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9:00 AM
@Griwes mmm ?
 
@ElimGarak hm,... true
 
1 min ago, by Griwes
https://digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,400,1475&Prod=NEXYS-VIDEO
 
Yeah. Just say it already
 
well, using a map certainly does make it a lot easier to implement :D
 
@Griwes I spent ~2 minutes hunting down that page for clues
 
Ell
9:01 AM
@Griwes you write VHDL?
 
@sehe It's an upgrade from Nexys 4. Brand new one at that.
 
Ell
or w/e it's called that xilinx use
 
NYEEEHEHEHEHEH.
... Wait, why am I still awake. :B
 
Ell
@ThePhD it ain't worth it man, sleep now
 
Because you were fixing issues in Furrovine.
 
9:02 AM
@Ell I'll be writing VHDL for my BEng thesis, but that thing I want for toying with it for myself, and for that I'm pretty sure I'll prefer (System)Verilog.
 
@AndyProwl uh dunno where's the closest one
but I guess that's an option indeed
 
Is your phone also broken
 
Ell
@Griwes Cool
 
> It appears to be Web 2.0, whilst IRC is, generously, Web 0.7a-pre2.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think that's the sort of thing google maps can help with, it did when I had similar problems
 
9:03 AM
if it's just a piston that fucked up a new cylinder+piston costs 12 euro
 
Is __declspec(dllexport) specific to Windows (mingw and VC++ and clang++ on Windows) or is it specific just to VC++?
 
@sehe I'm at work now
I really didn't want to be even later here
 
ITT Bartek's office jams wifi and UMTS etc.
 
no it doesn't uh
 
@Ell More specifically, I'll be implementing text mode display into HDMI output for the thesis. Should be fun.
 
9:03 AM
the point is I can fix it later
 
WTS [](){}();
 
the problem for today is the uni class
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh. Problem solved
 
and whether to go or oot
 
Ell
@Griwes yeah sounds cool
What is your degree title?
 
9:04 AM
Oh, with MinGW __declspec(dllexport) is optional
Don't know what clang++'s policy is.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seems you already decided. Since you're prioritizing work over hedging the logistics risks
(I would do the same, mind you. I'm a creature of habit an loyalty)
 
the uni class starts at 5:15pm
 
Is it a self healing bike
 
> Second, Clang implements many MSVC language extensions, such as __declspec(dllexport) and a handful of pragmas
 
uni isn't that far from here but using public transport would take ages
 
9:05 AM
Sweet deal.
 
@Ell "Inżynier", that'd probably be "Bachelor of Engineering" or something in the usual English names.
 
@ThePhD Hopefully, we'll be able to dump MSVC soon.
 
Ell
I see - is it a general engingeering course then?
 
can't wait for clang to be working on windows
 
Ell
or focussed on electronics?
 
9:06 AM
@AndyProwl So you don't have to!
 
@Ell it's a shitty useless title that means nothing
 
@sehe eh, I sort of have to
 
@Ell Computer Science with specialization in "internet engineering", but that's really a name for distributed & embedded specialization.
@BartekBanachewicz Err, no, it's an academic degree.
 
@AndyProwl git clone LLVM & Clang and build it with MinGW. It works.
 
It means... you have a degree.
 
9:07 AM
@Griwes A whole Fahrenheit degree.
 
@Morwenn on Windows? Does it like, support exceptions and stuff?
 
Ell
@Griwes ah cool
Are you in your 2nd year now then?
 
@Griwes A potato is more useful than an academic degree.
 
I mean, I managed to build Clang, but it still chokes on iostream
cause __try etc.
 
@BartekBanachewicz to whom?
 
9:08 AM
A potato will feed you, academic degree will steal your potato because student loans.
 
to everyone
 
@Ell Nah - 1st stage (stage? No idea if that even makes sense...) is 3.5y, 2nd (so a master's degree) is 1.5.
 
