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10:00 PM
And there were the 'trope years' (? is that a thing in English?) when I built software in VB6. That was actually OK
 
@sehe I did have TP 4.0 on a PC for a little while, but only a few months later I picked up a snazzy new "C" compiler, and that was the beginning of the end.
 
@JerryCoffin I never met a C compiler. I bet Borland C++ 3.1 came with it, but no one told me :/ I remember being confounded when I read C programs. Thinking "WTF, they told me this was gonna be similar"
@JerryCoffin I did make a lot of flight hours in Turbo Pascal 4, 5.0, 5.5, 6.0 and 7. Even some serious stuff.
I suppose I could say I owe my professional career to illegal copies of Borland's IDEs and compilers.
@BartekBanachewicz Good thing that everybody is always 'in 0.001% of society'. Phew
 
@sehe you're using Xubuntu, ain't you?
 
@BartekBanachewicz wrong
 
10:08 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Ubunti (of all sorts) and Debianiæ
@BartekBanachewicz Pay close attention to the subject-messages of those replies :/
 
hmm.. anyone know if there's been a proposal for something similar to make_array that could be used as auto arr = make_array<T, 3> (args...); which would be the same as std::array<T, 3> arr = {T (args...), T (args...), T (args...) };
maybe that wouldn't make sense though
 
@sehe I knew what this was a reply to. I don't think it was an overgeneralization, TBH. You know, maybe I've been brainwashed, but all the Intel videos showing PC<->Human interaction made me think about how software for humans should be made. And incidentally, Ubuntu is called linux for human beings
 
it's not like I feel a need for it really, just that it should be a way of creating an array of type T where std::is_default_constructable<T>::value == false
with an overload for make_array<T, N> (T const&)
the name isn't really.. suitable, though
 
Now... who cares what it's called (it's "called" Windows, too...). Some people care. They actually do.
@BartekBanachewicz You can say 'people don't care', but you can't say 'nobody cares'. If you don't think that's an overgeneralization then ...
5 hours ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
who are you trying to fool now, me or yourself?
 
@sehe Every "nobody" and "everyone" of my statements should be read as they had "nearly" in front of them
 
Xeo
10:15 PM
okay, now I'm completely confused.
 
*nearly every :)
 
> After much discussion, still strong consensus (in the concurrency group) to deprecate async(). We'll see how Friday's vote goes. #wg21 #cxx Tweeted by stefanusdutoit on September 23, 2013 at 10:08 PM
^ o wow
 
Xeo
I'm getting the ß from a socket, and even if I use Data.Text directly there, it doesn't help.
 
@sehe @R.MartinhoFernandes gonna be happy
 
@BartekBanachewicz Of course not.
 
Xeo
10:16 PM
msg <- T.hGetLine h
T.putStrLn msg -- <stdout>: blah blah ...
 
He doesn't like it when the language get's scarred from a clusterfuck. But, yeah, it'll be better than meddling on.
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, sweet. nice arguing in that fashion :/
 
any of you opengl geeks?
 
<ducks/>
 
Ell
Bartek is opengl
 
steamOS
 
10:20 PM
@ÓlafurWaage sup?
 
1 sec, preparing a picture for an example
 
@sehe :F Okay, I'll try to explicitely qualify this kind of statements in the future.
 
dont know what to call this glitch, some textures are loaded in a strange way
like they are tilted in a 45 degree angle
and wrap, but others work fine
 
lol wat.
pic or didn't happen (actually not joking now, I've been able to pinpoint the image issues by looking at output way too often on SO)
 
Xeo
huh, funny. trace has no problem outputting the character (although it outputs it as a completely different one, but hey, it doesn't crash)
 
10:22 PM
I'm deploying Rails on Windows Server
THIS WILL BE FUN
 
@BartekBanachewicz i.imgur.com/yk34hMO.png
Using libjpeg-turbo
 
Ell
Ferrk so bunged up
Wrong pixel layout?
 
if you want texture loading code i can dump that too
other images load just fine
 
Ugh even thinking about it makes me sick.
Maybe I should do a VM.
 
@ÓlafurWaage what if you set it to nowrap?
 
10:26 PM
1 sec
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh no you won't :) Of course you'll try, until you lose your patience. And it's so fashionable to lose one's patience in the lounge, it'll be too hard to resist temptation.
I don't mind much. I'll just keep pointing the other way. And I believe you will actually try. This is worth something to me
 
@sehe hey, I'm actually making progress here! :<
@ÓlafurWaage I mean what the effect is?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ^ two lines up
 
Ell
I hope nobody notices when I lose my temper
 
10:27 PM
@Ell you're kinda in my shadow when it happens :)
 
same, no difference
 
@Ell That's been a long time ago. You don't act out, though
 
Ell
I try not to, its not very constructive
 
@ÓlafurWaage okey, you need gDEBugger. Free download, will allow you to explore raw memory images.
 
