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@ElimGarak 4 of these?
 
@Mr.kbok Yup, yup. Hence the power requirements. :D Programmable multiGPU is where the frontier is now.
 
user1804599
Loop fission is easier.
 
@Mgetz that doesn't make a lot of sense. You're not storing any secrets at your bank that the bank mustn't access
 
@ElimGarak doesn't this require an overpowered motherboard :p
 
12:01 PM
@Mr.kbok Already have one :D Actually, multiple ones. I am just hoping the form factor won't be too big. The new GCNs have been really small and sexy.
 
@sehe any encryption must be breakable, that includes TLS
 
huh? You're oblivious. All webservers read the plaintext of request. No exceptions
 
I think I'm going to try Linux
It's time for me to get a new computer
 
user1804599
PureScript strictness analyser: const True.
 
@Jefffrey can linus run hotline miami
 
12:02 PM
Shit, I hope so
 
@Jefffrey you can have dual OS on your existing machine
 
@Jefffrey start with a vm imo
 
I wouldn't risk it jefery
 
@chmod711telkitty My existing machine is giving signs of "Either you replace 3 things at the approximate cost of $500 or you sell it for $500 and get a new one".
 
cuz drivers
 
12:04 PM
Or maybe even Windows
I like Windows OSes recently
 
@Jefffrey ahaha. It's nice: as soon as you actually replaced these things, it will tell you the machine identification changed too many times and your license cannot be re-activated :)
 
The only worry I have with Windows is that I've heard tooling for C++ and Haskell sucks
 
user1804599
Vagrant.
 
For example I read that installing a proper Haskell environment is a pain in the ass
 
@Mgetz way to misrepresent it.
The bank must be able to read your transaction requests to operate already.
 
Man, hardware is so cheap in the US
 
He didn't reply
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the way I'm reading the text that the minister is proposing I don't believe I'm misstating. I think this will have a huge chilling effect on the UK and on business there.
 
@sehe prototype done. Thanks for the help.
 
@ElimGarak cheaper here because made not far and no tax
 
12:07 PM
Jelly
 
@Mgetz You are misrepresenting. Let me find:
 
Also, I'm thinking of getting a non-laptop
 
4 hours ago, by sehe
But these authorities are proposing bills that will require me to trust any business that ever holds any data for me. Because:
4 hours ago, by sehe
> However, proposals to be published on Wednesday will, for the first time, place a duty on companies to be able to access their customer data in law.
UK banks: They already can. Always have. And (apart from some (Swiss) banks) always have provided this information across the board.
 
@sehe Nice
 
@JohanLarsson Now what did I do o.O
 
12:10 PM
Hey, the Visual C++ build tools finally installed without an error from the installer.
 
@Mgetz They way you're reading it is wrong.
 
@sehe License?
 
It's stated right there in the text.
So go back and do it again.
> Ministers have no plans to ban encryption services because they have an important role in the protection of legitimate online activity such as banking and personal data.
 
@Jefffrey Assuming you are not already on Linux, it's fair to guess that you have a licensed OS
 
> place a duty on companies to be able to access their customer data in law.
Banks already have that duty: it's a technical requirement, not legal.
 
12:12 PM
ITT robot has me plonked.
 
@sehe Oh, missed it.
 
:D No problem. It's nice to see you catch the same excerpts
 
Here I am slaving away, while some lucky bastard is playing Fallout 4 at home. At least I have the Lounge <3
 
@sehe I could have used different ones, to be fair. It's stated multiple times in different ways.
 
12:13 PM
Indeed. But these are the clearest bits, I wager
 
You need to be extremely lazy to miss all of them and misrepresent it like that.
 
Don't forget about the need for witches
Or wolves
 
Shit, Hotline Miami doesn't run on Linux
No linux I guess
 
It's still a horrible bill, but banking has naught to do with it.
 
