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user1804599
12:00 PM
NetHack with isometric graphics looks nice.
 
user1646075
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the situation involved a guy basically trying to groom her in 'normal' dates, then springing this on her: al-islam.org/…
 
@aclarke unlike every other religious book, you mean? :p
 
user1646075
and from my brief reading of these rules - he wasn't even doing it according to their own rules.
 
Ell
ughhhh why am I getting a null pointer exception :'(
 
if you're going to live your life by a book written generations ago, you'd better have a damn good interpreter to tell you which bits to ignore
 
Ell
12:02 PM
or you should just not do that
 
user1646075
@jalf i do not mean that at all !-) I'm more athiest than Richard Dawkins I think...
 
oooh, what music to listen to...
 
user1646075
he's willing to accept that since he doesn't know that religion is proven false, he's willing to acknowledge that it might after all be true. I am not. Thus, Richard Dawkins is a pussy.
 
continue with the Industrial... maybe
 
user1646075
@thecoshman Gregorian chants.
 
12:03 PM
@aclarke yeah, I was just making an observation. Wasn't accusing you of anything :)
 
user1646075
@jalf I know.
 
@aclarke religion has been proven false? When did that happen?
 
I'll just continue with this (warning, not metal!)
 
user1646075
@jalf that's the point, since it hasn't, a 'reasonable' person, apparently, should allow that at might be proven true.
 
Religions are proven to be illogical piles of crap
 
user1646075
12:06 PM
@CatPlusPlus try to convince a believer of that...
 
What can't be (dis)proven is existence of a higher power or afterlife or whatever but really who cares about that, that's not the issue with religions
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@jalf about the time bullshit wasn't called out vOv
 
if only religious people concentrated more on being useful while alive, than on what happens after they die
 
@aclarke That seems like logic to me. If we can't prove something to be false, then we can't be certain that it is false. That's kind of what proof is
Has nothing to do with religion specifically. I can't prove that there's no teapot orbiting the Sun out beyond Mars. I'm willing to bet that there isn't, but I can't be certain. :)
 
user1646075
@jalf /insert some mumble about falsifiable theories/ - if I say that the world was created by a small frog in my back yard, it really should be up to me to supply evidence, or any reasonable person has a right to call it false without further regard.
 
user1646075
12:09 PM
@jalf actually we can prove that now...
 
@jalf doesn't this fall back to the 'tea pot orbiting earth' argument? We almost certainly can't prove there isn't one, but by applying a bit of common sense, you can come to a solid conclusion that there isn't.
 
@aclarke no we can't
 
even if we could, it's a moot point, just say it's orbiting out past the Oort cloud.
 
user1646075
@CatPlusPlus biggest practical problem with religions IMO is that they effectively mandate separation of people. "We know the truth, therefore everyone else is wrong, a heathen, a fool, and if they argue with us, we have a right to ... fix them"
 
anyway, my point is just that we have to allow for the theoretical possibility that we're wrong. But that's all it is. A theoretical possibility, something that on paper could be true, but in practice we're pretty damn sure it isn't
 
user1646075
12:11 PM
@jalf Hubble could easily be pointed at that small region of space, and also a craft could conceivably be sent to look
 
That and also spews opinions that are worthless and should die in fire
 
I don't think you realize how big space is. :p
 
Mindboggingly big
 
user1646075
@jalf which is why Richard Dawkins calls himself a level 4 dis-believer. He puts an absolute disbeliever at 5 - and I choose to go into that category. Insane ideas do not deserve regard
 
I don't have any dictionaries installed
 
12:12 PM
which craft do you propose to send, that could traverse that entire orbit, observing every teapot-sized object?
 
@jalf it's also besides the point.
 
@thecoshman For someone looking for teapots orbiting a star, I think it's a fairly relevant point :p
 
Coincidentally Dawkins has his own set of terrible opinions
 
user1646075
@jalf space is big - HUGE - but in principle, scanning earth's relatively smaller orbit completelty is not beyond current or soon-to-be-available technology.
 
user1804599
Dawkins is funny.
 
12:14 PM
Earth's orbit is 80% garbage
 
user1646075
@CatPlusPlus yeah shame on him for discussing the subject like a pukka English intellectual. No wonder he's so evil!
 
