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2:00 PM
@Xeo Hah, Monday and Sunday are of western influence, lol
Actually, they're all of western influence.
They did the same thing the Germanic peoples did and translated the gods/planets to their own names :P
@Xeo They're named after the planets, not the elements.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Where did you find that?
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
dat check
 
@Xeo would be a weird coincidence that both Japanese and Western cultures happened to settle on the same order of names, no?
 
Ven
@Elyse Elm rocks for doing those checks. That's what semantic versioning means.
 
Xeo
2:09 PM
@LucDanton Didn't read the whole discussion, just saw Robot mentioning the Portuguese days of the week.
 
@Xeo Their names are literally the Chinese names for the planets with the character for day.
 
their names are literally your face
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, but they’re also literally Chinese elements with the character for the day
 
also I'm back motherfuckers
 
@LucDanton No. With the character for "star/planet", and then the character for day.
The Chinese names are "<element> star".
 
2:11 PM
since the order is the same (also I’m taking your claim that Moon Day and Sun day are Western-influenced already) I’m assuming it really is the planets that were calqued, not the elements (esp. since those don’t coincide)
 
@Elyse Awesome
> What's the difference between Batman and black man? Batman can go out at night without Robbin.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm, all I can see is kanji for element + kanji for week and kanji for day (火曜日). For the planets, they have kanji for element + kanji for star (火星). Maybe something was lost from Chinese -> Japanese, or over time.
 
火曜日(かようび)は、月曜日と水曜日の間にある曜日。週の始まりを日曜日と考えると3日目、週の始まりを月曜日と考えると2日目となる。 == 各言語での名称 == ベトナム語では第3を意味する「thứ ba」が火曜日の意味にも使われるが、中国語では「星期二」もしくは「礼拜二」という。 日本語や朝鮮語、また、ロマンス諸語の名称は、七曜のひとつである火星の日にちなむ。 英語のTuesdayは北欧神話の神テュールから来ている。 == 各国の火曜日 == === アメリカ === アメリカ合衆国では選挙の投票日を火曜日に設定している。アメリカ合衆国大統領予備選挙の集中日は「ジュニア・チューズデー」や「スーパー・チューズデー」と呼ばれる。 === オーストラリア === オーストラリアでは毎年11月の第1火曜日に競馬のGIレースメルボルンカップが行われる。メルボルン市内はもとより、オーストラリア全土で公休となる所が多く、国民が注目するオーストラリア最大のスポーツイベントである。 === 日本 === ==== サービス業 ==== 週の始まりを土曜日とすれば週の中間となり、月曜日とした場合は週明け(正確には平日の始まり)の次の日であるため、商店や飲食業など、規模の小さいサービス業では火曜日を定休日にするところがある。説としてはハッピーマンデーにより、月曜日までが稼ぎ...
???
 
lol
Sorry I can't read arabic
 
lol dat dump
 
2:14 PM
The names of the days of the seven-day week in many languages, including English, are derived from their being named after the classical planets in Hellenistic astrology, a system introduced in the Roman Empire during Late Antiquity. In other languages, the days are numbered, depending on regional tradition either beginning with Sunday or with Monday. In the international standard ISO 8601, Monday is treated as the first day of the week. == Days named after planets == === Greco-Roman tradition === Between the 1st and 3rd centuries the Roman Empire gradually replaced the eight-day Roman nundinal...
@Xeo 曜 is the Chinese character for "star/planet".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Key word 'also', plus Chinese elements
 
I give up on WvW
 
@AngryLettuce there’s EBG
 
yes I was there
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, I guess what I see as 'the name' is on the left of that, I don’t consider that part of it
@R.MartinhoFernandes because of this
 
2:17 PM
Great Japanese article from Kazuhiro Murakawa using Blender Freestyle for his comics. https://note.mu/murakawazuhiro/n/n227a95339fde #b3d https://t.co/XJfdHqxsoM
neato :)
 
nato :)
 
user1804599
> the five planets visible to the naked eye
 
user1804599
forgot Earth
 
@Elyse Earth was not one of the classical planets.
 
user1804599
D:
 
user1804599
2:21 PM
fuck the classical planets!
 
