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yes?
two of the pirate bay crew have been arrested
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yup
put in prison
I think
one of them in solitary cell thing
wtf?
brb
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20:02
:D
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iirc
@Jefffrey government is protecting us from dangerous criminals :|
this is fucking nonsense
this is literally the worst that's going on with our world
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Much worse than Yodok, yes.
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Way worse. Worst thing ever.
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Worse than people starving to death on a daily basis.
20:05
Hellios
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Helvetios
I have question
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yesterday, by Cat Plus Plus
Hi. Rules. Read 'em. Obey 'em.
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FUCK JIRA
20:10
nah, jira is ok
user1804599
Why the fuck does it use a POST request for a search?
user1804599
Was it written by morons or something?
when it's not in read-only state
dunno I don't search in it
but believe me, there are much worthier bug-trackers
uhm
worther?
nvm
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Much more worthy
20:12
this chatroulette thing is funny
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Ell
It's dicks
anyone up for videochat?
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Ell
I don't have a webcam anymore :(
you gonna show us your tits?
20:13
@Ell suprisingly so far 0 dicks
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Nor do I have working audio input yet
nothanx
@Abyx do you still believe I'm a blonde girl?
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@BartekBanachewicz that's pretty lucky :P
@BartekBanachewicz did I ever?
Xeo
Xeo
20:16
fuck. while I've been debating which parts exactly to get, the parts for this stupid build got 65eur more expensive
Couple of months I made a bus ticket reservation system in c, using file handling. The person on the system, could create a bus , allocate seats and prices and names of bus stops, this information was placed in a single file, and for every new bus there was a separate file, in which there was a unique id, name of seat booker, prices etc.
oh, I was going to eat an icecream
@shortCircuit C sucks.
But now I find add a file for every new bus was a bad idea, now I wish to make a simple database or file api that would simplify the process, how do I proceed ?
@Ell a lot of topless guys tho
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Oh yeah. They ban dicks now
20:17
mhm
there's a "report & next" button
I did not know c++ then , I can organise my codes more , now tat I have learnt about oop
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Xeo
GPU 209 -> 235. CPU 198 -> 204. Mobo: 104 -> 125. HDD 44 -> 54. and a bit here and there
meeeeeh
this sucks
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ouch
that is quite a rise
Xeo
Xeo
especially on the GPU and mobo
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are you sure they're not just raising prices due to multiple visits?
Xeo
Xeo
20:19
Still under 1k total, but ugh
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I heard some websites do that
Xeo
Xeo
@Ell lol
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@xeo apparently ryanair do it :p
for flights
why you don't just quit programming?
it doesn't seem like you spent much time studying it, so why not switch to something else?
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Xeo
nevermind, I think I'll take that mobo
10 bucks cheaper than even my current mobo at its old price, and better
and 10% off it with a coupon code
only this weekend
well well well
if only I could get the old price of that GPU now
@Ell What's the price of this for you?
20:23
what gpu can you get for €200?
oh 760. nice.
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€ 235,10*
Xeo
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz MSI GTX 760 Twin Frozr, was at 209 is at 235 right now
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yup
Xeo
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@Ell so no artificial price inflation, apparently :)
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Yeah :(
20:24
@Abyx how is that
Xeo
Xeo
Maybe I'll get just the mobo for now
for 85 bucks
which is just awesome
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What is this build for anyhow?
@shortCircuit how is what?
Xeo
Xeo
my home PC
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Ell
Do you need such an expensive gpu?
For gaming on?
20:25
I quit the only think I like , so apparently u are asking me to die
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Well it's not that bad but if you're not gaming I don't think you need to spend much at all
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I don't plan to upgrade after that one for a few years, so I basically want the best bang for the buck
why bother getting a shit GPU?
didn't you know that gpu can enlarge your dick?
@Ell that's not really expensive
Xeo
Xeo
20:25
and the GTX 760 is (was) in a sweet spot
@shortCircuit yeah, that is another option.