@aclarke It kind of is, yes. And the orbit we're talking about here would be significantly bigger. But as @thecoshman said, it doesn't matter.
 
user1646075
@jalf well, no it doesn't, but the point of a theory being provable is pivotal.
 
user1646075
provable OR dis-provable.
 
@aclarke that's a commentary on how certain people interpret religions. There's nothing inherent about a belief in the divine that means you're also intolerant.
 
user1646075
12:17 PM
@TheForestAndTheTrees it's the few certain people interpreting it that way which cause most of the problems. Especially when they get a crew of young men behind them chanting slogans and waving weapons around.
 
@jalf it is, but that's not the point of the point.
@aclarke ok, yes, technically, given enough resources and time we could scan entire regions of space and determine they contain no teapot. But in our lifetime, we could not know if another galaxy has, at this very second, a teapot. As such, we can either believe that there is, or that there is not.
 
user1646075
@TheForestAndTheTrees also I do think it's inherent in a religion. A divine truth - or whatever it is chosen to be called - that is held purely on faith, ultimately separates people into us and them. No cult can keep it's members if it's willing to say "oh yes, the teapotters have a valid point and we should consider whether to follow them"
 
@aclarke I think the point is that "insane" is subjective so you are essentially being a bigot
 
user1646075
@thecoshman I hope you can see, however, that in principle, it is still provable or dis-provable. Practicality has little to do with it. This ability to formulate a reasonable proof or disproof is what separates a theory from psychotic rambling.
 
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user1804599
12:23 PM
Yum, salt.
 
user1646075
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and you are now essentially being your usual provocative self.
 
Better not forget to clear anything
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus lol mutable
 
@aclarke you're the one calling all his opponents insane.
 
user1646075
@TheForestAndTheTrees i am informally rephrasing his entire works in a simple word.
 
12:24 PM
@aclarke but to state that right now there is indeed a teapot in some other galaxy can not be proved.
 
@aclarke you're the one saying that we should disregard the theorical chance that religion might be true, and focus on the practicality that it almost certainly isn't
consistency, ho!
 
user1646075
@thecoshman en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability - see first paragraph is what I'm trying to say.
 
also, I'm bored now. :p
 
user1646075
@jalf no, only stating my personal choice
 
ooooh my... Oort Cloud really is a crazy distance away. Equally, so very close.
@aclarke I get what you are saying, but you are having to factor in the most ludicrous pre-conditions.
"I can prove God doesn't exist if I had a magical machine that tells me if their is a God." yeah, no.
 
user1646075
12:26 PM
@thecoshman at which point, everything rests on faith. Even the sun appearing tomorrow at dawn is a matter of faith.
 
@aclarke yup. And gravity might be turned off tomorrow at 3pm. We just don't know :D
there, enough faffing around with stuff we all agree on anyway. New topic!
 
user1646075
@jalf i'd like to try that actually. Would be nice to know what time it's going to be switched on again so I can be close to the ground by then
 
@aclarke Except simple logic states there are no extra-terrestrial teapots, the sun will continue to be orbited and there is no God.
 
user1646075
@jalf you think we've skirted the issue without turning into a shit-fight? Well done us.
 
user1646075
@thecoshman the sun rising is induction.
 
12:28 PM
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I'm seeing some "for(uint32 i(0);..." declaration. Is there any advantage to using this style of initialization over uint32 i = 0;?
 
user1646075
assuming that physical laws will continue to apply... induction based on prior experience, and also the fact that the theory of ... all that ... is so successful in predicting many things.
 
Xeo
Maybe the = was broken at the time of writing
 
user1646075
@Miklas i believe it's faster on little-endian architectures.
 
user1804599
wat
 
12:31 PM
@aclarke as I said, simple logic.
@aclarke sigh, are we back to this topic of bullshit with no evidence thing again?
 
user1646075
@thecoshman logics ain't simple.
 
user1646075
@thecoshman no, i'm a firm believer in the laws of physics.
 
what do the laws of physics have to say about little-endian architectures?
 
@aclarke I do not believe in them, I accept them as fact.
@jalf electrons man!
 