12:15 PM
this
 
@Jefffrey yes
 
@AlexM. yes?
 
no
 
When you pick an easy to attack version of your own argument, what do you call it? Reverse strawman?
 
12:17 PM
Can you use OpenGL on Windows?
 
@Jefffrey Yeah.
 
Strawman is always reverse strawman in the presence of a perceptive opponent
 
Nice
 
I'm tempted to go with Windows
 
12:18 PM
I explained strawman to my youngest the other day (because when he goes into a temper he's really adept at them).

So now whenever a strawman is being invoked we say "Yes! In the middle of the highway, indeed!".
 
@Jefffrey if you want to play games there's no easy transition to linux m8 no matter how you put it
I don't even get how this is a choice for you
 
But I would probably lose all my "knowledge" of tooling
 
That's reference to the example that triggered the explanation makes us laugh and him (or someone else) realize that he may be using unreasonable arguments
 
I would be thrown in an OS where cd in the command line gives me command not found
Or where file names are case sensitive
 
Actually, cd works.
But your point stands.
 
user1804599
12:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's racist.
 
@Jefffrey install msys
@Jefffrey I do most of my command line work in bash on windows. It works pretty well for most purposes. Install cygwin if you want something more complete.
 
I see
 
@Borgleader finally made it past the point you mentioned. That just shows the contexts as is. I knew that. We want to extend the context. Like, with locals or phx::ref to outside entities. Mmm. That's it. Captures can do this. Buttttt it will have to be in the scope of the rules... And rules somehow need to be global. ... Back to square one
 
@sehe felt like pair programming it
 
cough. - I uttered 1 sentence in chat.. -
 
12:26 PM
is that some kind of pick up line I don't know about between the programmers?
 
@chmod666telkitty something like hey baby you give me a hard drive?
 
is dat microsoft u have on? :p
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey actually, case-insensitive. :P
 
oh, I would be glad to
 
Xeo
case-preserving, but also case-insensitive
 
12:28 PM
I forgot revert
 
@Xeo Oh. Which OS has case sensitivity? Linux?
 
Xeo
yes
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey cd works fine in PowerShell.
 
user1804599
Many things do for common use cases, such as grep and curl.
 
user1804599
Parameter syntax is different though.
 
Xeo
12:29 PM
@Elyse cd works fine in cmd :P
 
user1804599
PowerShell can't beat Z shell, though.
 
@chmod666telkitty what?
 
>_<
don't h8, kz <3
 
Perl is fun
 
@chmod666telkitty what
kz?
I'm really trying here :/
 
12:37 PM
@Jefffrey Of course.
Link OpenGL32.
 
micro soft ... not getting it? :p was joking of course
 
I know the dick joke but what is kz
 
@GregorMcGregor All the replacement parts I want ship from HK and take like 15 years.
 
user1804599
@edition Indeed.
 
@sehe this is our little app.
 
12:42 PM
@Jefffrey It's alright. Just use MinGW-w64 or maybe MSYS2?
@JohanLarsson That's cute.
 
@JohanLarsson so... what is it for :) Seems like you have used some highlevel CLI-mimicking APIs there
 
Just a prototype for testing out stuff
 
No idea what CLI-mimicking is but sounds like it is above my skill level
 
@TonyTheLion Tech support.
 
12:45 PM
@Nooble On the internet nobody knows you're a dog
 
@TonyTheLion Time to clean the teeth
 
@TonyTheLion :P
 
@JohanLarsson Mimicking the CLI commands...
 
@TonyTheLion headset hottie
 
lol
 
12:49 PM
Well, most of you are on Windows
So I guess it's not that bad after all
How's Windows 10?
 
@Jefffrey donno, haven't upgraded
 
@Jefffrey I'm getting very bad video glitches
I had to disable directx altogether on PS
 
I was thinking, once we'll have something like 4G with flat subscriptions, will the phone officially die?
 
@Jefffrey Uh. It's basically Windows 7 with some fancy stuff like multi desktop. Oh and CMD is a bit better now.
 
