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12:02 AM
@sehe lol, he's losing his voice
 
user1804599
12:15 AM
ok what Peace Walker
 
user1804599
I interrogate an enemy and he tells me I can find the map in the START menu. :V
 
I've made your code self contained and running live on Coliru. Please do this; making your code selfcontained make it possible for people to actually fix things. — sehe 1 min ago
@StackedCrooked ^ I had some stuck processes listening - so I had to select different Base ports :/
 
strange
server crashed earlier today
when I tried to restart it it said port 80 was already in use
turned out that there was still a ruby process attached to that port
killing that fixed it
but this never happened before
 
Xeo
Lots of things never happen before they do!
 
12:33 AM
 
Ell
@Jefffrey saw this yesterday :L
@FilipRoséen-refp HELLO! CAN YOU HEAR ME?
 
@Ell I CAN HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, SIR!
What's up @Ell?
You know, for the longest time I thought your nick was "EII" (ie. I's instead of L's)
 
Ell
@FilipRoséen-refp Not much, how about you?
@FilipRoséen-refp Really? It's odd, a lot of people have trouble with it :P Most people think its eli though
 
@Ell just bought myself a meal from the local burger joint, getting back to code writing in a bit; wish I was out getting hammered though
 
Ell
12:37 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp I accidentally got hammered the other night while mumbling with @TonyTheLion and the pup
 
@Ell so did I at first, but then I noticed that the two "II" was the same character, so I just assumed it to be "EII" (ie. kinda like "eyy")
@Ell how do you get "accidentally hammered"?
 
Ell
@FilipRoséen-refp I didn't realise how drunk I was because I was just sitting at my desk
but as soon as I stood up I realised :P
 
I wished that happened to people seemingly out of the blue.. all of a sudden and BAAM; hammered.
@Ell ah, yeah; that's why I rarely sit down when I'm out
unless I've reached the state of "well, now it doesn't matter how drunk I get.. I'm already lost"
then I just sit a smoke and pretend to know what I'm doing
 
@BartekBanachewicz same here
 
Ell
Jon Blow is good at design I tihnk
 
12:45 AM
time to eat, ploff.
 
Ell
he can't communicate very well though
 
design of what?
websites?
 
user1804599
crap
 
@BartekBanachewicz Same here
I've always just assumed I wasn't good enough for him.
 
Ell
@Jefffrey games
@Jefffrey wrt asshole thing? Luc is an awesome guy imho
 
12:54 AM
I don't know him so I can't say
I'm pretty sure it's not the kind of guy I would like to sit down and talk to.
 
Ell
He's always been helpful to me and kind
and I try to be kind in return as I probably can't be helpful to him
 
Nice, but he ignores a good set of people that may be considered regulars.
That shows a "full of myself" behavior that I really can't stand.
Anyway
@notjefff saw your question about compile time guarantees, my answer would be offtopic, want to have a chat?
Hmm
 
Ell
@Jefffrey I'm not sure
 
@Ell of what darling?
 
Ell
@Jefffrey if luc plonked you a long time ago its probably not because he thinks he's better
Or full of himself
 
1:05 AM
I see
Oh well
 
@Ell Luc plonked me forever ago afaik
 
Ell
Maybe he just wanted less noise back when you guys were nubs :P
 
He seems like a nice guy indeed.
Oh boi I sure miss watching columbo
One of the episodes what entitled "A friend in deed".
 
Ell
@jefff have you mumbled before?
And why not?
 
yes
there was... tony, sehe, rightfold (?) and thephd iirc
i was drunk
thephd sounded too "normal"
iunno
he had a "social" voice
 
Xeo
1:11 AM
I was also on mumble once or twice
 
like one of those guys that is able to entertain all your friends for a whole evening telling stories
 
Ell
Too normal? :P what are you implying?
@xeo I remember
 
i mean that i expect people from here to be socially awkward
 
@sbi Fair enough. Ping me when things have settled down. Or not.
 
because i'm also like that
 
Ell
1:13 AM
@Jefffrey meh I don't really
 
@Jefffrey Me? Socially awkward?
 
Ell
I expect a few particular people to be
 
Everyone that's met would disagree with that.
 
Ell
Not that I'd name them
 
1:13 AM
nah
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey Most people here trashtalk all day long, and Luc doesn't appear to be here for that - he's here mostly for the technical conversations, AFAICS. So maybe he just chose to ignore anything non-tech.
 
Ell
But I wouldn't say it generally
 
robot you are not socially awkward
 
Xeo
he's awkwardly social
 
a socially awkward person wouldn't go ahead and talk for how many minutes in front of a bunch of people
 
Ell
1:14 AM
@xeo yeah luc has always been very helpful to me when I ask technical questions
 
@Xeo Makes sense.
 