Yum, cake.
 
user1646075
12:33 PM
@jalf they're not proven to exist?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wants :(
 
user1646075
@thecoshman that's because you're more on the side of science than religion, I guess. Have you never observed a religious believer trying to prove that science is matter of faith, therefore all you need is faith... It's quite a popular stance.
 
life is a matter of faith
now beat it :)
 
Pity about the crosslines.
 
not a teapot, though
 
12:36 PM
I love life coz the more oxygen I take, the less 4 u
telkitty - hogging oxygen since 19xx
 
I hope they publish a higher-res and properly assembled mosaic.
 
Ell
Believing scientific studies is faith
 
@aclarke I have yes. They tend to rely on ignorance.
 
Ell
A lot less faith than religion requires, mind
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooh, is that that lander probe thingy?
 
12:37 PM
No, it's an asteroid :P
(Yes, it's the one where Philae will land soon)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ god damn you and your ass
 
A bit more than a month from now.
Can't wait.
 
user1646075
@Ell yes, it's a fine line between believing a theory and believing an unprovable claim.
 
RHEL won't let me update any packages because my subscription details need updating. subscription-manager won't let me update my details until I update its package.
 
user1646075
@sehe morning (?) squire. Dude, the removal. Why so quick.
 
12:40 PM
@aclarke It's not unprovable.
 
user1646075
@R.MartinhoFernandes hang on, what is?
 
Ell
@aclarke not even that, you have to have faith that people are proving things when they say they are, you have to believe the scientific journals
Scientists can lie
 
@aclarke The usual claims about godlike entities or whatever.
The important property of scientific theories is not that they can be proven.
 
user1646075
@Ell i take that as "in principle, I could follow their work and show for myself with direct evidence that satisfies me; so i'll take (the scientists) word for it'
 
It's that can be disproven.
It can't be a scientific theory if it can't be falsified.
 
12:42 PM
We're doing a high-availability webscale Hadoop project
This is actually exciting
 
user1646075
@R.MartinhoFernandes exactly!
 
The other part is not relevant.
@aclarke Well, you described it as unprovable. That's wrong.
 
Ell
@aclarke right but most of the time we cant do it ourselves because we don't have the resource
 
There's a simple proof: said entity makes itself clearly and unambiguously known.
 
Ell
Which is where the faith comes in
 
12:43 PM
@CatPlusPlus of course, it's new. give it a week and you'll hate it.
 
Maybe
 
@CatPlusPlus if it takes that long :P
 
user1646075
@Ell don't be so harsh on yourself. You could have been on the teams recently working on discovering the Higgs boson.
 
What's "webscale"?
 
user1646075
@R.MartinhoFernandes that would be nice.
 
Ell
12:44 PM
Haha I don't think so :P
 
I get to do the overall architecture and play in a private cloud with a looooooooooooot of resources
 
@jalf marketing
 
So it'll be fun at least until it launches
:v
 
"big enough for the internet"
 
@jalf webscale is webscale
 
user1646075
12:44 PM
@Ell actually I think I might not qualify for that team either, even with several years of study ;-(
 
No it just needs to scale well
We're starting with 300k users
And it's expected to grow a lot
 
Ell
Starting with 300k?
 
And then maybe we'll start working on another project that also needs to scale but starts with several M
So lessons learned etc
@Ell We're rewriting an existing thing
 
Ell
Oh right
 
Which is running on MySQL and PHP and is, unsurprisingly, crap
 
12:47 PM
@aclarke dunno. I thought I was very clumsy doing that just now. (I don't have SE Chat Extensions installed here and that's what I usually do: ^<Up>^D)
 
user1646075
@sehe I just feel sad for missing your brief flash of brilliance ;-/ that is, I assume it was
 
@CatPlusPlus use MongoDB
 
It's already using MySQL
 
Not sure which is worst.
 
I don't even know what kind of system Mongo is or tries to be
lol CP
my ass
 
12:52 PM
@aclarke nah. I just merged the two separate lines into one post. Implement, Test, Refactor, Test!
16 mins ago, by sehe
now beat it :)
 
user1646075
@sehe brilliant.
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus a web scale system
 
We're going for AP anyway
 
@aclarke It is, I'll concede that
 
Also Mongo is MySQL of NoSQL
We'll probably use Cassandra
 
user1804599
12:53 PM
Neo4j is pretty nice.
 