@Ell you can not spend anything and go with HD4400 in your cpu :P
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@BartekBanachewicz exactly :P and that will be fine
It's expensive compared to nothing :P
OK, I died, now some suggestion
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20:26
The best bang for buck would be not buying one at all until you think you need it :P
If you don't need one now, don't get one now
If it turns out you did need one then you only spend what you would have before
how do you expect him to use a monitor without a GPU?
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@BartekBanachewicz gave me the impression his cpu had a gpu also
@Rapptz every cpu has a gpu inside
you just need a mobo with a display out
lol integrated graphics
what's "lol" about them?
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20:28
@Rapptz hey, intel hd 5000 can play bf on low :P
hd 5000 isn't even the top card
yeah...
however I think we mentioned either not for gaming at all or just waiting for a proper gpu
in which case, again, I don't see what's wrong in using the integrated one
right, especially if you use a linux
I had no problems with released mesa drivers
20:29
@Xeo If this was a few years months ago, I would have said if you wanted a budget GPU you could have gotten a Radeon 7950 or so. But Bitcoin miners have raised the price of GPUs.
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aren't intel upping their driver game now anyway?
@Ell it's complicated
@Rapptz it's a fucking radeon though
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@BartekBanachewicz Oh? How come? open source vs proprietary or something?
@Ell yeah. Officially mesa (Intel 01 OSS centre) is responsible for linux drivers. However, the driver developed in Poland targets also android now... go figure :P
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20:32
ah :p
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@Rapptz I'll just get everything besides the GPU for now, and see if the price sinks down to 209 again
> Die Versandkosten entfallen in der Zeit von 0 bis 6 Uhr, wenn mindestens folgender Warenwert erreicht ist:
lawl
No shipping costs when ordering between midnight and 6am (100eur min. order)
idk what that means
@Xeo Never gonna happen.
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Xeo
@Rapptz it was fluctuating a few days back
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@Xeo I think that's a good idea. Do you game or do gpu intensive stuff?
Because I think you might find that you don't need a graphics card anyhow
Xeo
Xeo
gaaaames
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20:34
ah fair enough :p
well you can give it a try on integrated anyway. What processor you getting?
i5 4670k
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kk
Xeo
Xeo
4690k
same price, better TMI
and a bit higher on the clock rating by default
@Xeo is that quad-core?
Xeo
Xeo
it's an i5, so yes
20:35
wait what
number of cores: 4, number of threads: 4
it's $5 more here
Xeo
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz what?
@Xeo according to Ark it doesn't have Hyper-threading o.O
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Xeo
as I said, i5
i7 has hyper threading
i5 cards don't have hyper-threading.
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20:36
who needs hyperthreading
oh lol how fucking lame
it's not worth the $100+ for it
Xeo
Xeo
hyper threading (and a bit base clock rating) is the difference between i5 and i7
@Rapptz depends on what you're doing
@Xeo TIL
Ell
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What does hyperthreading even do? add more non physical cores?
Xeo
Xeo
20:36
and I deem it Not Important™
@Ell more virtual cores
4 cores, 8 threads (2 per core)
@Ell yup
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Ugh. Fuck terminals.
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I’ll do 2D graphics.
Xeo
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oh, "non-physical"
pentium 4 had HT
20:37
oh wait
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@BartekBanachewicz didn't the newest version (the 20th anniversary one) just get that?
I never thought about i5 not having it.
4690k is cheaper than 4670k
I think my i5 in my work laptop has it anyway
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Xeo
and an unlocked multiplier?
20:37
$5 cheaper
something's fucky
so I have 3320m
shows 4 core
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@Xeo yeah I couldn't remember the name :)
well fuck I was right fuckers
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@Ell virtual
some i5 have HT
or rather, some don't have it
Xeo
Xeo
20:39
mobile i5, meh
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Centrino FTW.
@Xeo This is the vPro edition though.
