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hai
@TonyTheLion You're an evil man.
@TonyTheLion Did he like it or did he cringe at the sight?
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@TonyTheLion Name please? So we won't troll him/her out. :P
on noes, did I enter just after someone made a sexual reference?
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@DomagojPandža I always pictured it as a passenger plane...
00:00
@DomagojPandža yes he liked it
@JerryCoffin mwuahahahahah :P
@Zoidberg That's the strangest motive
@JerryCoffin That's even more nasty. Well, if an edge of a cliff is involved with the bus version, pretty much no difference. ^^
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> I primarily program in C++ and Java. Recently I started learning Haskell. My current mathematical interests are group theory, graph theory, category theory, and type theory.
@sehe Sounds like Zoidberg to me :P
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@Code-Guru +1 for learning superior languages.
00:01
I also learned this person knows Haskell
Woo :)
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@Code-Guru -1 for programming in Java.
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Want.
Looks fluffy.
@DomagojPandža Good point.
00:03
grrr, I'm hungry :(
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Krupuk. <3
@Zoidberg I know what those are - in Chinese. Not sure what they're called in English.
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@Mysticial in Dutch it's called kroepoek and in English it's called krupuk.
@Mysticial Krupuk
or "prawn crackers", apparently
> xiapian (虾片 "prawn chips")
yep, that's it
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00:04
Me gusta.
now I want some :/
damn you, Zoidberg!
It's good shit.
One can hide the name daknok, but one cannot abdicate his position as the Lord of the Vacuum Cleaners. <3
what
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daknok is a good guy IMO.
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00:05
(And if you don't like it, you can suck his fucking cock.)
vaccum cleaner lord...because he sucks? I am missing something here
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(That sentence is from the intro of an album by Eminem.)
@melak47 It relates to an old incident with microphones, vacuum cleaners and sehe's Mumbo server.
@DomagojPandža "Mumble" perhaps?
Well, Mumble would be the real name of the project, but Mumbo is awesome.
00:06
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He probably doesn't even know that I'm daknok.
May 14 '12 at 9:45, by sehe
^ So true. @RadekdaknokSlupik @daknok @daknok_t @WTP'-- @class_daknok_t please get your MPD treated?
That's quite old hat
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@sehe what does mutable do there?
@Zoidberg It makes the lambda mutable :)
@Zoidberg It allows you to change your name on SO, but not your vibrant personality <3
00:07
@sehe Dammit, you're intimidating me with your impressive code.
@Zoidberg I got that much :p
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@sehe lolwot
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wuts le point
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Isn't it machine code?
man
all the BBC can talk about is the Pope.
00:08
@StackedCrooked It's basically imperative code with a bad sauce of lambda
@DeadMG I threw that shit on the ground?
user142019
The pope is an asshole and must be plonked.
@DomagojPandža lol
lol @ the last line: std::cout << "9:" << streak << "\n";
they're going to replace one idiot who does nothing but try to hold back society whilst listening to imaginary voices in his head, with another idiot who does exactly the same.
00:08
@Zoidberg No need:
The Vatican just deleted all the Pope's tweets. Because NO ONE denies reality like the Catholic Church.
the only real news would be "Church looks at date; realizes it isn't the year 1400."
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@pontifex is epic fail.
@sehe So many wins.
@Zoidberg I feel the love!
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I rate my life as 3/10 because not enough krupuk.
00:10
now I need to go find some snacks ._.
@DomagojPandža I bought this: (now to find the time to laugh about it)
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@melak47 check your belly button; usually it's full of crumbs 'n' shit.
@sehe Ahahaha, I want to read that, too! :D
@Zoidberg ...eh, ew D:
@DomagojPandža It's probably one of those books that defies gravity
00:12
@Zoidberg I figured out what I wanted to ask you about (re Haskell).
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Well ask it.
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I'm going to sleep within fifteen minutes because tomorrow I have to get up early because otherwise I miss my plane back to the glorious nation of The Netherlands.
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Close to krupuk. :3
I am also fucking off back to bed.
@DeadMG Sleeps are for pussies.
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00:13
s/ss/pp/
@Zoidberg I was trying to figure out how to create a data type for poker hands and compare them with (<=), compare, etc. I was making it much, much more complicated than it needed to be. Finally, I figured out I just needed derives (Ord).