@BartekBanachewicz +1 informative
 
just fuck unis
universally
 
@ElimGarak writes this message from the land of free university education
 
9:08 AM
@AndyProwl I don't know. I only built it, I never tried to actually use it.
 
god I should've dropped out long ago
 
unisex fucks
 
Ell
@Griwes oh right, so it's a 5 year course in total
 
@Morwenn yeah, I guess that's it
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz it depends on the degree
 
9:09 AM
@BartekBanachewicz work or get your bike fixed. Just my $0.02
 
you can build C programs but C++ on Windows is not really working yet
 
@Ell dat burn; must be third degree
 
@BartekBanachewicz Most CS-based jobs require a CS degree (on whatever level... or in progress).
 
but they said it's a matter of a couple months
 
Some potatoes are quite powerful
 
9:09 AM
@Griwes We must have understanding for our foreign friends who access our privates in the Lounge.
 
Ell
@sehe eyyyyyy
 
@Ell I won't be finishing my master's, at least not here, though. :P
 
Ell
@Griwes ah right
@Griwes But how long have you been at university? in years I mean
 
@Griwes bullshit
 
@Griwes In almost every relevant instance, I've seen "equivalent experience" which they care a lot more about than a piece of paper, when it comes down to it. Of course, having both is great, but usually mutually exclusive.
 
9:11 AM
eyyy bby u wanna get mutually inclusive???
 
if they don't allow you to put equivalent experience instead of a degree they are a shitty workplace and you don't want to work there anyway
 
depends what 'require' means - many jobs do not literally require it, but many companies take it as a requirement (because they have no idea)
 
std::mutin
 
std::putin
3
 
@AndyProwl require as in require.js
 
9:12 AM
that explains
 
@AndyProwl To guard coputins?
 
yep
 
@Ell 3 years, this is the 7th semester.
 
user1804599
Cons lists and Bloom filters are nice data structures because they're so easy to implement.
 
@BartekBanachewicz he defines "CS-based jobs" to be "Jobs that require a CS degree"
 
9:13 AM
@elyse TIHTL
 
user1804599
?????
 
today I had to learn?
 
Today I Have To Learn
 
@elyse and exceptionally hard to use correctly (bloom, that is)
 
@sehe Basically, people who are good at what they do, but what they do is not worth doing. <3
 
9:14 AM
@ElimGarak I want those jobs!
 
I remember when Puppy was enrolled in CS. Lots of lols were found in the Lounge during that time.
 
Hi all I have one library called libG711Android.so it has no header files and not even include directory.
 
@KuldeepMore That's PIMPL Ultron.
 
@KuldeepMore Congrats
Maybe you should kuldeep more?
 
@KuldeepMore I'd be surprised if .so had an include directory.
I mean, ELF files do not have internal directories, do they now?
 
9:15 AM
@KuldeepMore I'd sue
 
I'd do Sue, as well. She's hot.
 
Hotter than CS degrees
 
CelsiuS degrees are useful.
 
Herb Hotter
 
wtb -no-fallthrough-cases flag
 
9:17 AM
I needs to link this lib in c++ project , I am using Eclipse luna.
 
Guys, I really want to grow my own potatos.
 
Harry Sutter and the Pedant's Standard
@ElimGarak It's easy
 
user1804599
Herb Potter
 
user1804599
haha getit
 
@AndyProwl Morwindows
 
user1804599
9:18 AM
growing herbs in a flowerpot
 
lol ilarius
 
smoking herbs off a slutter
i am really bad at this
 
I'm building my C++ / C++/CLI entirely with ninja and cl
it's fun
 
Elim Garak'tal
 
@ElimGarak we're all noobs only gregor is pro
 
9:19 AM
i am potate
 
msvc plays surprisingly nice with the console
 
good consolation
 
Microsoft Visual Console
 
gregor vs gregand
 
Also, what the fuck is up with Visual C++. I am calling my variant of C++ ... Drum roll... Olfactory C++... Tactile C++...
 
