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5:00 PM
there's lots of jobs here, even if most suck
 
Yeah, in Rennes, Nantes and Lannion. It's harder to find a job in Brest.
 
Oh I meant paris
 
Paris, the city where dreams go to die.
 
Oh, sorry.
 
5:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol, that's horrible, why
@EtiennedeMartel montréal?
 
Bin quin.
(ça veut dire oui)
 
Press Your Luck®
 
Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?® - An award-winning tool used at Ludia to vet potential employees.
My coffee didn't quite turn out proper. :(
 
@EtiennedeMartel too cold
 
Chochotte.
 
5:11 PM
Too not in Brest.
 
@Morwenn Uh, someone who needs a specific sort for performance reasons?
 
@caps They could pick the algorithm in the appropriate file and add it to their project instead of introducing a whole new dependency.
 
@Morwenn Sure, but even that use would make your library more than just a toy, right?
 
5:17 PM
@caps Most of the usable algorithms have been stolen or are trivially reimplementable.
 
user1804599
@slaphappy Then I was mistaken.
 
@caps Let's say that it's a beautifully crafted toy.
 
user3790646
@sehe Thanks, it's working, and I don't know why, aha puu.sh/mCZts/fbe7b5e14f.png
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
lol
 
user3790646
5:22 PM
@MadameElyse Is this Donald Trump? :P
 
@Andrey Can't be. This comb-over is barely over 5 feet long.
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ROOOOOOOBBOOOOOTTTTT
 
@Andrey down
 
user1804599
> We must openly call for the establishment of a Kurdish state that separates Iran from Turkey
 
user1804599
5:26 PM
what are kurds
 
Today, in "Radek Discovers the World"
 
@MadameElyse An ethny
 
user1804599
oh people sharing a certain culture
 
@EtiennedeMartel what's this i-slam and why is apple causing problems?
 
lol
that bangalore girl really does not want to grant me access to the admin repo
 
5:32 PM
@slaphappy why did you change your nickname
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Today in "My Generation Didn't Explain This to Radek"
 
@milleniumbug to throw off my stalkers
 
user1804599
Where is kbok, btw?
 
Right above your message.
 
kbok died in a [...] accident.
 
5:36 PM
slapping accident
 
user1804599
Lounge<C++>
 
@milleniumbug lol
 
user3790646
wow ;-; I send a screenshot from puush to a friend of mine... Just to him... After a few hours I looked at how many people viewed the screenshot... 5...
 
user1804599
> ~/projects % mkdir _
 
user1804599
oh boy
 
5:37 PM
@Andrey scrapers and chat protocols that are not end-to-end encrypted
 
Xeo
uh-oh
my internet's dying on me
 
Xeo
shit's not loading
 
lol
I have to migrate a repository from svn to git
 
Xeo
also, buddy (who's living below me) also says his internet's dying
that can't be good
 
5:39 PM
Of course the guys used their internal login (a single number like 5841236) as authors in svn
 
good job
I never used any other version control system other than git
 
since half of them quit/were fired by now, the directory refuses to show info about those logins
I have to go sleuthing around to rebuild the database
 
in my work place we use VSS
 
what, for real? rip
 
Xeo
SourceGrave
 
5:45 PM
RANT { I met a project manager yesterday, it was a quick meeting.. he was like showing me a pool filled with crocodiles & telling me that I have to swim through it, then patting my back & while I was shocked of the poorly made design document, he was saying "and by the way we need it done in like 2 weeks or so" }
 
anyone else having issues with msys being complete garbage?
 
Ell
lol I love this i.imgur.com/OmSfiQh.png (from r/programmerhumor)
11
 
MSYS2 is way better than MSYS
 
Or don't use MSYS.
 
it's bundled with git for windows
inb4 dontusewindows
 
5:57 PM
what's git for windows
I used to use git bundled with msys2 (back when I was using Windows for development)
 
Don't use MSYS
Unless you really have to
@milleniumbug Git, built for Windows
 
I don't know which version I have but it blows
0 [main] sh.exe" 9440 proc_subproc: Couldn't duplicate my handle<0xC4> for pid 6404, Win32 error 5
  15365 [main] sh.exe" 9440 fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 0 failed, 0x48C000..0x491718, done 0, windows pid 6404, Win32 error 5
C:\Program Files (x86)\Git/libexec/git-core\git-filter-branch: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
I'm getting tons of those
 
kill all the sh processes and restart or sth
 
user1804599
Walter Bright is great.
 