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@Code-Guru lolnub
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Crap.
@Zoidberg Well, yah...and this data type is the most complicated one I've done so far. I was attempting to write my own implementation of compare.
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Oosterhout lacks a train station.
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00:15
Never write your own implementation of anything.
Oosterhout is not the nicest place
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It's probably already implemented by somebody else somewhere.
@Zoidberg never?
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@sehe yes it is. :P
@Zoidberg well..then we are all out of a job...
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00:16
@Code-Guru No, somebody still needs to find the libraries through Google!
@Zoidberg And build them.
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./configure && make && su -c "make install"
@Zoidberg where's libzoidlang then?
@Zoidberg lol, that's exactly what I want to spend 8 hours a day doing
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@melak47 yo momma's ass.
00:17
@Zoidberg Well, it turned out very well: github.com/codeguru42/projecteuler/blob/master/problem54.hs
I wrote my own show :: Card -> String =p
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@Code-Guru Cool.
err...show :: Hand -> String. I wanted something a little more descriptive than the default.
I should stop taking naps in the afternoon...I always end up staying so late if I do
@melak47 How long of a nap do you take?
@Code-Guru idk. I randomly pass out and then wake up :p
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00:20
@Code-Guru you have a potential resource leak.
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main = do
    handle <- openFile "input/poker.txt" ReadMode
    -- ...
    hClose handle
There are scientific studies that claim that a 30 min afternoon nap is good for productivity.
@Zoidberg do tell
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If something throws in between, the handle is never closed.
user142019
Use bracket (similar to try-with-resources in Java).
@Code-Guru I can corroborate that. For a one-person sample
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00:21
@Code-Guru So, since I slept 11 hours, I should be 22 times more productive?
Or do I have to nap on the couch for it to work?
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bracket (openFile "input/poker.txt" ReadMode) hClose $ \handle -> do
    contents <- hGetContents handle
    let rawCards = map words (lines contents)
    -- etc...
@Zoidberg Thanks for the tip. Not sure if I'll worry about it for this particular program, but I certainly will keep it in mind for future ones ;-)
$ \handle -> do
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ugh right
And really withFile not bracket
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00:23
@CatPlusPlus TIL
@Zoidberg So you are using a lambda for that last arg, right??
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@Code-Guru bracket :: IO a -> (a -> IO b) -> (a -> IO c) -> IO c
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Yes.
In execute-around, the basic function is low-level plumbing, resource developers are supposed to provide their own function that's implemented in terms of bracket/whatever
It's like RAII, you don't want to repeat this over and over again
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withFile name mode = bracket (openFile name mode) hClose nice :)
00:25
In C++ bracket is built into language and ctors and dtors are its arguments
(Conceptually)
@CatPlusPlus Did you look at my updated code? After talking with you about it, I realized how to remove the redundancy I originally had with RankOrd and RankInfo.
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Welp, time to dream.
which was basically what I was trying to ask about in the first place..
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See you tomorrow if the plain won't crash.
@Zoidberg gnite. We'll have to talk more Haskell another time ;-)
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00:27
There's also a functional programming room but it's less active.
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Functional Programming

Laughing at mutability!
hmmm...maybe I can join it ;-)
Of course, I'm already in three or four rooms at a time. What's one more?
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@CatPlusPlus shall I make you owner of FP room?
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You're FP superstar of SO. :P
00:30
after using gtest for a while, I'm beginning to play w/gmock now: a bit harder to learn than gtest, but it seems to be flexible to the extreme...
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Anyway, I'm off to bad spater.
The stories of Haskell's usefulness have been greatly exaggerated. <3
gtest's great for low-level components that don't depend on any other components
gmock's great for isolating middle-level/higher-level components
@Zoidberg No
gmock, global mocking. I find it hilarious it is used for isolating components from the bunch. Because isolation is usually a side-effect of global mocking of an individual or a particular component.
00:32
I'd mock your code too
throw that_shit_on_the_ground;
throw up; // har har har
return of_the_jedi;
try { 69 } catch(STD) { die(); }
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Q: g++ vs cmake performance optimization

Joe Coder GuyI only (barely) know g++. I want to achieve these performance differences for c++ http://blog.famzah.net/2010/07/01/cpp-vs-python-vs-perl-vs-php-performance-benchmark/, so I'm now moving to wt. -O3 is the highest performance optimization (from what I've read). Can cmake optimize for performanc...

