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3:00 PM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 they moved your message to the bin. You can still get it if you need it, permalink to it or something
 
You can't include OpenGL.
 
@Jefffrey What libraries?
 
@JABFreeware I know, lol
 
@CatPlusPlus #include <opengl32.lib>
 
#include <Annoy128.lib>
 
yes indeed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OpenGL and OpenAL?
 
well I have better things to do then chat in the Lounge as I dont even live in Cali
 
@melak47 lol
 
so carry on....
 
3:04 PM
> Thanks for your feedback. We are rerouting this issue to the appropriate group within the Visual Studio Product Team for triage and resolution. These specialized experts will follow-up with your issue. -- Microsoft
@R.MartinhoFernandes who knows, maybe they'll fix the empty pack substitution :)
 
Yeah, right.
 
Xeo
"Has workaround, wontfix"
"Clang also doesn't have it, wontfix"
 
guys, stahp
they'll hear you ._.
 
"It makes the robot happy, wontfix"
 
3:05 PM
WANT FAX
3
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, happy robots would be bad
They might think of usurping us.
 
Right, unhappy ones won't.
NOW DO MY BIDDING.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes They won't have time to think about that while they wail in their own misery.
 
@Xeo what workaround? "don't use empty packs" ?
 
Xeo
@melak47 = 0 :D
 
3:08 PM
@Xeo but default template arguments and parameter packs are not the same! :(
 
??
 
they don't have to know that we want to use it for prettier EnableIf :p
 
so the real question is
do I eat?
I'm hungry, but I already feel kinda sick again...
 
@DeadMG what's your doctor say
 
@melak47 Will send me a recommendation for surgery.
 
3:09 PM
@DeadMG Oh oh oh.
 
Lounge<California>? what did I miss :p
 
21 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
You can never leave.
 
@DeadMG That's good news right?
 
should fuckin' hope so
considering that right now, my only choices are between eating and being horribly sick
 
Missed-a-not.
 
3:26 PM
 
YAY
<little dance/>
I just landed my new job. Signing on monday.
 
@sehe Awww yeah.
 
@sehe gratz :)
 
It's a nice job. C++. Hightech algorithms stuff involved. Win/Mac/Linux as well as Mobile(iOS/Android) in the pipeline. Even if it'll turn out to be only for 2 years it'll be a good boost to my CV
 
I already have boost on my CV.
 
3:30 PM
lol
I didn't. I didn't even have a CV. I faked one up right at the very last moment (2nd interview, 1 hour in advance... oops)
 
Mobile and nice don't go together.
I still don't have a CV.
 
Good thing I could just (truthfully) explain I wasn't looking for a job
That's a bit of a shame for the other candidates that apparently have been put aside.
Okay, I'm gonna celebrate afk for a while. Cheers
 
My boss said he found my CV a bit unusual but he loved it because it felt so honest. Even though I sent it only as a formality for the bureaucratic folks (my interview was way before that, and over drinks)
 
@Pawnguy7 For what?
 
@Jefffrey For the screensaver crashing for some people.
 
3:35 PM
@Pawnguy7 What math problem was that?
 
> jenkins is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
I always feel guilty when I fuck up like this.
 
@Jefffrey Really simple. Given the view, to calculate the left and right (and previously, up and down) block edges.
 
A good way to format a CV is to fill your LinkedIn profile, then copy & paste everything into word
Looks all nice and formatted
I was told by multiple people that the format of my CV sucked before I did that
 
So there's this guy who made this sort of "epic retelling" of Metroid's story. He left out Other M.
 
but it ended getting me 5+ jobs, so I gathered that formatting wasn't important ...
 
3:45 PM
> This APT has Super Cow Powers.
 
0
Q: C++ if statement

user2769351I'm trying to make "Lights out" c++ console game, but I've ran into problem: I've used numbers divining to depend if its on or off light like: if(a1/2){a1s="*";}else{a1s="o";}; , but, this statement fails after one use: it remains on if you start from off board. Is there any way to "refresh" ...

part of me just died
 
Wow
 
JBL
Mmh, if IIUC an OutputIterator is basically any iterator that's non-const, right ? (Excepted I suppose the one returned by .end() or .rbegin())
 
No.
 
