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user142019
12:02 AM
@EtiennedeMartel That Incognito pack (top rated) is fucking great.
 
user142019
12:28 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Are you kidding me?
 
@rightfold You're already installing it arent you?<
 
user142019
No.
 
oh cmon wheres your solidarity ponidarity
@DeadMG how goes wide?
 
12:45 AM
at a yard sale for 15$, whoever bought that is lucky as hell
 
@Ell, how's the connection actually made?
 
@Borgleader woah...
you scored on that.
 
not me
im jelly though
 
aww
 
i think i still have my n64 i just dont have any games for it because i didnt have much money back then, being like <10 yrs old
 
12:47 AM
Thats why I loved the dreamcast: all you needed was a CD-R
Too bad it was too expensive :-(
 
I could only afford to rent games for my n64 :(
 
One of my favorite childhood games was Sonic the Hedgehog. The console was only at school, so I didn't get to play it long.
Never was able to play again until like 2 years ago, when I saw at the Anime convention. Then I went and DL'ed an emulator.
 
Your school had a console? this is an outrage!
 
Elementary school. After school daycare had a number of games.
 
I'm emulating SNES right now heheh
I stopped liking sonic for the most part post-Genesis
Though the ones on the Dreamcast were pretty cool
 
1:02 AM
I cannot think of blog content :\
 
talk about how Sonic Adventure 2 is the last good Sonic game.
 
I have never played a Sonic game.
 
I thought about starting a blog once, but then I realized I have nothing to say that would be of interest.
 
My mind is abnormally blank right now.
 
talk about how I have no one to play Smash brothers with
 
1:05 AM
Bacon is always a good topic for blogs
 
Make a mod for it that allows you to play over the interwebs
 
Ah. I played that on the N64. Lots of fun.
 
@Borgleader You already can
I used to do NetPlay on Smash back on 03 and it was fun
 
1:27 AM
I'm drunk
 
No one cares.
 
visits	member for	1 year, 4 months
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wut.
Crowz how are you here?!
 
inb4 cache
 
@Rapptz chat visits don't count as main site visits.
 
I don't think that's true because I don't go on the main site but I have 281 consecutive
Well, there are some days where all I've done is stay in this chat without going on SO proper.
 
1:37 AM
I do that every day :D
 
@Rapptz 281. Wow.
 
@Rapptz But I bet you click though on all the various links that we dump here.
 
@MarkGarcia I've half of it, don't be impressed
 
I wish I could visit that often.
 
what should one know for a 'phone screening' for a job?
 
1:39 AM
@Crowz when not to get drunk?
 
@Mysticial Hmmm I don't know. Maybe.
 
might solve my crippling quietness
 
Google has now support for Cebuano (my mother tongue). I wish I could help in localization.
 
yiz
1:58 AM
I hope google glass has some awesome functionalities, like be able to point out all the potentially edible things like cute ducklings
Gosh i started to sound like bear grylls :x
I do like his line "this is edible" :p
 
google glass?
 
@Pawnguy7 have you been living under a rock?
 
Apparently.
 
well google it :P
 
Oh... I must not be thinking tonight.
 
2:13 AM
@MarkGarcia Would I sound rude if I said the first thing you should work on is helping your fellow speakers on how to pronounce, for example, "pink" instead of "pank"? :-)
 
Hahahaaha, Red Foreman for president
 
@Borgleader How old is that kid?
Like, 13?
He seems old enough to scream expletives on Xbox Live.
 
@EtiennedeMartel 19.
 
@rightfold I'm not surprised.
 
yiz
From a happy, young innocent guy into a old cranky man, you are getting there!
 
2:27 AM
@JerryCoffin That's not Bieber.
@yiz What.
 
yiz
Just joking :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel Okay, one more time: never let facts get in the way of a joke.
 
@JerryCoffin How do you like my "comically serious" side?
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's an improvement on the beer side, anyway. :-)
 
@JerryCoffin Oh you.
 
2:30 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know. I just hate those cheesy lines. And Red Foreman is one of my favorite characters from That 70s Show. Here's why
 
@EtiennedeMartel What do you want for nothing? A rubber biscuit?
 
yiz
It is definitely an improvement, from your ponies/unicorns & a huge one at that
 
@yiz You should watch MLP.
 
yiz
I did
a bit
 
2:45 AM
anyone see the season finale of Doctor Who?
 
@Crowz I didn't.
But no spoilers please.
 
I didn't but then again, I haven't seen any of them.
:P
 
I'm about 5 episodes late anyway. I have a bunch of stuff to catch up before I can watch that finale (which I heard ends with a cliffhanger for the 50th anniversary episode).
 
