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11:00 AM
is this good for a low traffic website
 
I can bet that my opinion about donuts will be the most significant one you will hear. chirp-chirp
 
that is only receiving very less traffic from search engines
if we do SEO we can have better sales right?
 
If you make me CEO too.
Also, we are programmers, not marketeers.
 
im also a programmer
i have coded it
 
11:04 AM
concern of a programmer in the work he has done :)
 
Xeo
gaaaah
 
@daknøk Thanks
 
Xeo
Boost is frying my brain with its complicated build stuff x_x
 
Building C++ sucks.
The C++ ecosystem sucks.
It should have a de-facto package index and documentation tools and build system.
Like Python and Haskell.
 
Xeo
11:12 AM
this is definitly not fun
crap, gotta go for now. Maybe it'll solve itself while I'm away... /sigh
 
11:31 AM
@BartekBanachewicz mmm. I'd rather not use tools (handroll them at every turn) than use half-baked compromise tools that someone else made: transparency is key there: you need to know exactly what does (not) get done.
@BartekBanachewicz Anyways: if you think you know a viable subset that you can make work... there is a huge market opportunity for that since about 20 years now
 
I need a concurrent priority queue. Is there something I can concoct with other concurrent collections, or should I just stick to a regular priority queue with locks?
Oh, nevermind, there's a concurrent priority queue implementation here.
 
@sehe ... for C# developers. Here comes the [irony].
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nope. That has been filled. Why do you think there is no market for C++? This is what cpprefactory, libclang, pvs-studio and many others chase. The first who gets it right - R# potential, that is - sits on a gold mine IYAM
 
@sehe It would require hell of a knowledge, I am afraid. I think I won't be able to participate for the next few years -.-
 
@sehe Haha, good luck.
 
11:46 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pessimist. I'm not aiming for the gold. I was putting things into perspective:
58 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
But @sehe, it's not that they can't! They just don't want to, to push C# into the market. Okey, c# is funky sometimes, but it isn't near half as beautiful as C++ is. Then loads of Xna guys spawn and claim they "code" their games -.-
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hi, btw. Missed you yesterday :) Luc was here, and no robot. Doesn't happen often
 
Can const be a template parameter?
 
No.
 
Overloading simple accessor methods for const makes my code wet. :(
 
enum { konst, notkonst };
foo<konst>
foo<notkonst>
 
@sehe Was... busy.
 
11:48 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's ok! Just noting. Letting you know I noticed :)
 
Also, lol at the notion of C# not being half as beautiful as C++.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like?
 
@Nils write a property template class.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love C#. It's just not the same thing. By a few unverses
 
There's a lot of things C# isn't half as good at as C++, but beautiful is not one of them.
 
11:49 AM
property<int> foo;
 
@daknøk Troll on
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's like comparing evening dress to bikini on a hot model ;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There are definitely (a lot) fewer things I hate about C# than things about C++
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't follow.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mmmm. That's undecided. Depending on the dress and model (and my mood) I would likely prefer the dress
 
11:50 AM
(Also, I wasn't the one that made the comparison, I just laughed at it)
 
Have at it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes C++ is beautiful because it doesn't need to mask anything. Now, the dress can be beautiful, but the (nearly) uncovered body can be even more. Depends, of course.
See? I'm not even saying C# sucks! (proud_of_himself)
 
Hi, I'm working on C++ and using boost:regex
i have one query
 
@BSalunke That is possible.
 
like we gave "grep" command and there is option -v i.e. "grep -v"
 
11:53 AM
@sehe @Robot I am still wondering if I should really learn and code in C#. (that being aside from C++)
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, C++ is ugly because it needs to mask lots of things, especially those from C.
 
"grep -v " this command filters all string except that we have mentioned after -v option. Same as like this i have to use boost::regex()
any idea for that
 
@BSalunke there's std::regex in C++11, btw.
 
ya it is..
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's lower level than C#, yet it's readable and... well...
 
11:56 AM
lol, readable.
 
@BSalunke just program it. Requires a ! somewhere in the code. Or an else :)
@BartekBanachewicz Readable is a property of some codebases, not the language
 
the code is at the following line: stackoverflow.com/questions/12049389/…
 
Thank you for linking to your question! Kindly receive my downvote!
 
