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12:00 AM
It's an island or somethin
 
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I can't find a peep of it anywhere.
 
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No, it's some stupid cross-platform development tool apparently.
 
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Xamarin was suggested and then someone was like "Ibiza" and my manager was like "Ibiza!" and I was like "What the hell is Ibiza???" (In my head, I didn't say that shit out loud).
 
user3010322
Not a peep of it on the internet. Must be some internal garbage.
 
user3010322
I'm going to kindly push back Xamarin if they try to make me use it, and if that doesn't work I will go straight to Windows RT and be a cunt.
 
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12:03 AM
... In other news, my first task is going to be messing with Windows 8.1 applications.
 
user3010322
I have to port a WPF application to work on all Windows devices.... as my first IT task!
 
12:27 AM
@ThePhD sounds like something to do with Miguel de Icaza
 
12:49 AM
Good morning.
 
@ThePhD It wasnt a kd-tree that Bartek did, it was a quadtree
 
lol so I had played stronghold 2 for ~3 hours at around 3 AM when I heard the game say something like "it's very late sire, are you not tired?"
there are lots of such tiny details scattered across the whole game, the nicest I think is the huge list of pre-recorded greetings for specific names
so after I set my name to "Alex", when the game starts I get greeted with "Greetings Lord Alex"
 
Nice
 
it's a pity that stronghold games after crusader went downwards in terms of quality :( especially with stronghold 3 from what I've read
 
I wish the adjutant in Starcraft 2 did that when you start a game
 
12:55 AM
with firefly it's not about deadlines and rushed development I think
 
it's really about very bad game designers that take very bad decisions
 
Instead of "Greetings commander". It could be "Greetings commander XYZ"
 
but I'll give S3 a try too, people said S2 was bad and I'm having a blast here
I wanted to make a mineral joke but then I remembered the adjutant only does the briefing :(
 
Actually if you play terran she does the whole "not enough minerals/you need additional supply depots/..."
if youre protoss though
 
1:00 AM
oh
"Commander Borgleader, you require more minerals."
"Commander Borgleader, did you mine any new minerals?"
"Commander Borgleader, I'm watching you, you're not mining any minerals."
"COMMANDER BORGLEADER!!!"
the adjutant is pretty hot for... a thing
would be a great abusive wife
> Using the FF8 game booster is entirely optional, and to be fair about it, some people really do just want to enjoy the narrative experience without having to deal with all the boss-fight hassle.
squeenix added official cheats to FF8 on Steam
tbh, as much as I hate those, the always max damage cheat would have worked wonders while I was playing FF IX and was unable to beat some boss but wanted to see what was going to happen next in the story
 
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1:52 AM
@Borgleader Aww, bummercakes. D:
 
user3010322
Well, thanks for asking.
 
user3010322
I do appreciate it.
 
hi
 
sup
 
user3010322
Hiiii
 
user3010322
1:54 AM
I'm gonna work on Sol this weekend. :D
 
Not much. Working on a command line parser.
 
2:38 AM
I have like 4 pages of those stupid Steam cards
 
gimme :P
or just sell them on the market
 
Yeah I'm wondering about that
:lol:
 
what item is that for?
 
Some random card
Also EVE has better market charts
Where is mah volume chart
 
user3010322
2:59 AM
All tools should automatically reload the source content when it detects changes.
 
user3010322
It's so fucking handy.
 
user3010322
Never have to restart, just save and ohmigawd magical reloading. <3
 
@ThePhD ?
 
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@Borgleader With my raytracer, if you specify an input file and then work on that input file and save it, it will freeze, clear, and reload the scene for you.
 
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I want a shader authoring tool that does that in real time.
 
3:05 AM
I'm sure you can make that in a few hours.
 
aaaa I still have MATLAB installed die die die in fire
 
3:23 AM
> If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a
“protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor,”
and when was the last time you needed one? —Tom Cargill (1990
I am amused
 
class Base { private: virtual ~Base() =0 {} };
class Derived : protected Base {};
this?
 
yes
from that slide deck
 
A) who the fuck uses protected inheritance?
B) if the destructor is private you wont be able to do much afaik
imo "Hey I can do something retarded with the language" doesn't show that the language is overly complicated.
 
oh I know, it's a quote about what you can do... not that it was smart
you can stare down the barrel of a shotgun to see if the breach is clear too... I don't suggest it though
 
You can make anything sound scary by using a lot of words
 
3:33 AM
don't forget long words
 
4:00 AM
+1. If you think it's a good idea to deny people access to the bathroom (at least on long exams e.g. 3 hours where at least a handful of people might actually need it) just because one or two students might use it as an opportunity to "cheat", then you have your priorities seriously messed up. What's next, intrusive full-body searches? Spying on the student in the toilet to check on what he's doing? — Thomas yesterday
 
HAHAHA GETTING OUT OF THE ROOM DURING EXAM GOOD LUCK
 
I was never denied bathroom breaks when taking a test.
Sounds horrible.
I've heard stories though.
 