Ell
As have you all
 
but i don't give a crap
 
Ell
But luc mostly just talks technical
 
@Xeo Oooh. I'm stealing that.
Also, I'm not drunk.
 
Xeo
1:15 AM
welp, time for sleeps
 
so we can stop talking about luc
 
Dunno why I felt that needed mentioning.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes hf. I expect 30% in royalties.
 
Ell
@xeo night :)
 
or at least don't ping me for that
 
1:15 AM
@Xeo I'm not making money out of it.
 
@Xeo good night
 
Ell
I don't remember mumbling with jefff
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Boo.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's a joke
@Ell that's because that never happened
 
My friends told me that I should rest.
 
Ell
1:16 AM
You should
 
i don't see the point
i hate oral conversations
unless they are about some topic that i really care about
 
Ell
Why?
 
talking about what i do or asking what other people do is boring to me
i dunno why
 
Would have been ok had the time on the clock roughly matched the one on the screenshot :) — sehe 12 secs ago
 
Ell
I mean why oral in particular?
 
1:17 AM
That's what she said.
 
because i feel forced to small talk
and i'm terrible at small talk
because i don't like it
or maybe i don't like it because i'm terrible at it, i dunno
on the other hand if i'm drunk, i'm also able to small talk
but i can't get drunk any time soon, so...
 
Ell
I'm not great at small talk really
 
@Jefffrey why are you doing this then :)
 
this is deep talk
not small talk
it's also not oral
 
Ell
Oral is easier to read people
 
1:20 AM
I thought you said you couldn't get drunk anytime soon.
I presume this is because you already ayre
 
yeah, i don't want that either
 
Ell
But I guess Harder because you can't just leave
 
@Ell Especially deep oral, it's when things get hardest
 
@sehe no, because the doctor told me "no alcohol for 4 months"
 
Ell
And also with verbal conversations you have limited time to reply
 
1:21 AM
Things are awkward if a doctor says that to a person
 
Ell
@sehe ooer
 
@Ell Nah.
You can just make up that time.
 
@Ell that's with limited friends :0
 
the doctor mailed me a giant jif with blinking "no alcohol"
 
oh, he's trolling :0
 
1:22 AM
he didn't told me orally, that would be awkward indeed
 
Ell
@sehe true :)
 
jhonny deep
 
Ell
I can enjoy a day sitting in silence with my best friend
But most people I feel the need to talk
 
that's what i spend almost all my time with best friends
 
Ell
1:23 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes make it up how?
 
because we have very little else to talk about
 
@Ell By making it clear that you will take some time to reply.
 
Ell
I don't have a problem talking with purpose really
Although I don't like confrontation
 
@Ell I usually can. Usually to play the piano for a bit. I need that in order to stay coherent/participating. Otherwise I'd just need to go off to bed or something.
 
Ell
I want to tell my boss I can only do 3 days a week
But I'm afraid to. I'm not sure why
 
1:27 AM
I want to tell my boss that I can only do 0 days a week.
 
Ell
Why is that?
Do you dislike your job?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Looking for a new job?
 
Do you want to get another job?
 
Ell
Someone tell me what I'm afraid of. Maybe its that he'll say no and I'll have to quit
 
1:56 AM
Stop being quiet FFS.
 
You were quiet too!
 
2:55 AM
<--- me doing hiking a week ago
 
 
1 hour later…
4:06 AM
oh not again
 
4:35 AM
@Jefffrey Nope, not again. Not ever, as a matter of fact.
 
4:59 AM
hi
 
@Rapptz hi
 
SDL doesn't let you make an SDL_Texture without an SDL_Renderer which is sort of annoying because the only thing that needs an SDL_Renderer is an SDL_Window so in turn you need an SDL_Window to make an SDL_Texture.
I'm not sure who designed this closely coupled API but it bugs the crap out of me
There's a way to make an SDL_Texture from an SDL_Surface which you can make however way you feel like but that still needs an SDL_Renderer so it's not really super helpful.
This is bugging me because it's ruining my API too :(
I don't know how to go about doing this.
 
@Rapptz Unfortunately, "complex due to tight coupling Direct Media layer" had already been claimed and trademarked by Apple, so they were stuck with calling it "simple".
 
told you before, fork SFML and fix it ;)
 
lol
@Borgleader too annoying
 
5:12 AM
I use sfml; I wish more good games were made with it
 
I used to use SFML too.
Looking at how other people do it
They completely disregard the existence of a window, and just use a renderer.
Which is kinda weird
because the renderer doesn't do much, so I guess they pack extra information to the renderer (like a pointer to the window) or something.
 
