, worked on first try :3 I can give you the code if you are interested
 
user142019
8:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Nice. :D
 
user142019
(Seriously I have no idea what ACO actually is. I just looked up the term on Wikipedia.)
 
it probably could find a better solution, but 6.01 is actually pretty decent score
 
@BartekBanachewicz there's girls in your picture
 
@BartekBanachewicz lrn2alt-prtscrn =p
 
@BartekBanachewicz And what's the algo you are implementing?
 
@Code-Guru ACO, Ant Colony Optimization, and thank god already done with it
I actually lied because I fixed that example a bit
changed some C arrays to array and vector
 
@BartekBanachewicz Are you applying it to some particular problem or just implementing the generic algo?
 
Ugh MFC
 
hmm
if I build a VS addin, how the fuck am I going to get Intellisense or someshit for the C++ parts I include from Wide at compiler run-time that VS doesn't support?
 
8:15 PM
@Code-Guru it's Traveling Salesman Problem (I thought that should be apparent)
@DeadMG there should be an API for that
@CatPlusPlus not my choice either
@StackedCrooked I personally see a dragon
@Code-Guru it's more funny that way
 
@DeadMG Query Clang?
 
@DeadMG VS addin? what a cop out. I wanna see wIDE
 
@Flexo wow. What do you really want to do with that?
 
@melak47 I've been looking into it and there don't really seem to be any ready-baked components, and I'd be reinventing so many wheels
 
Ell
@DeadMG Write an eclipse thing
 
8:20 PM
srsly, you could have just written "trollface".
 
Ell
Man. That's like my second bin ever xD
Yeah I wasn't expecting it to come out so big :L
 
There seems to be nothing to do.
 
Ell
@Rapptz as always - fap
 
Hm.. nah.
 
Ell
Have a soirée
 
8:29 PM
contribute to Wide
 
Ell
What needs doing?
Do you have a todo?
 
yay
I've configured outer apache on candybox
 
@BartekBanachewicz Makes sense. Might have thought of that if I had given it enough thought ;-)
 
wow TIL that VBox supports remote USB
 
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8:43 PM
hehe cool
I can now restart my VM via web interface
amazing what you can do with technology these days
 
Ell
^
that made me chuckle
I never expect that to come out of a programmers mouth
 
heh, I believe I've used it already
anyway Candybox is 20% cooler with what I added
I could create and deploy a new virtual server in few clicks via www
 
Xeo
Hi
 
@BartekBanachewicz do they take payment in lollipops?
 
@melak47 I think Tony would prefer beer
 
8:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz how much customisation do you get with these VMs? and what VMs are they?
 
@thecoshman I have just one now, 64 bit ubuntu server
but we're on less than 50% of RAM ATM
so you could squeeze two more
 
does it just deploy a new VM, or can you choose to deploy say a windows VM, or give it your own ISO?
 
the best thing is that I can do and restore snapshots via www :3
@thecoshman I can give it my iso
 
that is nice :P
 
just like normal VBox does
 
8:58 PM
nice
 
@BartekBanachewicz Almost like AWS.
 
oh also I can clone machines I believe
@CatPlusPlus yeah
 
Check out Vagrant.
 
@CatPlusPlus hm, whole environment you say
well I don't think I really need this at current point, but might come in handy in the future
we have similar system at work
 
Xeo
> You have 1.622450292255897e+117 lollipops!
 
9:00 PM
but it's focused on setting up proper graphics driver obviously
and all i know it's written in python and works most of the time
 
@Xeo I think you should spend them before you overflow :P
 
user142019
Hmm.
 
user142019
I came to the point where I want to parse function calls.
 
I wonder if I should screencast my django app i will be writing now
 
Xeo
@thecoshman I thought the candy count would've long overflown, but eh, apparently not.
 
9:09 PM
meh, that would be even more boring than a videogame
 
@Xeo meh
@BartekBanachewicz no
if anything, write up a tutorial sort of thing
 
@ScottW I'm just watching a movie cutie <3
 
one day I will settle into a default naming convention
 
@thecoshman meh, django tutorial is good enuff imho
 
Ell
@thecoshman my naming convention is messed up
it's a mixture of PascalCase and snake_case
 
9:29 PM
My convention is default for whatever language I'm writing.
 
:O I just trod on my little catty :(
 
Hey people
 
hey person.
 
hey men/women
 
Are there even any women here?
Are women smart enough to program?
That is the question.
 
9:32 PM
Get out.
 
yeah, GTFO
 
lol.
 
@Cygwinnian You obviously have never meet a woman before :/
 
@gregcons, rural Ontario
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you are probably like 0.01% of her.
 