And low-level is irrelevant, unless you're trying to say the woman is x86 and the languages are just clothing. In that case, C++ is a lot like a bum's garb: a bunch of stuff that came together and is great at keeping you warm.
 
@Da
@daknøk ya, but can u provide me the solution
 
12:00 PM
Uhm I am not even going to take the effort.
 
may i know why?
or can you just tell me does boost::regex() supports that kind of any feature(i.e. grep -v)?
 
because your question sucks
it haz downvotez
 
"pLease check now, it compilable"
 
@Bartek yes, sorry for the mistakes, now its working fine
so can any one tell me boost::regex() usage?
 
documentation.
 
12:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yes, i went through it, but i did not got any pointer from there
 
Here's few: int *a, *b, *c, *d;
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@CatPlusPlus old.
 
@BSalunke by the looks of it, you have managed to piss people off in here, you are not going to get much out of them now
 
@BSalunke can u spell
If you want reliable, high quality answers quickly, use SO. If you want to gamble and maybe get a useful answer, maybe get a good answer, and maybe waste your time, feel free to ask questions here :)
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Pinned a new one ^ couldn't seem to re-pin the old one...
 
@sehe not bold enough.
 
12:18 PM
@sehe You can't twice, but others can pin previously pinned ones.
 
@daknøk I don't like the shoutiness. It'll work.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aha. That explains.
 
@thecoshman I'm not managing for that u think. I really had that query. Leave that question, but what about boost::regex() support ?
 
@sehe Oh well. ^
 
@BSalunke what? This is a lounge, a place to relax and chat with friends. This is not a help desk
 
@thecoshman ohhh...thanks for remembering me..
 
12:23 PM
Lol, i really laughed on 9gag's "how to personalize an android". Change wallpaper n' shit, yo!
 
@BSalunke I don't remember you... have you been giving grief here before?
 
@thecoshman reminding, he meant. It's also on the starboard, you know. Twice, I think
 
I think he meant the other meaning of "remember"
 
@BartekBanachewicz just like I mean the other meaning of 'giving a fuck' :P
 
@sehe Why did you unpin it?
 
12:29 PM
xD. I am so bored right now it was like the most funny post today.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was gonna ask the same. I didn't
Tried to pin it now, but it says: "You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator"
 
We should have a building with a big lounge and a logo on the front side.
And sit there all day.
Teleworking.
 
@sehe That's a generic misleading message. You can't pin twice.
 
@dak too much effort
 
I pay everything.
 
12:33 PM
ok then
 
@daknøk I'm in
 
@All, sorry guys... I asked at wrong place...bye..
 
where will that building be located?
 
@joschua011 In the Netherlands, obviously.
Best country ever.
Amsterdam.
I will fix free weed and hookers.
 
12:38 PM
@daknøk Flight fees included?
 
ok..not to far from here ^^
 
@BartekBanachewicz yep.
 
@daknøk I'm in.
 
Xeo
yay, back from the dentist and right back to grinding my teeth at bjam...
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@daknøk oh building! I some how read that as lounge or something (don't ask, I don't know)
 
sbi
12:44 PM
All the spammers in the world may only make $200 million a year, while they cost us $20 billion: theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/08/…
 
@Xeo Why are you messing with bjam?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm trying to build boost for static runtime link. :( When I bootstrapped it, I only got it for dynamic runtime link
 
@sbi I wonder who you just saw that from :P
 
sbi
@thecoshman It came by on twitter a while ago.
 
Economics of spam. Spam industry: $200M global annual revenue. Cost to society of dealing with the damage: $20Bn. Auto theft: $8-12Bn.
Whoops, forgot the #spam link: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/08/all-the-spammers-in-the-world-may-only-make-200-million-a-year/260814/
 
sbi
12:47 PM
Right, that's the one.
 
lol spammer
 
@sbi he's been tweeting a good tweet recently IMO
 
tomcat is surprisingly robust
 
@thecoshman Stross is cool.
 
I was expecting full crash by now
 
sbi
12:49 PM
tomcat is surprisingly robust
Stross is cool.
I was expecting full crash by now
 
but 10 download requests of 700 MB each, and it keeps on ticking
 
sbi
LOL!
 
