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5:01 PM
Fuck me there are 550 SE site proposals on Area 51. 550!
 
I like how SE is split into topics, but they are heading in the too fine-grained direction if you look down the list. It's more like a list of viable tags than a list of viable sites. I'm sure I'd enjoy asking my single question on one once in a while and play with my 110 rep forever.
 
I want those with chocolate in - the ones where you have to get up at 07:30 to make sure the hotel breakfast-buffet still has some.
 
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Sharan Goharwhy me this is so unfair this always happens to me how do i type a question. it wont even post a stupid question.This is proper grammar whats wrong with you i tried all stuff with it but it does not run why you do this.

 
I give up, (again). I'm off to the Tesco bakery.
@MooingDuck Shit - deleted before I could comment 'It's personal - the compiler hates you.'
 
5:07 PM
@MartinJames haha I was just planning my trip to Sainsburys
 
OK, looks official - we're all going out for croissants!
 
I might have to upgrade. This is a tempting piece of hardware
 
Ahahahaha adding comments to objects via Facebook's Graph API still doesn't work, a year later.
 
So, I have a decision to make
 
5:12 PM
jobs...
 
Wait. What are the options?
 
I have an offer
 
Try jumping.
 
Y'all should play Dark Souls so you get this joke.
 
5:13 PM
Praise the sun?
 
hmmmm
 
right, brb croissants. i'm even gonna take the french car...
 
to take up the offer or not take up the offer, that is the question
 
@TonyTheLion what is the offer?
 
5:19 PM
@TonyTheLion Was it something like less monies, but less pain?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes More monies
 
but more pain?
 
More monies, less pain?
 
the technologies are somewhat dated
which I'm not sure of
 
Cobol?
 
5:20 PM
my main concern really, is technologies (MFC)
everything else is better than what I'm doing/have now
 
Then less pain is dubious.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think that's a corner case. To return a type by value it must be copiable or movable. Has nothing to do with {} AFAICT
 
@MooingDuck No, it doesn't.
 
@TonyTheLion if you're not happy with what you have, then jumping into something new sounds like it's worth a shot :)
 
5:21 PM
His new job could be made into translating the software into a newer technology.
 
@jalf this is what I'm thinking.
@Nican possibly yes
 
7 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
return { ... }; is not "create a temporary of the return type and return it". It's "initialize the return value directly".
 
Also, did you ask if they have any intention of switching away from MFC to something sane? IMO it counts for a lot if they're willing to change/improve the code
 
If it helps understand, there is no copy elision there, because attempting a copy is not conformant.
 
also, even if they use MFC, it presumably doesn't touch every part of the code. Would you even be working on the components that are heavily MFC'ified?
 
5:23 PM
Job hiring is a two way process; You could just talk to your recruiter about your position, and see what the company thinks.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I assumed there was no copy elision. I was confused at being allowed to return a object that you can't do anything with.
Oh you can catch by const reference. Right. nevermind then
 
@jalf yea, mainly and improving stuff
 
@MooingDuck Or pass as a temporary.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah
 
@TonyTheLion if you'd be working on improving stuff, that doesn't sound bad IMO
 
5:25 PM
BS2012.
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@jalf they are looking at modernizing, but they are fairly small place so it hasn't been much of a priority so far.
I mean, its got many advantages that I currently don't have (like living in a place where there is actually things to do/people to see)
 
@TonyTheLion Where?
 
and its in an industry with future
@DeadMG London
 
hmmm
what you really mean is, living in a place that's horrendously expensive and the traffic noise will never let up?
and the public transportation is incredibly overcrowded and expensive?
 
5:28 PM
So what you're saying is that the only drawback is that they use MFC, which they would like to migrate away from, but it is unclear when that would happen?
 
@DeadMG I'm willing to trade that over not ever seeing a living soul and lonliness
 
I'm not trying to be negative, but there are serious downsides to living in London.
 
@jalf yea sounds like a good summary.
 
@TonyTheLion So, next Saturday, what time are you intending on arriving?
 
@DeadMG I realize that, but there are also serious downsides to living in the middle of nowhere
 
5:29 PM
fair enough.
 
@DeadMG No idea.
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I realized that we did not arrange an actual time, rather just a day and a place.
 
I'm a social person, and lack of social life is not really helping me
 
@TonyTheLion Sounds like a pretty god deal to me overall
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes :|
But lol'd @ Psycho quotes
 
5:30 PM
@jalf I was actually thinking along the same lines
also I like the problem domain
 
Xeo
Really, uniform-init should be considered explicit construction
So bothersome
 
@DeadMG Yes, so want to do around lunch time?
 
@TonyTheLion Sure. Unless you want to do a hell of a lot of driving, the latest I could leave Bristol would be 17:50.
 
@DeadMG What do call a lot of driving? I drove 600+ miles in the last two weeks, if it tops that, that's a lot yea
 
lol
er, I actually don't know, it might be an hour or two to drive each way
but I'd rather just grab the train back
 
5:32 PM
ok so lets say 1pm ish
 
ok
 
where? Meet at Bristol Temple Meads train station?
 
eh
 
I have a crutch, so I won't be hard to spot
 
5:33 PM
depends on when ThePhD is arriving, but we only need one of us to meet him
since we both know where the relevant pub is
 
he's meeting me on Friday here, cause he's lodging in my flat
 
orite
 
so I will bring him along
 
in that case, screw it, let's just meet in the pub.
 
