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6:00 PM
In what language?
 
It's an extinct medieval letter.
German used it.
 
By the way, there should be a modifier for rotating letters
 
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ß comes from it.
 
user1804599
Scheiße!
 
6:01 PM
What irks me is that in this font it renders with a small dash to the left (by design) and that makes it clear it's not a J.
 
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user1804599
Cabbage Collector.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :c
 
Yes
This is how I see it
Or this, without bold weight
 
6:05 PM
Yeah the dash depends on the font, but it's normal.
The long, medial, or descending s (ſ) is a form of the minuscule letter s, which was formerly used where s occurred in the middle or at the beginning of a word (e.g. "ſinfulneſs" "sinfulness"). The modern letterform was called the terminal, round, or short s. == History == The long s was derived from the old Roman cursive medial s. When the distinction between majuscule (uppercase) and minuscule (lowercase) letter forms became established, toward the end of the eighth century, it developed a more vertical form. During this period, it was occasionally used at the end of a word, a practice that...
 
But shouldn't it be the same font?
Or do you have a custom font for this page?
 
@Rob Kennedy I already explained the difference in my preceding comment. It seems you simply do not know C. — Vlad from Moscow 31 mins ago
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ not necessarily the same. If one of us is missing the preferred font in the CSS, he will get the second preferred and so on.
Pretty sure this is not Verdana.
 
It's a Microsoft font and this is Android.
 
6:08 PM
I see: font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; though
 
You're on a Mac, right?
With MS Office installed by any chance?
Anyway, Android doesn't ship Arial either.
It's one of the default system fonts.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes
@R.MartinhoFernandes No
 
You probably get Arial.
 
Does look like it.
 
6:13 PM
I'm sure I have Verdana though
 
Ah, Montreal.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I would be surprised if you do without some Microsoft software installed.
Maybe Microsoft licensed it to Apple, lol
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ do you also have the font Consolaggio?
 
Interesting.
 
6:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's under the category "Web" in there
 
@yerɟɟɟeſ tee hee
 
Verdana got me through university. It's a gigantic font.
 
Not as gigantic as your mum
 
Oh. MS made it freeware.
Google sucks.
 
@AlexM. Only Fuckuaggio
 
6:19 PM
lolaggio
 
Where does the "aggio" suffix come from by the way?
 
no idea
 
user1804599
From agar.io.
 
it just sounds italian
so I use it
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You should know, it's Italian.
 
6:22 PM
Formaggio?
 
== Italian == === Etymology === From Latin -āticum. === Pronunciation === IPA(key): /ˈad͡ːʒo/, [ˈad.d͡ʒo] Rhymes: -addʒo Hyphenation: -àg‧gio === Suffix === -aggio -age; forms nouns indicating an action or result related to the root verb. montare ‎(“to assemble”) > montaggio ‎(“assembly”) ==== Derived terms... ====
Interesting.
 
Xeo
gah, I hate this "cup" unit of measurement. Gimme ml or grams, fuckers :|
 
So it's used to noun a verb.
 
So like -age in French.
@Xeo one cup is half a pint.
 
Chier -> chiage.
 
6:24 PM
See? Simple.
 
Xeo
Doesn't change my point.
 
@Xeo A cup is 250 mL.
(roughly)
 
Xeo
The metric cup is
Try one of the other ones: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_%28unit%29
 
Yeah, but fuck that noise. If I have to use some retared measurement, I'll use the closest metric equivalent.
That's why "inches" are 2.5 cm.
 
The difference is minimal.
 
Xeo
6:25 PM
US one is ~240, Japanese 200, traditional Japanese 180, UK 284
 
14ml
No one uses UK cups.
 
Xeo
hey, I was just listing the cups that the wiki article has :P
 
They don't even cook in the UK.
 
people normally use bra cups
 
Why would they need cups?
 
6:27 PM
And the Japanese ones are confined to their Galapagos universe.
 
Look, 4 cups is a litre.
Done. Next issue.
 
Xeo
I'm just trying to follow recipes here, and they're annoying me with cups. :<
Also, what is "1 cup of sugar"? :D
 
It's half a fucking pint.
 
