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9:03 PM
@Borgleader how?
 
ok
 
@Mgetz +10 upvotes -> Nice Answer, First to answer && +10 upvotes -> Enlightened.
 
what would be really dumb is if I did the same thing I did last time I went to visit WGP, which is to stay up all night spending about five minutes every hour on the relevant preparation until I was done, and then fall asleep on the train.
 
ah... never had one of those
 
@Borgleader Same thing happened to me yesterday.
 
9:10 PM
@Borgleader Nice Answer is bronze
 
Oh, right.
Good Answer is the silver one.
 
@Rapptz Don't just show up and crush people's dreams. D:
 
@ThePhD yeah or i'll be jobless
 
damn
my brain feels constipated.
 
9:19 PM
@DeadMG I feel quite the same brother
 
I have so many ideas of things I want to do next with Wide, but none of them will spring forth from my head into Visual Studio
 
i feel sad
 
@DeadMG let's talk about them
 
@BartekBanachewicz got to love when they mention they only "partially support" the vector types
 
@Mgetz they are making progress; show some love brother!
 
9:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I need an ExecutionContext class that will store the current execution context- how to handle local destructors, saving constant state (local types, etc)
I need to introduce file-local usings.
I need to refactor the AST into a two-stage parse and combine step.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm fairly certain that's a repost.
 
@BartekBanachewicz they are making progress updating the compiler every year instead of every three
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hellbat infomercial /cc @DeadMG
 
@EtiennedeMartel that was posted on fb 2 hours ago
 
I need to fix the parser error handling
 
9:21 PM
@DeadMG Wide...? that's not this is it github.com/chandramouleswaran/Wide
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf no
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf No.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The article itself is a week old.
Jul 12 at 17:15, by Feeds
posted on July 12, 2013 by Ankit Asthana

Introduction In VS2013 (download here), we have introduced a new calling convention known as 'Vector Calling Convention' but before we go on and introduce the new calling convention let us take a look at the lay of the land today. There are multiple calling conventions that exist today, especially on x86 platform. The x64 platform has however been slightly blessed with only one conven

 
@DeadMG I think the proper error handling is something that might be not verry funny when writing, but you will thank yourself for that later
 
And we even got it here through @Feeds.
 
9:22 PM
@CatPlusPlus Does your MinGW Builds do std::thread ?
 
@EtiennedeMartel okey, my bad then, huh?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fun fact: Feeds posts VC++ blog articles here.
 
@ThePhD vOv
 
. ok what's Wide
 
@EtiennedeMartel Just saw it and thought it's worth sharing. Doesn't hurt.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf a programming language
 
9:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz NO OKAY. NO.
REPOSTS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS.
 
i need a hug, not to be shouted at.
 
@CatPlusPlus So... that's a no? D:
 
@BartekBanachewicz Go fuck people up at LoL.
 
@BartekBanachewicz?
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's not a hug.
 
9:25 PM
@ThePhD No shit.
But I'm too far to give a hug.
 
@BartekBanachewicz link please. I can't find it... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide-spectrum_language ?
 
@EtiennedeMartel there's no point in playing alone. It's like trying to force 4 monkeys play blitz chess. To be fair, against 5 other monkeys doing the same.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf it's still in development stage.
 
link please
 
gruuuuuuuuuuump
 
I mean I am not my team's captain at this moment, at least not officially.
But still, playing solo is... uh... just. It's a different game.
@Pawnguy7 meh, I am just feeling bad about myself
 
9:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I do that all the time
 
that's funny because I came here with this
 
@ThePhD I don't know.
 
you're kinda the only people that can understand what I feel right now that I know.
 
ah
feeling bad is just an electrical imbalance in the brain.
it can't hurt you.
 
@DeadMG there's surely some way to overcome that sanely.
 
9:29 PM
this I tell myself every day.
 
When I feel bad, I just tell myself things'll get better eventually.
 
I think it's a sign of improper psychological processes.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The trouble with that is that when you spend fifteen years doing it and they only ever get worse, it loses it's effect
 
@EtiennedeMartel I also don't believe in saying that unless you are actually making actions towards it.
 
I just lie down and close my eyes and pretend I'm dying.
 
