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8:00 PM
Do some development studioes release games they cannot fix?
 
hello ppl
 
@Pawnguy7 more games they won't fix
 
of course
 
@Gopikanna Hello person
 
@TonyTheLion Naw, most devs aren't like that.
 
8:01 PM
OFFS
 
I don't have a struct pair :(
 
std::pair
 
I want one.
 
Is it me, or does the github desktop app look similar to microsoft.com things?
 
if i malloc x later, how to make sure that x and y lie close in memory
 
8:02 PM
fuck this shit, ask on Stack Overflow
 
@Gopikanna First, use std::string instead of char *. Second, use std::pair instead of your crappy hand rolled solution.
Third, why ask about malloc in a C++ room?
 
x and y always lie close in memory.
 
harhar, I already had that guy plonked earlier
 
lol struct pair
 
8:03 PM
@DeadMG I have never seen him here
struct myass_gtfo
 
Don't edit audit messages
 
I don't recognize him either.
but you all started reacting to something I couldn't see, and then I observed that I plonked that guy before
 
dat fish
 
Big Fish.
 
@CatPlusPlus Why not?
 
8:04 PM
@DeadMG It's the multithreaded singleton guy.
Has one of the most starred messages ever in the lounge.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh :(
 
How can you guys not recognise him?
 
Because it makes harder to audit them~
 
Jan 29 at 14:00, by Gopikanna
hey guys, I am trying to implement a singleton class in multithreaded environment
 
original message?
 
8:04 PM
don't remember
 
Never seen him before
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that guy
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because it's not about the messenger, it's about the message? :D
 
:(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I remember that
 
8:05 PM
oh
 
ahahahahahahah
 
I was sick as a dog all January.
 
dat pun ^
 
@DeadMG With 25 stars, I think that message was prominently visible for some chunk of February.
 
@DeadMG Wait, does that mean you blind plonk people now?
"Oh, I'm sure I don't like that guy; ignore!"
 
8:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes He wasn't paying attention during most of February.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wat, no.
 
@EtiennedeMartel every UserXXXXX that comes in here has little chance not ending on my plonk list
but then I'll unplonk if needed
 
@TonyTheLion That's racist.
 
@EtiennedeMartel userist - ftfy
 
8:08 PM
Evilâ„¢.
 
In 3000 years when Evil returns, so shall we.
 
What was that legal site that simplified the terms of a license?
 
legaltldr or something
 
tldrlegal, yes
Thank you
 
indeed that
 
8:10 PM
Can you productively program ad chat at the same time?
 
No, but that's a secret.
 
I'm pretty productive.
 
My productivity has tended towards zero as time has passed on since joining this chat room.
times I'm most productive is when I'm not on this chat
I wonder how large the transcript of this room would be if you were to download it?
 
I'm most productive when I'm not slacking off.
 
8:17 PM
True.
 
logical robot is logical
I'm having chocolate chip cookies, yum yum
 
For dinner?
 
no
dessert
 
hmm
I could do something like (< >).
 
Are you talking about....... templates?
 
8:19 PM
( . )( . )
 
I need a syntax for calling them
also to re-use for my own meta-functionality in Wide.
 
In 10 years Wide may be Wide spread.
or it may not
 
well
I initially hoped to just use () and differentiate based on semantic context.
but it turns out that isn't enough in some cases.
 
I think the reason why so few ladies approach me is because I’m so fucking awesome, that I intimidate them.
 
8:21 PM
FTR D uses foo!(bar) to avoid ambiguities.
 
considered that.
the main issue is that I'm not sure if that co-operates with !foo as a grammatical production.
 
Well I'm not suggesting that you use the same, but yeah there's an ambiguity.
 
@LucDanton foo!bar works too.
 
I actually considered dropping ! altogether and just using ~ for both logical and binary NOT.
same for || vs |, and && vs &.
I figure if I don't have implicit integer-to-bool conversions, there'll be no ambiguities.
then it won't matter if !(exprs) won't play nice with !expr as a logical expression.
 
bool as integer is evil anyway.
 