I don't need graphs
Also the free edition is really gimped
 
I'm changing the meaning of a parameter in a detail function, without changing its type. Adding , int to_cause_errors to use CAR (compiler-aided refactoring).
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus I do :D
 
Hello All!
 
user1804599
Hello, @vimes1984!
 
12:55 PM
> n the sense of the CAP theorem, Neo4j is on the CA side of the CAP triangle, in opposition to many other NoSQL databases that 'sacrifice' A or C for P.
 
:D
 
ahahahahahah CA
It's broken
 
I'm a web dev looking to learn c++ but a bit confused on where to start
 
P is not optional
 
@CatPlusPlus That doesn't change the fact that I was talking about the current situation.
 
12:56 PM
@vimes1984 please don't learn it
 
I'm running Ubuntu
 
Because iunno
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus why?
 
why?
 
user1804599
Oh wait.
 
12:56 PM
@Sofffia Setting a rule that's going to be working against us very soon is incredibly short-sighted
 
@LucDanton looks like I've dropped the ball on that one. I'm going to update explaining how Boost Proto/Phoenix resist persistence, and just generally repeat what I said, but louder: "Don't be clever"
 
@abyx ?
 
@vimes1984 exactly! why would you want that?
@vimes1984 ?!
 
@CatPlusPlus Setting a rule that is going to possibly prevent any other rule from being accepted is fairly dumb.
 
It's not even "it might be problematic down the road", it will be problematic and very very soon
 
user1804599
12:57 PM
@CatPlusPlus Does it mean that it fails in a when one node in a distributed environment fails, or when the file system is corrupt?
 
@Sofffia What
 
See Sam, see Bartek, see Cosh
 
user1804599
I'm not entirely familiar with CAP.
 
@Sofffia It is with unanimity.
 
@vimes1984 I'm letting my computer do that for me; I suddenly find that I have much more time to spare
 
12:57 PM
@rightføld You can't protect from FS corruption
 
user1804599
Right.
 
@CatPlusPlus Unanimity is always required for immutable -> mutable.
 
user1804599
We only have one node and like a hundred users.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well yes, but I don't imagine that'd be majority of votes
 
@CatPlusPlus If we had some problematic player that couldn't satisfy the requirement of voting within X days, no rule would pass with unanimity and negative default.
 
12:58 PM
why shouldn't I learn. Im not looking for a carrer move I'm just curious...
 
@Sofffia It basically makes the "unanimity" mean "not-unanimity".
 
I.e. enact/amend/repel of already mutable things will be far more common
 
I'll vote against any such thing.
Unanimity has to have everyone on board.
 
user1804599
4277
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

 
@CatPlusPlus there is a rule that specifically states transmuting must be unanimous
 
12:59 PM
@rightføld Node going down is a partition situation
 
It's silly to have an "unanimous" vote pass if not everyone voted.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unanimity means that everyone must vote positively.
 
Perfect thank you @rightfold
 
@thecoshman YES I KNOW THANK YOU
 
1:10 PM
101 messages moved to Trash
Sorry folks.
 
o_0
 
I'm not being obstructionist. I'm being an absentee.
 
what was that?
 
You made it so absentee == obstructionist.
Not my fault.
 
Ugh
I have no idea what's so hard to understand about this thing
 
1:11 PM
I'm asking myself the same thing.
 
We get it. You want to be an ass in order to be right or something. People are complaining, though.
 
I'm asking to be precise.
If you say "with unanimity the default voting is positive, with majority it's negative" I'll be fine.
If you don't, I'll make it pass to show you why it was wrong.
 
No, that's broken because transmutations always need unanimity
 
How is that broken?
 
1:17 PM
@Sofffia hint: if you don't like a proposal, don't vote for it.
also, @R.MartinhoFernandes I thought you were older than plastic? I had you down as a mostly metal guy.
 
ergh... I didn't see you edited whilst I was replying
 
1:55 PM
yay, got RHEL subscriptions working
go me
that was what made my boss unspool last week
and i solved it in half an hour in the end
\o/
 
Ell
I'm stuck on this silly thing. My reference is fine before I pass it to the java side. It seems to become invalid as it's being passed :S
 
Debugging an optimised build?
Or UB.
 
