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4:00 PM
laffo
 
you need to stop at some point
 
do you have a cat? might not want to use something it could confuse for a litterbox :p
 
see
it's doable
did it dieded
 
It's a buttrig so yes probably
 
4:02 PM
sigh
 
What's the difference between /r/images and /r/pics?
 
I'll wait until my internet connection is here
 
They're both bad and unfunny
 
then I'll think about it
BTW we should schedule factorio multi
I have to clean up my workstation first anyway
 
I might be building a PaaS solution-ish after this stupid work project finishes
 
4:05 PM
in the butt?
or like, more general thing
deployable anywhere
 
Not necessarily
We have two physical servers
But we also have clients that want to use EC2 or other IaaSes
So probably something reusable
 
oh so you meant at work
 
IaSSes
 
not leaking that out I suppose
 
This girl on my FB feed is having a complete meltdown over the Tory win. It's quite fun to watch.
 
4:06 PM
idk yet how it'll go
 
I could use ubuntu autoinstall script that sets up gunicorn
I'm always too lazy to provision boxes from scratch
 
I want a solid container infrastructure
 
so I use existing OS installs
 
Make a preseed script
And boot it from PXE
Full automation
 
oh fuck why did I google "preseed"
@CatPlusPlus this sounds cool.
Can I boot from LAN that way?
oh I suppose it's precisely aobut that
 
4:08 PM
Incidentally she's the same one that my earlier status about bullying was about, primarily.
 
I thought it's about this minimal "live" os boot at first
 
It's nice that she cares, I guess, but she's being a total cunt to anyone who doesn't agree with her crackpot FUD.
 
@CatPlusPlus mm, can this thing be hosted from windows?
 
Well it is kinda that
Except the minimal OS lives in the BIOS
Or generally in the firmware
And then fetches bootloader from TFTP server and boots that
 
4:10 PM
so would something like that be ok?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, you need TFTP server and a DHCP server that can serve its address
DHCP mostly depends on your network setup
If the server is plugged into your PC then it should work, but if you have a router then you'll probably need to change DHCP settings there
 
this serva thing looks nice in a way because it's integrated
@CatPlusPlus not a problem
 
That's mostly a problem with SOHO router software
 
They typically don't expose settings needed for PXE
Small office/home office
 
4:12 PM
OIC
 
If you're running *WRT/Tomato then it won't be a problem at all
Or you can just plug the server into your PC for the install
 
haha when did I plonk Caterine
 
@CatPlusPlus hassle.
@CatPlusPlus I could reflash I suppose
 
Less hassle than flashing the router :v
 
I've been drinking a lot lately apparently
 
4:13 PM
@CatPlusPlus that's done once
 
Install is probably done once too
 
fucking hell chat transcript is hella slow on IE9
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Vile lies...
 
You can also burn preseed into a netinstall CD and have it run a provisioner at the end
 
4:14 PM
like offensively slow
 
Then you'll just have to go over and put the disc in once
 
@CatPlusPlus thought about that too
I could spare a pendrive I suppose
 
> disc
 
@melak47 I think overmind has a CD player actually
hell it had floppy drive
 
@MartinJames Doom Bar actually
 
4:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit OK, might be true...
 
beh I have to take a train to work
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus is so thorough with his enterprise server set up advice
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I had a nasty attack of London Pride last night. I'm staying in tonite, (so far:).
 
because Natalia drove me to work and then came back earlier
damn it, mixing with the pleb
 
Automation is useful
 
4:17 PM
mm cat what about ESX actually
this thing is moneyz right
> Proxmox Virtual Environment
maybe something like that could be more useful
that way I could keep the hypervisor awake and spin up the containers as needed
real home cloud
 
Ell
you know if you use kgraft kernel updates can be more automated
kgraft kgraft kgraft
 
too bad those things suck at GPU accel, I'd gladly virtualize windows too
> VMWare’s base hypervisor product, ESXi, is available for free
ooo
well we
going home I have to think about it
someone set up a doodle for factorio
 
@BartekBanachewicz That doesn't really buy you much resource usage wise, but if you want to play with virtualisation then sure
libvirt might be easier than ESXi though
 
Ell
4:32 PM
does anyone here use non a non QWERTY keyboard layout?
I'm thinking of switching to colemak
 
lol no
 
Not really no
What would a reason be?
 