@Cygwinnian Can you guess who Ada language is named after?
 
9:34 PM
Ada Lovelace
She was sexy
It's just my job is a complete sausage fest
 
Ell
that's why you throw hot tub parties/bunga bunga
 
In my life, I've never met a female who was a programmer
and I feel like I'm missing out.
 
crap, I can't change border size in XFCE
I never can resize the damn window because it's too thin
 
@Cygwinnian I am sure you probably have not meet a black man, or an Egyptian guy who is a programmer, so depending on your analogy, black people, and Egyptians are not smart enough to be programmer too. ??
 
my Windows windows have huge borders just for that
 
9:40 PM
@BartekBanachewicz see, if you used win8, you wouldn't have that problem! :p
 
@melak47 fuck windows 8
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz use the grabber in the bottom right?
 
@bluethief Oh, I've met a black and an Egyptian guy. And they were programmers.
But they weren't women
 
Ell
or alt + right click & drag to resize
 
@Ell it's too small anyway
 
Ell
9:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz even the triangle thing?
 
night chaps :D
 
Bah, XFCE. Use i3.
 
iwhat? :o
 
@Ell i don't have "the triangle thing"
@melak47 tiling WM
i might give it a try
 
how are you gonna resize windows with that :p
 
9:47 PM
Hello! :)) @EtiennedeMartel
 
user142019
Fuuuuuck.
 
Damn, I always thought GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving was the future.
 
@melak47 with keyboard
just like you do with vim
 
Xeo
So, my Flashplayer is crashing because the Youtube video is loading too fast for 720p.
 
@Xeo Welcome to the world of tomorrow!
 
9:57 PM
Video streaming sucks
or rather
video streaming players suck
 
wow I can change the CPU Quota at runtime in VBox
 
pressing fullscreen causes player to drop its buffer? No thanks.
 
Only when it changes source file.
 
@Cygwinnian I have met several highly-skilled female developers, but then again, far fewer than there should be. The reason for the sex bias remains an enigma. Software engineering does not require any great physical prowess, (apart from very occasional 'shove heavy server into rack' type things). Software seems to be in the 'reverse parking' and 'use a roundabout correctly' category of activity :)
 
10:16 PM
TIL Turing was homosexual.
@MartinJames I've yet to meet any black software engineers.
So far, I have literally been the only one. =[
Maybe I'll find some at Google or Amazon.
 
@ThePhD I worked briefly with a sex-changer at Nortel. She, (used to be he), was attractive and competent.
@ThePhD You need to change jobs more often :) There are a few knocking about, not many. Another enigma.
 
Yeah. =/
I've gotta go hunting.
 
Are men even smart enough to program?
I don't think anyone is :(
 
@Pubby Yeah - 'I can write apps that work 100%' is one of those unattainable goal things - you always die before you get there :)
 
Unless you use Haskell.
 
10:32 PM
@ThePhD He was chemically castrated for it (homosexuality was a crime back then) despite the fact that his codebreaking efforts were war-winning for the Allies in many ways.
 
@CatPlusPlus Maybe. If only Haskell, (or any other language/environment), could reach out and generate accurate requirements from the brains of customers:)
 
his subsequent suicide is an embarassment and a massive loss to all humanity
 
@DeadMG =[ Fuck humanity.
 
@DeadMG ACK.
 
Ell
Yeah I am totally ashamed for what Britain did to Turing, its an absolute abomination
I know I didn't do it, but still I feel totally embarrassed
Also I need to get me some massage oil
 
10:34 PM
@Ell One of a long line of fuckups.
 
@ThePhD Yup. Just a couple years after the Turing Machine, and his use of it for the utter annihilation of all the German encryption.
 
..and I was referring to Turing, not the massage oil:)
 
the Nazis never successfully landed a single spy in the UK, we turned them all, because we knew they were coming.
 
Ell
@martin haha yeah I figured
You look back at it and think, what the fuck was going through the peoples minds that did that to him
This is a guy who is helping to win the war, does that not plainly show there is nothing wrong with him?
 
actually
he was a complete nutter
but not dangerous or criminal (by our standards today) or anything like that
just very eccentric and off-the-rails
probably why he was so fucking smart
 
10:39 PM
@DeadMG Our encryption, (for most highly secret stuff), was better because we had no machine encryption for most of the war, forcing us to fall back on inconvenient, but unbreakable, one-time pads.
 