9:21 AM
Audio C++
 
Enjoyable C++
 
TUR... oh, wait.
 
ok gotta try this superboring presentation
 
must try really hard to not look into some template wizardry to give classes ids...
 
inb4 refp's blog
 
9:22 AM
I mean... I'll do it, just got to try to not get distracted by it now
 
TLE GRAPHICS?
ING INCOMPLETE?
D POLISH?
 
Template wizardry is the best. Especially when you use it to shatter the hopes and dreams of people who think they know C++.
@sehe TURBAN C++
 
That's taken
v3.1 used by the Indian LinkedIn C++ user group
 
user1804599
Does it run on TempleOS?
 
user1804599
a customer asked for ReactOS. You ask, we deliver: http://i.imgur.com/958txx2.png
 
user1804599
9:26 AM
This guy worked for a hosting company back then.
 
@sehe "degree-based jobs"
oh boy
 
@BartekBanachewicz just ignore them - there's much worse things
Most of which aren't even jobs
 
user1804599
did you find a job yet sehe
 
Ell
an academic degree is required for a lot of jobs
 
I know a girl who studies computer science, but has problems determining what's left or right relative to something. (literally, she gets it wrong all the time).
 
Ell
9:31 AM
you can't get experience as a civil engineer at home now, can you?
 
@Ell most of which are shitty (still talking about CS)
 
@elyse yes. But that was long ago
 
user1804599
XD
 
@ElimGarak Don't let her implement AVL or splay trees
@Ell not legally, you can't
 
She wouldn't be able to repeat that, so no worries. :P
 
Ell
9:33 AM
@ElimGarak just tell her to say the opposite to what she thinks it is. Then she'll get it right all the time :)
 
user1804599
kek, someone said on 4chan they're gonna do a school shooting in Leiden (NL) and now the school is crawling with police
 
so to go to uni or to not go
it's a "project class"
 
user1804599
no, they'll shoot you
 
Check 4chan for shootings. If 4chan is good enough for national security agencies, it's good enough for you.
 
so prolly projects gonna be assigned today
 
9:34 AM
"Implement linked list" project
"Install Adobe Reader"
 
> 9,4 km
fuck.
 
user1804599
data List a = Cons a List | Nil
 
user1804599
Implemented a linked list.
 
user1804599
That was easy!
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz probably go then
 
9:35 AM
@elyse I think they helped to prevent actual shootings/bombings two or three times already.
 
10 km is a two hour walk right
 
Ell
@Morwenn 4chan?
 
But if people don't die, there's nothing to read about on the news.
 
how much time is 10 km while pushing a 130kg motorcycle
 
Xeo
depends, how much of it is uphill?
 
9:37 AM
last kilometer
 
@Ell Yep, people tend to say on 4chan they're going to shoot specific schools. It happened that people over there tracked these people's coordinates, called the police, and it happened that there would have been a shooting if nothing had been done.
 
Xeo
2.5-3h then, maybe?
 
Ell
@Morwenn aw that's nice
 
Xeo
the bike shouldn't slow you down all that much on the non-uphill parts
 
there's a shorter way than this
 
Xeo
9:38 AM
I'd prolly call some transport thingy, though
 
but I'd need to go through the hilly part of Gdynia which defeats the purpose
 
Xeo
"Pannendienst" in German
"breakdown service" according to dict.cc
 
@Morwenn How can you be sure :p
 
@GregorMcGregor I can't.
 
@Xeo I am thinking about renting a trailer
my car has the hook thingy
 
9:39 AM
4can't
 
Xeo
getting that service thing shouldn't be that expensive
and it's usually quick (at least here)
 
I don't need it done immediately
it can stay where it is for a while
 
@BartekBanachewicz good morning
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't you like have some sort of national service for that sort of thing? I have a card which I just dial if there are any problems with motorized vehicles in my possession.
 
9:40 AM
@Xeo In Portugal it's for free with insurance.
 
Hmm, some movies I have not seen yet there.
 