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> # of Cores 2
# of Threads 4
hahaha
no wonder it has HT.
this 4670k scores less than twice its result in benchmarks though
~4090pts vs 7700pts.
20:42
synthetic benchmarks are pretty meaningless
pick a program you're actually gonna run
well in most cases HT actually does help I think
at least if you're multitasking
okay
I have a shitload of wafers and beer
time to watch a movie in my private cinema :D
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Xeo
Guess I'll order this tonight: de.pcpartpicker.com/p/dzFst6
almost 20 bucks more expansive than it should be, thanks to the HDD and CPU going up in price :<
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are you overclocking it?
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Xeo
yes, plan is to at least 4GHz
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ah kk
we won't give you any
because my name is root?
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if you got question banned, you failed. simple as that.
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Please read the box above. It explains why. — Andrew Barber ♦ 5 hours ago
gg no re
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20:47
Did you read the damn box?
@puppy is the tastiest meat that I've had, and i've been everywhere
i've tried editing it
@Xeo Butcherin poor hardware
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Also we rather not get you unbanned. There’s enough horrible questions on Stack Overflow already.
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20:48
@CatPlusPlus I'll coerce it to 4GHz with a butcher knife.
@IGotRoot lol that's the most irrelevant reason I've seen
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My i5-2500k was running at 4.6GHz
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> update-state state)))))))
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@Ell all depends on the chip you get
i'm trying to ask a qurstion about chat style page loading with javascript
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20:49
((((((( for compensation as you’ve all got OCDs.
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@Xeo Yeah :) I put it back to normal anyway because it was fast enough
no point reducing life span
Or risking it
cat, i've also tried feline which is tasty also
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Xeo
So, any last comments regarding de.pcpartpicker.com/p/dzFst6 ?
it's killing me why i can't get off ban :(
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@Xeo Core i7.
20:50
You lost the game
Permanently
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Xeo
...
Good job
Xeo
Xeo
13 mins ago, by Xeo
and I deem it Not Important™
where it = Hyper Threading
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Well, hokay.
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so not worth the extra 100+eur
user1804599
20:51
@IGotRoot because you suck
user3010322
Why bronze-certified PSU?
we all suck when we're getting into something new
Xeo
Xeo
@ThePhD because cheap, semi-modular, enough wattage
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Mmkay.
@IGotRoot Because you got questionbanned for doing something bad. Deciding whether or not you've mended your ways is for those who banned you.
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20:52
I was thinking about seasonic or one of its rebrands, but fucking expensive
it was over a month
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Not the RAM I would get but Crucial has a decent reputation.
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16 gB of it is good...
@Xeo That PSU is expensive.
user3010322
Da fuck is your gfx card?
20:53
and it's only 650 W lol
user1804599
What is a PSU?
user1804599
Oh, power supply unit.
user3010322
Power Supply Unit
Power Supply Unit
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Xeo
@ThePhD AFAIK, brand and shit is pretty irrelevant. as long as it's 1600MHz and DDR, you're good.
so I went for the cheapest.
20:53
jesus fucking christ VS how can it take you like 10 seconds to break?
Also make sure that PSU is decent, because it's like the most important part of the PC
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PlayStation U
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Xeo
@Rapptz in comparision, it is cheap :s
it doesn't seem cheap at all
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Xeo
fuck your american pricing :'<
20:55
same price, 100 W more
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Moar Watts
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@CatPlusPlus XFX is a Seasonic rebrand, and Seasonic seems to be the top player when it comes to PSUs, is what I found.
Corsair PSUs are the high quality PSUs here.
I know OCZ and Tagan p much
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Corsair makes really good, fairly inexpensive, modular PSUs.
Xeo
Xeo
20:58
@Rapptz I was considering a Corsair one at first, but I've been reading around a bit and XFX seems to be the better choice there
I've used Corsair for many years now
my primary PSU is a seven-year-old 650W modular
all good

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