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3:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you have the older 128MB model right?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Raspberry Pi. You are just too awesome. How about putting /tmp on an external USB drive?
 
That's what she said.
@thecoshman Yes, but I thought it was 256MB and the new ones 512MB.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah yeah, those be the numbers :P
 
Anyway, 512MB is still not enough.
 
no?
have you tried it with 512?
 
3:01 PM
Lemme fire htop while compiling.
Memory usage goes up to about 800MB.
Unless I compile tests, in which case it goes way past 1.6GB.
 
o_0
 
So yeah, 512MB would probably still thrash like mad.
It would not take the same time, but I doubt it would change magnitude.
@thecoshman I have no idea why GCC is so memory-hungry, though.
 
ah, you could guess hundreds of reasons
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I strongly (seriously) believe this is because they wrote it in C.
Memory management is such a drag there was no room for improvement of a design.
 
I can't get numbers right now because clang doesn't build it, but it wasn't a very big improvement back when I was trying it on the Pi.
As soon as it starts thrashing, all is lost.
 
3:09 PM
RPi I/O is sloow
 
Thrashing makes anything slow no matter what is beneath it, though.
 
Ell
is clang written in c++?
 
But yeah, I/O on the SD card is painful by itself.
 
@Ell yes.
@R.MartinhoFernandes even the USB I/O is slow on the RPi.
 
Never tried it.
 
3:10 PM
@rubenvb well yeah, it's main 'drive' is a SD card, and it uses it's USB controller for networking too
 
I can't download at 1MB/s and watch a fullHD movie at the same time without stuttering.
 
@rubenvb because it is using usb for the ehternet port
 
@thecoshman yeah.
 
@rubenvb oh, and lol at 'fullHD'
 
@thecoshman why is that?
I fail to see the humor of 1080*1920 pixels of 24bit colours.
or whatever x264 uses.
> Support of sample bit depth precision ranging from 8 to 14 bits per sample (depending on the selected profile).
 
3:24 PM
@rubenvb this strange idea that it is the maximum definition, you can get any more then 'fullHD'.
bus time :D
 
@thecoshman I can hardly wait for 4K, so I can display pictures from my still camera onto a screen at (approximately) their full resolution.
 
@thecoshman There's HD Ready (720p), there's CrapHD (1080i), there's FullHD (1080p) and there's 4k (4 times FullHD).
 
@JerryCoffin would that be 4K vertical or horizontal? :p
 
Hmm, second time someone tells me my shyness makes people uneasy. :( WTF I am shy because I feel uneasy around strangers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe you look at them like a starving elephant.
 
3:26 PM
@melak47 Per the usual television convention, vertical.
 
(I don't know, just an educated guess)
 
@JerryCoffin makes more sense I suppose. 4K horizontal wouldn't be that great of a still camera
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Think about it like this: Spiders make people uneasy, but people make spiders even more uneasy!
 
@rubenvb Now I will be constantly wondering whether I look like a starving elephant, and act even weirder. Thanks.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol. Just google "starving elephant" and take a look in the mirror. Convince yourself you're better-looking than a starving elephant.
 
3:29 PM
@melak47 That'd be a roughly a 10 megapixel camera -- not bad for a compact camera, pretty much obsolete for an SLR. 4k vertical goes with roughly 6K horizontal, or about 24 megapixels -- not quite cutting edge for an SLR (Nikon D800 does 36 MP) but basically one step short of it.
 
@ScottW I don't think so.
I'm sure you're way sexier than that in real life.
 
@ScottW Doesn't look much like your gravatar.
 
@ScottW oh gawd, wtf is that monster?
 
I should attempt another go at Arch Linux on Sony Vaio Z.
 
@ScottW What sort of twisted monster would do that to a bear?
 
3:31 PM
It's gonna suck and I'll have wasted another couple of hours, but heck.
I'll have built character.
 
@ScottW Ah, that at least makes a little sense, I guess.
 
@ScottW maybe they're evolving...rapidly :p
1. lose hair
2. walk on 2 legs
3. ???
4. Profit
 
my vm just froze untarring gcc 4.8.0
it's a sign
 
I'd rather watch attrack of the lens flare than Star Trek: MLP
 
3:38 PM
@melak47 You should watch MLP.
 