@Borgleader wow
 
3:49 PM
@Borgleader As newbish as a newblet could be ... few come rawer than that ...
 
JBL
Damn.
 
that's a wall of code
 
JBL
^ s/code/shitty code/
 
@Borgleader Just... I don't even know.
 
Xeo
@JBL An output iterator is one that allows the following expression: *out++ = v
 
3:54 PM
@JBL His code is beautiful in its own way ;_;!
 
JBL
@Xeo Writing past it ? Ok. I'll try to think more about it
 
Xeo
> I've used numbers divining
 
> numbers divining
The fuck is this.
 
JBL
The guy codes with a tarot deck.
 
Xeo
@JBL what? where did that idea come from?
 
JBL
4:00 PM
@Xeo Reading it twice, I'm not sure I understood that quite well. Can you do ++out with an OutputIterator ?
 
Xeo
Yes
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun as beautiful as this:
I am hungry, maybe I should have some raw bean sprout because I am off to bed in a sec ...
 
@JBL Strictly, the types of those iterators are OutputIterators.
 
JBL
I got things completely wrong...
 
Hey Telkitty remember that thing about not posting pictures?
 
JBL
4:02 PM
I'll wipe that part of my brain and start over.
 
@CatPlusPlus you don't like BBQed chicken?
 
I don't like your pictures.
 
I know .. I know ... :')
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Feature for Lounge<Chat>.
 
user1804599
Ban users from oneboxing. :')
 
4:07 PM
Lounge<Cat> ... Lounge<Hat>?
 
Xeo
ignore oneboxing from users
That should actually be implementable as a client-side script here
 
@Xeo easier to hack
 
user1804599
What.
 
user1804599
Define "hack".
 
well, if you know the code, then it is easier for you to get around it
 
user1804599
4:09 PM
It's not.
 
I did not say it is easy, I said it is easier
 
Yeah, it only requires you to get access to the user's machine.
 
user1804599
Not even an idiot would go that far.
 
I have seen it been done on CSS
 
user1804599
Oh hey let's hack into some user's computer just so I can have them see my photos.
 
4:11 PM
Yes, you can get around blocking of other users' oneboxes, congrats.
Of course it would be easier to just uncheck the preference checkbox, but hey.
 
user1804599
This chick on TV is hot.
 
@Xeo I want oneboxing to be entirely client-side anyway.
 
how good is your javascripting skill?
 
(Not that anyone will ever use it)
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus The problem is same-origin policy.
 
4:15 PM
We'll pester people to enable CORS.
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Hmm. Well, we'll see.
 
user1804599
I prefer it to be client-side too.
 
user1804599
Stack Overflow Chat does it sillily. Renders everything on the server and sends HTML back.
 
Besides not everything we want to onebox needs API access.
Stuff like xkcd or YT can just be transformed into embed tags.
 
user1804599
4:17 PM
Wikipedia offers JSONP, so that's not a problem either.
 
Xeo
> the recursive member generation in tuple
Aaaand that somebody doesn't know about indices, apparently.
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus xkcd tooltip?
 
Xeo
alt-text?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
I can't express with words how low priority xkcd oneboxing is for me.
 
4:19 PM
g++: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1plus)
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs> for instructions.
I guess it's time to quit for today.
 
meaning no oneboxing coz 2 much work
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus You're not the only user.
 
hi all
which is the best book to learn c++?
 
user1804599
3294
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are released every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a good C++ book...

 
@not-rightfold thank you
 
user1804599
4:22 PM
No problem.
 
user1804599
Send your $100 reward to rightfold HQ.
 
lol
@not-rightfold how are you?
 
user1804599
Annoyed by PHP, as usual.
 
lol
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus I will play with oneboxing in the weekend, as well as some WebSocket stuff in C#.
 
4:26 PM
In your opinion, would whether or not C++ is a good first language to learn a good topic for an evaluation essay?
 
I'll finish the continent in AVWW and will do something with those damn sockets.
Maybe.
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 Rephrase your question.
 
I'm not really feeling motivated to code anything.
 
user1804599
I am. ^^
 
user1804599
This shit's important. Stack Overflow Chat sucks.
 