That context is set in the first sentence of the article.
 
user1804599
:'(
 
Hey Elyse, what do you think of Erlang?
Oh wait, I asked this already and you recommended some other Erlang-like language. Nevermind.
 
But does it happen everytime you ask?
 
What does?
 
user1804599
2:25 PM
@AngryShoe Probably Elixir.
 
@Elyse Yeah, that.
 
user1804599
Elixir is to C++ what Erlang is to C.
 
user1804599
The OTP platform is the same for both, though, so maybe you want to ask about that instead.
 
guys
I need a link to the alternate float representation paper
the one that had dynamic mantissa
 
@Borgleader :D
 
2:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz interesting
 
2:53 PM
Alex M's bed
 
Gonna pour ketchup all over that bed
 
You can't define arrays of unspecified size, right?
 
@fredoverflow You can in various special situations.
 
What are those?
 
a simple example is the variable-size-struct thingy
 
2:55 PM
Oh right, that hack was standardized in C99 or something.
But couldn't you simply use an array of size 1 in that circumstance?
 
the example in the Reddit thread of declaring an external array is another example of where it might be useful (although in that case I'd just declare a pointer)
 
is this the C# room?
 
@fredoverflow Don't know, but I suspect not.
 
@jaggedSpire road trip? /cc @TonyTheLion
 
@Borgleader :D
 
2:57 PM
woof woof
 
@fredoverflow [1] is non-portable hack, [] is portable C99, [0] is gcc extension
 
@Puppy yeah but that’s a declaration and not a definition
 
@LucDanton Exactly what that comment says
 
that's because you failed to array-to-pointer-decay it ;p
 
3:02 PM

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...
 
@fredoverflow y u no coliru
 
@fredoverflow Hahahahaha
rofl
 
@AngryShoe Because ideone is easier to remember for me?
 
Traitor!
What are you doing in a C++ room if you like easy things?
 
Plus I don't know what "coliru" stands for. I wouldn't want to unknowingly support the Illuminati or something.
 
3:03 PM
@fredoverflow COmpile LInk and RUn
 
compile link run
 
it's
 
@AngryShoe You guys are all easy.
 
@fredoverflow since those array types are incomplete and an object must be of complete type, yeah you can’t. although technically the non-static data members of C++ are entities and thus are defined, but I don’t know how that translates to C, which is the one with flexible members
 
you guys got any recommendations for JSON parsing libraries for C++?
 
3:05 PM
nothing immediately comes to mind
 
Rapptz or ThePhd made a library for that IIRC
 
boost spirit x3? :P apparently its "trivial" to make one
i suck at editing
im distracted by this feeble attempt at making what seems to be a keylogger
 
might try JsonCpp
 
Dec 15 at 4:53, by Rapptz
and a json parser
 
Xeo
@Puppy @Rapptz has been playing around with a few, and deemed almost all shitty, IIRC.
 
3:10 PM
@fredoverflow COmpile LInk RUm
 
@Puppy was ist das?
 
@fredoverflow COmpile LInk and RUb
 
throw std::pikachu();
 
@Xeo Gotta say that the example API given by JsonCpp is tremendously shite.
but OTOH w/o reflection it's not gonna be nice, really.
 
3:21 PM
I hate that in this library everything is a UnitInterface* (actual units, buildings, minerals/geysers)
 
dat momemnt when u turn on laptep and it dosnt bsod content.tailster.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/…
 
@AlexM. Did you cattize overnight?
 
what
 
My favorite trivia: Skylake 256-bit vector ops require 14 µs warmup because the upper 128 bits are normally turned off to save power!
@Mysticial lol
 
3:46 PM
guys
@ven ping?
 