It's great for your skin.
 
not gonna happen
 
@ScottW I am bad enough to annoy myself to the point of wanting to change it. At least I try, though.
 
great, so after HOURS of charging that stupid battery, I am finally permitted to upgrade the firmware! (but it's not even telling me which version I am upgrading to >_>)
 
3:40 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Being too shy means you're an awkward moment generator.
 
@melak47 probably some nonsensical patch release that reinstalls all their crapware.
 
quick question. does a plain ubuntu (or any *nix machine) with gcc come with an C data structure library. Or a Queue in particular?
 
@rubenvb all the crap will feel right at home on my desk :3
 
@EtiennedeMartel That does ring true.
 
user142019
@gideon POSIX doesn't require such a library. I think Ubuntu ships with GLib, though.
 
3:40 PM
BY THE WAY DID YOU KNOW I HAVE A BOOK OUT TODAY WELL I DO YOU SHOULD TOTALLY GET IT BECAUSE IT'S AWWWWWWWESUM.
fights urge to do as he says
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You gotta learn to improvise.
 
@rightfold So I will be correct in writing my own right? I just didn't want to seem stupid writing a queue when there already might be one.
 
@gideon you should use C++.
 
user142019
GLib has many data structures.
 
user142019
Anyway, implementing a queue isn't too difficult, is it?
 
3:42 PM
It got the goodies like std::queue
 
user142019
Depending on the storage, of course. Which is usually an array or a linked list unless you want thread-safety.
 
Never implement things that are already implemented
4
 
^golden words
I choose to completely ignore on a daily basis.
 
@CatPlusPlus yep this is what I'm worried about. I don't have an issue implementing a queue
 
"Android is upgrading... Optimizing app 4 of 66"
 
3:43 PM
@melak47 that's odex magic. You're nearly there.
 
66 apps by default? I was not prepared for this amount of bloatware
 
Working on a small, standalone GL prog. Happy moment when I realize I don’t NEED to use the core profile. glBegin FTW!
 
~bloat~
 
oh come fucking on.
 
@melak47 not all are apps. Some are Android services like email etc...
 
3:44 PM
@CatPlusPlus don't you know what bloatware is?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ....Carmack posted that? the hell?
 
or are you perhaps implying that these all apps are irrelevant?
 
@melak47 How do you know it's too much?
 
@BartekBanachewicz depending on your manufacturer, some might even be slightly useful
 
user142019
glBegin is fine if you don't give a shit about flexibility and performance. And maybe he doesn't.
 
3:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't even have 66 apps on my WP7.
 
@rightfold I betcha carmack can do more with fixed pipeline that I can do with shaders :P
 
@ID_AA_Carmack glBegin? You mean "renderPrimitive :: PrimitiveMode -> IO a -> IO a" ;-)
 
@rubenvb I was looking at submitting a Perl XS solution to this problem I was asked to do.
 
@TonyTheLion puppies are not cute imho. kittens are
 
3:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you suck
 
@TonyTheLion you suck more
 
alll the sucking :)
We're one in sucking
:P
 
You two should have a sucking competition.
 
Well this escalated quickly!
 
user142019
Everyone sucks case closed.
 
3:47 PM
@gideon please reply to the replies using the neat arrow to the left of my comments you want to reply to.
 
I would totally suck some strawberry coctail
 
I have a TV show backlog
How did this happen
 
but no nice strawberries yet.
 
shit. tar is reporting write failed.
 
@CatPlusPlus You were lazy?
 
3:48 PM
The question is why.
 
So. People over at /r/mylittlepony have been busy deconstructing Equestria Girls' trailer almost frame by frame in order to suck as much information as possible out of a 1 minute video.
This fandom is nuts.
 
You mean cocktail
 
@EtiennedeMartel ahahahah
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, really?
 
@CatPlusPlus look! he wrote cock! hahaha
@EtiennedeMartel I asked friends about it. The opinions vary.
 
3:48 PM
@rubenvb Ah I see. I mean't I was planning to write a perl xs solution to this problem. I figured a C++ implementation might just be a lot uglier when it comes to interfacing with perl.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Actually that's the word
Not coctail
 
but in general most await new seasons.
 