@Rapptz Same. What this guy describes is what is done at my uni (1 student at a time etc)
 
yeah same here
No one followed me to the bathroom though.
 
Someone did in my case, otherwise i could have walked to my locker and checked a book or something.
he waited in the hallway (obv)
 
4:05 AM
Everyone cheats
All the time
 
I didn't :v
 
Unless they're like me and can't cheat without getting caught
 
I helped people cheat though.
Outside of tutoring I'd do people's homework for money :v
 
I didn't really care.
I still don't.
 
4:07 AM
I don't really care actually, good for you if you made money out of it
 
I made more money from tutoring than doing people's homework
damn "M$" people
they're everywhere
 
I do that sometimes
 
@Rapptz Be glad you can spot idiots from afar!
 
paying for cheating is crazy. it's like paying for a good meal and then paying somebody to eat it for you
 
...no
 
4:25 AM
a bit. :) education costs money. and just like eating the goal is not to finish your plate but to enjoy the meal ;)
 
Maybe in your sucky country education costs money :v
Also it's shit, so the analogy still doesn't stand
 
i'm from euro. still costs at least time.
@CatPlusPlus do you just not like the analogy or do you think cheating can be valuable?
 
Yes
I'm tempted to try to cut my own hair
 
good luck with that
apparently argparse doesn't allow concatenated short options
 
I only ever do straight cut to 1-2cm
 
4:33 AM
@CatPlusPlus meh... that probably was fun the first three times after they invented or
 
Every 6 months or so :v
 
$ test.py -vtx 10
usage: test.py [-h] [--verbose VERBOSE] [--test TEST] [--stuff STUFF]
               [--square SQUARE]
test.py: error: unrecognized arguments: 10
owell
 
@Rapptz argparse is crap
 
I actually like it :v
but this is new to me
 
otoh there's not much value in that behaviour, so I doubt you'll find it in non-getopt things
 
4:34 AM
I have been looking at command line parsers for the past 4 days
argparse is one of the few which don't allow it
but they allow -s10
 
Click or docopt, argparse is complicated and meh
 
Man. If argparse is complicated then all these other libraries I've seen must be complex as hell.
 
Try to do something more complex than a few optional switches :v
 
such as? :v
Click looks good btw
 
Subcommands
 
4:39 AM
tbh I'm not much of a fan of "parse your help message" things
I saw one for C too called "yick" I think
or was it "yuck" I don't remember
 
Click is definitely better than docopt
But I'd rather use old optparse than to ever touch argparse again :v
 
> The question came up why click does not auto correct parameters given that even optparse and argparse support automatic expansion of long arguments. The reason for this is that it’s a liability for backwards compatibility. If people start relying on automatically modified parameters and someone adds a new parameter in the future, the script might stop working. These kinds of problems are hard to find so click does not attempt to be magical about this.
I have no idea what this is referring to.
What auto correction?
Oh I see.
I didn't even know about it.
Apparently you can just type part of the option and it'll automatically figure out which one it is.
Sounds like a mess
 
5:11 AM
> The humble gobo—nature’s laxative, Mother Earth’s gift to our colon, Satan’s fiery rectal broom.
 
I can't make an SSCCE of my error :(
 
 
1 hour later…
6:36 AM
o/
 
|o
 
|o>
 
<o>
 
        ,-"""-.
   oo._/ \___/ \
  (____)_/___\__\_)
      /_//   \\_\
 
6:53 AM
@rightfold Mostly because of LayoutManagers and ActionListeners, I suppose.
 
Actions are quite OK IMO. LayoutManagers are ... not very nice
 
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7:08 AM
@FredOverflow especially click listeners and such.
 
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There shouldn't be this monolithic interface with different kinds of click events.
 
user1804599
But rather one interface per click event.
 
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Or one with default implementations that do nothing.
 
@rightfold Swing has those. For example, class KeyAdapter implements KeyListener.
 
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@FredOverflow interface, not class.
 
7:10 AM
You're talking Java 8?
 
user1804599
If applicable, yes.
 
user1804599
Languages that don't support default implementations are too limited.
 
