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1:00 PM
After that it's CPU
 
it has an old ATI which is unused mostly
I could remove it altogether I guess
 
Might not boot without one :v
 
I mean I was thinking about setting it up as Steam family streaming service
 
save some power from the fans, oil coil that beast
 
then I have another geforce for it.
 
1:00 PM
Eh
 
We've been using the steam streaming over the weekend extensively
 
For Steam streaming the host need to be a gaming machine
 
user1804599
Embedded GPU FTW.
 
it works really well
 
user1804599
Good enough it runs Vim.
 
1:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus say what?
 
@CatPlusPlus it was a gaming machine. it's my roommate's old PC (well parts of it)
so I have a 7800GT or 9800GT for it too (forgot)
but went for that old ATi for now because I didn't really need visuals
BTW, did you know that surface pro 3 with highest spec has Iris GPU?
 
@thecoshman Some mobos refuse to boot up without a GPU
Dunno if all desktop ones or not
 
@CatPlusPlus le shit maybe
 
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> Eisdildo in Flasche
 
Obviously not ones with GPU integrated
 
1:03 PM
Jun 13 at 16:02, by jalf
@MartinJames yeah, I hate to admit it, but @R.MartinhoFernandes, you did a good job with the whole thing. Thanks for having us over, and for coordinating everything, even if you sometimes did provide entertainment as well, by spending 4 hours getting lost in your own city. :p
 
we don't really blame you you know
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but that's jalf :P
 
user1804599
@AlexM. <3
 
Blame jalf
 
@rightfold didn't win shit tho
fuck you gaben
 
1:06 PM
@AlexM. well, isn't bad, then?
 
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@AlexM. My colleauge has a machine named Winshit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it seems it isn't
 
@AlexM. You're dumb for playing
 
the theory + practical test was before so I guess I passed that
@CatPlusPlus but... but... :(
free games
and I did win once, years ago
 
We've discussed this
Shoulda paid attention
 
Xeo
1:08 PM
Chance is infinitessimally small
 
@CatPlusPlus let me guess tl;dr it's all a scam
 
What are you guy on about?
 
Like all gamification with money, it's a money trap for stupid people :v
 
@AlexM. there's also cash thing.
 
@thecoshman it's not a scam but it's very hard to win
 
1:09 PM
As opposed to just trap for stupid people
Fuckin gamification
Ponzi schemes: it's not a scam, it's just very hard to win
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, I was asked about the minimal amount of money I'd go there for during the first interview
but it's possible they disregarded that and are going to ask me again
 
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I have to sleep.
 
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I am tired.
 
well, I only spent 2 eur for the thing
 
5 more hours
 
1:10 PM
so it was not a huge expense on my side
 
maybe you are drugged? think hard, are there any pedophile suspects around you?
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah, but no harm in putting your name, worse case, you lost the few seconds it took be randomly given a 'team'.
 
Or my sleep schedule will be fucked up again
@thecoshman You need points, too
 
@thecoshman you need to craft badges to earn points
 
@CatPlusPlus They will always be fucked up. Don't fight the fucking up.
 
1:11 PM
each day 30 people from the winning team get 3 games off their wishlist
but it's like 30 people in 20950892589280958020580925809
back when I won I'm not sure what the chances were
it was 2 or 3 years ago
 
yeah, but you personally don't have to do anything, do you? I thought you could just sponge being part of the team?
 
Still better than when they announced 1 person will get entire Steam catalogue
 
and I think I was among the... 100 people who got 5 games off their wishlist
out of everyone on Steam
 
@thecoshman You need your own points to be eligible
 
also worth mentioning that I won with 1 coal or something, when extra coal increased your chances
lol
 
1:13 PM
And really I wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhat weighed
They didn't say "30 random people" :v
 
@CatPlusPlus they did
 
Well, completely random
 
Xeo
No, they said "30 people"
 
@CatPlusPlus oh, well fuck that for a bag a chips :P
 
> 30 members of that team who contributed points that day will win the top 3 games off their Wishlist.
 
1:13 PM
Also :lol: that scoreboard
 
Just found out, if I die now, my parents will inherit around US$600k, some were from my insurance but less than half of the total ... and that does not include my company which is probably worthless at the moment ... although I am pretty sure my parent rather want me to be alive
 
@AlexM. Still no random!
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Reddit is organising days for each team
 
@AlexM. where does it say 'random'?
 