So you know
 
@CatPlusPlus Fun fact: "tail" is "queue" in French, and "queue" is also slang for a penis.
 
The question is, what's worse, liking Justin Bieber or MLP?
 
3:48 PM
So "cocktail" is somewhat redundant.
 
@CatPlusPlus no shit, sherlock.
 
@TonyTheLion Yes
 
@gideon choose the right tool for a job. Perl is often not it.
 
user142019
Perl is cool.
 
no it's not
bring up the chart
 
3:49 PM
lol
 
user142019
I like Perl.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah. I have low expectations for that, but I'm sure it's gonna be an enjoyable 72 minute. S4 is where it's at, though.
 
it scored like -70% on my chart and even less on Cat's
 
user142019
Perl shouldn't be seen as a general-purpose language.
 
@ScottW A little. I think I don't need a "Talk to me!" badge anymore.
 
3:50 PM
@rubenvb It's an interview competition (on an algorithm based problem) for Perl, I wrote a Pure perl program and since these guys like performance and XS I was thinking of throwing in a Perl::xs with C implementation as a bonus?? What do you think?
 
@rightfold s/as a general purpose language// FTFY.
 
12 people voted for Perl, 8 of them voted 0
 
@gideon why did you think coming to the Lounge<C++> would solve your problem?
 
@gideon I wouldn't use Perl at all
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You'll get over it, don't worry.
Eventually, you won't even need alcohol!
 
3:52 PM
Alcohol doesn't really help.
3
 
@gideon Everything is ugly when Perl gets involved. Just write it as C++ and be done with it.
 
Works for me
 
I don't drink alone.
 
user142019
Screw you, T-Mobile NS.
 
user142019
With your slow Internet connection.
 
3:53 PM
@JerryCoffin hehe. Perl is cryptic. But sure I could do that as well.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Excellent.
 
user142019
Mail pigeons are faster.
 
@JerryCoffin C++ is not ugly when everything gets involved?
 
@rightfold But not as fast as burritos.
 
user142019
@JerryCoffin Implying not everything is ugly when C++ gets involved.
 
3:54 PM
@rubenvb I'm sorry that it digressed to perl but my original problem was a C issue. Which I thought C++ guys would be familiar with :)
 
@rightfold Most C++ is ugly, but at least there's some possibility of writing C++ that's only mildly distasteful.
 
@gideon Clearly you don't know C++.
 
user142019
C++ guys are familiar with C++ (well, at least/best a tiny little bit), not with C.
 
Assembly . C ................................................................................ C++ ................................................................................‌​.. Haskell
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, monads are like burritos!
 
3:55 PM
That about sums it up.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Burritos are much tastier than monads.
 
not that I know Haskell.
 
@rightfold Some of us are (or at least once were) quite familiar with C.
 
It just seemed to fit at the right.
 
neat, the galaxy s2 actually upgraded to 4.1.2. Close enough I suppose?
 
3:56 PM
@melak47 Close enough to what, for what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Alcohol does the opposite, only times you can score when really drunk is with girls you know since before. With unknowns you should aim for four-five beers drunk ime.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Golden.
 
@JerryCoffin close enough to "not some ancient crap", for developing shudder android crap
 
user142019
C is nice.
 
@melak47 Yeah, that's Jelly Bean.
 
3:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes apparently 4.2.2 is going to come to the s2, too. but it's not there yet
 
4.3 is still jelly bean too.
 
S2 came with Gingerbread, I think, which is 2.3.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You know, maybe it'll even be good.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yup, which was on this one still :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah -- Samsung stuck with Gingerbread for a long time.
 
user142019
3:58 PM
Jelly of iOS.
 
@melak47 Gingerbread still has the largest market share :|
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ugh
 
user142019
tw
 
I'm developing a web app mostly anyway, so whatever I don't care leave me alone :(
 
user142019
Damn. Stupid Chrome not entering into omnibar.
 
3:59 PM
Yeah, I'd not develop for JB. Maybe ICS at the very latest.
 
user142019
IcedCoffeeScript
 

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