@sbi What's so funny about it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes German humour?
 
sbi
> Apple is suing over alleged copyright infringement of its Auto-Correct feature. Apple has said 'We'll see those aunts in court' — Chris Burns
 
12:50 PM
@thecoshman Must be.
@sbi :)
 
@sbi that took me shamefully long :(
 
sbi
@thecoshman Not that anyone here was expecting anything else from you... :)
 
How sweet, a day out with dear old auntie
 
@sbi at least I worked it out all on my own, like a big boy :D
 
@thecoshman a building with a big lounge
A real-life lounge.
 
12:52 PM
@daknøk yeah, took me a while to remember what words mean :P
@daknøk oh sexy
 
with blackjack and hookers
 
sbi
Damn, sometimes that guy is really witty and funny. I am reading through his backlog. Too bad some of them are so bad, so far I couldn't bring myself to enduring him in my timeline.
 
@daknøk That's an urban myth.
 
@daknøk As opposed to virtual? Have we really reached the point where we have to explicitly state that it is a "real-life" lounge?
 
@Neil Lounge<C++> is a pure virtual lounge.
 
12:53 PM
well... technically this is a real lounge
 
sbi
> I got arrested for insurance fraud. I'd taken out a life insurance, even though I don't have a life. — Chris Burns
 
it exists as much as we do
 
Xeo
so, @R.MartinhoFernandes, I take it you can't help me with bjam? :(
 
@thecoshman How philosophical.
 
@daknøk Yes, but at least up until a few years ago, had I been talking about a lounge, it is assumed to be a "real" lounge, not a virtual one
 
12:53 PM
@Xeo Thankfully, no.
:P
 
Xeo
D:
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes your welcome :D
 
Xeo
@thecoshman *you're
 
Should I expect in 20 years time, the new generation saying, "Wait wait.. *real* sex or virtual?"
 
<insert oatmeal comic>
 
sbi
12:54 PM
> I'm reading a book about a world without gravity. I just can't put it down. — Chris Burns
 
@thecoshman At least it is not a rational lounge.
 
@Xeo If I was saying that he is welcome, then yes. However, in this case I am saying that his welcome is colon capital letter d
 
sbi
Hahaha! NSFW
 
@Neil Nah. No question. Just assumption: virtual of course.
 
@sbi how NSFW? to what extreme I should say
 
sbi
12:56 PM
@thecoshman Just text.
 
@sbi NSFW Text! What is the world coming to!?
 
@sbi oh that's twisted :S
 
@sbi Yeah I just spotted that one too
But can text really be nsfw ?
 
@kbok <insert ascii nude art here>
 
sbi
@Neil Well, Since I don't know the conditions you're working under, I'm rather on the safe side with you. You still can click on the link, after all.
 
12:58 PM
@Neil Is ascii art text ?
 
@kbok I'd have to ask myself what it is if it isn't text.
 
@Neil It's a bunch of characters
 
@kbok Is "a bunch of characters" text?
 
@Neil I don't think so
 
@kbok Hmm, I have to disagree
What, in your opinion, is text?
 
1:01 PM
@sbi I thought the background on that page was pretty unSFW
 
Because that's how PHP rolls: Like a square wheel. — Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 11 hours ago
 
@Neil It's generally something made out of words
 
@Neil is perl text?
 
@kbok So if I open a text file, there must be words in it?
 
sbi
@kbok Decide for yourself: relatively SFW
 
1:02 PM
@thecoshman Perl is an abstract concept. Did you mean perl script?
 
@Neil Well, a text file does not necessarily contains text. It's just a language abuse really
 
@sbi lol, filtered. should have looked at the Earl first :P
 
> Your request was categorized by SmartFilter as 'Pornography'.
@sbi Turns out it's not.
 
sbi
You are probably being filtered due to the URL.
 
> The words of a speech appearing in print.
^ @Neil
 
1:04 PM
@kbok I'm violating some rule when I don't write words in a text file? I don't think that's what text file implies
 
sbi
Mhmm. Despite its being pure ASCII, I don't think I should post this here.
 