@MartinJames Yeah, no TM can break an OTP. The Enigma, on the other hand...
was helped a lot by finding a German codebook, though
 
Ell
I forgot how otp works
 
Random key as long as the message, used only one time
 
it's unbreakable as long as the random keys are genuinely random (Russia forgot this once and got some of their messages partially decoded)
but there are quite a few issues with using OTPs
you need 1 bit of OTP per bit of message, which is massive compared to an asymmetric scheme like RSA
and the OTP itself has to be pre-arranged and stored somewhere by both sender and receiver
 
> I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity
ahahaha
 
10:56 PM
huh
turns out I won a game of Mafia and I didn't even realize I was playing
 
how do you not realize you're playing a game?
 
well, you join the lobby, then you alt+tab to read some articles, and then you miss the popup that tells you the game started
 
hahahah
so I'm glad that @BartekBanachewicz is making good use of my spare box. Better than it getting dusty. :)
 
lol
 
> You have eaten 607676 candies!
well, I'm eating lots of candies
 
11:04 PM
=[
I wish my game didn't erase iself.
 
> what is the only thing to go
beyond the limits of our
universe ?
 
@TonyTheLion Spare box?
 
what is the answer?
 
the answer
 
hahaah
how did I not spot that
@ThePhD the one that has been under my desk for a year and mostly switched off
 
11:06 PM
Ooh.
You shoulda sent it to me. =[
I coulda given it to people who have shitty computers and cant' even play basic games, yo.
 
I didn't send it to anyone
Its still here, I just gave him access to it
I'm letting him use it
 
Oooh.
Well, I could actually use a box like that, actually.
 
Have you installed Perforce or Team Foundation Server on it, by any chance? <3
 
11:10 PM
I need to test my hand-written utility that converts TFS repos to Perforce ones.
 
I don't have any of these pieces of software
 
I was so sick of going through external utilities and other nonsense that I ended up deciding to just write my own C# utilities.
And, aww. Okay. :c
 
TFS is for businesses, which is one thing I'm not
 
True...
I wish I had listened to Cat earlier and purcahsed that Kimsomething Servr
Then I'd be able to do my own test stuff and not worry about shit.
 
Kimsomething?
 
11:13 PM
I don't remember the whole name. :D
 
Kimdotcom? xD
 
Haha, I wish. :P
@Borgleader How's the engine going, btw?
Also, it's so refreshing to do all the work by myself again. <3
Fuck teammates.
 
Right now I'm looking at doing reflection in C++
also I dropped the design by Intel, I'm going to work off of the suggestions given in "Game Engine Architecture" instead
 
Ahh.
Very smart choice.
I'm kind of building my own hybrid from all the sources I read. <3
 
:)
I'm probably going to start playing with Unity and CryEngine to get a feel for how they're engineered
I have a bit of experience with UDK
 
11:17 PM
UDK is quite nice.
I'm tired of 3D, though.
It's really wearing on me.
 
UDK has really nice tools for artists, but god damn their codebase is shit
 
Heh.
 
Their inheritance tree is fucking huge
So many bools everywhere and half of them dont do anything
 
Almost all commercial interfaces for artist tools and game programming are atrocious.
I think XNA did the best job of making an end-to-end framework, but then again they also hid a lot of things from people and blew up a lot of functionality, so if you wanted anything deeper you had to either milk the framework or throw it out altogether...
I haven't gotten a chance to dive into the codebases at work just yet,
but there's a horrible feeling in my stomach it's going to be C++99/03 nightmareland.
 
Hehe
 
user142019
11:20 PM
Sehe
 
Tehe
 
user142019
if (c == '#') {
    do {
        c = readChar();
    } while (c != '\n');
}
 
user142019
I use this for ignoring comments but it doesn't work. :<
 
Define "doesn't work"
 
user142019
Still getting a parse error. xd
 
user142019
11:25 PM
Oh, I see.
 
user142019
I need to skip whitespace after the comment too, duh.
 
user142019
if (c == '#') {
    do c = readChar(); while (c != '\n');
    return readToken();
}
 
user142019
Whoop whoop whoop.
 
I see distinct lack of monads in this parser.
 
Ell
I see a distinct lack of monoids in this parser
 
11:28 PM
@ThePhD Kimsufi
 
Ell
I see a distinct lack of endofunctors in this parser
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah, yes. That was it.
The minute I get my first paycheck, buying Kimsufi and testing all kinds of version control solutions.
 
Git, and you don't really need a server for that.
Well, or Mercurial.
 
Well, personally I'm probably going to always use Mercurial.
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus I could do that.
 
11:30 PM
So far I haven't had an issue with a centralized Mercuriaul repo (but I've been the only one working on my stuff for a while now anyhow).
 
