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user142019
7:00 PM
At least it compiles.
 
Xeo
Knows nothing of that business
@Zoidberg vector?
 
user142019
døh T_T
 
user142019
Dankeschön, Xeo.
 
@FredOverflow I don't get it, what's the point of doing that? So you can malloc different sizes at different times? Why not just malloc the damn array then?
 
Xeo
Maaan, I need to catch Richard Smith on #llvm... but he either doesn't have interwebs or doesn't come online. :<
 
7:01 PM
@Xeo For every language feature proposed, you have to donate a kidney.
 
user142019
Hmm wait.
 
@Collin You want additional meta-data with the array.
 
@FredOverflow I guess it cuts down one malloc
 
Xeo
Yep. Also, contiguity and locality
 
> It is an accepted "fact" that using goto is poor software engineering practice. That doesn't make it true.
uh
It's true nevertheless
 
7:03 PM
Some things are common knowledge and also true
 
There's nothing wrong with using goto when it's appropriate.
 
I've seen C initialization code that uses it quite well
 
goto is not poor practice. Bad usage of goto is poor practice.
 
Right. It just so happens 90% of goto usage is bad practice. But it's basically the same for inheritance, so...
 
@FredOverflow It's rarely appropriate though
 
7:05 PM
@kbok Sometimes (not often, but sometimes) it's the best alternative available, in which case using it is good engineering practice.
 
@FredOverflow yes..
 
Inheritance considered goto
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, well, it depends heavily on the language I guess. I never ever felt the need to use one since 7 years though.
 
I have a `getMagnitude` that does what it says for "axis" controls. However, only the sticks have a direction as well. Should I:

~Make getDirection` accept an axis and return 0 on a trigger, or
~make a stick enum
?
 
(Yeah, I remember clearly the last time I used goto)
 
7:06 PM
goto example in EoP - state machine
 
curious
 
Can you have "higher-order gotos"? Like, store a line number in a variable x and then goto x? Or store a label in a variable x and then goto x?
 
LWG rejects a perfectly good noexcept specification because it's conditional.
 
@FredOverflow class hell {}; class my_life : public hell {}; Not really like goto. Where goto tells me something to do, inheritance just states facts. (Well, falsehood in this case, but one I found funny).
 
@JerryCoffin Except that with inheritance, method calls become complicated gotos that can change targets at runtime.
 
7:08 PM
@FredOverflow Can -- don't necessarily.
 
Xeo
So good
 
@FredOverflow In BASIC you can.
 
@Pawnguy7 You should have two different data types
 
Does anyone here work with webpages? I just discovered that the top 5 browsers handle links to wave files badly, and <audio controls><audio src="a.wav" type="audio/wave"></audio> as well. No browser I tested can (A) save the wave via the link, (B) play the wave via the link, and (C) play the wave via the audio control.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow GCC extension: void* label = &&some_label; goto label;
 
7:09 PM
@Xeo Is that all voices exclusively? Wow.
 
@Xeo that's awesome
 
I think the drums is not him
 
Xeo
Smooth McGroove is awesome.
 
sbi
> I'm not saying the internet is bullshit, but there's a huge discrepancy between the number of iPad's I've won & the number of iPad's I own. — Chris Burns
2
 
Guys, @EtiennedeMartel linked him a few days ago I think.
 
sbi
7:10 PM
Good evening.
 
Xeo
@sbi Ew, abuse of '
 
@Xeo smells like stackless coroutine
 
sbi
@Xeo Indeed. I just copy-pasted it, though.
 
@Xeo OMG wet jeans
 
getDirection(Stick.LEFT);
getDirection(Stick.LEFT_STICK);
 
7:11 PM
@Xeo ib4 vector<void*>
 
@kbok Yeah.
 
I cannot decide.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I thought you don't live with your gf?
 
Xeo
@kbok So what? I found him even before that!
 
Wikipedia is awesome.
 
7:11 PM
Okay then :)
 
@sbi It was the flexible goto that made me cum.
 
Xeo
Holy crap, Guile's Theme already got 1m views...
It's from April 8th
 
@Xeo Anyway, Guile's Theme goes with everything.
 
std::map<std::string, void*>; // there, switch on a string value
 
sbi
7:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel That guy must have been linked here last year. or there's someone else doing this shit.
 
Xeo
@sbi Huh?
 
@Pawnguy7 meh
 
sbi
@Xeo I am sure I have been on some YT channel last year where someone does nothing but this. And I bet it's been linked from here.
 
@Xeo Regarding what?
 
@Pawnguy7 look at XNA, they got it right
 
sbi
7:14 PM
@FredOverflow "Flexible goto", huh? How does she do this?
6
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Variants
 
@sbi Lots of void pointers.
 
@Xeo Where? I don't see variants.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Puppy wants to write a variant proposal
 
sbi
@FredOverflow And you are going to fill the void she's pointing at? I think I get the idea...
 
7:15 PM
@FredOverflow Women often makes references to unknown or forgotten things.
 
@Xeo It better not suck!
 