@sbi Post the brain-fuck program that can produce that ascii
 
@Neil Hum no, it's just that I don't think "text file" means "a file which contains text"
 
sbi
@Neil Ha, I just cut off a few lines at the top:
                                     `-,/   ,'( \(   / ,'
  Yb,     ________                     /   / ,' /'  /  (
   Y8baadP""""""""Yba,_             .-'  ,' _|-'  ,'   |
aaadP"'             `""Yb,       .-'  _.'--'  _.-'     (
`Y8(                    `"Yb, ,-' _.-(___..--'\ (      \
  `Y,                      "/' ,-'    ,'       )/       )
    Y,  (O)                `--"a,  _-'       ,-'        )
    `Y,                        "Y-'       ,-'          /dbaa,,____,aa,_
     `Y,       ,aa            ,'        ,'         _,-'     ``""""''  "Y,
The left-most character at the line immediately above is an @, BTW. :)
 
> plain text is the contents of an ordinary sequential file readable as textual material without much processing
 
1:07 PM
@kbok So by your own definition, text is not something "with words" in it
 
Is this a woman on a horse ? I'm not sure I want to expand that
 
Definition is a bit broader
He cut off the good part, don't worry
 
> In computing, plain text is the contents of an ordinary sequential file readable as textual material without much processing
 
sbi
@kbok I said I cut off the offending parts.
 
^ "In computing" is the key part here I think
 
sbi
1:07 PM
This I like, too.
 
@kbok You added that, though
Besides, you're only proving my point
 
@Mysticial ^^
 
@Neil I just copied the wrong part in the first place. It's from wikipedia.
 
If you open a text book, you'll find pictures, diagrams, characters which do not make up words.
You're being way too literal with that definition
text is a broader term
 
I'm referring to the dictionnary
Also, the definitions of "text file" and "text book" does not imply that what they contain is necessarily text and only text, it's only a shortcut
Just like a photo album can also contain text
 
1:16 PM
Wanna see really bad “C++”?
 
oh crap, i wanted to test yet another idea with constexpr new. screw that i guess
 
@KonradRudolph lol, that's so dumb
 
@kbok In fact, nobody says a photo album contains only photos
So why would you insist text contains only words?
 
@kbok void* pre_allocated_memory = malloc(GRID_WIDTH * GRID_HEIGHT * sizeof(pixel)); THAT's so dumb
 
sbi
> Deep ASCII is a full length conversion of the classic porno film Deep Throat, which amounts to 55 minutes of pure mute ascii porn. This genre was selected for it's dominating close-ups, very convenient for resolutions ASCII can support. — probably NSFW (needs Java)
 
1:22 PM
Hum, yeah, probably.
 
hey guys
What do you think of the thinkquest projects?
 
To all you whipper snappers, I can vouch for this
 
sbi
@kbok It's all ASCII, though, and the first few minutes give an impression of what to expect without revealing anything to your cow-workers snooping at your monitor.
 
@sbi downloading java.
 
@Neil That's not the same. "text" is not a support. You're saying that a text file should contain text, and therefore that anything you can put in a text file is text. I say that you can put pretty much anything in a photo album (prints, drawings, etc.) but that doesn't change what a photo is.
 
1:24 PM
@sbi You post that, on the day that there’s a new Java 7 exploit for Windows? Suspicious …
3
 
@thecoshman This article sucks
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not sure this would be worth to install Java.
@KonradRudolph You know, I just thought exactly the same.
 
@sbi I am sure it won't, but I am so bored I will accept anything. Even ascii pr0n.
 
@kbok In very specific circumstances is text what you claim it to be
 
@kbok how so?
 
1:26 PM
@ManofOneWay sorry I wasn't there. I had to interview a candidate. Hope you enjoyed the tour though :)
 
Most of the time, it's not, not even according to your definition you found in wikipedia
 
gosh, the resolution is terrible
 
@BartekBanachewicz (.(.)
 
Xeo
Anyone here got an idea on how to use bjam?
 
@Xeo eerm... build boost with it?
 
1:27 PM
@Xeo with some read?
 