> with insurance
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, you usually get insurance for your vehicle-related stuffs
 
Also, aircrafts. IIRC, insurance is kinda mandatory there.
 
> having a vehicle without insurance
 
@Griwes it's really common for vehicles to not have AutoCasco
 
it's a troll
it wasn't really bought
Also it was interesting with "my bed" but you can't make the same joke over and over
 
I was actually thinking about fixing it where it stands
 
> having a vehicle
 
Vehicles are awesome.
 
9:43 AM
@ThePhD what about it?
 
> vehicle
Vehicles are the devil's work.
 
I'm never going to drive one as long as I live.
 
ThePhD is one weird dude, but we still love 'im.
 
looking at you're you're never gonna get something else either
 
9:44 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It's mandatory.
Is it optional in Poland?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In Poland we have two types of it. OC protects the others. AC protects you (and comes with stuff like free towing). Only the first one is mandatory.
 
user1804599
@Morwenn I'd've like this one better: knowyourmeme.com/photos/305927-4chan
 
Ell
@ThePhD why?
ie third party & first party
 
@Morwenn This happens all the time.
The person never pays.
It's just a joke.
4chan does it all the time.
Quality reporting.
 
Actually there's also the 3rd type called NNW which protects you (AC protects your vehicle)
 
9:46 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh. In Portugal no one sells just the first one.
 
@Rapptz They're quite good at making random stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes a lot of people don't get the 2nd one because it's often 10 times as expensive
mostly new car owners get it
 
@GregorMcGregor Ok, I just checked the Wikipedia page, and the three times it happened, police arrested trolls and charged them with terrorist threat.
 
Well yeah, it is basically a license to get rekt without fear. Has to be expensive.
 
@ElimGarak 99% of the time it doesn't cover racing of any kind
 
9:49 AM
Well, yeah, things that escalate risk or are basically kinda illegal are not covered by insurance. Hello Games learned that the hard way.
Basically, they had insurance against the elements, but it had the fine print unless something like a flood is likely in the area. They got flooded on Christmas and basically found out life is a bitch, as their area is classified as susceptible to flooding.
 
My father some 10 years ago got rearended by a tractor without brakes on an intersection while he was waiting for the green light. I guess insurance is for that sort of thing.
 
Ell
yup
but then wouldn't the other persons insurance cover it?
oh no nvm
 
@AndyProwl lel
 
Basically, the guy that rearended him has trouble getting the coin for bread, let alone insurance (even mandatory). Also, he had no license. xd
 
Ell
9:57 AM
why was he driving a tractor on the road? :L
 
All kinds of idiots around here behind the wheel. Every week, there's got to be at least 2 separate, deadly accidents in the country. I often get overtaken in insane, unsafe moments and have to hit the brakes so that the other guy doesn't die horribly. Happened just the other week on my way home.
 
@Morwenn cool! :D
totally unexpected
 
I'm glad I could find a 2012 comment to link that :p
 
Y'all motherfuckers need Jes... George Benson.
Ah, Objective-C... The land of asserts relying on reflection.
 
Do $<TARGET_FILE_DIR:other_project_target> works from one project ?
 
10:06 AM
@ElimGarak That enrages me so much I'm sometimes quite torn whether I shall push it a little. I reckon I just don't want to push my own luck. So, I keep "facilitating" the assholes
 
fassilitating
 
I mostly just brake for the guy from the other direction and then on my way home think about if today could be the day someone greets me that way in my lane from the opposite direction. Terrifying idea to contemplate.
 
Good morning.
 
sup bby, ready for school?
 
any one care to pass comments on my scratch pad ideas for an ECS?
 
10:12 AM
@ElimGarak Sorta.
 
6
Q: Post "Stackoverflow has been compromised"

ThomasThis post (10k+ only) claims that StackOverflow DB have been compromised with a link for a Facebook picture and a download link to a torrent file. This may be nothing but I prefer to ask the question to be sure. What should we do? Is this personal data or just stats about the site? Does the us...