^^ lol
This question was voluntarily removed by its author.
00:41
That was fast...
@Mysticial Would you stop teasing us with questions we cant even see!?!? :(
@Borgleader It wasn't deleted when I posted. That's why it one-boxed.
Yeah, didn't your boss say: "Don't be evil."? :P
I didnt know they didnt one box if they are deleted
00:42
> I haven't even figured out how to g++ wt with fastcgi yet
@DomagojPandža Thank you, Mark Twain.
@CatPlusPlus wtf... isnt fastcgi a php web technology?
It's not related to PHP at all
oh right nvm
If you read the title, you can see the OP's asking the wrong question
00:43
@Borgleader There's no such thing as "PHP web technology", man. :(
Since CMake isn't a compiler.
(Other than PHP has hilariously bad implementation of FastCGI gateway)
FastCGI is a protocol for interfacing interactive programs with a web server. FastCGI is a variation on the earlier Common Gateway Interface (CGI); FastCGI's main aim is to reduce the overhead associated with interfacing the web server and CGI programs, allowing a server to handle more web page requests at once. History CGI is a protocol for interfacing external applications to web servers. CGI applications run in separate processes, which are created at the start of each request and torn down at the end. This "one new process per request" model makes CGI programs very simple to impl...
@DomagojPandža I thought it was a php module for apache
I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I think about PHP's FastCGI
I had to run vBulletin instance
00:45
@CatPlusPlus When in doubt, mock.
Nightmares
@Code-Guru You're welcome, m'lord!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Wasps. Lots of them. And Cat Plus Plus is tearing PHP a new one, again. <3
00:47
I have better things to do
@DomagojPandža Don't "m'lord" me...I work for a living.
Everytime someone says (s)he works for a living, I have a huge desire to say: "Nice to hear you're still shaking dat ass."

But that's just offensive.
@DomagojPandža Whatever it takes ;-)
That's the spirit! Where did everyone go? It's only 1:52 am! :$
Sorry. Busy :)
@DomagojPandža C++ needs a finally keyword after all
01:00
Considering C++'s development modus operandi, they'll just overload an existing keyword. :D
@Code-Guru CGI - "We have to support this internet thingy". "Yeah, but how, our programmers only understand interpreted text - they all think bash scripts are computer programs". "Don't worry - as long as we're in first with some shitty, inefficent RFC, everyone will be forced to follow on - VHS syndrome". "OK, we'll rasie and tear down a complete process for everything - even our developers should be able to handle that!"
Request For Comments always cracks me up. Brilliant naming.
@Rapptz is gonna hate me
なんで?
dont you hate memes?
01:06
yes but I tend to suck it up and not dwell on it
Why is everyone talking about what I hate today :(
"Danny you hate everything" I heard this like twice
I think I may be a downer.
TIL your name is Danny.
Yup
@DomagojPandža catch(default)
@sehe He has no last name.
That LINQ thing I forked by accident looks nice
01:17
@EtiennedeMartel His last name is California... of course >.> (har har obscure reference)
I have no personal information on me on the internet.
:P
@Rapptz I have all sorts of personal information on the internet. But it's hard to find if all you know is my gaming avatars.
I've always hidden it
used to be a google search for "mooingduck" would return all my stuff, but now there's way too many other people using my name :/
01:20
A search for Rapptz wouldn't get you much I don't think.
^ Google's account policies really are quite nice
@sehe ooh.
oh ffs, one of my mooingduck profiles says "Changed the public display name from REALNAME to Mooing Duck" :/
@Rapptz I did change it myself :)
Ah.
@MooingDuck lol
01:21
@sehe Better than Facebook, that's for sure. HTTPS / SSL all the way. Facebook is butt naked, you can intercept everything on unprotected wifi networks. Fortunately, I use that piece of shit just for the lulz.
Tow factor, too. And application specific passwords. I'm using both
I don't have a facebook.
LinkedIn?
nope.
wait, I typed my full real name into SO chat once? What was I thinking?
01:22
I have to use Facebook so that my friends don't declare me dead, since I rarely leave my house.
It's a narrow route, office - house. Little else.
If people wanted to contact me they could use steam/gmail
@MooingDuck Probably when you were considering names for that star? Or when you shared that picture of you and your fiance
@sehe I let some highschool kid interview me for a school project :/
@MooingDuck Why are you so worried about that?