@thecoshman I distinctly remember the feeling when I told my interviewers about the algorithms I studied at my university only for my interviewers to look at each other as if to say, "Uh, what are those?"
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Right, now tell me how :/
I can't seem to figure out how that thing works
 
I was indeed surprised to find out that a very small percentage of those algorithms served me in the end
 
@Xeo follow the recipe at Boost. that's what i did some years ago. it worked.
 
there's a boost_build.bat IIRC
 
1:30 PM
@Neil that last part is by far the most painful one to work with.
 
@Neil Because the definition in wikipedia specifically refers to text in computing, that is, as a description of the contentx of a file.
 
can anyone please tell me what is this language? : "Â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ ïîëîæåíèÿìè ïóíêòîâ" . Thanks
 
Complexity can raise so fast you wouldn't believe. Even simple things are at least a little bi complex, and they multiply against each other, and so with enough 'simple' things, you soon have the mother of all brain fucks
 
@thecoshman Because what he says is nothing new, and if you've actually been surprised by these points then your training has not been complete
 
@Mr.Anubis Mojibake.
 
1:32 PM
@Mr.Anubis put it on google translate and hit play XD
 
@kbok what training? one of the biggest down falls of uni work is that you are not working on 20 year old code
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil I tried , google detects it as russian Oo
@ecatmur That msg comes from bank , I don't think they play with their customer
 
@Mr.Anubis Like I said.
 
@thecoshman true true, but would you be surprised when hired in a company that has been selling a software since 20 years that some parts of the code are 20 years old and that you weren't going to write brand new code in a separate application ?
 
1:34 PM
I think a really good software dev course would have a final year project that each year has more work done it, more features are added, but you only get like a month to be given the code, and for the entire class to organise them selves into a team to add new features (thinking of a team of about 20 to 30 students)
 
Training apart, those points are things that should have been made obvious at the interview stage.
 
@ecatmur aah , thanks a lot :)
 
sbi
@kbok I am not sure I would classify exactly those five surprises the top ones, but I found all the points in that article classic, but wrong, believes of junior devs coming from university.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman 20-30 is way too much
 
@thecoshman I thought about that, and I think it's a good idea, but then I thought about the quality of a code touched by 300+ devs in a few years :)
 
1:35 PM
@kbok oh sure, but the amount of 'new' stuff is amazingly little, even new things are more like adaptions
@Xeo why so? it's more about getting the students to work as a team, the raw coding part of it is meaningless
 
@thecoshman True, most complexity comes from lazy programmers
 
@sbi Sure. They are all false ideas some people make. But that's hardly the top surprises, and tbh I think a student who reads blogs online already knows that stuff.
 
@Neil it's not so much lazy
 
@thecoshman code developed by a new generation of students each year... :))))
 
Xeo
@thecoshman getting them to work as a team means having a manageable team size
 
sbi
1:37 PM
@kbok "a student who reads blogs online already knows that stuff" — but we were talking about the other 98% of the students...
 
@LuchianGrigore exactly. Each year, a little bit more work is done on this project, each year new ideas are used. only the lecturers can provide any high-level idea about what is being done
 
@sbi Fair enough :)
 
@kbok Intercourse also means "having a discussion", but you wouldn't tell someone you were having intercourse with your wife on the phone because of how that might sound. Likewise, "text" under very specific circumstances means what you say it is, but that's not its primary and most well-known meaning
 
@Xeo one of the first things they will have to learn, is that few of them will actually touch the code
 
@Neil Are you trying to distract me with sex ? :)
 
sbi
1:39 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: If it's not worth writing a SO question, you waste our time. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@thecoshman I look at code I wrote months ago and think WTF. I look at production code written by some professional programmers and think WTF. If I saw a full application developed completely by students, I'd think... W. T. FFFFFFUUUUUUUU.
 
@LuchianGrigore part of the challange
 
@Neil If we're talking about the most well-known meaning, and not the strict definition, then there's no way to settle down what is true. Let's just agree to disagree.
 
@LuchianGrigore There're students and there're students.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "There're" hurts :(
 
1:41 PM
I think professors offer a big enough challenge with crap code you have to weed out. There's no need to make it even harder.
 
@LuchianGrigore it's not about the code :P
 
@thecoshman if you try to say it aloud, certainly. In writing, tho?
 
sbi
@Neil I have actually been driven through Intercourse. A boring place, except for the Amish.
 