@Xeo 250 mL of sugar.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
6:28 PM
can't wait
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel That just doesn't sit well with me, for some reason. Litres are for liquids!
 
@Xeo Litres are for volumes.
 
Xeo
> doesn't sit well with me
 
You can have a litre of potatoes.
 
hey guys I get an access violation exception here: out[txLength++] = SERIAL_FRAME_SEPARATOR;
 
6:31 PM
@KalaJ the char * in. That should be clear, though...
 
/* Initializing argument 1 (in) */
	unsigned char _in_0 [256];
	unsigned char * _in  = (unsigned char * )cpptestMemset((void*)&_in_0, 0, (256 * sizeof(unsigned char)));
	/* Initializing argument 2 (out) */
	unsigned char * _out  = 0 ;
	/* Initializing argument 3 (size) */
	unsigned _size  = 8;
 
Fuck it, time to listen to some Céline Dion.
 
Those are the arguments passed in
 
user1804599
@KalaJ stop writing awful code.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Just... no.
 
user1804599
6:33 PM
problem solved.
 
wait, okay let me start over with a pastebin. Might be more clear
 
S'iiiillll suffisaaaaiiit qu'on s'aime. S'iiil suffisait d'aiiiiimeeeeerr.
 
user1804599
please don't, thank you
 
I wish "I" can stop writing awful code
 
What the hell.
Who actually uses an underscore prefix...
 
6:34 PM
Sad truth is this is a client code and I just need to test it
 
@KalaJ you're initializing out_ to an address of "0" and then treating it like an array. Don't do that.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel What is 125ml of cut bell pepper? (see why I don't like litres for solids?)
 
ohh I see. Those passed in params are autogenerated
so I should correct that and initialize it as an arr and not a char right
 
@Xeo You cut the bell peppers so that you can roughly fill half a cup with them.
I'd guess... one pepper should do?
 
Xeo
I'm fucking German, give me precise measurements for my efficient work. Goddamnit.
 
6:36 PM
@Xeo 0.11kg of bell pepper
 
Cooking is about approximation and experimentation, unless we're dealing with pastry.
 
@Xeo given that 240ml is 8 oz, 125/240 = 0.528. Therefore, 0.528*8oz = 4.167oz. Then 16 oz in 1lb (american unit), so 4.167/16 = 0.26. So 0.26lbs to kg -> 0.11kg
 
guys here's the pastebin with function and unit test
Why is it throwing access violation exception?
 
we just discussed this
 
@Xeo He's american, what oyu expect?
 
Xeo
6:39 PM
@thecoshman Etienne is Canadian
 
@DonLarynx, so it is because it is of the wrong type?
 
@Xeo ¬_¬ that's the joke
 
Xeo
Or Quebec-ish
 
so I need to cast to array or just change it to array
 
Xeo
Whatever you call those people
 
6:40 PM
5 mins ago, by Don Larynx
@KalaJ you're initializing out_ to an address of "0" and then treating it like an array. Don't do that.
 
quebecois
 
@Xeo (american)
 
quebequoayes
 
@DonLarynx, what's wrong with address of 0?
 
quebecaggio
 
6:40 PM
lol
 
@KalaJ it points to oblivion.
 
so, what should I be doing then?
how should I initialize it properly?
 
Xeo
@DonLarynx You're mixing volumetric and mass ounces there (fluid ounce vs ounce).
 
@Xeo Good call. You'll have to find the density of the bell pepper and then see how much water (in ml) it displaces.
 
@DonLarynx, thanks for trying to help btw. I appreciate it
 
Xeo
6:44 PM
@DonLarynx Yeah... and since I don't wanna do that, I want grams.
 
@DonLarynx 240ml of what? I'm sure peppers aren't that dense.
 
@KalaJ Why not C++, if I may ask?
 
@Nooble He wants 240ml of bell pepper.
 
Because I PM said so. If I had a choice, I would go back to web dev
*my PM
and avoid C/C++
 
@KalaJ _out is initialized to 0, you pass it as a second argument to encode, which means that on line 31 you are accessing it.
 
6:46 PM
@thecoshman Vive le Québec Libre!
 
