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9:00 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp Anyway, best of luck with your finances.
 
@Columbo you have a really neat way of sounding like a douche when you write things, but thanks - I guess.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Maybe that's just your interpretation after I behaved like a dick some time ago ;) But yeah, I should work on that.
 
@Columbo rephrase; "behaves like a dick sometimes" ;-)
 
Yep. Well, I'm young, full of energy that I can't focus on the right things, and that leads to shit sometimes
 
@FilipRoséen-refp hah, columbo should have googled it too.
 
9:03 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp any progress with the bug reports?
 
@khajvah No comment.
 
@khajvah Why?
 
> It is often used to mean (or confused with) taking the piss out of, which is an expression meaning to mock, tease, ridicule, or scoff.
 
@Veritas I just filed one (gcc) a minute ago, trying to find if there is anything similar for Visual Cpp - but it seems there isn't (at least I cannot find any).
@Veritas as said before; what sucks is that such bugs are not super-relevant to the upcoming article itself, but it is borderline relevant (which makes it somewhat important to address).
 
@khajvah I live in England, and I have a pretty good idea of how to use that term, thanks
 
9:06 AM
If you're not willing to consider corporal punishment, it's no surprise that you're running out of disciplinary tools for a strong-willed child. I know that viewpoint isn't popular on this web site, but we have found spankings (in conjunction with the reasoning, withholding privileges, considering what needs they may be trying to express, etc. that others have mentioned) very effective with our children. And the nice thing is that when you're consistent about physical punishment, you end up not having to use it very often. — LarsH 20 hours ago
erm...
 
@khajvah don't worry about @Columbo, he's young (or something).
 
@Columbo Not sure how relevant it is that you live in England. You should fix the wikipedia article if you have pretty good idea about the term.
 
@sehe lel
@khajvah It is relevant, as it indicates that I am familiar with the use of it. What are you even on about?
 
@Columbo Well, wikipedia says that you didn't use it correctly.
 
@khajvah just a heads up; nothing good will come of your current conversation with @Columbo.
 
9:08 AM
@khajvah I don't give a pretty fuck about Wikipedia.
 
> I think it would be worth your while to keep an open mind to individual techniques and evaluate them case-by case to see if they cross your and your partner's "no corporeal punishment" threshold
 
oh I see
 
slippery slopes much
 
@FilipRoséen-refp What was that for?
 
I'm trying to prove by induction that hanging out in the lounge actually makes you less productive
 
9:09 AM
inb4:
> if your child suffers mental complications due to your abuse, or even worse; dies - at least you know such technique is not particularly good for your next child (if any) - but one cannot know without trying.
 
Yeah. This got edited out of an answer:
> Finally: I agree that corporal punishment will not work. It's abusive and counter productive.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That second part doesn't match my experience. Especially now when I'm basically using dev packages of KDE. :D
 
@MarcoA. noone is asking for such proof, since it is very much accepted as fact.
@Columbo I will follow my own advice given to @khajvah and duck out of this discussion, if that is alright with you?
 
BTW @sehe I found some more overproduced overmusic
 
@MarcoA. Base case: Bartek is unproductive Inductive step: X became unproductive and drags Y into an idiotic conversation
 
9:14 AM
the ironic cacophony of the high-profile orchestrated sounds are almost insulting to the more delicate melodies there
and then you get to 3:00 and it's like lol
at that point I believe he was thinking "can I cram anything more into that piece"
 
@BartekBanachewicz until now I'm missing the delicate melodies. It seems balanced (I'm at 1')
 
@khajvah Oh, by the way: "The term sometimes refers to a form of mockery in which the mocker exaggerates the other person's characteristics; pretending to take on his or her attitudes, etc., in order to make them look funny." Can't see how that didn't fit with my usage.
 
well listen till the end :D
 
@sehe I agree.
 
@BartekBanachewicz of course. One doesn't cut music short
@BartekBanachewicz Nice bass drop. I wasn't not expecting that, actually
Many hints gave that away before. I love it
 
9:17 AM
@Columbo It says that the correct term for mockery is "taking the piss out of", though "taking the piss" is often confused with it.
 