Because default implementations in interfaces is a Java 8 thing.
But I doubt they changed Swing for Java 8.
 
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But my code works!
 
user1804599
So it's fine!
 
I'm thinking about putting the following pearl in my upcoming lecture next week:
subsets :: [a] -> [[a]]
subsets = filterM (const [True, False])
Somebody has to spread the M-word :D
 
user1804599
Most obscure code of the year award.
 
By obscure, you mean beautiful, right? ;)
 
user1804599
No, obscure.
 
user1804599
Unreadable shit.
 
7:15 AM
Okay, how about this:
subsets = subsequences
;)
 
user1804599
Neat.
 
I found it by hoogling [a] -> [[a]].
 
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But I don't like using lists for sets.
 
user1804599
Use Set a.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Sucks, because the sub-stuff are not sets
 
user1804599
7:17 AM
Lists are overused.
 
I find small Haskell snippets enjoyable, and you guys aren't gonna ruin it for me ;)
 
user1804599
Need a dictionary? Use a list of tuples.
Need a set? Better use a list mate.
Need a priority queue? Hey why don't we use a list?
 
user1804599
Listly-typed APIs!
 
Xeo
haha
 
user1804599
I wish Clojure offered multisets and multimaps.
 
user1804599
7:22 AM
They're quite useful.
 
user1804599
But not very difficult to implement.
 
morning chaps
case sensitivity is a trifle annoying at times :(
 
user1804599
Why?
 
@thecoshman Nivea has products for case sensitive skin.
 
Finally, they're up for the competition.
 
7:33 AM
1 TB, nice
 
15GB for the free plan, in par with Google's I think.
 
@rightfold So go ahead and implement them?
 
$10/month :v
might as well buy a 1 TB external
 
LinkedIn is pestering me about invitation even though I don't even fucking have an account there
 
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@FredOverflow Yes. :D
 
user1804599
7:35 AM
But not now.
 
Guess who invited me though
 
@CatPlusPlus that's so 8 years ago ...
 
user1804599
Bartek!
 
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Vlad from Moscow!
 
7:36 AM
Try again
 
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Me!
 
Scott Meyers?
 
Xeo
Some guy from Bloomberg?
 
ThePhD?
 
H2CO3 :lol:
 
user1804599
7:36 AM
Osama bin Laden!
 
lol
 
@CatPlusPlus Wild guess: Jerry?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
My kitchen desperately needs knives
 
7:38 AM
my knives desperately need kitchen
 
I could use a dozen nuclear bombs today
 
never heard of him
 
user1804599
 
your knives need wives who don't have hives
 
7:39 AM
You guys should get lives.
 
This is now knife recommendation thread
 
That is a surprisingly good looking shuriken
 
user1804599
Schurken.
 
@chmod711telkitty Why a dozen? One should be plenty.
 
7:41 AM
H2CO3 links this as his reasons for leaving too.
the guy sounds so pretentious
 
"Why I no longer contribute to StackOverflow " WHO GIVES A SHIT
 
@FredOverflow just in case ...
 
H2CO3 apparently
 
Also bah 14k in 4 years lame
 
user1804599
Because butthurt.
 
7:42 AM
Considering he read it and links it as his reason for leaving lol
 
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Not elected for mod.
 
> I'm in the top 3% of their contributors overall as of this writing.
That's very hard considering 95% has like less than 100 rep
Good job
 
> 9,195 Reputation top 4% overall
lol
am I cool too
 
I am literally top 0.31%
 
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I'm top 2%!
 
7:45 AM
"I have 100 popular question GOLD badges. GOLD MAN! GOLD!!!"
 
> Over one third of my reputation was "earned" from me doing absolutely nothing for over two years. Indeed I went from the top 4% of contributors at my time of departure to the top 3%, despite, you know, me not doing anything.
>
> Any scoring system that allows this to happen is simply broken in my opinion.
:cripes:
otoh fuck SO for this gamification shit anyway
 
Xeo
Top 0.2% whoo
still lol'ing at my latest downvote
 
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@CatPlusPlus Yeah, I think the percentile measure just doesn't mean what they want it to mean.
I noticed this when I started to use SO in 2011. Right away I was in the top percentiles. So that's when I knew that SO has a hughe passive userbase
 
mawning flaggots
 
7:54 AM
It's for a good cause now. Obvious spam be spam
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion what got flagged?
 
nothing, just felt like calling you that
could have said "morning dweebs", but chose the other instead
 
> top 0.04% this quarter
just goes to show. Top 3% is horrendous. That Richter guy should be ashamed of him self
 
@sehe which Richter guy?
 
user1804599
@sehe you or me?
 