@Jefffrey which phone?
 
12:53 PM
@Mr.kbok The technology
 
@Mr.kbok The phone.
 
@Jefffrey the landline?
 
I was thinking that if it wasn't for non-flat 3G subscriptions I would not buy a phone these days
@Mr.kbok Mobile phone
It's the only kind of phone I have
 
Flat 4G/LTE sub is graet
 
I don't understand
everyone uses phones
why should it die
@Nooble the phone?!?
 
12:54 PM
Because with internet you can all and send messages, which is all that a mobile phone does more than a tablet
 
@Mr.kbok The phone.
 
Once again I can't help disliking Jens's writing style
 
@Jefffrey which is why you need a phone O.o
 
@ElimGarak Sounds expensive.
 
@Jefffrey ...no, it will not die.
 
12:55 PM
reading his posts makes me nervous
 
Not anytime soon.
 
@AndyProwl jens sucks at writing lol
 
@Nooble $2 a day here
 
@AndyProwl Who's that?
 
@Mr.kbok he quite does indeed
 
12:55 PM
@Mr.kbok I just said that if you have internet you don't need a phone because you can do those things (assuming a flat 4G)
 
@Jefffrey tablets are cool but they don't fit in a pocket
 
what do you mean with "Flat 4G"?
 
@Nooble Jens Weller, the Meeting C++ guy
 
And this should be obvious enough to anyone having anything to do with telecomm and also most of those who have nothing to do with that.
 
@TonyTheLion Non-limited 4G
 
12:55 PM
@ElimGarak Doesn't seem too bad.
 
@Jefffrey oh ok
I have that
 
@TonyTheLion Unlimited data, access speeds down 150 mbps, 75 up
 
Most subscriptions here have a limit to 1/2/4GB
 
I'm getting 3GB for half that.
 
I have unlimited everything
40GBP a month
 
12:56 PM
I'm 99% sure you don't have "unlimited" internet.
 
@TonyTheLion That's not unlimited :P
 
your mom is unlimited
 
@ElimGarak On a phone?!
 
The vast majority of "unlimited" LTE options are something like 100GiB at full speed, and then crawl down to 56k speeds.
 
@Jefffrey you need a phone to do those things. email twitter instagram facebook etc
 
12:56 PM
@Nooble yes :D And I can turn it into a personal hotspot with one touch :P
 
@AndyProwl I knew a mum joke was coming
 
@TonyTheLion :P
 
@Mr.kbok Why? Skype is a thing. Whatsapp and Telegram are things.
 
@ElimGarak FUCK
 
@TonyTheLion 0/10 missed joke opportunity
 
12:57 PM
I've become predictable
 
With Skype you can even call regular phone numbers (those that don't work via internet).
 
Degrades to 3G when traveling between cities, but still, 50mbit/s is fine
 
@Jefffrey Again. Phones won't die at least until everyone has 5G.
 
@AndyProwl you should work on that
 
so much work
 
12:58 PM
@Griwes 4G is more than enough really
 
I need vacation
 
I.e. seemless moving between technologies.
@Jefffrey No!
 
Ok!
 
Whats the interest in the phones dying?
 
I don't want my phone call to break just because I moved from LTE to WCDMA connection.
 
12:58 PM
@AndyProwl I need to up my skill about synchronization context
 
@Jefffrey you mean 2G phones?
 
And I don't want it to break again when I'm moved from a WCDMA to a GSM BTS.
 
@Mr.kbok I mean home phones
 
@Jefffrey landline?
 
@TonyTheLion Fuck phones. I don't want to buy new phones. A tablet is more than enough :P
@Mr.kbok Yes
 
12:59 PM
Alright. Now we have some dissonance.
Landlines also won't die.
 
lol
6 mins ago, by Mr. kbok
@Jefffrey the landline?
 
@Mr.kbok What?
 

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