Xeo
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huh
 
5:34 PM
ok, what pub again?
 
the Wetherspoons that's about 2 millimetres from the station
 
@DeadMG yep, the one I was looking at.
 
@DeadMG We want pictures.
 
Xeo
5:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, there's a bug - so?
 
@Xeo Guess what is currently fucking me up?
 
ohhh puppy
 
lol, of you meeting. I appreciated the dog anyway :P
 
my dad has a dog of the same breed as your puppy
 
Ell
5:38 PM
London is awesome! I just can't imagine how expensive it is
 
only brown
 
You guys planning a meetup?
 
@Ell Expensive, but with a good salary its manageble
 
@EtiennedeMartel A gay rapist?
 
@StackedCrooked yea, me, puppy and thephd
@Jeffrey I won't post pictures of my face in here
sorry
 
5:39 PM
:( ok
 
are you so bad looking? :)
My avatar is actually my face.
 
@StackedCrooked No.
 
@StackedCrooked LOL
 
I mustn't forget to pick up the thePhd in train station on Friday
otherwise he might have to sleep on the road :P
 
@TonyTheLion of your shoes all together?
 
Ell
5:42 PM
I mustn't forget to pretend to be thePhd in train station on Friday
out of curiosity, how do you guys know who is who if you've never seen each other?
 
lol
@Ell I'm not hard to miss, I've got crutches
use phones, email, whatever
 
Ell
oh dear :O
I want to meet up with you guise some time.
 
where are you?
 
Ell
Don't die or leave Lounge<C++> for about 2 years
 
lol
little chance that I leave
I basically need you guys
 
Ell
5:44 PM
I'm in the Uk, but I'm not sure my parents would allow me to meet internet people :O
and I need their money and transport etc :L
 
ack
my parents are knocking off to France, so I can't steal a lift from them, so I'll have to go through fuckin' Southampton.
 
@DeadMG Phronce.
 
@TonyTheLion :( what happened?
 
@Jeffrey See here and here and here
 
5:51 PM
@DeadMG Aww - you three are meeting up in UK, but I will be out of the country. Typical.
 
is it better to have multiple small methods doing their own thing or one big method that does everything you need it to?
I feel like maybe 100 lines is way too big for a python method
 
ugh, I don't like shared_ptr all that much
 
@Crowz split that bitch up
 
5:53 PM
Time for more pizza!
Gotta have food when the night comes
 
thanks for reminding me I need to go shopping
 
@TonyTheLion Wow man. :( Will the pain ever go away?
 
@TonyTheLion is it bad to have literally tons of like, 5 line methods and a main method that calls all of them to return a single item?
 
@Tuntuni Not predicted to go away fully ever.
 
@TonyTheLion Oh gawd. :'( Sad to hear that. :/
 
5:54 PM
@Crowz No.
 
god, removing singletons once they've infested your code is horrible
 
@Tuntuni yea well. It is what it is.
@jalf yea that must quite a task :/
 
@CatPlusPlus I have a fridge, and stomach, full of chocy croissants:)
 
@jalf I wouldn't even bother.
 
@TonyTheLion True. So if you use crutches does that mean one leg hurts more than the other or do you switch after a while or something else?
 
5:55 PM
@CatPlusPlus well, having them is really painful as well, and necessitates so many ugly hacks
 
user142019
Control+A, delete. All singletons gone!
 
There's a threshold of code badness beyond which I stop caring about improving the quality, and just make the task at hand work.
 
user142019
As well as all the other bad code!
 
@Tuntuni My right foot is actually worse than my left, so I use one crutch to somewhat mitigate the pain in that. I use two crutches for longer walking distances.
 
@CatPlusPlus we're nowhere near that threshold IMO though.
 
5:57 PM
@jalf You mentioned 15 singletons.
 
@TonyTheLion Ah, like that. Well, I hope it gets somewhat better in the future. :)
 
Thanks :)
 
PayPal, why are you sending me receipts for the same transaction twice.
 
user142019
> PayPal
 
user142019
PayArchEnemy
 
6:03 PM
OH: "Sufficiently advanced C++ is indistinguishable from trolling."
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hahahahah
 
@TonyTheLion That better go on the Asylum.
 
Hi.
@EtiennedeMartel It's not new
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So?
 
@EtiennedeMartel So.
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Lightness Races in OrbitSo this is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. But, well it's still a bug. The "add comment" link is correctly greyed out, but it is accompanied by a "requires 50 reputation" link that — at 83,921 rep — I've never seen before. Presumably this shows up pre-login? If so, it's now starte...

 
Croissants are not new either
 
6:16 PM
dude
we had some cheese croissants in Bristol
they were fucking tasty.
 
Man, it's code review week at work. This month is harsh
Especially since half the team is missing for sickness
 
Xeo
@DeadMG That sounds tasty.
 
5 mins ago, by DeadMG
they were fucking tasty.
 