I still can't tell whether I like it or not :D
 
@khajvah Where does it say that that is the only correct term? Also: Nope, it says that it is often used to mean (or confused with)
 
found it by accident
 
> used to mean (or confused with)
 
listen more, you'll know
 
9:18 AM
> confuse
 
@khajvah Yep, and I consciously used it to mean.
@khajvah Okay, you're retarded. /closed
 
going to. I went through half of the album yesterday but spotify was turning the music off on me and it got too frustarting
so started at the beginning again
 
@Columbo oh am I? It says that it is confused with, which means it is not correct
 
I did the same now
 
but I don't have tme for this
so I will take it
I am retarded
7
 
9:20 AM
Now that is something I can agree with :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz first clear dubstep moment is 1'18"
 
@khajvah Lounge Starbait - self-deprecating comments
 
aw poor feeds not oneboxing
 
@sehe 404 - Not Found
 
9:22 AM
I notussed
Must be another XKCD injoke
 
it's a genuine 404
 
It's not a prime. But is reminds me of 5333 which is a well known number (I don't recall why)
 
The comic is alive, guys.
HEY
 
or is it
 
9:24 AM
ok it officially gets much better in 3rd and 4th track
 
Yes, it is. It's about antiques.
Maybe it needs to get antique before oneboxing?
 
Xeo
The direct link is just ded
 
"next comic" link triggered but leads to 404
 
On 1533?
I can see 1533 with no problems. Go clear your caches or something. :P
 
hmm what I love in albums like that is that they don't even need a big movie or story to them; you're making it up as you go and listen
 
9:26 AM
@MarcoA. that's pretty (cool)
 
@Griwes nice troll
 
@BartekBanachewicz just started 2
@Griwes try harder
 
IDGI
 
Hi All, any on can tell me how to identify the pdf is comment enabled or not?
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@sehe Do you often go back to the beginning of the track when you realize you've missed something it / let something slip? I catch myself on that all the time.
@NachiappanR try to make a comment?
 
9:30 AM
@NachiappanR Does this look like Lounge<PDF>?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not often. But I did like the first track enough to listen again
Track 2 is not gonna be that way
 
@BartekBanachewicz, I need this is done thru programmatically
2
 
user1804599
 
@NachiappanR make an API to mechanical turk
 
@NachiappanR write // This is a comment into the pdf and take a look if the text changes color.
 
9:31 AM
@NachiappanR google "inurl:yahoo iscommenteneabled pdf +sdk"
 
@BartekBanachewicz I will do if it not possible by me
@MarcoA. I can`t get u
@sehe Will google now and get back to you
 
please don't
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I love how he thought about google after the Lounge
 
@BartekBanachewicz @sehe @MarcoA. thanks for your suggestions
 
C      67 0103 0x43             c      99 0143 0x63
so C++ is 68 while as c++ is 100
C++=D
Lounge<C++> is evaluated to Lounge <D>
 
@chmod711telkitty Get your DongML out of the lounge
 
9:35 AM
D lounge?
 
And then there's D
 
@BartekBanachewicz 4th is one that starts off interesting, and gets better once the bass drops
Aw. Shame about the cheesy 'PotC'-grade melody line that enters around 1'30''... And repeated 4x already
 
@chmod711telkitty C != 'C'
@sehe he worked on trailers for PotC I think
 
:D
 
9:39 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It gives me "Kabouter Plop" associations
 
> [trailers for] Harry Potter, Twilight, Avatar, PotC and many more
 
@sehe Ermagherd Kabouter Plop!
 
I love the instrumentation effects with electronics
 
I like how he keeps you engaged at all times.
@sehe it's certainly made in a very "modern" way
 
@FilipRoséen-refp have I got the wrong idea? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/4d03227422933239
 
9:44 AM
@Veritas almost, but not quite, you are on your way of getting there though
 
dang it I can't find the wallpaper sized this
 
@Veritas currently you have a bunch of unnecessary copies flying around, you should "abuse" the fact that temporaries are alive until the end of the full expression.
 
@BartekBanachewicz the ship has toilets or not?
 
@BartekBanachewicz how big is your screen?
 
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A: How to get xml file parsed using TinyXml2 in c++ program?

seheOk, because you were very patient, and because I wanted to try out TinyXml2 for the first time, here goes: #include <tinyxml2.h> #include <vector> #include <iostream> #include <sstream> struct Person { int age; bool passed; enum Condition { Alive, Dead } condition; friend std::...

Done posting troll answers. I still like my comment at the main question best
 
9:48 AM
@chmod711telkitty I would assume so, yes?
@sehe XML in C++ is so verbose :/
another build step I say.
 
@BartekBanachewicz s/in C++ //
 
So does the ship keep the waste on board or throw them out as it travel across the ... environment?
 
@Griwes Nah, I meant operations on XML files are verbose in C++.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's dumb, and has nothing to with C++ really. It's just the rotten APIs.
 