Xeo
2 win days per team
 
1:14 PM
@Xeo ... well it seems to be gaming it rather well :P
 
no random, but it's not about the best scoring members either
 
Xeo
@AlexM. They didn't say it's not
 
@AlexM. where does it say that?
 
Xeo
Really, that statement could mean anything
 
Could be biased random
 
1:14 PM
@Xeo they didn't say it's not random either
 
Xeo
"Top 30", "higher chance with more points", whatever
 
I suspect though it'll be 30 people who have cheap things on their list
 
@AlexM. You are a terrible lawyer.
 
lol
 
Xeo
I'm not making any badges anyways, so whatever
 
1:16 PM
12x DayZ
 
still waiting for half life 2 to have a 75%+ discount
I'm such a cheap fuck
 
You're on Steam and you don't have the entire Valve catalogue bought?
How
 
shrug
 
Ahaha 2x RPG Maker VX Ace
Someone must've been really happy to get that
 
It might be because he didn't buy the entire Valve catalogue.
 
1:18 PM
First-chance exception at 0x00F31724 in LLVMSandbox.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0xCCCCCCD0.
I broke boost::spirit =/
 
QUESTION, would using a database over iterating static files yield any increase in performance?
 
my first game on steam was half life anthology which included CS 1.6 (I got it for CS actually, via some shady pay by SMS store, years ago)
and I never really liked the half life games
 
@Crow Uh what
 
user1804599
> Re: F.B.I NEED SOLID PROOF FROM YOU BECAUSE OF THE FUND YOU ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE?
 
Iterating and doing what
 
1:19 PM
@Crow Maybe.
Maybe not.
Too broad.
 
Eh... note to self do not take another grammar's rule by value =/
 
@CatPlusPlus I have CSVs. The data is just fetched from a database every once in a while to avoid putting a load on the DB. All of the data I manipulate comes from reading these CSVs. Would there be a performance increase if I was to dump these CSVs into some sort of sqlite database? Seems kind of a roundabout way to do it
I iterate over them and do all kinds of operations, like "give me all of the accounts, then split and key it by ... favorite animal"
 
What do you do with the data?
 
@Jefffrey split it up, cut it, and then I make it into a json which is fed to the front end and make into a chart
 
Dunno, yes no maybe profile
I think Banished is the one thing I really want to buy
Ghhh 15€
 
1:24 PM
@Crow vOv how can we say.
 
just saying, is it quicker to iterate entries on a db rather than a human-formatted readable file? I feel like it must be
 
vOv how can we say
 
csv is a fairly compact easy to pass format
you could easily do shit like pipe it through awk/sed to find the data you after, try doing that with a DB
 
Last Saturday I sent a handwritten 419 scam by snail mail to a friend.
 
1:29 PM
You criminal
 
inb4 Robot is secretly Russian Spam Maffia
 
There's a lot of money, hookers and blackjack in Robonigeria
My keyboard is dirty, I need to buy a new one
 
@CatPlusPlus You could just clean it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
@TonyTheLion but the cress!
 
1:31 PM
@TonyTheLion I'm not sure it's worth the effort
 
it may be worth your money
 
user3010322
Turn it upside-down, bang it on your table a few dozen times
 
user3010322
watch the crust fall out like rain
 
user1804599
@thecoshman with glowing genetically-engineered cress!
 
Once again, the old truth is visible: we do not teach enough algorithms. — Griwes 2 mins ago
 
1:33 PM
Oh look, someone linked me :D
 
@TonyTheLion you think he paid for a decent kb?
@ThePhD dinner!
 
user3010322
> int loopCnt;
 
I paid for a decent kb
 
user3010322
So close... so so close...
 
I didn't pay for ridiculously overpriced kb
loopCat
 
1:34 PM
there's a new mechanical one on the market
 
kb -> kilobyte
 
that's reasonably priced
 
@TonyTheLion 80's called, they want their massive ram back
 
kilobit actually, I revoke your nerd license
 
I don't care much for keyboards, as long as the letters are in the right order and I can type on them, I'm happy
 
1:35 PM
Define reasonably priced
 
less than 0.2k I think
my friend has it
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
The price is not reasonable if you can write it with thousands anywhere near it
 
it's backlighted and has a detachable cable
 
1:36 PM
Amazing
 
why what?
some people like backlighting
 
spend money on a backlit keyboard???
learn to type, and not look at the kb
 
Couldn't care less
 
well it's dumb for me too, just saying.
 