9:31 PM
I feel tempted to say something bad to ThePhd and get rid of at least a bit of it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Personal experience is things just get better. Maybe I'm unconsciously working towards that, or I'm just lucky, or maybe it's just perspective (things aren't really better, I just see them that way).
 
hmph
at least if I died, I wouldn't have to deal with my fuckin' stomach anymore.
 
@DeadMG is it that serious?
@EtiennedeMartel I certainly see a hope for things getting better.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you're killing me; can you please point me to the Wide webpage ._.
 
it's top secret :)
 
9:33 PM
noooooooo T_T
 
I dunno, how can you quantify the effects of being hideously painfully sick for years on end, with no effective treatment or end in sight?
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf We've only found the name by decrypting some strange transmission from utfl.usa.gov
 
I think you need to separate between feeling bad because something bad has happened (perfectly normal) and feeling bad without a matching reason, or when the bad feeling is drastically disproportionate to what happened (likely depression). In the former case, focusing on positives often will do real good. In the latter case, more drastic actions are often needed (though one that's particularly successful may not seem so drastic -- exercise is often effective).
 
bs
i hate you all
@ScottW
where did he go ...
 
@JerryCoffin But how do you separate #1 from #2?
 
9:35 PM
@JerryCoffin Exercising is a good advice, actually. I went for a run and it's a bit better now.
I was just having... thoughts.
I think the fact I am living alone now is kinda making it worse.
 
I much prefer living alone
 
I am... very attached to my roommate.
 
YES
I FOUND IT
 
@DeadMG It's often difficult. If memory serves, the DSM has a checklist of "if more than M of the following N items is true, that justifies a diagnosis of depression" (along with a few like "suicidal" that any one of them indicates depression) but I haven't memorized the list, or anything like that.
 
9:36 PM
girlfriend?
 
@DeadMG no, but my GF sometimes jokes about me and my boyfriend
 
oic
 
@JerryCoffin I had a mild case of bipolarity back in high school, but I think it's gone now.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I ran into that years ago -- got a job mostly working at home. Took me a while to realize that this isolated me from other people enough, I had to make more of an effort to socialize.
 
9:38 PM
@DeadMG fyi if you care: your C tuts are broken
 
@JerryCoffin inb4 "you should get out more"
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Er, most of them should be fixed now.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf IIRC he has only C++ tuts
 
nope
Concurrency is broken
 
oh, oops.
 
9:39 PM
oh indeed
 
I probably forgot to fix the links
yeah, I did.
 
000webhost.com
dude, set up a proper 404 at least
 
@BartekBanachewicz IIRC, teenagers experience a lot more such problems than almost all other age groups put together.
 
so is C with classes
and general
and classes
 
@JerryCoffin Good thing I am not a teenager anymore :)
I've realized I really want to write that blog post. (possibly unrelated)
 
9:40 PM
dam. nice tuts tho
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Yeah, those ones are still broken. I fixed Concurrency though
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Puppy actually knows how to C++
 
not that I have written anywhere near enough on concurrency or OO
 
no citations tho :O
 
9:41 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf I am a citation.
 
lol ok. also another 10 pages on branch prediction ;D
 
no
ask mysticial if you want to know more about it
 
:(
@BartekBanachewicz how old are you
 
the only reason that tut is in there is to show people that performance is hideously unintuitive
 
Jun 24 at 7:58, by Bartek Banachewicz
I am bad at C++.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf 21
 
9:42 PM
What's the latest and the greatest lossy audio codec for music?
 
hahah look what I found
Jun 20 at 14:47, by Bartek Banachewicz
ITT Puppy can't C++ either
 
@wilx just use a library
 
@DeadMG <3 Living alone is the best.
 
@wilx I'd go for OGG. Maybe not "latest and greatest", but open. Other than that, new AAC are neat.
 
9:44 PM
AAC. some of the best compression
 
@wilx Ogg Vorbis works really great for audio, offering MP3-levels of compression with competitive encoding decoding times and about-the-same audio quality all around.
FLAC is the best lossless audio codec -- I don't see a use for AAC because it's proprietary mostly and sucks dick.
For both Speech and Music and unrelated, CELT (formerly known as Speex, might have another name now) written by teh same people who do Vorbis is also pretty good.
 
@ThePhD no, AC3 is.
 
Dota2 uses CELT for its audio data encoding.
 
he said lossy btw
 
9:47 PM
appeal to authority fallacy, fuckface
 
@ThePhD Opus is the new sparkly buzzword thing in game voicecom
 
I repeat my previous statement.
 