C++ courses with char* and using namespace std; and all that
 
@LuchianGrigore or (actual) int& x = *new int(5);
 
1:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz both :P
 
Oh God!
 
@kbok I don't think I can convince you or vice versa, so fine. Agree to disagree then.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz There's limits, even in plural.
 
Xeo
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff......
Having my system locale set to "Japan" was the cause for the error -.-
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@BartekBanachewicz That's illegal
 
Xeo
1:43 PM
@kbok It's not.
 
sbi
@kbok What? Why?
 
@sbi I want to live in Hell, Michigan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan if for no other reason than to say I'm in hell.
 
Xeo
Screw you, bjam
 
Oh, sorry, looked too fast
 
1:44 PM
looked to fast
:D
 
@BartekBanachewicz I made a mistake, but I'd like to point out that the fact that something compiles in gcc must be the single worst argument for its validity.
 
@kbok You know, that's the quickest way to get a coded example here? All you have to do is say, "That syntax isn't right!" and bam! You got yourself a coded example.
 
sbi
@Neil I must have driven by that one 20 years ago. Don't remember it, though.
 
@kbok Oh, of course.
 
@sbi I've never been there myself, but I bet they have a bit of fun with the name
 
sbi
@Neil Like that town called Boring, in OR, I think.
 
@LuchianGrigore It's funny only if you're romanian
 
Today is a sad sad day: I was right
I was right when I observed that European politicians were not intrinsically less ignorant than US congressmen. I was right when I observed that European politics seems to be in a hurry to copy the level of idiocy seen in America. I correctly predicted that we would soon see the same media-crazed attention junkies crawling the news...
Today it appears that a medium amount of election-nervosity has evoked the Dutch Akin:
 
@kbok :)
 
@sehe Yeah, we've got christians in Europe too
 
1:49 PM
@sehe "leader of the small Christian fundamentalist " enough of that bullsh*t allready
 
Sadly, another arm-chair statistician that forgets he can't just base theories on his own privately-enacted sample-base only. RAAAGE
Let's see: 3 daughters, 1970-2012, cases of publicly announced abortion: 0
See, raping hasn't made them pregnan! 100% of the time. Scientific proof.
 
Yeah. And sadness.
 
Apparently the numbers come from some countries where it's possible to ask, for statistical reasons, the reason for an abortion.
 
Also: heard a good interview with Geert Wilders on the radio this morning. This guy is good!!! I mean, I despise his politics, but he is a brilliant troll politician and debater.
 
sbi
1:54 PM
@sehe The difference is that he'll be laughed at by most dumbheads in NL, and yelled at for stupidity by those who've got a brain. That's very different in the Bible Belt.
 
sorry, just so I am clear, which way are angry here?
 
What will happen when the electorate gets dumbed down further and further, welfare extinguishes the need for critical thought. The smartasses win. They corrupt the power and kill the soul of the nation. Ok. Perhaps I'm being overly negative. But still...
@thecoshman Please read for yourself...
 
@sehe I did, I just can't work out exactly what you are angry about, mixed signals
 
@thecoshman everything. That's the point.
 
@thecoshman How so? I'm not sending them. I'm mad that I was so right.
 
1:56 PM
@sehe Did you read Atlas Shrugged?
 
@sehe ¬_¬ you are mad that you are right?
 
@thecoshman he was predicting disaster
 
sbi
@thecoshman That rhymes quite nicely, but it makes very little sense.
 
@sbi so it does, and I erm... shut up :P
 
@sbi Not so sure. We have our own Bible Belt. I'm guessing this is a very well-chosen tactic towards our 12 sept elections. You know: any publicity is good publicity for them 'niche' parties: thou shalt create a visible profile! Your electorate will vote for you regardless of what you shout, as long as you are loud enough
@sbi lulz
 
1:58 PM
Is there a way to center something in a table cell that isn't text in css?
 
@Neil yes
 
@thecoshman Without adding a wrapper, I mean
 
@Neil ... you can use align:centre on a few things... failing that maybe you can use those mad ass before and after things to add a wrapper though css
 

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