Aren't you a hipster
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz faster typing
helps with RSI, CPS
 
And DOD and OCD and IRS
And NSA
No it's just dumb and won't give you much benefit over layout you've learned over 20 years
Fast typing comes from practice not magical layout properties
 
Ell
4:36 PM
whatever you say :P
 
I use HITLER keyboard layout
 
@Ell besides, I don't think investing in typing speed is that worth it
It saves time if you work with a lot of text
When coding typing speed isn't even close to bring a bottleneck
 
I can type 10000 words per second and only make typos in half of them!!!11
 
user1804599
@Ell Germans perhaps.
 
user1804599
And kbok.
 
user1804599
Is that Vladimir from Moscow?
 
> One important requirement that was again stressed was that the software must be developed as “pure” C++; that is, using only C++ libraries, and not a hybrid of C and C++.
Woah
That's a nice assignment
 
user1804599
Is pure C++ where you use only pure virtual functions?
 
Oh wait, that was the other "Pure"
 
Ell
4:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I think the small speed & health benefits probably add up
 
Btw milleniumbug if you live here why we've never met for a beer
@Ell citation needed on health
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz and not speed? :P
 
Speed is as mentioned IMHO largely irrelevant
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow I won't.
 
user1804599
That would mean redistributing GPL-licensed software.
 
4:44 PM
@MartinJames I'm not
gots celebratings to do!
 
Also dunno how many years it would take for you
 
user1804599
Well, unless I don't distribute it!
 
Also sitting to any other PC with a reasonable keyboarf
 
dammit I'm doing that thing where you're refactoring something and accidentally refactor everything else at the same time
 
keybarf
 
4:46 PM
It's like trying to switch to hex instead of decimal
In normal use I mean
 
user1804599
I know somebody who has an ABCDEF keyboard.
 
user1804599
It's the worst layout ever.
 
*best
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I can only find anecdotal evidence vOv
 
@Ell I'm shocked
 
Ell
4:47 PM
to be fair just taking a break every few hours probably far exceeds the health gain from a different layout
 
user1804599
EBCDIC keyboard.
 
Ell
speed is enough for me anyway
 
You won't be automatically faster on a new layout
In fact, for a long time, you will be far slower
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
neat :D
 
4:48 PM
If you want to get faster then practice more not switch layouts
 
Ell
I want to switch layouts
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, that's vexing.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus well obviously
it's not a new layout if you already know it :P
 
The code must not be tab indented - a simple > 3-space indentation is sufficient.
>No line must be longer than 80 characters
Uh
 
@BartekBanachewicz what the anal bleeding fuck?
 
4:53 PM
Fuck I mistyped, it was just "a simple 3-space"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Punched cards must live on
 
Ell
colemak is less effort to type
 
Without the greater-than
 
> compute02.stage.stage.stage.stage.node.
Something went wrong
 
@Ell from what I've heard, even once you are used to the new layout, there is still not likely to be much gain.
plus you are now no longer used to using 99% of the keyboards you will see out there
 
4:55 PM
@Ell The worst aspect of alternative keyboard layouts is that there are so many to choose from, which makes them essentially useless.
 
So, after failing to compile my code, Visual Studio freaks out completely. I click on a tab to view it and it immediately closes it.
 
Ell
hey st ives finally counted their votes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes IDE, short for Internal IDE Error
 
@Ell For RSI, I recommend just trying negative tilt.
 
Ell
4:59 PM
Internal iDE Error
 
@melak47 fail
 
Now that I use negative tilt, I no longer feel wrist pain when typing.
 
Integrated IDE Error
 
But now that I got back to cubing, I feel wrist pain when cubing.
 
cubing? oh, rubix cube right?
 
5:01 PM
Yeah.
 
@thecoshman indeed :D
 
'loop' backwards is 'pool'
 
@milleniumbug upside down, it's lude
 
Gonna try another blindfolded solve while VS reinstalls.
 
5:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes good lord! how badly did it crash?
 
Is VS a loop tho
 
7 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
So, after failing to compile my code, Visual Studio freaks out completely. I click on a tab to view it and it immediately closes it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes close does not imply uninstalls
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahh, you need a different cube layout - try starting with just the same colour on each side
that layout tends to reduce wrist pain IME
 
@Ell No, it doesn't.
 
Ell
5:07 PM
but it's already solved :O
 
1. Is the cube solved?
--- Yes: scramble it.
--- No: solve it.
2. Go to 1.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 0. Build machine to solve cube. No more wrist pain.
 
Paint every wall with the same colour
 
@JerryCoffin No more fun.
 