Ven
@Mr.kbok pong
 
what's up?
 
1-0 Ven vs Mr. kbok
 
Ven
too easy.
@Mr.kbok tomorrow
 
seems like rerito and cicada are both writing it off
 
3:47 PM
The sun is up
 
Ven
aw, too bad.
 
@Borgleader I liked olgierd and his wife's quest a lot more than the baron's
the rest not so much but that's ok
 
@Mr.kbok Sorry mate, got surgery tomorrow afternoon :w
 
@Ven I say we wait for rerito and grab a drink the three of us
 
Ven
@Mr.kbok sure, sounds good
 
3:54 PM
@AngryLettuce don't worry, not your fault. When are you leaving?
 
Possibly might have to extend my stay for a 2nd one, even
 
Ven
aw, shit. gl
 
@Mr.kbok Saturday 2 unless doc says I need to get on the billard
 
Ven
lettuce know when you're fine
 
@AngryLettuce maybe we can all get to the hospital and party there?
 
3:56 PM
lol
 
@AngryLettuce Boob implant?
 
dick shortening
 
he's extracting his troll gland
 
@AngryLettuce Again?
 
@Puppy JSON for C++ is a ripe ground for garbage libs
 
3:57 PM
@AngryLettuce Mai Dong frow now on
 
yeah I still can't fold it enough to fit in my pants
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Except for @Rapptz's lib ofc
 
I tried a ton at work and always forget which one we ended up with.
 
@AngryLettuce do you need an extra sock for it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but was it a metric ton
 
4:00 PM
anyone heard of M.A.X.?
 
the game?
 
yeah
 
yes never played it I just remembered the name
 
gog has packaged it nicely so that you can play over tcp
 
no plz
 
4:02 PM
that being said we can have a drink in charles de gaulle saturday noon
 
it seems I already own max 1 + 2
on gog
 
~~lounge airport meetup~~
 
the unconference extraordinaire: francais baguette
 
but I just left one. :(
 
> This is interesting, but let's not call it a "programming language" if it is not Turing-complete.
lol
 
4:03 PM
htlm programming language
 
> [haskell]Base profiles unmarried women age 25 online.
haskell programmers have all the fun
 
okay guys
I need to build a couple websites and I'm super lazy about it
which stack should I choose, considering I might be going back here to whine about it
 
if we don't say anything, do you promise not to come here and whine about it?
 
no
I'll choose PHP and whine about it
Or I'll let bartek convince me to use a Haskell framework and come back incessantly with monad questions
 
@Mr.kbok A working one
 
4:15 PM
sure
 
@Mr.kbok transitional html 3.0
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Might just pick something then, as I fortunately have a very low surface area where I need to actually expose the thing.
 
test it in safari 1.0 and IE2
 
not helping
 
jQuery or gtfo
 
4:17 PM
@Mr.kbok React
 
+= JS
 
@Puppy and the backend?
 
eh
you're pretty much already in the top 1% if you use a statically-typed backend, like ASP.NET
I believe that their latest iteration (or maybe next iteration) can run on Linux through Mono
 
Yeah, I'd like to use linux because the windows servers are much more expensive
oh it's officially supported now
cool, thanks puppy
 
yep
 
4:20 PM
linux rocks :)
 
FTR, I hate ASP.NET, but it is in theory at least vaguely in the correct direction, and did I mention fuck dynamically typed shit
 
ASP.NET is supported on linux servers?
: O
 
Uh
 
@Puppy what do you prefer?
 
i dont guess
 
4:21 PM
@Dean microsoft did change a lot eh
 
I'm not sure I'd conclude that I actually like any Web backends.
 
@Mr.kbok but that was mono-related right? Mono isn't microsoft
 
what do you hate less, then
 
Quick question @R.MartinhoFernandes: does the single boost/math/statistics/normal.hpp include in the generated nonius.h++ supposed to come with? Or am I supposed to go get boost?
 