3:06 AM
Yes, it does
 
Does anybody know when the Haswell desktop CPUs are coming out?
 
this year :P
 
Any clues?
 
June 2013.
 
do you think it will be on Newegg/tiger direct by then?
 
3:12 AM
iunno
Probably won't buy one until a Tick anyway
 
I got a ton of money to buy a new computer for my lab and I need to improved performance. Also I need to buy this thing sometime soon. 1st world problems.
 
know what really irrutates me...of all the homework related questions I've yet to see an assignment to create a smart pointer
 
Java
In Java all pointers are smart?
 
ok, let me qualify that...homework related c++ questions ;)
 
@JerryCoffin I don't know of any people here who pronounce "pink" as "pank". Maybe "penk" :). They (not including me :) ) often pronounces "ee" as "e", like "intelligent" as "entellegent".
 
3:16 AM
@Mikhail Pointers? In java?
 
@Borgleader Everything is a pointer, you and I are both pointers. This is Java
 
Just wrestled with my LAN card. Been acting weird lately. I thought it was fried by the surge.
 
@Mikhail They're not pointers, they're references.
The difference is that you can't do pointer arithmetic with references.
 
Also java has a garbage collector
 
Which means objects can move in memory.
So your average pointer just wouldn't work.
 
yiz
3:26 AM
I would love Java or C# people to say "everything is passed by pointers" instead of "everything is passed by references"
 
@yiz Why? It wouldn't be true.
Especially in C#, which has both pointers and references.
So saying "pass by pointer" to refer to a pass by reference would be incredibly confusing.
Come to think of it, Java doesn't even have pass by reference.
It's just pass by value.
C# does, however, with ref and out (which is just a ref with the Out attribute applied to the parameter).
 
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't everything in Java a reference?
 
@Borgleader Almost (primitive types aren't), but you still pass the reference by value.
 
there are primitive and references
 
Well you pass the reference by value in C++ too, yet we call it pass-by-ref
 
3:31 AM
void theValuesChangeButThePointerStaysTheSame(char* in)
 
@Borgleader It's not exactly the same, but that's mostly because we use the same word ("Reference") to refer (no pun intended) to two different concepts.
In Java, "references" are smart pointers that point to an object instead of an area of memory (the distinction is important).
In C++, "references" are an alias for an object.
 
References are aliases and technically do not exists therefore can't be passed by value.
exists is not the right word :| Let me smack my ass and figure out a different term
 
tmi
 
yiz
sorting out my dental bills - this is sad, even with my private health insurance I still have to fork out over a grand for all the necessary procedures
 
the hell did you do? have half of you teeth pulled out?
 
3:37 AM
“Knock, knock.”

“Who’s there?”

very long pause….

“C++.”

:-o
 
@Veekay Erm.
What's the joke there? If it's about execution speed, I don't think it works really well.
 
wat
 
I call troll
 
@Veekay You're using 8 threads on a single core and with lots of mutexes.
 
Damn it, I hate it when people don't follow up their trolling attempts. I feel like I'm stuck in limbo.
 
3:39 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Oh! I just entered the room with joke.. It's not about execution speed
 
@Veekay What is it about, then?
If you're telling us C++ sucks, well, we know.
 
hehe..
 
i'm pretty sure thats valid C code
 
C++ is really good
 
It's getting better.
 
3:40 AM
At least it doesn't suck like the others.
 
Now all we need is decent tools.
3
 
How about we make an improved version of the Vi editor?
 
yiz
@Borgleader mountaining biking accident - a couple of operations
 
@Mikhail Isn't that called Vim?
 
yikes
 
3:41 AM
@yiz Did you brake with your face? A friend of mine once did that. He now has two dental implants.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes
 
yiz
@EtiennedeMartel with my teeth ...
:'(
 
@EtiennedeMartel Lets ask zoidberg to make a replacement for VS :P
 
in haskell
 
nah he'll make it in go
 
3:47 AM
@Borgleader You mean he'll create a git repo and then leave it at that?
 
yeah, he'll go make a repo for it :P
sorry, im tired
 
It's not easy being green.
 
TIL about Go (programming language)
 
Wow.
First stdbool.h and now Go?
You really are living under a rock eh?
Btw Veekay's top tag is PHP
:@ lots o PHP people in SO
 
How many wonderful things you learn in the Lounge eh...
Hate
Unicorns
Hate
 
3:52 AM
...fear
 
... and hate.
 
Hate? Really?
Dafuq.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I really hope that's a trolling attempt
 
@Jeffrey Are you seriously thinking the Lounge is about hatred?
 