4:28 PM
@not-rightfold I have been tasked to write an evaluation essay. I am choosing a subject. It is supposed to (A), have strengths/weaknesses (i.e. debatable), (B) one you know the standards for judgement on, and (C) one you can judge because you have knowledge and/or interest in it.
 
user1804599
And you want to do it about “whether or not C++ is a good first programming language”?
 
It's not.
The eend.
 
@not-rightfold That was the topic in mind, yes.
 
user1804599
C++ is not a good language anyway.
 
user1804599
Do it about Java instead.
 
4:30 PM
The point at this moment isn't my judgement of it, it is whether it is a good subject for judgement.
 
@not-rightfold are you interested in database?
 
user1804599
@user2713461 Yes, you?
 
user1804599
As long as it isn't not PostgreSQL.
 
user1804599
Speaking of databases. I've been wondering whether it's a good idea to have the RDBMS delete a file linked to by a record when the record is deleted.
 
@not-rightfold yes! but dont know much abt it!!
i hav to learn it!
 
user1804599
4:32 PM
Sounds fun!
 
@not-rightfold is Navathe Elsmari a good book??
 
@Pawnguy7 Until something like Wide is finished, there's little doubt that C++ has it's use.
 
@Xeo lol
 
user1804599
@user2713461 Never heard of it.
 
4:35 PM
@not-rightfold which one did u read from?
 
@not-rightfold Oh gawd triggers
 
user1804599
> u
 
user1804599
And no I didn't read any books about databases.
 
So, anyone know how to get a recent GCC on a Debian box?
 
I was thinking of making a typelist class actually
 
4:36 PM
@not-rightfold then how did u learn??
 
user1804599
> u
 
user1804599
I'm not answering anymore.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm using 4.8.1 here, downloaded the sauce and it compiled fine after adding a few packages
on Wheezy that is
 
@MarcClaesen Meh.
Why does every distro suck so much at this.
 
@not-rightfold oops! sorry if i hav irritated u
bye
 
4:38 PM
what errors are you getting?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Define "recent"
 
user1804599
> u
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
4:38 PM
Fail.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't 4.7.3 in Wheezy?
 
4.7.2 is shipped with Wheezy
 
I'm on squeeze. Is it safe to add packages from wheezy?
 
could be a problem since wheezy is the first multiarch release
 
I would rather not update the whole thing for this :S
 
4:40 PM
safest bet is to compile from source, that should work fine
 
But then that requires messing with the build scripts.
 
fair enough
 
Arrgh, will do it tomorrow.
 
posted on September 11, 2013 by Ankit Asthana

A compiler can only optimize away data or a function if a compiler can prove that the data or function will never be referenced. In a non-LTCG compile (i.e. a build with Whole Program Optimization (WPO) disabled) the compiler's visibility is only limited to a single module (.obj), so for data and function that has global scope, the compiler will never know if other modules will be using them. A

 
is there any simple way to move to an absolute namespace? namespace ::foo{...} doesn't work for me
 
4:44 PM
@not-rightfold are u working or studying?
 
Should leave while it's not raining.
@MarcClaesen Nope.
 
@user2713461 Probably neither.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
user1804599
> u
 
user1804599
4:48 PM
You're really not getting the point.
 
@not-rightfold what??
 
-3
Q: Professors example of new in c++ will not work on my machine

user2127521This is the professors code: #include <iostream> using std::cout; using std::cin; using std::endl; #include<string> #include <new> int main() { char *p; int index = 8; cout << "Input how many characters:"; cin >> index; p = new char [index + 1]; cin >> p; cout << "p is: " << p; delete [] p...

LOL
 
user1804599
lol new
 
5:05 PM
These are possibly the most rude comments I've ever seen on SO. — J. Polfer 4 mins ago
lol
 
Yeah I just flagged H2CO3 twice
 
You cannot possibly be not rude when commenting on such bullshit.
 
It's called vote to close and move on.
 
THAT'S WUDE
But really, it's always a safe assumption that OP doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
 
i'm thinking in start developing a game.. but idk if do it with pygame, or c++ and open gl.
has anyone worked with open gl for creating a game..
a simple one. just for learning.
 