Xeo
That's where you come in!
 
@LucDanton You're so helpful :v:
 
@sbi Would you stop trying to make me horny already?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Ow cum on! You get horny when you see a dynamic goto. How can I stop pointing out sexy syntax in the C++ channel?
 
user142019
7:16 PM
@FredOverflow jmp *%r11 another flexible goto!
 
goto in assembly language, who would have thought!
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Donald Knuth. I bet.
 
Xeo
@sbi Reminds me of:
5 hours ago, by Luc Danton
@Xeo Oh god, sexy.
Okay, that may seem out of context.
 
sbi
@Xeo Aw, don't worry. I have met you, so I know you're not a sexy god.
 
Xeo
My feelings, Arg_!
 
7:19 PM
awesome!
 
sbi
@Rapptz Why am I not surprised?
 
Not sure if the cat likes it though
 
@sbi Because you've known Alf quite a while?
 
I do like seeing Alf all riled up, it's entertaining
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin When I heard he became a mod on clc++m, I was wondering. I have seen him in quite silly rows.
 
7:21 PM
@kbok Do you have a link on that? I can find the buttons but not analogs
 
sbi
@Collin When it comes to arguments, nothing compares to the penguin destroying the puppy.
 
Penguin? Did I miss an avatar change?
 
@Collin Jalf.
 
oh, duh
 
sbi
@Collin I'd doubt he'd ever change his avatar. Allegedly it's been drawn by someone dear to him.
 
sbi
So now that the insect turned out to be a boy, @kbok came out as a girl?
 
@sbi My reaction was fairly similar, possibly a bit stronger. Seemed to me more like one of the people who needed above-average amounts of moderating, if anything.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Yeah, it seemed a strange pick.
 
I wonder what got him the ban, though.
 
7:23 PM
Often I neglect to look at the enlarged versions of avatars, I thought sehe was a white gorilla for weeks
 
boy, the LWG issues list processing is boring as fuck
 
@sbi Twist: I'm neither a girl nor an otter or a ghost. Can you recognize her by the way?
 
the minutae of the requirements of unique_ptr's assignment operator
 
@EtiennedeMartel Alf got banned?
 
And I wonder if he'll learn anything from it.
 
7:24 PM
@Borgleader temporary
 
@EtiennedeMartel hahahaha
 
lol ouch
 
Must have been bad.
 
sbi
@kbok Why would I recognize some random girl? (Did you perhaps forget that I have been living without a TV since before some of you here were born?)
 
7:24 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Can't say for sure, but from what I've seen, being banned for a whole month usually means more than one thing happened.
 
Or maybe it's a "last straw" thing.
@sbi Curse those evil communists.
 
user142019
Is there something like offsetof hat works on non-standard-layout-types?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Who's the camel then? Jeff?
 
@sbi No idea.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Um. That was after the reunification. Sorry.
 
7:26 PM
@sbi Not random. Also, she's probably been famous for longer than that. (In France anyway)
 
@Zoidberg No.
 
user142019
:'(
 
@sbi I've been without a TV for most of the past 7 years. But... I've had four 20+in. monitors for much of that time as well. :)
 
yay! I hit 1800...time for a cuervo
 
sbi
@kbok Hey, would you believe it?! I know that name! (That song is from when I did live in a household with a TV, though.)
 
7:27 PM
@CaptainObvlious Quick! someone downvote something random
 
@collin LOL take me back to being the devil
 
@sbi See? :)
 
sbi
@Mysticial Oh my, 7 years. You must feel so good. I didn't live where there's a TV since 1990.
@kbok Yeah, but she was a 14yo teen back then. Why would I recognize her pic?
@EtiennedeMartel It's been almost 25 years, indeed.
 
7:30 PM
Hurray! Cispa passed. /s
 
@FredOverflow That had to be posted here at least 200 times.
 
@sbi Well, we never know.
 
@Drise Through the house, apparently having trouble getting votes in the senate
 
@FredOverflow It's like the most famous video of the internet since last week
 
@Collin How do they know the senate count?
 
7:31 PM
@sbi 7 years is almost 1/3 of my life so far. 1990 is 23 years ago. I figure you're somewhere between 50 - 60 years old - which is more than 1/3. Fine... you win!
 
@sbi Have I mentioned how I'm not too familiar with German history?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel No.
@Mysticial Haha! (You got it all wrong.)
 
@sbi Well, I'm doing it now.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Where?
 
@sbi I mean, I'm mentioning it.
 
7:32 PM
@sbi Where did I mess up? :)
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, feel free to. I am waiting for it.
 
@Drise I don't think they have it for sure, but I was reading this morning that it doesn't have a great chance there.. the house voted almost along party lines with dems against it
 
@sbi Erm.
Oh, right, I forgot that I have to be as precise as possible with you.
 
@Xeo do you have llvm commit access?
 
@Collin Dems were 50/50. Repubs were almost party lines
 
Xeo
7:33 PM
@StephenLin no?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Just assume I am a C++ compiler.
 