Any situation where backlighting might be useful is a situation where there's not enough light and you're fucking your eyes you ridiculous nerd
 
1:37 PM
lol, cables.
 
@BartekBanachewicz why the cable? what use is that?
 
I like cables
 
2005 called, it wants its cables back.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, wireless
@Jefffrey no. they work god damn it
 
I don't like wireless k/m
 
1:38 PM
@thecoshman it's easier to pack and replace if faulty, easier to attach a longer one and stuff
 
I have a wireless 360 pad and that drives me crazy
 
Not enough battery
There's never enough battery
 
yeah, for me wireless gamepads mean "half-the-time-wireless" gamepads
 
1:39 PM
I have a play and charge thingy.
 
I shoulda bought the wired one
 
you need two batteries for that which drives the cost even more ridiculously up
 
@BartekBanachewicz so... you are designing for it to be shitty, you are acknowledging you skimped on the initial length and stuff...
 
@thecoshman um, no?
 
33 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I have a play and charge thingy.
 
1:39 PM
That's a wire
 
Though I never use it.
 
WIRES <3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and what is that if not two batteries and a separate charger?
 
@BartekBanachewicz design it so that it doesn't need to be sent back, not that it's easy to send back. Give it a long cable to start with
 
I just plug it when not playing.
 
1:40 PM
I have rechargeable batteries and a charger
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's one battery and a cable.
 
I plug it in once and forget about it
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, getting freaky with them
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so it's a cable.
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
yeah, for me wireless gamepads mean "half-the-time-wireless" gamepads
 
34 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I just plug it when not playing.
 
1:40 PM
lol
this conversation is rediculous
 
I would absolutely obliterate any wireless keyboard the first time it would run out of charge
 
There's no "get batteries out" hassle or anything.
 
@thecoshman I think it's okay for stuff to have detachable cables.
 
its like the spaces vs tabs argument. Everyone knows cables and tabs are better :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ maybe...
 
1:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus My wireless keyboard can hold for years.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh gods. One of my rechargeable sets is too thick
 
if you're not a serious gamer you can use wireless stuff
2
 
@TonyTheLion oh you, lol tabs
 
well if you're not a gamer in general
 
blame VS
 
1:41 PM
And getting it out of that thing is a nightmare
 
The worst part of wireless battery requiring devices is when the battery runs out and you don't have any spares....
and all the shops are closed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes show me one serious gamer using any wireless thing
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't get anything out. I just plug the cable when I'm done.
 
My current flatmate has a wireless touchpad and it's constantly running out
 
1:42 PM
be it headphones, mouse, keyboard, whatever
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah I don't have that thing
 
hint: there are none.
And it's not because the companies that sponsor them don't have such
 
@CatPlusPlus Dunno about touchpads, but my wireless mouse can hold for years.
 
to be fair to the council - from my observation, the more experience the staff, the more 'lenient' they are towards development applications - because they know if every rule is to be complied, less than 20% of the application will be approved ... probably less, but that's just my estimate
 
it's because wireless devices are still inferior, heavier and introduce more fault points
 
1:43 PM
Given how bad I treat it, the batteries will possibly outlive the mouse.
 
Wireless gaming mice rarely run over 8 hours.
 
lol, gaming.
 
yes, 1kHz polling and reasonable sensitivity
 
Other friend has a wireless k/m and they both run out pretty often
 
but yeah, I love people who have windows mouse acceleration turned on talking about mice
 
1:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus I don't get it, really.
 
that's pretty much always hilariously ignorant
 
vOv
I'm not getting wireless in any case
 
My k/m set runs with two AA batteries on each device, for years.
 
hint: it's called a compromise
 
I don't feel the cable is in any way problematic
 
1:46 PM
It's pretty much the only reason I haven't bought rechargeable batteries for them.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Wireless stuff never lasts that long for me. Maybe I need to get better quality stuff.
 
Xeo
Tabs vs Spaces Ver. 2: Wireless vs Wired.
 