Accessing address 0 is undefined behaviour.
I think.
It's "not very good" kind of bad
As opposed to "ABORT MISSION" kind of bad of an invalid pointer
 
hmm what if I wrote a test to see if that exception would be thrown
 
Still, it's bad, so don't do that.
 
and have it pass as having it fail?
 
@KalaJ There are no exceptions in C
 
6:48 PM
@KalaJ What's stopping you?
 
That is not an exception
It's a runtime error from the OS.
 
interesting but it says it's an exception in the testing framework I am using lol
 
Trust me, it's not an exception that can be caught
The best way to deal with it is not accessing address 0
 
that you're prob right about
 
I'M A PROBLEM?
Are you fucking kidding me?
How dare you?
 
6:50 PM
lol probably
 
Oh wait.
That's "probably".
 
lol
 
I was joking all along
@ScottW ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY KERNEL? WTF???
That's like 10000 insulting
 
@Xeo Well, you can't use 0.11kg because we pointed out it's off by some number. You'll have to punch the manufacturer of the recipe in the face with an XBOX keyboard.
 
@ScottW KernEll.
Coincidence?
 
6:52 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I heard it brings joy if you do it
 
@Xeo But assuming that bell peppers are mostly water, you can get away with it :-p
 
@MarcoA. Don't try it. Once you do there's no coming back.
 
@ScottW C pellus pellus.
Etienne de Martell
Ellex M.
Noobell.
 
@elyse Yeah, something like that x)
 
6:59 PM
Ellyse!
Rightfelld.
 
Yoell can stop now
 
@ScottW That's perfect.
 
What the...
 
@chmod711telkitty Your bird training level is now 2.
 
@ScottW Are you gonna go on Mumbell tonight?
I'll give you a monetary incentive...
One nickell
 
7:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel and on what continent do you reside? :P
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ that thumb nail looks like a cenobite
:\ mid-week shots?
 
@Nooble You mean Cat pellus pellus?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ :P
 
Black Russian time me thinks
 
lol, Vlad.
 
Greetings
 
7:21 PM
@ScottW :(
@ʞɔᴉN Do you see these excuses.
 
:\ I should not poor my own drinks... that's like 100+ml Black Russian
 
"concert" implying scott has friends
 
@Nooble mooomble!
 
@thecoshman You mean "pour"?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ probably...
fuck homos! s/s/phones/
 
7:24 PM
homowhat?
 
homophones... words that sound (phone) the same (homo) but are spelled differently
pour poor
their there they're
two to too
of off (I have terrible pronunciation)
 
:24910220 That's what I said
 
I feel like a terrible wave of stupidity is sweeping over the lounge
she really is a bitch, always saying shit.
 
@thecoshman What does this have to do with intelligence?
Jesus
 
so yeah... on mooooomble pie... but I don't think I can turn the music down vOv
:24910254 what makes it chinese? you steal it?... steel? steal.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ vOv
yes well, moving on.
:\ I think there's too much vodka in my drink... but if I try to balance it out, I'll be adding to an already large drink
 
7:30 PM
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Programming in C++ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
 
Pirate world problems
 
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@hanabijm ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ is a nightmare! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
 
@elyse that implies it's ok, because if you stick out, you will wake up from it
 
user1804599
Why is i++ + ++i UB and not ill-formed?
 
Why would it be ill-formed?
 
user1804599
7:42 PM
Because it would otherwise be UB.
 
user1804599
And UB is stupid.
 
user1804599
Another good option would be to make it well-defined.
 
user1804599
But that prevents the compiler from doing optimisations in cases that aren't UB.
 
@elyse probably easier vOv
that said, easy enough to just say that UB is ill-formed
but I guess the point is that a compiler could decide to work out a way of handling such shit
 
7:52 PM
@elyse Does i++ or ++i get evaluated first?
 
user1804599
It's undefined behaviour.
 
user1804599
So it's either, both, none at all or it orders you a pizza.
 
buffalo buffalo buffalo
 
buffalo buffalo
 
@DonLarynx clearly it should break down to ++i; i + i; i++ :P
 
8:02 PM
why by-value params are good (and inline calls)
random wednesday evening on coliru
 
@StackedCrooked Cool stuff.
Wish I was not stuck in bcc32.
 
Yeah! Dethklok!
 