@DomagojPandža I'm not sure.
01:25
Unless your name is uncommon then there isn't much to be gained by knowing your real name.
You're pretty professional all around, nobody could use anything here against you in a potential job interview.
And well, even sex offenders can do better than us lowly software engineers.
Oh right I forgot people are anal about those things these days.
People trying to snoop your internet activity, lol
@Rapptz both first and last name are uncommon. Togeather....
@EtiennedeMartel ooh I saw this earlier today. I didn't even know they were making another one.
01:27
Luckily, I willingly stand behind every one of my statements. If someone doesn't want to work with me based on something I said in the past, chances are I don't want to work with him either. Especially now that I know he's an ugly version of Snoopie.
@EtiennedeMartel Ezio meets Jack Sparrow?
@MooingDuck :(
@Rapptz Moonneeyyyyyy
@EtiennedeMartel Looks like Connor.
Oh god.
Looks like Ubi's finally fully selling out.
01:27
@DomagojPandža It isnt afaik
@ThePhD finally?
Please tell me about the rock you live under.
They're being obvious about it.
Also, I expected something like that. I knew they invested way too much into the naval portions of the ACIII game and they want to capitalize on it now.
They always were.
They need to drop the numbering IMO
After 3 it becomes a bit weird
01:28
Weren't you tipped off by Brotherhood and Revelations?
@Rapptz Final Fantasy~
Especially Final Fantasy
inb4 assassins creed becomes like final fantasy
@EtiennedeMartel I was, but you could still argue they were at least somewhat trying with the story.
Can you imagine if every IP stuck with just a numbering system?
01:29
Assassin's Creed 15: Templars in SPACE
I think I even said to someone after first getting onboard a ship in ACIII that they will milk this for all it is worth. And here we go, a fullblown naval Assassin's Creed, ready to recycle.
@Borgleader That would be awesome.
Now we just need one about terrorists and planes and obligatory Washington/Iraq War militaryfap.
I think Final Fantasy is the only one that gets away with it
Assassin's Creed 4: Modern Warfare
but if I saw a game today with a number bigger than 3 it'd be pretty weird. i.e. Call of Duty 10 etc
01:30
If I release a major game,
I'm slapping IXI on it.
@ThePhD I think the combat style of Assassin's Creed really doesn't work with ranged weapons such as guns. In ACIII, the ranged weaponry was just a small tactical advantage designed to get you closer to the enemy.
Just to fuck people's mind's up.
@Rapptz That's why no more warcraft games :P
There's meaningful sequels and there's milking the franchise
And after all that time invested into developing the combat & animation system, they'll be pretty unwilling to venture beyond 1910.
01:31
The plot in AC is not very good so it's not the former
@CatPlusPlus Well, the whole premise is retarded, but it's the historical aspect that draws most of us in. That superior species that came before is a bit retarded and doesn't follow.
@DomagojPandža Not that retarded.
I don't know I've stopped at AC2
I haven't really played through AC3 at all.
So I have no idea what's going on anymore.
Anyway, AC's highlight for me has always been that "what the fuck" bit at the end of AC2.
It made me fully erect.
01:33
You should check that out
The plot of AC1 was so good I remember templars, assassins, some mcguffin, a machine and some war
Meow
Is that his name?
Desmond?
Yes that's his name
I liked kicking the Pope's ass in hand to hand combat. And also, how they portrayed the Church as the ultimate bad guys. That made me fully erect.
Yeah that was WTF. I still don't know what exactly happened.
01:34
*** ---------------------> I haven't played AC3 yet so please no spoilers <--------------------- ***
@ThePhD No, not that.
@DomagojPandža You might want to check out LPs then
@Borgleader Everyone dies.
I saw one that expands on the historical things
@Borgleader Lots of glitches. Ubisoft says "It's not a bug, it's a feature"
01:34
@Borgleader There's a lot of rooftops
etc
I meant the part where that alien lady directly talks to the camera and ends with "Desmond".
That was interesting, but I didn't see it go anywhere.
There's really aliens in this game
Really honestly
You're telling me
@EtiennedeMartel And then the Mass Effect 3 ending follows in ACIII.
01:35
There's aliens
@CatPlusPlus Precursors, actually. Pretty standard for a sci-fi setting.