I think it's like UI libraries, or C++ compilers- they're all shit, it's just a question of what grade of shit or what particular aspect is shit
@Mr.kbok ASP.NET.
 
4:22 PM
You need boost.
 
@Dean the core framework is open source and runs on linux now.
 
Welp. gotta go get dat BOOOST
 
cool
 
Uuugh not looking forward to extracting all of boost
Also, topkek downloading boost on Bus's WiFi connection \o/
 
Just need headers
GitHub?
 
4:25 PM
.. Oh yeah, they're modularizing boost on Github right now.
Wonder if boost/math is on GH
 
sure it is
 
Oh, I can submodule it, maybe.
 
@ThePhD can you file me an issue on GH to submodule the boost stuff?
I'm on a boat train.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure I can! ... After I get off this bus. :v
 
4:27 PM
I'm on it
 
ELI5 wat's going on -_-
 
they sure like looking pretentious
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Alex why
 
B
 
what
the editor works ok
 
4:30 PM
RIP in Peace Alex M.
 
it's the closest free editor to sublime text that doesn't require a phd in vimming to use it :A
 
Vintage mode in ST is optional
 
> free
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I was going on about how customizing vim and emacs to act like ST is hard :A
 
4:30 PM
PhD in vimming lol
 
why do even people use atom , it looks bad :( . I used ST but recently switched to brackets
until I found vim !
 
I use braces
 
phd in vimming < phd in emacs
u use braces 0_O ?
 
brace yourself
 
vimter is coming
 
4:36 PM
lol
> Lisp Engineer, required skills: C++ with Visual Studio
++wtf
 
LOLLLLLLL
 
plus oracle, MFC...
 
the pay is kinda meh imo
 
@AlexM. also the job description :P
 
I don't know how salaries in russia are
but 15$/hr = regular senior dev pay in romania
by regular I mean "not exactly something to write home about"
 
4:39 PM
the pay is kinda weird , they might be like " we need an expert bt if u ask a salary den f*ck u "
 
@Dean Turn away from any MFC post
 
7 out of 10 benefits are the same: "Work from home"
 
> GHCi always discards the current bindings when you :reload. The way to
make them persistent is to put them in a module and :load it. Top-level
bindings in interpreted modules will not be reverted, as long as the
module itself is not recompiled, or depends (indirectly) on a module
that has been recompiled.
cmon
why so complicated
just don't revert what isn't affected by reloading
 
> just
 
I'm trying to replicate the F# workflow in VS
 
4:44 PM
Analysis of what is effected or not affected by reloading is not easy
 
where you can just load data and bind it to something
 
I am becoming wiser in the art of shouldComponentUpdate.
 
then as often as you need you just reload your code
 
@AlexM. does F# stand for "fucking"?
 
working on the same data
@AngryShoe PLOT TWIST
PROGRAMMING IS NOT EASY
WHO WOULD'VE THUNK
 
4:44 PM
@Dean are you trolling? =/
 
You have to create a graph of the dependencies between the functions and modules that are loaded and then traverse that whenever you need to reload
Unless you do it the dumb way and analize only the import list of a module
That wouldn't solve much
@Dean It's a language
 
it erased my data even if I put them in a separate module and :load ed it
lovely
 
@Borgleader Well duh
 
I swear this language was not designed to be used
ah nvm I did something silly
actually I didn't it still erases them
aaargh
 
@Borgleader lol yes on that one
I've been asked a thousand times to install F# along with the rest when installing MSVC
never used it, but I got that it's a language
 
4:56 PM
I got it to work, hooray
 
So something weird happen the other day.
I just came back from a day of skiing, and I smelled like if I ran like 2 hours straight. I come home and I have to drop dead on the couch for a second before unpacking stuff.
My cat comes on my belly and starts smelling my armpit above all the clothes.
Then sits down and stucks its head in my armpit and starts sleeping.
 
you were salty and cats like it when humans become salty
 

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