No, it's just all about x sucks.
 
3:54 AM
Oh dear.
 
He has a point.
 
@Jeffrey How often are you here?
 
At least a little bit
 
And some fun here and there of course... otherwise I wouldn't be here at all
@EtiennedeMartel quite often in the last few months
 
3:56 AM
I've been here for 10 months and.. I sort of agree with you.
A little anyway.
We don't often talk about what doesn't suck, just what does.
 
We have some harsh critics, yes. And also two or three whiny bitches (mostly the cat, the puppy and the lobster). But if you look past the trolling and the exaggeration, you'll see we're not that negative.
Actually, I think the main problem is those three guys.
 
I'm not here to criticize anybody. There's more to talk about shitty things than nice ones. I get it, and it's part of this room's charm.
 
May 14 at 23:30, by Rapptz
I stopped caring what you guys thought was bad 6 months ago. :|
:D
 
@Rapptz How you generalizing the Cat's behavior to all of us?
Because that's kinda insulting.
 
Why does GHC take longer to compiler then Open Office?
 
4:01 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I was a little flustered when I said it
 
Take for example the syntax for defining a method in Go. What's so fun about func (w *World) String() string {}? I still don't understand the 2 () pairs...
 
I don't even know what that does
 
According to the author of this presentation, Go is fast, fun, and productive. I think he has some serious medical issues.
 
He's from Google so he might have a little bit of bias
Anyway I'm sure Go is cool somehow
Just not my type of language to go into.
 
 
4:06 AM
@Rapptz I don't think so. I think it's the consequence of this "we try to do everything" shitty politic Google adopted few years ago.
 
@Rapptz You mean alcohol?
 
@Feeds Huh, we were playing that here a while ago.
I got a nice score too :D
@EtiennedeMartel no
I don't drink
 
That might be the problem, then.,
 
Do one job and do it right. They even got lucky with GMail. Just stop. Don't push it.
 
Well, I don't actively drink.
I've drank a couple times before when depressed
But I think that's the extent of it
 
4:09 AM
> Rule #25: never drink when depressed
 
@Jeffrey That would be Rule #2, actually (with #1 being "never drink alone").
Dafuq, both Gaz Métro and Vidéotron have their online portals down for maintenance.
 
They told me I should tattoo that phrase on me. (never drink alone)
@EtiennedeMartel I was referring to my personal set of life rules
 
I need advice on how to survive another 3 weeks of crunch time and not go completely insane tia
 
yiz
define crunch time
 
Take a fucking guess
 
yiz
4:25 AM
Deal with it, everyone here has 1000000000+ problem of their own and yet no one is died so far
 
I'm pretty sure crunch time is the only time when your not supposed to drink
Or possibly:
Crunch time is what you say to a women before laying down a serious smashing.
 
4:39 AM
Can I have an 'auto' return type?
 
sorta
You can have a trailing return type
but in C++14 you can have plain old auto
 
where to the major public C++14 discussions occur online?
 
How much longer until C++14, perhaps 2014 :-)
 
@Rapptz Sure? As in deduced in return statement?
 
4:54 AM
For normal functions yeah
 
@Rapptz But those returns need to return values of the same type, I presume?
 
Eh?
 
@Rapptz What if there's two branches, one in an if and the other in an else. What if the return in if returns an int but the else returns a float?
There must be some limitation.
Anyway, I'm very excited. In fact, I happened to ask a question on that topic.
 
Thanks.
 
5:02 AM
I still don't get decltype(auto)
 
@Rapptz yes, I never understood what the advantage was
 
@Rapptz Still haven't reached that part, but maybe it is made to be compatible in syntax with the existing trailing return type syntax.
 
5:15 AM
Does anybody have a favorite code review website?
I want somebody to give me pointers on my producer consumer frameskip implementation.
 
Is that your favorite?
 
It's only decent one I know.
 
5:35 AM
I'm giving it a shot!
 
5:53 AM
Hello there!
I cannot seem to find any list of C++11 attributes supported by GCC. Is there any such list?
 
@Mikhail: Well, there is no list of supported attributes there.
 
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Jayesh BadwaikThere is a particular user who has created a particular chatroom where his intentions are very clear. He wants to attract attention of girls to the room and wants to chat with them. (Not sure if he will succeed but whatever.) While, I personally do not have any problem with it, I am wondering whe...

 
@wilx what do you mean by attribute?
 
6:01 AM
I somehow noticed a change on how firefox renders my web app project. Hmm...
It's more like chrome's.
 
I have a funny situation where only Opera is able to do smooth animations while everybody else fails. It is called lag.
 