7:58 AM
Apparently I'm in the top 0.85% overall. I'm not even doing anything on SO
lol
 
user1804599
I'm the top 1 of all humans on earth.
 
user1804599
Only those in outer space are better.
 
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Stupid fly.
 
user1804599
Leave my territory you fucker.
 
8:18 AM
<Joker>you know the thing about a nuclear bomb? it's fair</Joker>
 
@TonyTheLion you just need to get a few solid answers in, and you'll just keep getting rep it seems
 
yea
I get upvotes for questions I answers/asked years ago
 
they should apply some reddit like algorithm, so you have to keep active to keep high
 
you know, some sort of system where the effect of each upvote is reduced by it's age, so an upvote from when you first start years ago counts for less than one today. It make sense, for the most part what you said in the past is probably not that relevant these days.
 
8:28 AM
Nonsense
This isn't a news site
 
Xeo
This is a sandwich.
 
user1804599
This is a pointer to a sandwich.
 
user1804599
Also fuck you.
 
user1804599
Now I want a sandwich.
 
8:36 AM
@Xeo nice gravatar
 
your mother's a nice gravatar
 
shall I tell her?
 
yes
 
Hi Mum, Puppy says you're a nice gravatar. Tony
 
yes hun? ... tell that puppy 'thank you'
 
8:37 AM
inb4 "Who's puppy?"
 
user1804599
inb4 "What's a gravatar?"
 
1 hour ago, by Rapptz
http://michael.richter.name/blogs/why-i-no-longer-contribute-to-stackoverflow/
@rightfold what is "outer space"?
 
@sehe thanks
 
user1804599
@sehe space minus inner space
 
Sort of self explanatory
 
8:49 AM
woah
I would have expected more people over the 25k mark
 
Hahaha. I just got an accept on an answer from 2012
 
Xeo
Hm, if I didn't get that stupid downvote, I'd be at exactly 69k right now
 
user1804599
9:01 AM
> Hi, could anyone tel me what a professional grade method of transferring data across a network is?
 
Pidgeons
 
@rightfold lol
 
So many things still to buy
I'm so goddamn stupid
Also my plan to raise my productivity is not going very well
 
user1804599
 
@CatPlusPlus as long as you learn from your mistakes
 
9:08 AM
I managed to go to the shop and clean up after-move mess
 
Good.
 
But maaan writing docs
 
user1804599
Fuck mutability.
 
nah
 
9:31 AM
@Xeo Downvotes are never stupid
 
Hello young people
Does any one of you can are good to the C++
 
try saying something funny for a change
 
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> does can are
 
Mine apologies for the engluish
 
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9:35 AM
CICADA I LOVE YOU
 
slow ... that's so yesterday
 
heheh
 
user1804599
"Park Young-Bae" reminds me of egg foo yong.
 
user1804599
Now I want egg foo yong.
 
user1804599
9:37 AM
Fuuu.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae three
 
what, puppy, puppy and puppy?
 
oh you
 
user1804599
Xeo, Robot and sehe.
 
The compilation is so long! I am very bored.
 
9:45 AM
play FTL
 
user1804599
@ParkYoung-Bae Compilation is not the only thing that's long. ;)
 
That Richter guy is quite the character. It seems to me he takes life (and himself) much too seriously
> For tiny embedded systems, Forth because it is one of the most malleable yet tiny languages in existence.

For systems-level programming (device drivers, etc. and maybe even larger embedded systems), Modula-2 or Modula-3 because, unlike languages in the C blight family, they actually take type safety and application stability somewhat seriously.

For just hacking around for fun, Prolog because it stretches my mind and forces me to think in different ways to solve problems
 
user1804599
What to eat.
 
user1804599
I'm into Chinese food but they don't serve that for lunch.
 
Let me get that right. "Prolog, for just hacking around for fun". Sure
@rightfold Then just eat Chinese instead.
 
user1804599
9:53 AM
@sehe What's wrong with it?
 
user1804599
I often do things for fun.
 
You're also quite the character. But, luckily, you don't take anything seriously :)
 
user1804599
I AM BAD AT FIGURATIVE SPEAKING.
 
user1804599
FUU
 
Sorry. I can't help it :|
Anyways, the "eat Chinese" advice was very literal
 
user1804599
9:55 AM
I know.
 
user1804599
But I was talking about using Prolog for fun.
 
Xeo
@sehe Yes it was. :(
 

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