9:49 AM
@BartekBanachewicz s/ in C++//
:P
 
xkcd sucks nowadays
 
I prefer the object mapping and that can hardly be done in C++
 
or maybe it always did
 
@Griwes Reflection is the key point here.
 
9:50 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Go watch the movie and save the frame from there. :D
 
@sehe That's not the same image
 
Or is that an artwork? :D
 
@Mr.kbok oh look on that site, tineye found the match
 
not sure really
as in, both can be different frames
I had a fighter jet for quite some time but a flying ship was back in order
and I always thought the Treasure Island ones were pretty sexy
 
So, the jabbascript course went pretty well
We did verbibols, arrays, if statement, and a bit of functions
 
9:54 AM
Hi ! I have a small problem, maybe you can help. I have a template function that accept a lot of various types. And I encounter a problem for a specific type where I need to slightly alter the paramters of the generic function before calling it. I have thought of template specialization for this type. But in the template specialization, I would just like to modify some parameter and call the existing generic function again.
However, since I call it with the specialized type I am afraid to recurse infinitly instead of doing what I want. Not sure I am clear...A way out of this would be to add a commun function but I was wondering is there a way to tell : please do not call the specialized version ?
Thanks in advance for your help
 
user1804599
> Disk I/O: Better
 
user1804599
Thanks Rackspace that helps a lot.
 
@Mr.kbok verbibols?
 
@FlorianMargaine verbibols
It's a running joke.
 
@matovitch ask your question on the main site.
 
9:58 AM
@Mr.kbok ooooooh. Took me a while to get it.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp ok thanks for the advice
 
@matovitch you should thank me for saving your life.. two more minutes and someone would have eaten you alive; just another day in the Lounge.
 
nom nom
 
is "verbibols" supposed to be "variables"? - damn, professor. - damn indeed.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp ok the the lounge is not for small problem resolution rather for C++ news discussion ?
 
10:00 AM
^ for those of you who get that reference, salute.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I agree
 
@matovitch this channel is pretty much for everything and nothing.. mostly nothing, and as such questions (asked by non-regulars) are very rarely addressed.
 
time for a launch
 
@BartekBanachewicz rocket? please say "rocket"!
 
@matovitch it's for neither really
 
10:02 AM
lunch in 10..9..8..
 
aww
The lunch was a failure lol
 
@chmod711telkitty fake, you obviously don't have wifi in space!
 
@FilipRoséen-refp talking about the converter temporaries?
 
does anyone know what the term for de-maximizing/restoring/??? a maximized window is (in kde?) nevermind, just maximize again.
 
10:04 AM
@Veritas yes
 
Hopefully that new private lunch company can make rocket not explode. Heard about SpiceX before?
 
@Veritas and you should put in some protection from inproper use, among other things, but the starting point is there, now make it better! ;-)
 
Come on guys don't leave me hanging like that
 
this, I want to do this!
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^ @Mr.kbok very relevant to "exploding rockets"
 
@Mr.kbok isn't that one of the companies Elon Mustard started?
 
10:07 AM
@melak47 That's a start!
 
SpaceX?
 
> Skype users have discovered a rather nasty bug in the app. Sending the characters “http://:” (without the quotes) crashes Skype, and receiving a message with those characters makes it crash any time you try to sign in again.
> The bug works as described on Windows, Android, and iOS. It does not, however, seem to have any effect on Skype for Mac nor Skype for modern Windows (the touch-friendly Metro app).
 
multiline
 
yeah, SO markdown sucks
 
Xeo
10:12 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp ... ow
 
And Skype for Linux?
 
@Xeo indeed
 
@Columbo Why would you use something with a backdoor on Linux?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp hope nobody I know on skype tries this on me :p
 
@melak47 simple solution; don't use skype.
 
Xeo
10:16 AM
Work communication vOv
No choice there
 
A: Arrays are arrays!
B: Arrays are pointers!
C: You're both wrong, pointers don't even exist: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/3877qz/despite_popular_belief_arrays_are_not_pointers/crtsprg
 
Ven
@fredoverflow markdown fail?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I wanted to test with my wife's skype
but she's on linux :(
 
@Ven I guess links are not supported in multi-line messages?
 
@fredoverflow B wrote some assembly for two days. C picked up a book on assembly but quit 5 minutes in.
 
Ven
10:20 AM
@fredoverflow probably.
 