TIL he was on the Boeing 757 design team.
 
user1804599
He's a bright guy.
 
@fredoverflow ~~professional~~
 
Are you doubting Walter's professionalability?
 
6:26 PM
@slaphappy Rebase.
 
Ell
> i3-sensible-terminal could not find a terminal emulator. Please install one.
good job I ahve one open :V
 
set $TERMINAL variable to the name of the terminal emulator you use
 
Ell
> /dev/null is not a device file
uh oh
I got a bad feelin about dis.
 
impressive
You better prepare your backups
 
Ell
Yup
fixed
that was extremely bizarre
my /dev/null became a regular file somehow
who'd have thought spawning a terminal relied on /dev/null also
 
6:37 PM
You have an unnatural talent for breaking Linux
 
Almost everything relies on /dev/null
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I don't even know how it happened mayn
@milleniumbug why?
Not putting output anywhere is equivalent to putting it to /dev/null
 
Not if you need that as a file descriptor
 
Ell
either way
 
Is it bad that I force users to use std::greater<> instead of std::greater<T>?
 
Ell
6:41 PM
I don't know what caused /dev/null to become a regular file
 
user1804599
@Morwenn Yes.
 
@Morwenn It may or may not, depending on your audience
 
The library doesn't compile anyway without an almost full C++14 support.
 
Well, if I could avoid such requirement, I'd do so.
 
I wouldn't unless I got paid to
 
6:44 PM
yes, but you're a cat
 
It's more that allowing std::greater<T> requires an insane amount of work in some places so I prefer to totally drop it instead of offering partial support for it.
 
Then drop it
 
Especially since std::greater<> is terser and doesn't have any drawback I'm aware of (well ok, it is not required to have a total order for pointers but there is a DR to fix that).
 
6:58 PM
so how's everyone doing this evening
 
Not sure.
 
did you go to the interview
 
Yeah, I think I did well.
 
cool
 
But I learnt that there are 5 other persons trying to get the job.
And if I am selected there will be a 3rd interview next week -___-
 
Ell
7:02 PM
I think I'm going to have to crack open the vodka this evening
 
@Morwenn don't wanna sounds like an asshole but... what do you go dressed as at an interview
 
@AlexM. Sweatshirt and jeans, just like the people interviewing me.
 
I meant if you crossdress like you seem you like to do
 
Haha, no way.
 
good call
 
7:05 PM
I hardly ever crossdress.
Even on my profile picture I'm not crossdressing. I'm wearing a wig but that's pretty much it.
 
> A man and a small child walk into a deep dark forest. "Dad," the child says.
"I'm scared." "You're scared?" the man scoffs. "I've got to walk back this way on my own!"
 
GCC 6 report: +30 P1 regessions.
 
@sehe This is terrible, but it made me chuckle all the same.
 
Courtesy imgur
 
@Morwenn sounds terrible, but first I'll check what "P1" means
 
7:14 PM
Blockers. GCC 6 will be released when there are no P1 regressions anymore.
 
ah, it's "Priority 1"
 
Yep.
The number jumped from 3 to 33 with today's report.
 
Ell
@Morwenn ouchie
 
At least they fixed 103 P3 issues since the last report.
> The --enable-default-pie configure option enables generation of PIE by default.
Tasty compiler options.
 
Hey guys! Quick question about templates in C++ if anyone is available
What's the expected behavior of template parameter if you have a function like:
 
7:20 PM
we are not available
go back to stack overflow
 
I think I found an exercise bike that looks good and is currently 50% off
 
template <class T> f(T x) and f(double x) if we pass in a double as well?
 
@sehe Ah thank you - I didn't see anything on stack overflow(I wasn't sure what to search for)
 
Somebody decided they don't love me anymore i.imgur.com/F8pKjBp.png
 
7:24 PM
Saw some links on cppreference but wasn't sure which one was addressing my problem(mountains of text)
 
@sehe Sad sad world.
 