LEL
People don't know how to deal with free-as-in-libre or CC-SA
 
TIL this is a thing: stackoverflow.com/error
 
Should I try to prepare and at some point present a tutorial-ish talk that would build up from the most basic uses of variadic templates up to craziness like my magically generated lambdas? /cc @AndyProwl
> We apologize for any inconvenience, but an unexpected error occurred while you were browsing our site.

It’s not you, it’s us. This is our fault.
Fail.
 
@Griwes If you can make it easy to understand, why not - I mean, if it doesn't require a genius to follow each step, I'd like it. Sometimes when following talks of that kind I have the feeling the author is just trying to show me how awesome they are, rather than teaching me something.
 
10:17 AM
At the Berlin Wall last week. Walls work. http://t.co/2N3B4IUhbj
 
Those tags on the deleted question - epic; I guess php android c++ ios can be seen as "attempt to reach a wide audience". But objective-c, really :) — sehe 8 secs ago
 
@wilx sfw? is that one of the inflating things?
 
@Griwes Well, it is safe enough for my work. :)
 
it's probably NSFW
depends on your culture and work environment
(it's a gif of an Asian guy showing how he can get naked super-fast)
 
(no dick though)
 
10:20 AM
no dick
 
that's probably nsfw-y enough not to open it now
 
@AndyProwl awwwwwwwwwww
 
> <garyserj> what kind of ampersand was it that C doesn't have then and C++ does
;_;
 
@GregorMcGregor ikr
 
@wilx "Oh shit - I haven't washed my clothes in 3 weeks" ?
@Griwes many
 
10:23 AM
Guys, I created a blank project in VS and dropped some boost::date_time unit test file as the only source file there, specified a path to headers. And when I compile I get fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'libboost_date_time-vc140-mt-gd-1_59.lib'. Which is kind of expected. But what I cannot find is how VS generates the name for the library? Where it infers it from?
 
Boost does.
 
@zerkms getting started guide, under "Auto linking"
@Griwes post them this answer: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/6df0f9b7352b0325 (it's LMTGFY on steroids)
 
imgur.com/gallery/fOkCNM7 -- Are these terms real or fake?
 
@sehe yep, I've seen the "Library Naming" section, but how VS knows about it?
I thought it's naming convention that boost build system follows
 
It's right there. #pragma lib(...)
2
Q: How boost auto-linking makes choice?

ArkadyWhen I use Visual Studio 2012, with auto-linking, I don't need to add boost / POCO/ python libraries manually, they would be added automatically. And if I miss any library, I get message like that: LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'libboost_system-vc110-mt-1_55.lib' But how it k...

First google hit. Good luck mate. Don't be too lazy :)
 
10:29 AM
@wilx might be real... what would that mean tough?
 
@thecoshman Don;t go meta on me! :D
 
@sehe I just used the wrong keywords, sorry and thanks
 
@zerkms No problem. Next time, once you /get/ the right keywords (I gave them) you can full throttle ahead!
 
stop making me even more ashamed
:-)
 
what's the meaning of this syntax ?
    std::array<std::vector<std::string>, 2> lines;
 
10:34 AM
...
 
It's extremely ironic that 6 years were not enough to get basic formatting on an answer to a request for explanation "in [a] very simple, graphical way" — sehe 30 secs ago
Of course I edited
 
oh wow
 
And of course, a code-only answer that doesn't answer the question
 
Well did you understand the concept though
 
@underscore array of vectors size 2
 
10:38 AM
@underscore read the template definitions?
 
@GregorMcGregor Yeah. Went straight to WP. I think I've used a similar thing to classify and match text adverts for a dotcom startup in ~2000 :)
(array size 2) of vectors
(array of vectors) size 2
Man - not even cdecl is so bad as your stenographic engrish
 
says sehe
 
I know.
I'm just done fixing the formatting on all those answers. Holy crap. People don't give a damn
 

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