I stopped thinking about wireless keyboards when I noticed a $22 HP keyboard I bought managed to ruin my CS game
 
I mean my iPad keyboard also lasts quite long
 
maybe the situation is different with $120 Razers
 
1:47 PM
5 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
its like the spaces vs tabs argument. Everyone knows cables and tabs are better :)
 
Robot is changing batteries subconsciously and haven't noticed
 
I don't have spares.
 
but it's so fucking shitty I wouldn't ever try to think about gaming on it because of the delays
 
user3010322
The only thing I like wireless is my Headphones, and those are rechargeable.
 
Maybe you're sleepwalking
 
1:47 PM
@AlexM. I don't think razer has any wireless keyboards
 
Walk walk walk buy batteries walk walk walk replace batteries walk walk walk dispose old batteries
 
there's no fucking point in a wireless keyboard for a normal desktop PC
 
@BartekBanachewicz they have wireless something
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus His runoff energy from his internal battery powers the keyboard 90% of the time, that's how it's lasting so long. :D
 
@AlexM. they have Mamba
it's a mouse
and yeah it costs a small fortune
 
1:48 PM
oh fuck wireless mice
 
Xeo
My friend has a wired keyboard for normal use, and a wireless one for when he's sitting on his bed
 
user3010322
I've always used wired mouse/keyboard, BUT
 
You know how wireless headphones are called?
 
user3010322
Today at work I was given a wireless keyboard and a mouse
 
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OH AND ALSO
 
1:48 PM
Speakers
3
 
user3010322
MY WORKSTATION THIS YEAR IS BOOTLEG TO THE MAX.
 
@Xeo But there's no fucking point, remember?
@CatPlusPlus Er, no.
 
are we talking about desktop PCs or console-based usage on the couch now
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heh
 
Headphones don't use shared airwaves.
 
user3010322
1:49 PM
So, this year I was given TWO MONITORS at the start. And I was like "Oh man, this is gonna be great...!"
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz It's the same PC, two keyboards, for different situations
 
@CatPlusPlus My coworker just said that that's "headless" headphones.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "there's no fucking point" seems quite general to me.
 
user3010322
And then I realize my workstation.... IS A LAPTOP HOOKED INTO THE TWO MONITORS. <_>
 
Headless headphones are a phone
 
1:49 PM
@ThePhD For a second there I thought they gave them to you for home
 
@Xeo yep. But he still keeps the wired one. Robot is apparently trying to say that you can have just the wireless one
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Xeo
What
 
@ThePhD what's wrong with that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Barketing it up
 
user3010322
1:50 PM
A goddamn Hewlett Packard laptop
 
Xeo
Of course you can also live with just a wireless keyboard vOv
 
@ThePhD :lol:
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why not?
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz It's not powerful at all.
 
Xeo
I just prefer not to, so whatever
 
1:50 PM
@ThePhD aren't you using a laptop at home?
 
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@BartekBanachewicz My laptop is like 18+ inches and weighs like a baby; it's powerful.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because of all the issues that have been repeated here over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
 
user3010322
This slim little thing is... not.
 
@ThePhD ha ha "powerful laptop"
ha ha ha
lol
 
user3010322
Also, they herded all the interns into one room.
 
1:51 PM
The only issue is the battery issue
 
Xeo
Bartek, have a Snickers.
5
 
user3010322
So there's literally 8 people
 
come here so I can laugh in your face
 
8 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
The worst part of wireless battery requiring devices is when the battery runs out and you don't have any spares....
 
And maybe interference
If you're reaaaaaaally unlucky
 
1:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz laptops >> all
 
6 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
My k/m set runs with two AA batteries on each device, for years.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes delays. bandwith.
 
r/laptopmasterrace
 
@Griwes lol I despise poor fucks using those things
"powerful laptop" is an oxymoron
 
1:52 PM
I doubt you can notice the delay
 
Xeo
45 secs ago, by Xeo
Bartek, have a Snickers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol I despise you then
 
user3010322
I don't mind a laptop if the thing is like strong enough and has like 12 GB of RAM for dev.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, I see. Now you're jumping from crazy general to ultra-specific.
 
maybe if you went back 3 years in time.
 
1:52 PM
Also bandwidth what
 
user3010322
But.... 4 GB of RAM. Makes me pretty sad.
 
user3010322
PRETTY SAD.
 