@OneRaynyDay It's order of overload resolution (template vs non-template). Usually, calling things by their proper name leads to the right search. No harm in asking, but next time you could phrase the question in that direction ("What should I search for if I want to understand this?" "What's the name of the mechanism that decides which function gets invoked here?").
 
@sehe Ah, apologies - thanks for the heads up man
 
@sehe Somehow I can't laugh at that one...
 
I'm sorry
 
7:28 PM
@OneRaynyDay I've had a lot of trouble with these rules not acting like I expect also. (cc @Sehe)
 
@sehe I knew the "12 years old and in my basement" variant.
 
Ell
@sehe made me lol
 
@Morwenn Abuse of new detected
 
Ell
Here is another one
 
7:29 PM
@sehe Still not sure whether I mistyped or misbrained.
 
@OneRaynyDay I wasn't actually trying to blame! Apologies not needed. It's just that the lounge is weary of help vampires. I think the loung is a very good place for quick pointers like this. So if you make it clear you're not help vampiring this will help you get attention (even if I'm not around :))
4 messages moved to bin
 
Ell
Good idea :P
 
Let's keep a certain standard. The images don't index
 
Ell
@sehe Fair point
 
@sehe I feel like the rest should go too...
 
7:32 PM
I like how google fit logs stuff and I get nice graphs at the end
 
@caps It's a bit unclear what you mean by "the rest" now. I think it's just the one then. I found it funny, but let's not split hairs :)
 
Let's bin the whole lounge.
Bin<C++>
 
Actually... I have a mass-unbin script too
 
user406009
@Morwenn We the IRC for all the non-PC stuff.
 
@sehe Yes, just the one I suppose. Funny and appropriate to joke about are orthogonal.
 
7:34 PM
I see what you mean, but I don't separate the two that tightly. I can be shocked even when people are not joking, sometimes.
 
@sehe You don't separate them tightly?
 
...
> Food is kind of like dark humor. Not everyone gets it
 
Should be the other way around
 
Lets fight!
Imgur is not all bad. Some of them are gems i.imgur.com/QbLI90N.jpg worth repeating
2
 
7:52 PM
Today in "sehe discovers mainstream internet"
 
it's japanese but it's not weird
 
@AlexM. How can it be good then?
 
@Morwenn it sounds jazz-like
or w/e the genre is
 
Not fan of the vocals.
 
I love Japanese Jazz
 
7:58 PM
@Morwenn I can agree with that, I got used to them
 
Just like I got used to the vocals in Dir en Grey I guess.
 
here's some more japs trying to sing in english and doing better than average
 
@Xeo 4 hours of sleep is not fun ;~;
 
but still noticeably not-english-y
the band is B'z
no idea if the video shows the name
 
8:03 PM
> You will NOT learn OpenGL
You will NOT touch every topic of graphics
/cc @ElimGarak Professor is VERY serious about this not being about OpenGL, aha.
 
@Xeo damn what was that spike
my spike was me having to go to my degree prof which resulted in about ~2 hours of walking non stop
a quarter of which was me walking through the college because I couldn't find his classroom lol
 
Xeo
Wait, was yours calories burned?
 
@ElimGarak Monte Carlo is the most advanced form of raytracing right now, right? Maybe?
 
yea, isn't consumed == burned?
you consume calories = they go away
 
Xeo
consumed = intake
 
8:06 PM
right
yea mine was burning them
 
Xeo
So yeah, that spike wasn't me suddenly being super active or something, but rather, indulging in cheese cake :P
 
it's a bit scary when I look at it
if there was nothing actively pulling me out
like work or school
I'd just sit on my chair 24/24 at home
 
@AlexM. Of course not. You gain/lose weight if the intake is greater/less than what you use.
 
Xeo
Note that kcal burning is pretty inaccurate and a really gross (over) estimate, so yeah.
 
yea I don't look at the numbers too hard
I just use it as an indicator of how much I moved my ass each day
 
Xeo
8:09 PM
Having a job is nice for forcing you to go out. Living ~15mins away by foot is even nicer.
 