Xeo
I like ham&cheese croissants.
Maybe I'll buy one tomorrow or something, didn't have one in quite a long time.
 
fuck ham
cheese is where it's at
 
6:26 PM
Cheese is the shit.
 
I'm having a cheese pizza
 
I work with a French guy who puts a significant portion of his income into cheese.
 
Xeo
Well French people are weird about cheese.
But most cheese is fucking tasty.
 
Real cheese.
'Round here we have this weird orange thing that Americans call cheese.
 
6:29 PM
American cheese is a processed cheese. It is orange, yellow, or white in color and mild in flavor, with a medium-firm consistency, and melts easily. American cheese was originally only white, but is often now modified to yellow. In the past, it was made from a blend of cheeses, most often Colby and Cheddar. Today’s American cheese is generally no longer made from blended cheeses, but instead is manufactured from a set of ingredients such as milk, whey, milkfat, milk protein concentrate, whey protein concentrate, and salt. In the United States, it may not be legally sold as "cheese", and ...
 
Ell
Red Gloucester?
 
Ell
Gloucester is a traditional unpasteurised, semi-hard cheese which has been made in Gloucestershire, England, since the 16th century, at one time made only with the milk of the once nearly extinct Gloucester cattle. There are two types of Gloucester cheese: Single and Double; both are traditionally made from milk from Gloucestershire breed cows farmed within the English county of Gloucestershire. Both types have a natural rind (outer layer) and a hard texture, but Single Gloucester is more crumbly, lighter in texture and lower in fat. Double Gloucester is allowed to age for longer perio...
 
What.
It looks horrible.
 
Ell
I thought this was orange
 
6:30 PM
Aaaalso
Cheez Whiz is a thick processed cheese sauce or spread sold by Kraft Foods. It was developed by a team led by food scientist Edwin Traisman (1915–2007). While many sources give its national debut as 1953,it was advertised by Kraft and retailers in several states late in 1952. The bright yellow, viscous paste usually comes in a glass jar and is used as a topping for cheesesteaks, corn chips, hot dogs and other foods. It is marketed in Canada, Mexico, the Philippines, the United States and Venezuela. Cheez Whiz is one of a number of "processed cheese foods", a category including s...
That shit.
 
Sorry, someone had to link to it
 
Ell
Meh. Gloucester isn't red. I'm thinking or something else
 
Worst thing is that we have very good cheeses in Quebec, but most of the things you find in stores is either cheap cheddar or mozzarella, or the usual orange shit.
 
Ell
Ah I'm thinking of red Leicester
 
ITT Cheese
 
Xeo
6:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Mozzarella is yummy!
 
@Xeo Yes.
Holy hell someone put Equestria Girls in 1080p on YouTube.
 
Fuck it's 2 days that my head hurts.
 
@Jeffrey Drink more water.
 
@TonyTheLion Oh God. I though you just broke something recently. I'm so sorry.
 
you couldn't have known that
there is no problem with asking me about it
 
6:42 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I am drinking like a camel. It seems like a migraine because it hurts only when I move my head.
@TonyTheLion Is there any chance in getting any better?
 
@Jeffrey No. Its about as good as it will get at this time, I believe. Doctors have told me there isn't anything else they can do for me.
and by doctors I mean orthopedic specialists
 
@TonyTheLion You can't really lose hopes though. This days medicine is improving fast I've heard.
 
@Jeffrey I'm not saying I've lost hope, but I'm being realistic. The hospital I go to is in the top ten of Orthopedic hospitals in the world. They do know what they are talking about there.
 
first link says "Danger: Malware Ahead!
Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on chat.stackoverflow.com.
Content from www.bmwgallery.co.uk, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page. Visiting this page now is very likely to infect your computer with malware.
Malware is malicious software that causes things like identity theft, financial loss, and permanent file deletion. "
 
@MooingDuck Yup same here. I clicked anyway. Risking errday. :D
 
6:52 PM
@MooingDuck Same here.
 
@MooingDuck same.
 
@MooingDuck Huh, doesn't do that here. Am I spreading malware?
 
Ell
out++ increase out, then return the old value of out
Is this the right way around?
 
@TonyTheLion it appears that someone put a link (image?) in the chat that day that comes from a site with a bad rap.
 
@MooingDuck oh
 
6:54 PM
@Ell yes
 
@MooingDuck It was me, there is a picture of a bmw car in that first link that I posted at the time and it comes from bmwgallery.com
 
:10818969 Which is what he said. :)
 
@TonyTheLion "Content from www.bmwgallery.co.uk, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page." Apperently the gallery was hijacked at some point?
 
Sep 3 '12 at 19:35, by Tony The Lion
@FredOverflow You may ask, I was born with club feet, meaning that my feet were backwards when I was born. Straightened out with 5 surgeries over the course of my life, however the cartilage in my ankle joints (amongst others) is almost all gone, which creates bone to bone friction when moving. Pain results. Doctors cannot fix.
this was the message the link was referencing
now you don't have to go there
@MooingDuck possible
 
Xeo
But don't we have the technology to fix him yet? TO MAKE HIM BETTER?
 

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