Ah, yes. Speex ----> Celt ----> Opus
 
Hmm.
 
@DeadMG note how I said "sparkly buzzword"
 
9:47 PM
So still Vorbis then.
 
Yes. Vorbis is free toimplement and no large company will chop your balls off.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf it's not free
how about you check first, then write?
 
The following tables compare general and technical information for a variety of audio formats and audio compression formats. For listening tests comparing the perceived audio quality of audio formats and codecs, see the article Codec listening test. General information {| class="wikitable sortable" style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" |+General Information about Audio Compression Formats - creator/company, license/price etc. |- ! Audio compression format ! Creator ! First public release date ! Latest stable version ! Encoder cost ! Player cost ! Proprietary implementations (codec...
 
9:49 PM
Stop with the fuckin' dots
 
@KonradRudolph can you tell my why are you even reading programming-related stuff on reddit?
 
Their arguments against value semantics in C++: • performance • move semantics are hard • YAGNI • KISS • some subjective feeling
 
what's he using it for?
 
@KonradRudolph he's fucking retarded; get over it
 
9:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz somebody posted it here, I got involved in a discussion with one individual, it’s still going
 
@BartekBanachewicz i was replying for what to use not what is free yo
he said "so still vorbis then"
 
@KonradRudolph that's really not gonna bring any proper effects, you are aware of that?
> Move semantics are laughably complicated and unintuitive. I know that I could probably pick up the basics, but I hate the thought of using a powerful feature, with a lot of sensitive edge-cases, which I don't fully understand.
if he doesn't see the point in learning new stuff, he won't bother with understanding your arguments either.
 
move semantics are in almost all cases especially easy.
 
that's not the point
We do know that because we actually spend some time learning them.
 
hell, the compiler does almost all of it for you
 
9:52 PM
@DeadMG Yes, that was my reply as well
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, I didn’t. I completely neglected learning about C++11 because I was busy at the time when it was actively discussed and beta-tested in compilers
 
y'know
 
when I came to the scene I was presented with a fait accompli and had to learn the changes within a very short time
 
but you did learn them.
 
I did a phone interview a couple weeks ago
 
how did it go?
 
9:53 PM
dunno
turns out I accidentally turned my phone into airplane mode and forgot to change it back.
 
ouch.
Well, the guy who was supposed to call me today didn't.
 
I've been sitting here waiting for it to ring
lol
I hate phones and recruiters hate email
 
My phone's been on Silent for >7 months
I only noticed recently
 
The one recruiter I've met in person happened to be a very nice guy
 
@Magtheridon Any missed calls or messages?
 
9:55 PM
I hate recruiters
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I always answered calls, I just never noticed that it was on Silent Mode :p
 
@wilx So yeah, for a audio stack that doesn't have any proprietary components, is competitive with all other forms of audio compression, and is extremely widely supported, you're going to want to use:

Opus ( [ Lossy ] Speech / VoIP / low-latency transmission) [ libopus ]
Vorbis ( [ Lossy ] Music / Audio ) [ libvorbis ]
Wav ( [ Lossless ] (Small!) SFX ) [ read it raw, you sissy ]
FLAC ( [ Lossless ] SFX / Music ) [ libflac, or read it raw if you're a manly man ]
 
2
Q: C++ condition_variable cin and cout

ariaI have tried to implement condition_variable with two threads, the following code would work well if I don't use user input (std::cin), but once I used it, the program crashed after I input a number on screen. Why does it crash? std::mutex mu; std::condition_variable cond; int x =0; void th_in(...

 
Ok.
 
@ThePhD hey can I bash you?
 
9:56 PM
What did I do wrong now? :c
 
> read it raw if you're a manly man
 
@Magtheridon96 How did you know when it was ringing?
 
@BartekBanachewicz My first recommendation was libflac.
 
@ThePhD that's why I asked instead of bashing on the spot :)
 
See, I'm learning!
 
9:57 PM
@ThePhD thanks
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It vibrates, and since it's always either in my pocket when I'm out or to the right of my mouse when I'm on my computer, I'd always notice the calls
 
@ThePhD immamazed
 
I hate voicemail
 
@ThePhD Whisper dirty things about C++ into my ear
 

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