Ell
Probably UB.
I've tried to write an SSCCE but can't
I'll just keep trying I guess. I wish I could get the address of a java object from the java side somehow :S
jdb might be able to do it. Hmm
 
user1804599
@Ell sucks with compacting GCs.
 
2:13 PM
@Ell That address can change between collections.
In .NET you have to pin the pointer and that can fuck up GC performance.
 
Ell
I'm obviously not doing it right in jvm, but I'm calling env->NewGlobalRef(my_jobject)
I just wish I could see the jobject that I'm passing on the native side and the jvm side to see if they are the same
and I've put assertions everywhere that an instance of Ref (my class) is valid by checking the underlying jobject :S
Hmmmmm
 
Generate wrappers instead of writing JNI code by hand :v
 
Ell
I'm not even wrapping anything :P
I'm writing JNI code by hand for the pure fun of it :D
3
I wonder if that sentence has ever been said before
 
@CatPlusPlus ergh... who's using JNI?
@Ell lol
 
@Ell No
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
P/Invoke ftw.
 
Xeo
sigh
time to build an ad-hoc ipa
 
Ell
indian pale ale?
 
Xeo
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Q: Is it possible to convert an IO type to Arbitrary?

kaibakkerI am building a Sudoku solver in Haskell, and I have a function genProblemm :: Node -> IO Node for generating Sudoku puzzles. Is it possible to make Node arbitrary? I couldn't find a general way.. I only got as far as the type: instance Arbitrary Node where arbitraty =

this question is all over the place...
 
2:43 PM
I found what my previous problem was. It was similar to this problem. And some smart guy had the answer... :) — Dr. P3pp3r 9 mins ago
@TemplateRex ^ so I was previously aware of that context
 
Hello! What I (how a programmer) should do know about processes and threads?
 
"how a programmer"?
 
@Griwes Read it as "as a programmer".
 
I can't, it's definitely not what is written.
 
user1804599
@Xeo That guy misspelled "Nijmegen"
 
user1804599
2:48 PM
And lots of other things.
 
My inner parser returned ENOPARSE.
 
What is it written in? Your inner parser I mean.
 
You should get that checked
 
Ell
yay I think I found my problem
 
@Sofffia In my personal vaporlang.
 
2:50 PM
@Griwes Eww return error codes.
 
@Ell Was it writing JNI by hand?
 
OK. What I should know about processes and threads (as a programmer). Damn my english...
 
Ell
@Griwes Nope
 
Oh look Griwes.
I was right.
Who would have guessed.
Me. I guessed it.
 
You are too nice to people. You will make people think this room is nice.
 
Ell
2:51 PM
Erm... I'm not sure if this address is a coincidence or a sign: 0x7fbad4001518
 
@Griwes This room is nice. Fuck your grumpiness. :D
 
Pff.
 
@QueueOverflow Stuff? I'm not sure how to answer that.
 
mean boys - the online reality show ... exclusively in Lounge<C++>
 
Ell
I did find the problem. But I don't know how to fix it
 
2:54 PM
I might not be a boy, but I act like one. A newbie would not tell the difference anyways
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I just know a definition of ones, a difference between processes and threads, some peculiarities of ones, and... nothing else. I worked with them, but I feel himself too badly at theory.
 
Ell
jvalue to_jvalue(Ref r) {
    return r;
}
jvalue implicit_conversion = bar;
jvalue sorta_explicit = to_jvalue(bar); //why does this give me something different? :'(
 
Sorry for my English. Please correct me, if I mistaken...
 
Ell
jvalue is a union.
 
@QueueOverflow If you're curious, well read about it until your curiosity is sated. If you need it for some task, read about it until you know enough to perform that task. Otherwise, don't.
 
Ell
3:01 PM
Ahhh I'm an idiot
5
 
The starboard works in mysterious ways.
@Ell So it was UB.
 