I dunno how to design my engine. I want to be it not coupled by using inherititence to use drawable and stuff, but I am still getting my head around it :/
Like, how do I make sounds?
Seriosly lol
 
@Mixerman123 clap your hands
 
Clap
 
user1646075
5:49 AM
@Mixerman123 and wave ya hanz in da ay-are!
 
6:05 AM
I did a bit more looking around and found that there is another way to create an SDL_Renderer. This time using SDL_Surface which is cool I guess but it's not hardware accelerated.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:14 AM
Neat.
My lame 200th C++ answer: stackoverflow.com/a/26954725/1381108 :D
 
user1646075
7:49 AM
and he doesn't get it.
 
user1646075
8:26 AM
Caleb is in NCIS New Orleans? I'm gonna be expecting Sheriff Buck or Selena to wander in, or Meryln to materialise behind his head.
 
Xeo
@Mixerman123 Protip: Don't make an engine, make a game.
 
8:50 AM
mm
Using SFML
its not really an engine
its just a big clunk of parts.
 
user1646075
9:33 AM
Stop talking everyone. It's too rowdy in here and I can't keep up.
 
user1646075
Don't tell me the loungers actually go out of the house occasionally on the weekend.
 
No but I did sleep in
Zzzzzzzz, sleeping puppy
 
9:54 AM
@CatPlusPlus god damn you! I have a good mind to demand that 12.50 off you! I was fine without that game... so tempted... but such a tight month for me (well, trying to prove I can do it)
 
10:19 AM
Hm
We played this cool boardgame yesterday
 
10:31 AM
does this mean that emplace(position, args...) has to check if it's inserting at an end?
ugh I'm so confused
a.emplace(p, args) doesn't even list CopyInsertible as a requirement
 
10:57 AM
2
Q: MUMPS can't format Number to String

oxxioI am trying to convert larg number to string in MUMPS but I can't. Let me explain what I would like to do : s A="TEST_STRING#12168013110012340000000001" s B=$P(A,"#",2) s TAB(B)=1 s TAB(B)=1 I would like create an array TAB where variable B will be a primary key for array TAB. When I do ZWR ...

lol
 
user1646075
11:15 AM
MUMPS has to be one of the top contenders for wierdest programming language of all time.
 
To quote TDW: "The primary design goal MUMPS was to create code that, once written, can never be maintained by anyone ever again. "
 
@Nican Sounds like that was the goal of a lot of the code I maintain at work.
ah man, I like a lazy Sunday
 
I think I'll surpass 10k rep today!
Can't wait
 
congrats
 
11:33 AM
fucking dumbheads
my answer got to -2 because I called the commenter ignorant
there's something seriously wrong with SO
 
@BartekBanachewicz Bartek, what did you have for breakfast? Something sound I hope?
 
@Columbo no. I've realized I only have cereal for half a bowl.
 
@BartekBanachewicz See, that's why your mood is so shit.
 
no, it's shit because people downvoted my perfectly good answer
 
Where is it
 
11:39 AM
you don't have 10k yet
 
I'll upvote it for ya
 
I took it down.
 
Yeah, I saw that
Repost it then :o)
I.e. add another answer with the same content
 
no, not gonna. The accepted one is ok.
 
Well, okay then.
But srsly, I couldn't live without a bowl of cereal in the morning, in fact I'm gonna get one right now
 
11:40 AM
yeah also I'm still angry at my bsc teammates
that's worse
 
11:51 AM
Got my cereal
 
@BartekBanachewicz +1
:)
 
Afternoon scrubcakes
 
12:10 PM
@CatPlusPlus :( this better be worth the €12.50
 
user1804599
> Body must be at least 30 characters; you entered 3.
 
user1804599
WTF SO
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Factorio?
 
> The code I am writing with is massive and I build it by typing 'make' in the command prompt
can we spell unix noob
 
you vote it down because you think I didn't do a research? tsk tsk — robertpeter07 16 mins ago
hahah OP
 
12:18 PM
@Columbo why did you delete that answer?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because I am rephrasing it
And I now realize the real problem: The copying of a buffer into itself
 
till 60 minutes no new question can be posted by me... :( — Parveen 31 secs ago
oh look
the new system is working
 
user1804599
44
Q: Feedback requested: New "recommended" homepage, phase 4 - filters

Jarrod DixonWe've implemented the unpolished filters mockup from this question in an equally unpolished manner. Currently, this is only on the "recommended" tab, found here: http://stackoverflow.com/?tab=recommended A few notes: each option has a tooltip with more information (available on mouse o...

 
user1804599
Holy shit forth checkbox.
 
user1804599
That's a wonderful idea.
 
Xeo
12:24 PM
ooh, I like the default .gitignore VS'15 creates.
 
@Xeo how's that different from what 13 created?
 
Xeo
dunno, never tried with '13
 
@Xeo yeah ;P
 
Does anyone know if a member function can have an argument of its own class?
(C++)
 
user1804599
Of course it can. Why would it not be possible?
 