I need to see this ending since I'll probably never force myself to play AC2 again
Right
So a ripoff of SG-1 :v:
I miss SG: Atlantis and Rodney.
@DomagojPandža I miss rodney because a) hes funny b) he's canadian
01:38
Why does the alien have italian accent
@CatPlusPlus Well, Italians are the closest thing we have to aliens on Earth.
@CatPlusPlus Why do they speak modern English?
@CatPlusPlus Because you cant write italien without alien :P
It's the Animus.
@EtiennedeMartel Silly, that's just the universal translator they implanted in your brain when you were born.
01:39
Seriously: everything in AC can be handwaved with "because of the Animus".
AC games take place in a simulation.
As such, the games are internally consistent.
No plot holes. At least not there.
5 mins ago, by Rapptz
@Borgleader Lots of glitches. Ubisoft says "It's not a bug, it's a feature"
^
Yeah, AC3 is a different story.
Well, every bug in the game can be sold as a bug of the Animus.
Yep.
That's actually awesome.
01:41
Hm.
So I finally got around to using POINT clamp.
It doesn't change the shading at all.
You know, in Revelations, how the parts where you control Altair are looking better than in AC1?
hello guys
They explain, in game, that it's because the Animus 2.0 is better than the Animus 1.0.
Is AC4 next gen?
AC4 will probably still be current gen, it's the continuation of the ACIII engine (because of the naval simulation software)
01:42
Damn... I was hoping to see a next gen AC with possibly the engine of Watch Dogs :)
Although, even though Ubi states that Watch Dogs is not using the ACIII engine, it is way too close.
That would look fantastic
The river part with the ship (Watch Dogs) s most definitely a derivation of ACIII's naval stuff.
@DomagojPandža Knowing how they work, their "entirely new engine" probably started off as a branch of Blacksmith.
The biggest mistake "next gen" is making is due to grid. They are trying to capitalize the same games on both PS4 and the PS3.
01:45
they dont have a choice
Leaving the gamer to ask the question "Why the fuck do I need a PS4, then?"
not enough people are on the new consoles, the games wouldnt generate enough revenue
That will be exactly the initial downfall of the PS4. You need games to sell the crap.
and the new xbox
they'll have the same problem, the both of them
in other news, i can't type for shit
Anyway, the two games I'm waiting for the most right now are PC exclusives.
PC GAMING!
RAWR
01:47
Which ones?
I just realized I'm not waiting for anything. There's nothing. Mass Effect 4, I can't even get a glimpse of a hardon.
Oh AC combat system how I've not missed that
@Borgleader Both have the same acronym: SC.
Oh, yeah, the next iteration of StarCraft
@EtiennedeMartel Hots and... SimCity
01:48
SimCity seems fun, lol. I can't believe I said that.
@DomagojPandža Made in Montreal! So it'll probably be good.
TR got some good reviews :) and it was partially made in MTL
now I have to decide on which platform to get it
@EtiennedeMartel Have you been considering getting back in the game industry?
Today, there was this live stream of people playing the new SimCity. Their server crashed in the middle of the game, kicking the guy out.
Or do you like it at Ludia way too much? :D
01:49
It came back on quickly, though. But still.
@DomagojPandža I'm already in the games industry.
He makes fun casual social games!
I make tools that help make fun casual social games.
tomato tomato
Still not very exciting
@EtiennedeMartel That actually sounds fun. :D
01:50
Hey, I'm not in the target audience.
@Rapptz He gets free beer on fridays. Can't blame him.
Come to think of it, pretty much nobody at Ludia is in that audience.
Do you guys like what you do though? I've always wondered this
Borgleader, you still a student or also part of the working crowd? :D
I'm still a student, almost done though. I interned at Eidos MTL last summer (I worked on Tomb Raider MP)
01:51
@Rapptz Quite a lot, yeah.
Ah. I see.
@Borgleader Ah, that's how you know Eric, right?
The AI guy.
Actually no (he was on vacation when i worked there), I met him before when I visited the company (before I interned) and then he came to the lounge. And on wednesday he made a presentation in one of my classes.
Just got my beard shaved for charity. Video coming later.
good guy notch
I was quite sad to find out his wife dumped him.
01:58
@Rapptz If I manage to learn Korean. I'm gonna rewatch the hell out of that series and listen to every word they say.

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