-4
Q: How double can store 1024 bits in just 8 bytes in C++?

rockoI can't figure what's going on here. I find size of following data types in bytes: char:1 int:4 float:4 double:8 long long int:8 Now long long int max size is 9223372036854775807 whereas double max size is 179769313486231570814527423731704356798070567525844996598917476803157260780028538760589...

Why the downvotes? I like the question and voted it up.
 
ugh, I disliked that shit the most in the computational logic course
I felt like taking mantissas and throwing them at random people to inflict pain
 
@chmod711telkitty If you act like a boy, I'll cancel the trip and hang out with my bros instead.
 
Ell
3:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think so. I think it was because I was copying Ref, which reassigns the internal jobject to a new one with env->NewGlobalRef. But then the Ref is destroyed, so it does env->DeleteGlobalRef, which makes the returned jvalue useless. Now I'm taking it by const&
Unless there is other UB you can see somehow? :P
 
@FredOverflow what trip?
 
Chat is trash
 
What the fuck is a jvalue? Aren't lvalues, xvalues, prvalues, glvalues and rvalues enough?
@chmod711telkitty Didn't you invite me over the other day?
 
Ell
Haha
 
@FredOverflow better now?
totally lady like ...
 
3:14 PM
I don't like makeup. It reminds me too much of make.
 
Ell
I was returning a jvalue to a temporary basically
 
monkey would be dishearted ... but I am not the monkey so it's okay ~_~
 
user1804599
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Q: Why do microwave ovens, with metal walls, not blow up?

KamilWhy does a microwave oven with metal (?) walls work fine, but if I (theoretically) put a metal spoon in it, "bad things" may happen? Maybe these internal walls are not conductive?

 
user1804599
I have always been wondering about this. :)
 
@FredOverflow are you seriously thinking of coming over?
 
3:18 PM
5
Q: Can I have non owning shared pointers?

Nikos AthanasiouIntro The question arose from the need for a conditional interface. It may be so that I fell into an XY problem, but (bottom line) I ended up needing a shared pointer that would ( based on a runtime choice ) either manage or not (own or not) a resource. Work so far The following are some thoug...

@chmod711telkitty lol no, I don't even know where you live.
 
lol, time with bros then ~_~
 
@FredOverflow dafuq
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The picture or the question?
 
The question.
 
I didn't actually read it, but the title is hilarious :)
 
3:23 PM
> Demonstrate your knowledge

1. Let N be a number such that 0xff = 0xc0 + N. Find N in decimal.
What a terrible question.
 
user1804599
lol
 
It deserves "Demonstrate your knowledge: 1. Let N be a number and R one of its representations. Find N in decimal."
 
Ell
I still have copies elsewhere. Hmm
Copies shouldn't break it :'(
They don't. Hmmmm gaaah ajsdlkjasdlk
my suspicion now is that the copying a bound functor is copying the bound argument, which is causing issues. I'm not so sure though
 
3:42 PM
Brain teaser of the day, brought to you by my sloppy fingers:
int a[10][4][3];
...
if (a[i][k] != 0)
{
    //     ^ oops, forgot the third index operation...
    //       But it still compiles! WTF is going on?
}
 
Null pointer bullshit, as always.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love how the program checks that array-to-pointer decay did not create a null pointer :-D
 
this game has some good music
 
@rightføld isn't he cute?
also hi!
 
user1804599
He's a moron.
 
3:51 PM
Can't wait for his "summary answer"
lol
 
user1804599
Can I turn off notifications for a thread please?
 
Well, I'm done, and probably he also is.
 
user1804599
I wonder if it's possible to call Haskell functions from C without using Haskell FFI.
 
user1804599
Probably requires shitloads of hassle.
 
user1804599
Hassle HOF.
 
Ell
3:55 PM
probably requires shitloads of haskll
 
David Haskellhoff
 
user1804599
HOFs in Java are so much hassle, David disapproves!
 
user1804599
I was thinking of how I could implement extern "Haskell" in Styx.
 
With Monads maybe?
 
user1804599
I could generate Haskell code that uses FFI and invoke GHC from within my compiler. :)
 
3:57 PM
That doesn't sound like an insane idea at all.
 
user1804599
And extern "Java" with JNI lol.
 
user1804599
Can you embed a JVM?
 
user1804599
Woot JNI_CreateJavaVM.
 

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