8:27 PM
aww, sod it, let's just use !( for now.
 
working on a project together?
 
No, puppy is writing a compiler and seeks advice from people in this room
 
I wok alone on Wide.
 
Xeo
Wok 'n' Woof
 
@TonyTheLion written (partially).
 
8:30 PM
lol
 
^^
hey, a man's proud of his work.
 
Xeo
Btw Puppy, did you send the proposals in anonymously as "DeadMG" or with your real name?
 
Mr. Dead M. G.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why?
 
8:31 PM
@Xeo Have to use real name. Already tried anonymous and got spanked.
 
Would have been beeter as "Dr. Dead, MD".
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Aw
 
@DeadMG Oh, so we know which proposals to look for.
 
well, you have about -2 seconds to submit any that you want.#
@EtiennedeMartel Indeed, it is unfortunately true.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG :(
 
8:32 PM
are these proposals public or something?
 
@TonyTheLion Yep.
 
Xeo
I should've started this shit sooner
 
they will go out in the pre-Bristol mailing.
@Xeo What even is the proposal in question?
 
oh right
I want to propose to Bjarne?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Basically, this
 
8:33 PM
lol, suckage.
 
Xeo
The basic idea was to lift an overload set into a function object
 
the purpose being?
 
can we please have fewer children commenting on questions
 
Julia Serano is a white woman. She is, therefore, thus, ergo, a racist. Natalie Reed is a white women, therefore, thusly, ergo, a racist.
 
lolwut
 
8:35 PM
Also, eh.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Finally being able to sensibly pass around functions
 
I assumed we were all adults
 
@user633658 What.
 
@Xeo oh
@user633658 you make silly assumptions
 
@user633658 The minimum is 13 years old, I think.
 
8:35 PM
I assume so
 
Xeo
Ever tried to pass around a function template? Or an overloaded function? Yeah...
 
What's the next best alternative going to be? []<typename... T>(T&&... t) -> decltype(auto) { return foo(std::forward<T>(t)...); }?
 
that looks like a lambda templated
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Yeah, that's what my first draft looked like.
 
I need to go off and learn lambda expressions
 
Xeo
8:36 PM
Except the decltype(auto)
 
@user633658 So, what's putting your knickers in a twist?
 
The easily-refactorable boilerplate is plain for everyone to see. What a shame.
 
Xeo
?
 
All the downvoting and closed questions by retarded kittens throwing up jello
 
checks user-this-new-number questions
 
8:38 PM
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Q: c++ std::exception ... may I have more please?

user633658I have browsed http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/error/exception & http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/io/basic_fstream looking for I/O exceptions I could possibly throw. I know I can create a custom exception class and there are plenty of websites offering example code, but I would like some gu...

 
Xeo
@LucDanton You mean #define LIFT(id) [](auto&&... v) -> decltype(auto){ return foo(std::forward<decltype(v)>(v)); }? :)
 
talking about this perhaps?
 
Yup.
 
@TonyTheLion yap
 
@user633658 My guess is your question sucks.
 
8:38 PM
@EtiennedMartele nap
 
> This question is ambiguous, vague, incomplete, overly broad, or rhetorical and cannot be reasonably answered in its current form.
 
Doesnt or it would not have a designated answer already
 
@user633658 you even got an answer you accepted, what's the problem?
 
@user633658 No. People answer to get rep. Many don't care if the question follows the rules or not.
 
@Xeo Oh that stuff.
 
Xeo
8:39 PM
@user633658 That's no indication of a questions suckage.
 
@Xeo I made the original proposal, y'know.
 
The turd-like-behavior
 
Xeo
@DeadMG You did? Where?
 
that closed the question and downvoted it
 
@user633658 your question is shit, so if you go read the FAQ on questions, then you may be able to improve it
 
8:40 PM
It's a poor question anyway.
 
@user633658 I would have downvoted it.
 