@Mikhail Chrome does very well.
 
@wilx yeah, I'm having no luck finding that either.
 
@MarkGarcia I wonder if it depends on your graphics card and OS, for example nvidia vs Intel on Mesa
@MarkGarcia do Linux builds of Firefox use Nvidia's drivers?
 
@Mikhail Could be. I've installed a newer graphics driver. That may be is the cause.
@Mikhail I don't know. What I know (IIRC) is that it is not long before that NVidia has released it's own drivers for linux.
 
6:05 AM
@MarkGarcia opensource?
I think nvidia has them, they are just binary blobs. not clear how Linux programs are supposed to use them. Not sure if requires recompiling. If I recall correctly Linux builds of Firefox had graphics disabled.
 
I think it's created by NVidia, though I also think they use parts of the open source drivers.
 
Welp.
Movability has solved my pointer indirection problem.
I can now change any asset I want to at runtime without penalty.
This is great for artists who want to see their new stuff in game ASAP.
I should do a check in finally...
And, checked in!
Now I need to go back to Story and Theorycrafting.
 
6:27 AM
@ThePhD As in move semantics?
 
Yes.
 
@ThePhD It helps greatly, but not all the time. You must also be very careful in your syntax because you can have mistakes in not moving the objects and therefore could result to copying.
 
std::move() is pretty explicit.
 
@Xeo I've been wondering if it could be reintroduced later. Then it would be the best of all worlds: start with a cut-down proposal, easier to get passed and implement, add fully-fleshed out features later. Unfortunately I'm not so sure... that being said, it is as hairy to specify/implement as it is attractive (likely not by coincidence).
 
6:48 AM
Can template parameters disambiguate a function call from one without template parameters?
E.g.

template <typename T>
T get () {

}

vs.

float get () {

}
 
@ThePhD I think yes.
The two differ in how they are called: get<>() and get()
With the template argument in get<>() of course.
 
Hm.
 
@ThePhD Coliru is always there. :P
 
I think I've filled Stacked's servers with enough bad code for a lifetime.
 
6:54 AM
@MarkGarcia Turns out it can even generate a function that'd have the same return value and parameters as a templated function: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/…
 
Ell
@thephd the non template one is favoured
 
Yeah, but if it always requires a template parameter it looks like there's no ambiguity
So in the end you always choose, not the compiler.
 
@ThePhD But the result may not always be what you expect. :)
 
Ell
@thephd but if a template and a non template have the same signature, the non template will be chosen
 
@Ell If and only if the template function looks like the non-template function at the call site.
For example, get in this case doesn't qualify because no type-deduction can be performed on what T is supposed to be. So it'll never be ambigious.
However, if T was taken as a parameter, then you'd get a problem: get( 1.0f ); // Which one?
But that's only in cases were template parameter deduction is applied. If you don't default typename T or make it so T can be deduced by arguments, you can't cause a collision with get ();
 
7:31 AM
morning all
 
morning
 
Good morning.
 
so very tender... went paint-balling on Saturday
and tired as all fuck too
 
yiz
bruises?
Once I suggested to the company I worked for that we should have paint ball as team building exercise, it got brutally rejected.
 
Sounds like fun.
Laser Tag is nicer IMHO.
 
7:37 AM
I wish I have the chance to play.
 
yiz
But they did take my suggestion that we should have buffet lunch on Fridays sometimes (free lunch fridays)
 
@yiz Disclaimer: Deducted from your salary.
:)
 
yiz
Instead of paint, maybe they should have soft, fluffy ducklings in the guns. I would want to be shot so many times in that case :p
 
It's good fun paintballing, though this place was a bit too big for our group. It was really well run place, but we where a group of twenty out about 100 people, so you lost the social aspect to it somewhat
 
@yiz That would be... duck-balling?
 
7:40 AM
@thecoshman oh woah, that's something I've never done
 
@thecoshman Bigger place, better game, I think. You could do some really cool sniper ops stuff. I envy you.
 
@MarkGarcia yeah it was a nice big place, so you could move around plenty, but like I said, the social aspect went. But no, no sniping. As far as I could tell, the guns have no rifling, so you are lucky to hit the same spot twice
 
yiz
You don't want to be hit in the same spot twice. In close distance, paint ball = pain ball
 
@thecoshman At least it has a closer feel of the real thing. And yeah, having your group with another snatches time that are meant to be for your group. Experienced that many times on beach outings.
 
@yiz the marshals were quite good at saving you from getting destroyed at close range to be fair. All the games involved trying to push up close to the enemy, so they intervene when some one gets really close, and brigns them forward to a safe sort until the next phase
 

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