I walk 1 hr on my way back home from work, so I kinda cheat a bit because that's the goal google fit set for me and I reach it every day :P
 
Xeo
heh
 
I'd also walk towards work but I feel it being difficult waking up 1 hour earlier and going through -13 degs, at least for now
 
Xeo
that's why 15mins away is a nice spot
not too short, but also not long enough to make you dread it, in a way
 
back when I was in elementary I had a classmate who lived 10 seconds away from the school, everyone envied him for that lol
during the longer breaks he'd go home to play games
thug life
 
Xeo
8:13 PM
yeah, I had a friend like that too
twas awesome to just hang out at his place after school though
That guy is still one of my best friends to date
anyhow, time to head to bed. 4h of sleep are, as the derpstorm remarked, not particularly fun. Although I must admit, I haven't been nearly as tired in the afternoon as I expected.
 
@Xeo See, now you're all just being hurtful, reminding me how I never had any friends when I was in school. This is offensive hate speech!
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin He was the only friend I had in primary school vOv
 
@Xeo G'night.
 
@Xeo Niiiight.
 
@JerryCoffin hey, me neither, let's feel bad together
 
8:17 PM
@Xeo Oh, well I guess in that case... :-)
@AlexM. Misery may love company, but I don't love misery.
 
Xeo
btw Alex, play Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky. Good RPG with a nice combat system.
 
I wouldn't want to feel bad with you anyway, hmph
@Xeo I'll wishlist it for the next time it goes < 9 eur
thx
 
@Xeo For extra credit, abbreviate the name: "You need to play loh:tits"
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin yeah, the abbreviation is unfortunate
> The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Second Chapter
Total: 27,99€
I found First Chapter that good.
First game in a long time that I bought that was over 10 bucks
 
@ElimGarak All the time. Since I actually read all of it it takes a while
 
8:26 PM
@Xeo night
 
hmm
playin Skyrim, raid a bandit cave, kill the bandits, take their stuff, start chopping firewood
 
@AlexM. I have that for my work (5 m 21 s during summer, 5 m 55 s during winter) . My brother commutes in a big US city for 1 hour 45 each leg. He makes more money. I'm happier.
 
In mathematics, the finite element method (FEM) is a numerical technique for finding approximate solutions to boundary value problems for partial differential equations. It uses subdivision of a whole problem domain into simpler parts, called finite elements, and variational methods from the calculus of variations to solve the problem by minimizing an associated error function. Analogous to the idea that connecting many tiny straight lines can approximate a larger circle, FEM encompasses methods for connecting many simple element equations over many small subdomains, named finite elements, ...
@ElimGarak ^ It has begun ;~;
 
About the time I reached puberty, I was completely fascinated by Mandelbrot and other fractals. The abstract art along the constructed mountain ranges looked stunning in the paper full color print.
Now I have a new record amount of threads I've created. 1920*1080. for about 10 ms in total. Calculating the mandelbrot set on a simple nvidia 980 gpu.
 
> simple
> top of the line GPU
 
8:41 PM
about the time I reached puberty I was completely fascinated by role playing games :<
 
Mousewheel scroll seemed appropriate. It is zooming in to the doubles -300 in a matter of seconds =)
@ThePhD It not pedestrian nor top notch for cuda calculations.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Its the better than the average GPU
sure its not a quadro or wtv their general purpose line is called
but its top of the line for a graphics chip
 
it's top of the line for consumer grade GPUs
quadros & such are pro grade
I think for CUDA you want tesla
not quadro
you may want to ping @ElimGarak for confirmation because I suck
 
I do apologize for describing my GPU intended for calculations and entertainment as simple. It is a single slot card working hard. Sometimes hardly working.
I got it quite recently, I'm curious if that is part of the controversy. Is it mitigating if my work laptop has a ten year anniversary this June?
 
8:50 PM
Yo bitches
How is business?
 
@CaptainGiraffe I think the "controversy" is just from describing a relatively new, roughly top of the line (or at least a line) card as "simple".
 
user1804599
@Shoe Very good.
 
@AlexM. oh right, i meant tesla
i think
yeah tesla, quadro is graphics
 
@JerryCoffin Well the few million threads may or may not have disqualified the SB16 compatible chipsets. Still an almost year old GPU can't be that exotic.
 
it isn't because the 980 ti exists
then there's the titans :P
 
user1804599
@sehe Everybody wants to be happy by definition.
 
@MadameElyse That is a bold statement.
 

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