Ell
If you use git you could have a gitlab server
Basically Open source github
 
user142019
It wouldn't be too much of a pain either to implement because D's delegates don't suck as much as lambdas in C++ and D has lazy.
 
Ell
Which means you can have private repo for cost of hosting gitlab
 
The reason I want to install Perforce, TFS, Git, and Mercurial all on my machine is so that I can test a Perforce <-> TFS ( and, <-> Git <-> Mercurial later maybe) sync/migration tool.
 
I want to do a server with bunch of SSO-integrated services some day.
 
11:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus SSO-integrated?
 
small string optimization, obviously
 
One username/password for all, and possibly even same auth cookie and stuff.
 
ooh
Single-Session-SOmething
I forgot the last word
 
Single sign-on.
 
Oh.
Nevermind~
Well, hey. If my game development goes well, I could use something like that~
@ScottW Oh god, finally! What took you so long <333
 
11:33 PM
We could do Loungeland
 
@CatPlusPlus I actually would love doing that, but right now it's called "BoltClock v. The World"
Really, I'm just taking what people say in this lounge and their characteristics, exaggerating them, and putting them into a fun beat 'em up. :D
 
I mean wiki, mail, XMPP, VCS and other stuff for Lounge regulars. Or something.
 
user142019
Damn.
 
Are you drunk?
 
@CatPlusPlus That'd actually be pretty sweet. :O
 
11:35 PM
and IRC chat? :P
 
@ThePhD I wanted to do an RPG like that.
 
SSO across all those services, then?
 
XMPP MUC!
 
Lol, loungeland could become our CV's and Resumes.
www.loungeland.com/CatPlusPlus <--- would put on my resume.
 
loungecpp.me
 
11:37 PM
Leisure Suite Boltclock in the land of the Lounge Lizards
 
loungecpp.me/Friendship // Etienne's Handle
 
Actually .me is not as expensive as I thought it'd be.
 
@ScottW :)
 
I thought domains outside of .com, .biz, .gov, etc. were a lot cheaper?
 
Popular gimmick TLDs tend to be fucking expensive.
 
11:39 PM
Ooh.
Well .ly is probably expensive as fuck right now.
 
@CatPlusPlus But how will Tuvalu survive otherwise?
 
I think the prices are going down or something.
Except .nf and .ki which is 1000€ for registration.
For some reason.
Who the fuck buys that.
Jesus.
 
I can't even imagine words
that'd work that well with those extensions.
 
iamrichandbought.nf
 
Hahaha.
True enough. :P
 
user142019
11:43 PM
@ThePhD You cannot buy a .gov domain unless you have an infinite amount of money.
 
.gov.uk is only about 100€
 
user142019
 
@ThePhD I got .co.uk for pretty cheap
 
Non-gimmick domains are almost free now.
 
user142019
Why is it .co.uk and not just .uk?
 
11:44 PM
I can't remember how much I pay for my domain
 
no idea
 
Reasons.
 
^ best response evar.
 
user142019
.nl is best TLD.
 
11:45 PM
co stands for "commercial".
So it's general use subTLD.
 
user142019
I hate commercials.
 
.com is commercial
 
You can't register domains directly under .uk
 
I used to think .com was some higher TLD then all other TLD's
 
user142019
11:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus I'm sure you can.
 
Nope.
 
user142019
If you have an infinite amount of money you can buy anything.
 
Can you have something like .c++ as a domain ending?
Or are ++ special HTML characters and fuck the goddamn stupid web and its shitty text-for-all-transfers.
</rage>
 
HTML is not very relevant.
I don't remember if + is valid in domain labels.
Probably not.
 
Don't think so.
 
user142019
11:48 PM
 
Letters, numbers, hyphen.
Though it could be possible with IDN I don't know.
 
@ThePhD The only top-level domains (TLDs) like .com, .uk, etc., that can exist are those approved by ICANN.
 
Well that's separate issue.
 
@JerryCoffin Ooh. Is it possible to do something outside of ICANN?
 
You can run your own DNS hierarchy if you want.
 
11:54 PM
I think there are since there are some domains that are outside of the US.
 
No, ICANN has authority over the root zone.
 
I was under the impression that outside of being delegated that cctlds don't have the control of the US government but I guess not.
 
ICANN is not part of US government.
 
Then how come the US can revoke domains?
 
Because it's US?
 
11:58 PM
strictly, ICANN is neutral
but in reality, it appears to be basically part of the US government
 
Private and public trackers move domains to go outside of US jurisdiction. Which is why I thought no pirating site has a .com, .net, et al domain.
 
Several TLDs are ran by US entities.
But that's not ICANN either.
 
Why do so many people have PHP experience?
 

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