What's that ~4.46588770316Ï€ day thing?
 
Actually, I'm gonna do it right now.
 
Not to the person who needs an answer <=====
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Independent discovery, then. I had the idea for quite a while now.
 
@Xeo The thread there implies it was proposed before elsewhere- you might have seen it there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes, ~14. So what?
 
@Jueecy looks at the date
 
user142019
I'm going to make a battery cage for chicken in Minecraft.
 
@user633658 Too many people who need answers make too little effort in posing questions (or sometimes, too little effort in merely looking for answers). That's why many questions get downvoted and closed.
 
@TonyTheLion Ahaha, nice
 
Xeo
@DeadMG May have been around that time, but I think I saw the cpp-next thread quite some time later. Whatever, there's no proposal of that form yet, right?
 
Also looking at the edit history, I see an edit saying "removed vague, inflammatory rhetoric so the actual question is apparent"
If people thought that, I think it's obvious why it was downvoted.
 
@Xeo As far as I know, it was never an official proposal.
 
8:46 PM
Not to be the fun sponge but is that supposed to be funny (the date thingy) or today is a particular day for something?
 
Example of a question on exceptions that's a good fit for SO because it's framed in terms of a specific problem:
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Q: Exceptions inside exceptions in C++

RenanWhen working with C# or Java, I used to create exception classes that included other exceptions as class members. For instance: public class MyException : Exception { private MyException ex; private String message; public String what() { return this.message; } publi...

 
Xeo
@DeadMG Btw for Bristol, make sure they talk about relaxing automatic move restrictions. :P
 
if you want it, make a proposal for it.
 
@Jueecy Some people like to call today "Pi day" (they say it's 3.14).
Btw, puppy, it appears they are publishing the new proposals on isocpp.org before they publish the official mailing.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG I did, and both Richard and some other guy from the committee said they'd talk about it. I just wanted you as a reminder for them :D
 
8:47 PM
oic.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes, right. I've forgot. Strange though, Google usually put a nice doodle in the front page for the PI day
 
user142019
lol
 
I liked www.google.com/pacman
 
?
That is that?
 
8:52 PM
@melak47 Timestamp: 0.
@ThePhD A save file for a SimCity region.
 
Lol.
 
@EtiennedeMartel no players, and never played?
 
Looks like it wasn't touched at all.
 
@user633658 If people downvote your question, maybe you should ask yourself if it's good?
 
I guess everyone died a long long time ago? :p
 
18 mins ago, by user633658
can we please have fewer children commenting on questions
Yes, you don't care. I'm sure.
 
@melak47, 1970 is not that far you know
 
@user633658 Yeppers, that's the right attitude! We all love help vampires.
 
@DeadMG Wasn't there already talks to standardize some parts of MS' concurrency runtime?
Including the concurrent containers?
 
yes.
and I should sure hope so
but to be fair, Intel came out with something very similar, it's not really a Microsoft-specific thing.
 
8:55 PM
@user633658 Btw closing/downvoting is also a tool to help improve e.g. questions. A better question can have better answers.
 
@user633658 Please don't talk out of your ass.
 
trolls will be trolling
 
@TonyTheLion Trolls? I recall you as being one on a few questions I read
@TonyTheLion In particular, one was mine
 
@user633658 that's possible, maybe I was just trying to help
 
8:58 PM
Tony, don't tell me you tried helping that guy.
 
perhaps I did
I regret it now
 
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Q: error C2079: uses undefined class 'std::unique_ptr<_Ty>'

user633658This error has been searched but inconclusive or misunderstood solutions. I have a class with an inner class. The outer class has a template defined with a single parameter. The intent is to use the template parameter within an inner class member. template <typename T> class Foo{ ...

 
@TonyTheLion "Does not provide answer I seek" => "trolls".
 
@DeadMG oh this guy
offs
 
> hell no! This is not the answer I am seeking.
hahahahaha I remember this.
 
8:59 PM
oh gaws
 

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