@Drise holy crap what the hell was I reading then
 
@Xeo okay just curious. i have all these stupid little patches piling up because no one picks them up for me.
 
Xeo
@sbi Can we get you to ICE with a bit of template-wankery too?
 
sbi
@Mysticial You got to include 1990. Also, you got my age wrong.
 
@sbi You're not between 50 - 60?
 
sbi
@Xeo You guys do this all the time.
 
I dont trust reporters, i find the source
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Yeah, he's way older than that. Still can hold his liquor much better than the robot.
 
7:36 PM
@Drise weird, I must have been in a serious fog when I read stuff this morning
 
@Xeo woah...
 
sbi
@Xeo Not that this is anything to write home about.
@Mysticial Did you notice that one of your legs is now slightly longer than the other?
 
@sbi dammit
 
Xeo
haha
 
Would anybody like to review my preliminary xinput input wrapper interface?
 
sbi
7:37 PM
@Pawnguy7 How would we know?
 
@sbi know what?
 
sbi
@Pawnguy7 Whether anybody would like to do that. Isn't that what you asked?
 
@Pawnguy7 Whether there's anybody who'd like to review your proposal.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Parakeet.
 
@Collin What i'm pissed about is that my rep voted for it. He voted against it last year, so I had hope.
 
7:39 PM
Sigh. Well, could think of it this way. If you do, then you know whether or not somebody wants to.
 
@Drise Mine didn't vote, not sure whether to be mad or not
 
sbi
@Pawnguy7 Well, so me asking this should give actually you a clue about whether I would like to...
 
@Xeo That's probably because of training.
 
@Collin lol, one of 17. pussy. or was sick, or some other nonsense
But with how big this bill was, I would do my damndest to vote
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel If it's just the stuff at the top, I like it a lot, except for "for the love of all that is nice and fluffy". If there's anything "nice and fluffy" in this room, then I have indeed been away for too long.
 
7:40 PM
It is less than a hundred lines though. Like, really, really small.
 
@Drise oh wait, might have been dealing with Boston stuff, I'm an idiot
I'm in Massachusetts
 
@Collin That makes a difference, but if you think about it, what could a congresswoman do for Boston atm?
It's up to the fbi right now afaik
 
@sbi Yeah, it's just the stuff at the top.
 
she doesn't cover any of the boston cities and immediate suburbs either, but yeah, it's not like I have her schedule
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Good. May I suggest: "And please, don't act like we owe you something. You'll get flamed to death. If we deem you worthwhile." for the end of that paragraph?
 
7:43 PM
@sbi Hmmm.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Well, it was just a suggestion... But really, "nice and fluffy"? The lounge?
 
@sbi Sock Puppet.
 
@sbi Sure.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin What's that? Are you actually suggesting you're just a sockpuppet of mine?
 
That'll teach you to leave the room owners.
 
7:44 PM
LWG dealing with std::function's constructor now
finally
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I bet I still have write access to the wiki.
 
@sbi Probably. The Cat is fucking lazy.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel The Cat is a cat.
 
He's a human being, actually.
 
@sbi Hardly.
 
sbi
7:46 PM
@EtiennedeMartel All the evidence points towards him being a cat, though.
 
@sbi Except that cats don't talk.
 
why am I so beautiful?
 
@EtiennedeMartel cats can hit keys on a keyboard though right?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel To be fair, whatever he says sounds like moaning — which would hint at him being feline, no=
@Drise Hence PERL.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Do we have results from a Turing test to prove that? If a cat fails a Turing test, is it because it couldn't pass, or because the test was beneath its notice?
 
7:48 PM
@JerryCoffin He would probably claim the test was unintuitive anway.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin The latter, definitely.
 
WTF is the turing test?
 
sbi
Yay! Give me another 20mins, and the starboard is all mine.
@Drise You're pulling our legs, aren't you?
Please say yes.
 
@sbi I know what it's designed to accomplish, but I've never actually seen the test itself
I should have made test italic
 
7:50 PM
Also, this cat is a mayor, so, yeah, Cat could be actually a cat.
 
Stubbs the Cat
Mayor of Talkeetna, Alaska
> Incumbent
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, get real. That's in Alaska. For all we know they're probably fucking their cats there, because they're so goddamn bored.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Jan Peter Balkenende haha awesome.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why do we have the highest concentration of them?
 
user142019
He's often called "Harry Potter" because of his glasses lol.
 
7:52 PM
@Drise The turing test is about determining whether you can give a ring to two different women without them noticing.
 
I find the fact that it's Incumbent is funny
 
@FredOverflow FRED! Hi.
 
sbi
@Borgleader Probably because it's assembled by a Canadian.
 
No human has run since, or?
 
7:52 PM
And hey there's a list of cats
:wikipedia:
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus There's also a list of lists of lists.
 
user142019
It should include itself.
 
user142019
And there should be a page of lists of lists of lists that don't include themselves.
 
@Zoidberg How is that possible in a statically typed Wikipedia page?
 
user142019
A void hyperlink.
 
7:58 PM
Oh wait, it doesn't say what the element type of the last list is.
 

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