Xeo
 
So basically his proposal boils down to "i want move ellision" which was already proposed?
 
shit
I really shoulda learned my lesson and not eaten anything.
 
:/
 
0
Q: C++ dynamic data structure

3DuckerHy! I'm new in c++, and I try to make some dynamic structures. Theese are: class Cschools { struct Syear { float *marks; }; }; int main() { Cschools *school=new Cschools[5]; //this linking is pretty good school[0].Syear *year=new school[0].Syear[5]; //there are some errors ...

I find this most baffling
 
> //this linking is pretty good
wha?
 
5:28 PM
Hey guys, I'm setting up a box with 2x2TB disks, what RAID setup do I use for that?
 
the whole thing smells of C with classes.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Don't have much choice with 2 drives
Really only RAID 1
 
I guess so. This page mentioned RAID 10 with a minimum of 2 disks which confuses me though.
 
Xeo
should be 4
 
5:34 PM
@LucDanton I have a similar setup using RAID 1, it makes me feel safe ;_;
 
Although all RAID implementations differ from the specification to some extent, some companies have developed non-standard RAID implementations that differ substantially from the standard. Non-RAID drive architectures—configurations of multiple hard drives are not referred to by RAID acronyms. Double parity Now part of RAID 6, double parity, sometimes known as row diagonal parity, http://www.netapp.com/library/tr/3298.pdf 3298 like traditional RAID 6, features two sets of parity checks. Differently, the second set is not another set of points in the over-defined polynomial which charact...
Linux MD RAID 10. With qualification.
 
Xeo
lol
2-drive Linux MD RAID 10 is just RAID 1
So yeah, unless you get your hands on another drive, RAID 1 it is :P
 
RAID 1 and RAID 0 can't go together in 2 disks only :p
 
Back to configuring.
 
@JerryCoffin I think Modern C++ Design hasn't aged very well. I don't think it's a timeless work (except perhaps for the introduction to chapter 1). That kinda fits into your view of tactician vs strategist.
 
5:42 PM
@StackedCrooked Well I guess I should hurry up and read it before it rots :P
 
I've been seeing that Romeo guy a lot lately
 
The beginning of a new romance?
 
Vittorio Romeo?
 
Yes
He seems to always post about his game engine and other silly things
 
Danny and Romeo sitting in a tree..
 
5:45 PM
other silly things being std::sink<T> ? :P
 
@Borgleader Yeah and his "super fast delegates/std::function replacement"
 
oh i havent seen that one
 
He's practically obsessed with it.
 
He asked a question on the last day of GN2013 if I recall
 
A thought occurs: what's a good mount point for those disks? Their purpose is for storage (e.g. media), I have another disk for the system proper.
 
5:47 PM
/home
 
I would agree.
 
@Borgleader One, two, three.
 
Ell
/media/luc
 
Can I log in if /home isn't accessible or do I need to go in as root?
If the latter, so much for 'don't put in a root user but make sure to enter a password so you can sudo' or what.
 
Ell
You can log in I believe
Without a home dir
 
5:53 PM
Is that a remote or local system?
 
@Rapptz Oh, I saw One but not two and three. I stopped reading after the first answer in the asylum that said it was UB.
 
Ell
Local
 
Ell
Not sure about remote
I'll try
Just gotta let my PC boot up :3
 
I mean on local you can always just boot into single-user mode.
But logging in without a home dir shouldn't be a problem.
 
5:55 PM
@CatPlusPlus Local but headless and I need to fit in a graphics otherwise which is a bit of a bother.
 
If you're worried you can make an emergency wheel user that has a home dir outside of /home.
 
@CatPlusPlus Works for me, thanks for the help.
 
All that reminds me that I want a home NAS :<
 
@Rapptz All that build up for that punch line? Tss tss.
 
^yeah, that
back to it
 
5:57 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I was expecting something else, so I guess I fell for it.
 
Ell
Hmm I just logged in locally and the desktop appears to be broken
 
btw look into ZFS.
 
Ell
oh turns out I can't log in to a graphical desktop locally
I can log in with terminal locally and remotely via ssh
 

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