@melak47 oh god
my head is splitting
my neck is aching like hell
someone kill me
 
how'd I do that with a bad pun? :(
 
oh no that's not your fault
it's unrelated
> #Idris TFP Safety first: targeting embedded systems with full spectrum dependent types Schwaab, Pfeiffer and Brady
mmm
oh my Idris has a new logo
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I don't see how I can avoid the creation of the converter object but I can avoid the copying of the arguments.
 
@Veritas there are a lot of detail to cover, keep going at it - and I will ping you when the post is available!
 
10:33 AM
> if...then...else is now built in syntax rather than a syntax macro, desugaring to ifThenElse. This is for cleaner overloading and better error messages in domain specific languages.
whaa
 
@FilipRoséen-refp looking forward to it.
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz Just use mixfix parsing and use if_then_else_ like agda.
 
now that's weird
 
> North Korea's going to steal this for their torpedo program.
LOL
 
> The notation { xs ==> xs’ } Eff a in a type means that the operation begins with effects xs available, and ends with effects xs’
hmm that looks like dependent monads :D
open  : String -> (m : Mode) ->
        { [FILE_IO ()] ==>
          {ok} [FILE_IO (if ok then OpenFile m else ())] } Eff Bool
close : { [FILE_IO (OpenFile m)] ==> [FILE_IO ()] } Eff ()
okey now this is really really interesting /cc @Jefffrey
 
10:40 AM
So... formalized contracts?
 
@Griwes yes and no.
or should I say "yes, but this is a huge win over just contracts"?
since this is under dependent typing analysis, the success/fail becomes a dependent type of the context/effect
> If we fail to follow the protocol correctly (perhaps by forgetting to close the file, failing to check that open succeeded, or opening the file for writing) then we will get a compile-time error.
emain = do [prog, arg] <- getArgs | [] => putStrLn "Can't happen!"
                                  | [prog] => putStrLn "No arguments!"
                                  | _ => putStrLn "Too many arguments!"
           putStrLn $ "Argument is " ++ arg
lol this syntax is funny too
an "okay" match and the "non-okay" ones
 
anyone with any experience writing a window manager for wayland? I'm considering rewriting my heavily patched dwm implementation in C++, and might as well do it for something else rather than X.org
 
lol this parrot sounds like he's going to murder everyone in the room youtube.com/watch?v=-_v7X9tWO5s&feature=youtu.be
and the noobs laugh it off
 
@BartekBanachewicz That sounds really cool.
 
Dependent types are the thing.
I wish Haskell got them at some relatively near point
> This is the reason for the Can’t solve goal error when an effect is not available: the implicit proof prf has not been solved automatically because the required effect is not in the list of effects xs.
bah, if I haven't read ekmett's critique of effects expressed like that I'd piss my pants already
I still want to implement that in Haskell.
but it's prolly waaaaay harder than it looks at first grance
 
10:52 AM
I have to pick some algorithm from this list
parallelize it and analyze the result
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Well, will you be able to use X11 apps then?
 
> Quicksort
Odd-even sort <----- obvious choice
Merge Sort
Bitonic sort
ezpz
 
Merge sort is cool and easy
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is that new?
 
@wilx It is possible with some indireciton, but honestly I don't use that many X11-only apps
 
10:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz yes but odd-even is
while sorted == False:
		sorted = True

		for i in range(0, len(x)-1, 2):
			if x[i] > x[i+1]:
				x[i], x[i+1] = x[i+1], x[i]
				sorted = False
		for i in range(1, len(x)-1, 2):
			if x[i] > x[i+1]:
				x[i], x[i+1] = x[i+1], x[i]
				sorted = False
 
@wilx the only graphic apps I use is firefox and zathura (pdf-reader), and the former can run natively under wayland - not sure about the latter, but I can probably find some alternative to it
 
and was built with parallelization in mind
especially
 
15 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@thecoshman I'm thinking of defaulting to everything for free with no action, but if you take action it's opt-in from a blank slate.
 
@BartekBanachewicz nah, I gotta do this on my own
and I'll pick C# or something like it
 
10:55 AM
my version copies anyway vOv
 
you can help me cheat at maths though
I don't care about cheating there
I need to do things that contain terms like quadrature and gauss
 
@Jefffrey that's single-threaded though.
 
But works on other containers other than std::vector.
 
I'd need to just change push_back to back_inserter vOv
but then again, my version copies so it's not really efficient at all
 
10:58 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What
There's no version of merge sort with O(1) space complexity that I know of
So the fact that you are using std::vector internally is not a problem (my version uses it too).
 

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