@Griwes come again how this crammed keyboard and small screen is more comfortable than a proper workstation
 
@ThePhD Haha 12
haha
 
@ThePhD oh okay then
46 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
"powerful laptop" is an oxymoron
 
1:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes the clue is in the name wire-less they are LESS of a product, you're getting scamme bro
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then just use proper 17" one.
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Listen. YOu can never have enough Ram, okay?
 
@Griwes last time I've checked 17" was still pretty fucking small
 
1:53 PM
Not a silly crappy 15.4 or smaller (lol, lets ignore the existence of that).
 
I haven't used 17" since 2006
 
lol because 17" is OH SO BETTER than 15.4"
 
@BartekBanachewicz My laptop has i7-2630qm and a gtx460m in it (which was pretty good when i bought it 3 years ago)
 
user3010322
@Griwes 18.6" or bigger!
 
@Borgleader note the "m"s at the end
 
user3010322
1:53 PM
@Borgleader 540M on mine!
 
@ThePhD That's too big. lol
 
I mean right keyboard at 17" laptop certainly isn't as shitty
totally
 
user3010322
@Griwes I had to buy a new backpack for it. :D
 
not at all.
 
One 22" screen is not enough
 
1:54 PM
^
 
@BartekBanachewicz It runs SC2 4v4 on very high / ultra settins (1920x1080)
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's right what I need.
 
@ThePhD Yeah, that's why 12 is funny :v
 
@Griwes it's still fucking shitty by desktop standards.
 
If you think it's too small, you can't into keyboards.
 
1:54 PM
deal with it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't care about your "standards".
 
I forgot what this thread is about, therefore it is now about butts
 
it's not only small, it's also shitty.
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Well, remember I'm not using Linux with a beefy tempfs.
 
Post buttrigs
 
1:55 PM
I can't fucking use "desktop" keyboards
 
what should I do if my boss asks me to stop working on something and the work is not complete?
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Butts are okay. But they get kinda crappy.
 
their layout is just bad
 
... right.
all of them.
 
and I'm writing this from one and feel bad with it.
 
1:55 PM
@Crow Stop working on it? I dunno what's the issue
 
because you can only use ONE desktop keyboard sent from god
oh wait that was on the laptop actually.
seriously what the fuck ITT
 
but it's not done and I am leaving... isn't that kinda irresponsible?
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, because that one works perfectly and I don't have to spend $100 on something that is already there
 
are we talking about the price now?
 
1:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Just to put it out there "wireless keyboards are not suitable for professional and wannabe professional gaming" and "you can't live without a wired keyboard" are completely different things. (IOW get out of your bubble)
 
because I'm going to start laughing even harder then
 
Wait you actually like typing on a laptop keyboard???????????????????????????
 
@CatPlusPlus yes :3
 
bahahaha you dumb
 
show me a laptop that has a gpu comparable with my 2-year old GTX
how many cars can I buy for it
 
1:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz How many cars can you buy for $2250?
 
user1804599
Great.
 
user1804599
Apple juice.
 
@Griwes you realize what a PC you can have for that price right?
WITH KEYBOARD YOU SEE
 
user3010322
@rightfold I'm more of a mango juice person.
 
1:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz PC is not portable
 
balls
 
of course it's not.
 
rebel flagship phase 3 just killed me :(
 
why are you moving goalposts now
 
1:58 PM
@Griwes Does not matter. Whatever Bartek needs is whatever people can't live without.
 
FTL boss fight is shit
 
PC is utter bullshit for anyone who doesn't want to sit in a single room for his lifetime.
 
you said you prefer 17" screen and a laptop keyboard to a workstation
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, because I can use that freely in bed.
 
@Griwes right, because the most important part of using a computer is moving aroudn
 
1:58 PM
See?
 
Show me yourself with your ridiculously wide keyboard and your 30" screen in bed.
@BartekBanachewicz YES
 
The most important part of using a computer is whatever Bartek wants.
 
@Griwes and you're telling me now that using a 17" laptop in bed is comfortable?
 
user1804599
@Griwes my PC is portable.
 
it's being able to use it ANYWHERE
 
user1804599
1:59 PM
I took it to uni every day.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes.
 
lmao.
I had a 17" laptop FTR
I was thinking exactly like you
 
I want to be able to pack my computer, take it to Australia for a month and be able to use it.
 
Fuck portability gimme power
 
Oh. Now you haven't seen the light yet.
 
1:59 PM
Then go to the States and do that again.
 

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