Ell
10:28 PM
Emotion closed as: not constructive
 
Xeo
grah, fuck this shit.
 
cool, ok i will look at that
 
@Xeo on behalf of the GRML community, thanks! Grahcias, I might add
 
@ÓlafurWaage gluBuildMipmaps can be at fault here. Is it a Power-Of-Two sized texture?
@ÓlafurWaage you might want to use glGenerateMipmap instead (requires GL 3.x or GLES 2.x)
 
10:32 PM
it is not a power of two texture
AHA, that might be the case
god damn it
 
if some are and some aren't, it might be it.
anyway you should be using the glGenerateMipmap instead, if possible
 
@sehe knows me too well :|
2
 
we have no minimum requirement of gl, so requiring GL3 is no issue
 
@BartekBanachewicz how is Harvest going?
 
10:34 PM
@Pawnguy7 Latest Lua one is on about 80% of functionality of the C++ version
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes cheers. I love that they're addressing it. Even if it can only start with negative action
 
@ÓlafurWaage don't forget to post here if it worked or not.
 
will do
 
Ok. I'm very new to programming (~3 days!) so I didn't know what to search for. I found the implementation that I need to study here: bioen.okstate.edu/Home/prashm%20-%20keep/prashant/…user2071506 1 min ago
Huh how did that answer get upvoted. And his comment is ridiculous. I googled GNU libc rand. Literally
 
Arrgg PayPal hasn't replied yet to my second request to update my account to Germany.
It's been weeks now.
I should just makes a new one.
 
10:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, email the CEO directly.
not kidding.
 
Hack his paypal account
 
I doubt he's using paypal.
 
What is the word for that... using your own products.
 
@Pawnguy7 dogfooding
I have more upvotes in than in :S
 
It's silly enough that I can't change it on the website. Ignoring my requests for help for months the first time and for weeks now is just ridiculous.
 
Xeo
10:43 PM
Robot, I'll have some questions regarding Haskell, Network and Unicode for you tomorrow. Just FYI.
 
Xeo
If I don't have an epiphany in my sleep
 
Sleep. Good point
 
Xeo
So yeah, on that note, g'night.
 
10:45 PM
Gambit Gaming versus Naijin Black Sword just starting
go go Gambit <3
 
C, C++, C#, Objective-C, Java, Visual Basic/BASIC, FORTRAN, JavaScript, PHP, Lua
Now that I think of it, that isn't a very good list.
 
@Pawnguy7 it doesn't contain Haskell
 
And it does contain FORTRAN. I don't know what I was thinking...
 
@Pawnguy7 you learned FORTRAN ?!
 
@A.H. No. That is why I have no idea why it is in the list.
Nobody starts programming with that now. At least that I have heard of.
 
10:52 PM
holyshit and php ?!
 
It isn't a list of what I have learned.
 
oh ok
is it what you plan on learning ?
 
Not particularly.
"In fact, it is difficult to list half of the commonly used ones. C, C++, C#, Objective-C, Java, Visual Basic/BASIC, FORTRAN, JavaScript, PHP, Lua . . . the list goes on. "
The essay I was working on.
 
oh
 
Not sure if Lua is either, I just hear it a lot from Bartek :D
I am thinking, maybe I should add Python.
 
10:54 PM
might want to add Python
lol
 
Should VB and BASIC be listed together?
 
No idea never cared about them
 
I have only touched VB of the two, and only briefly. As I understand it, it is similar to BASIC, but I don't know.
 
 
@sehe You're summoning Tony?
 
10:59 PM
Of course. Look at the letter 'E', though :)
 
@sehe Oh... that's clever
 
:)
Night all
 
Night
 
@BartekBanachewicz
bah
@BartekBanachewicz resizing the image worked, but not creating mipmaps
did it the legacy way glTexParameteri(GL_TEXTURE_2D, GL_GENERATE_MIPMAP, GL_TRUE);
which allowed me to not use the glu function but just glTexImage2D
same results, but just resizing the image worked
 
@ÓlafurWaage so glGenerateMipmap didn't work?
 
11:17 PM
@sehe gnight
 
its using QtOpenGL to render stuff
seems that the glGenerateMipMap is not in Qt 4
or that I dont know where it is hiding
but they say that this texparameter is the same thing
 
11:34 PM
Formal writing :\
 
Morning
 
Rather early morning?
 
How you doin'?
 
11:51 PM
github.com/typhoeus/typhoeus this fucking library is seriously annyoing
If anyone is actually using this shit language and could give me an alternative thaat'd beee greeaaat
 
I know, right? Fucking Ruby!
Why are you even using that shitty language anyway?
 
Because project
 
ruby?
 

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