Ell
1. Is the cube solved?
--- Yes: scramble it.
2. Is the cube solved?
--- Yes: go to 1
--- No: solve it
 
5:09 PM
Your algorithm is broken.
@milleniumbug I have one like that.
All faces are grey.
The same shade of grey.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes why? :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think building a machine to do it would probably be quite a lot of fun.
 
Womp womp womp
 
why did you remove the links? :p
 
dafuq.
wiki: Mirror cube
Hey.
 
5:11 PM
Very well coded
Probably doesn't like the space
 
Oh.
wiki: Mirror Cube
wiki: Mirror_Cube
 
There is no page called "Mirror Cube" on Wikipedia.
 
No that page just doesn't exist
 
Oh.
It's the Italian wikipedia.
Il Mirror Cube (noto anche come Mirror Blocks, Bump o Bump Cube) è un twisty puzzle cubico, variante del tradizionale Cubo di Rubik. == Storia == Il Mirror Cube è stato inventato, con il nome di Bump Cube, da Hidetoshi Takeji nel 2006, partecipando nello stesso anno alla Puzzle Design Competition. == Descrizione == Il Mirror Cube è meccanicamente uguale al cubo di Rubik, ma i 27 cubetti, anziché differire per colore, differiscono per forma e hanno tutti lo stesso colore, solitamente argento. La posizione risolutiva del puzzle è l'unica in cui quest'ultimo ha una forma cubica. == Permutazioni... ==
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Too complicated - you need a cube like this one :P
 
5:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eewww.
 
Sleeping is awesome.
 
Slapping is awesome.
 
Slurping is awesome.
 
@JerryCoffin I guess, but then it'd be over when you're done.
@JerryCoffin Basically, the flaw in your algorithm is that it doesn't have an infinite loop.
@Ell Because it leaves a solved cube around! Blasphemy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It involves software development, and you don't see the implicit infinite loop?
 
lol 40,000 line source file
 
Two weeks ago this lady saw me with a cube and asked me if I could solve it. I said "Fifty seconds". She was incredulous so I showed her. In the end she went "Wow! that was kinda hot!". Not sure I could get that with a machine :P
 
Robot is a sex machine lately
2
 
I hope you got her number...
 
"I have tried my best" Please edit your question to show your best. — Drew Dormann 2 hours ago
 
5:24 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't know what to think, really.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm...you raise a good point.
 
One day I'll be as cool as Robot
one day
 
Lonely? Want to become as popular with the ladies as our Robot? Easy! Just read our rules!
24
 
What, the rules fell off the starboard.
I just replaced them.
 
5:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Just doing what had to be done.
 
Everyone was thinking it, I just said it.
 
Still can't believe how retarded it is
 
user1804599
douglascrockford is a hero.
 
SEMICOLON IS UGLY CANT USE IT
Almost as idiotic as anything rubby community does
 
user1804599
npm uses semicolon at beginning of line instead of end :D
 
5:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus TL;DR. So the author refuses to add the semicolon despite that making everybody's life better?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit bro m learning i have done many searches but nothing is working. :( — Shani Mughal 12 secs ago
 
@CatPlusPlus oh my lord, that just keeps on going
 
@CatPlusPlus When it comes to JS and retardation, I think the only real question is which is the cause and which the effect (but mostly it's a vicious circle).
 
> Looking for a technical solution ("just use semicolons everywhere") is not going to help with a social problem (reluctance to properly learn JavaScript).
:allears:
@JerryCoffin The answer is 'yes'
 
Man, I am glad I have never done any real webdev.
 
5:42 PM
@wilx I'm glad I don't even do imaginary webdev.
 
MUH SEMICOLON FREE STYLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT MUHHH
christ
It's physically grating to read these people
 
@CatPlusPlus So don't.
 
@JerryCoffin Pains makes him stronger.
 
5:45 PM
Well yesterday was a complete disaster
 
Complete?
 
@Puppy Elections?
 
I just noticed coshman's message insulting himself got flagged
:cripes:
 
hahaha
 
Ell
@Puppy I thought "everyone knows the outcome"? ;)
 
5:46 PM
@thecoshman telling himself off has ten flags
 
Idiots
Fuckin snackchat
 
and he effectively just suspended himself.
 
Impressive
 
clap clap good job
 
Great success.
 
5:51 PM
I hate it when I switch to another tab for a few minutes, come back, and see "(removed)"
 
user1804599
clop clop footjob
 
WHAT DID IT SAY?!
 
(removed)
 
WTF flags things?
 
Ell
I'm dying
 
5:57 PM
lol
 

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