12:32 PM
@niCk Yes.
 
user1804599
 
@niCk Some assignment operators are implement through copy&swap, taking an object of their class type per value.
Or that would be copy&move in C++11 perhaps.
 
Thanks, can you share a situation in which case the bitwise representation will not lead to intmax + 1 = intmin, and intmin-1=intmax? — user87166 1 min ago
hmpfh, the dude doesn't get it
@niCk yes, and a copy constructor is the great example
 
@BartekBanachewicz @rightfold @Columbo thanks guys
 
oh lol
> Bartek's comment pretty much answers the question
 
12:37 PM
 
oopsie.
I did it again.
 
oh you...
I hate when people do that.
 
in my defence I often convert those to answers later
this time OP did it before me
 
user1804599
> nsa-hugging
 
rep rep rep
 
user1804599
12:40 PM
> nilsding starred Leafcat/Drachendildos 17 hours ago
 
lol java is the most popular tag on SO
 
@Jefffrey TIL that git is a word
 
I have so many books to read
Something like ~10, 5 of which I've already read half of.
 
I find it funny that Haskell has 9 types of arrays.
@Jefffrey yeah and never the time to read all that :/
 
12:53 PM
Guys is there any disadvantage of passing an vector (of class objects) as an argument in a member function, preferably by reference?
 
@niCk depends
depends on what is a "disadvantage" for you.
 
user1804599
y u no iterators
 
Xeo
> unresolved external symbol ___iob_func referenced in function _output_message
hmpf
 
rep rep rep
 
@BartekBanachewicz Banachewiz would be there any problem if the vector is declared to contain objects of a parent class and actually contains 4 different subclass types of objects (inserted there for example with dynamic_cast)?
 
1:01 PM
@niCk if you take them by value, slicing will occur
 
@niCk What are you trying to do?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I won't because if I take them by value I can't alter some crucial elements (variables of the objects)
 
@niCk elaborate
rep rep rep
 
@BartekBanachewicz hypothetically, example
Vector<ship> contains (somehow casted in?) <- Pirate,Recon,Trade,Medic (subclasses of ship)
member function move() <- (how to access the object's coordinates)
I only used vector as an literal index of all ships
 
yeah, if you want polymorphic behaviour you need pointers or references
 
1:09 PM
Don't use indexes
 
I'm loving Rust.
 
indexes aren't that bad actually
or in general non-language reference constructs
 
Pointers ftw
 
How the fuck is it called the witch that gives whitesnow the poisonous apple?
 
@Puppy smart handles vOv
 
1:10 PM
"witch"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz is it a bad practice to pass the whole vector as an argument to member function ? (given that it has different objects)
 
@niCk depends on what do you want to do with it. It might not be a language issue, but it might be a design issue
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks again
 
user1804599
 
what the fuck
2
Q: Why is the difference between an expression and a statement

Suleman Possible Duplicate: Expression Versus Statement What does expression mean? Something that evaluates to something, returns a value? How is it different from a statement. Can a statement contain an expression and vice versa?

why is a C question a dupe of C# question?
 
user1804599
1:21 PM
Because expressions and statements are the same things in C and C#.
 
user1804599
He's not asking for C-specific features.
 
user1804599
Repeating everything from the answer to the other question would be redundant and retarded.
 
@rightføld what the.. that's the worst excuse I've ever heard
 
user1804599
Go ahead and ask the same question for C++, D, Java, VB.NET, JavaScript and Go as well.
 
user1804599
All with exactly the same answers.
 
1:23 PM
if the other question was actually phrased as not belonging to any specific language; fine.
@rightføld "wicked solution, you rock man!" nope.
 
user1804599
Well, then attempt to unclose it. VOV
 
user1804599
I'll certainly not.
 
the problem is deeper than that question alone, and no; I won't try to unclose it.. if I cared enough I'd edit the other question to make it broader applicable. if I cared..
 
user1804599
Besides, the accepted answer to the question applies to many languages.
 
user1804599
Answering this one is just not worth it. The answer already exists elsewhere.
 
1:26 PM
@rightføld but the question doesn't, and you mark questions as dupes of questions.
anyhow, back to work. ploff
 
user1804599
1:37 PM
I don't care about questions.
 
user1804599
And certainly not about pedantry.
 
1:49 PM
what is wrong with pedantry?
 
user1804599
In this case it is counterproductive.
 
user1804599
TIL Salesforce.com acquired Heroku.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp You used a semi-colon incorrectly... Argh!
It's supposed to be used to combine two seperate clauses without the use of a conjunction.
 
@Nooble am I supposed to care enough to apologize?
 
Five more upvotes.. heavy breathing
 

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