@EtiennedeMartel sounds like typical reddit circlejerking to me
 
Sounds like jumping to conclusions to me.
 
8:17 PM
it sounds like what it sounds like, didn't say nowt about it being what it sounds like
 
Do you guys have any experience with freebsd?
 
Any, yes, useful, not really
 
People seem to like it.
 
pointer comparison is only allowed if both point to the same contiguous storage. so if I allocate all my RAM into one array, then I can compare all pointers, right?
 
But nobody seems to use it.
 
8:20 PM
It's fairly solid OS, but I dislike ports
 
I should try it in VM
 
@StackedCrooked Sure. Also note that std::less can compare pointers to entirely separate objects, even if the native < can't (and likewise with std::greater and >).
 
What approach would you recommend for reusing one codebase into another in Git? Sorry, I reckon this is off-topic, but I don't see an active git room.
I've used submodules before but it feels very awkward. it takes an extra step in the first clone or build, for example
 
When I started working on the TCP I soon figured I'd need a wrapper class to represent sequence numbers. Then I was surprised by how similar sequence numbers are to pointers. seq + int returns seq, seq + seq is meaningless. seq - seq yields an integer. comparing seqs is only meaningful if they are both in the same window.
 
@khajvah Nobody? Netflix uses it to deliver all of its contents. It is nice in many ways.
 
8:34 PM
The only real difference is that there's no 'null' seq because the whole 32-bit range is used.
 
@StackedCrooked "when I started working on the TCP"?
 
I've been working on a protocol stack implementation for the last couple of years.
 
@wilx Oh, it does have some market share in servers but not many end-useres use it.
 
what are sequence numbers?
 
@khajvah Yes. Unless you use something like PC-BSD, it is not that nice for desktop.
 
8:36 PM
@villageidiot Indices into the TCP payload.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked null pointers are retarded anyway; you want optional<T*>.
 
How to pronounce indices?
 
@elyse I think I agree.
 
user1804599
@Nooble indussies
 
@elyse Ok.
 
8:37 PM
@StackedCrooked so it sounds more like iterators rather than pointers. pointers are a special case of iterators, and iterators don't have null either.
 
@elyse a wrapper that holds a pointer + boolean to represent null-ness? what madness is this?
 
I am gonna install PC-BSD on VB, since I have nothing else to do.
 
@villageidiot Yeah. Perhaps they are more like iterators.
 
@StackedCrooked A null pointer is ambiguous.
Although nullptr is less so.
 
holy shit, the iso is 4 GBs
 
user1804599
8:38 PM
@StackedCrooked It's not madness.
 
user1804599
You could also write non_null_ptr<T>.
 
@StackedCrooked when you say you've been working on a protocol, do you mean "just" techincal writing? or writing a library too?
 
user1804599
Store nullptr in the moved-from state and throw an std::logic_error when such a pointer is queried in any way.
 
@villageidiot implementing a working stack.
 
well then maybe a sequence can be an input iterator!
 
user1804599
8:40 PM
@StackedCrooked luckily you only need two operations: push and pop.
 
Seq is an iterator if std::iterator_traits<Seq> is meaningful!
 
@elyse that's what they are called now. lately i've been wanting to change it to send and receive.
 
user1804599
In Erlang you need sending and receiving to implement mutable stacks.
 
haha that's funny
the least fun protocol to implement is neighbor discovery.
spent a few weeks trying to figure out how I could implement reachability confirmation until I decided to not implement it.
 
user1804599
Use a library.
 
8:50 PM
@ScottW I discover neighbors by accident.
 
@StackedCrooked By bumping into them?
On purpose?
 
@Nooble yeah, in the elevator
 
@StackedCrooked Nice.
I fucking love elevators.
The way they elevate you and stuff.
 
Ell
8:53 PM
Does anyone find "StreamReader" ambiguous?
 
@Ell Yes.
But maybe not in context.
 
Ell
I'm never sure if it means I can read from it or if it means it will read the data I give it (ie I can write to it)
 
@Ell Sounds like the latter.
 
Oh neat. There are two supermarkets open till modnight here.
 
@ScottW They can't read because they can't C#.
Shog still hasn't given me a blue name.
I've requested it multiple times, too.
@Shog9 Go on mumble.
 

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