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7:01 AM
I wish I had some sort of floating computer you could simply summon at will, wouldn't we all be a bit more enlightened (and lazy) with one
._. another one of my random thoughts
 
lol
 
Such a computer exists
 
it's called a smartphone :P
 
They're called smartphones
 
Yeah, but they don't float D:
 
7:02 AM
@Insilico Ninjaed, bitch :P
 
They do when you throw them
 
XD
 
@DeadMG DAMMIT
 
lol
 
ROFL!
 
7:02 AM
Or drop them in the pool or something
 
I don't think thats "floating" so much as "gravity hasn't yet had time to bring them to the ground"
 
lol perhaps bring it to the ISS?
 
Keeping in mind @sbi and @sehe's advice, I started learning a little history......and I wasn't very pleased. My conclusions: The Human Race is Composed of A**holes who like to randomly kill innocent people, start wars and build an empire.
 
just noticed?
the Merkin Rampages seem pretty tame in comparison
 
Actually plagues did a much better job of killing people than any wars we did
 
7:04 AM
@DeadMG I think he needs one of said devices
:D
 
Why are there always people out to conquer the world?
First there was Alexander the Great, then the Arab Bedouin Tribes, then Gengis Khan, then the British, then Germany, then Russia, and nowadays its the USA.
 
in the past 24 hours or so, I have downloaded 130GB
@IntermediateHacker Because they're pussies.
 
@DeadMG what are you downloading?
 
@Hoxieboy Films and TV shows in HD for my brother
 
KHAAAAAAN
@DeadMG holy thats alot of media
 
sbi
7:05 AM
@IntermediateHacker Yeah, but that's only one side of it. One one hand, we're as violent as chimps, OTOH, we're as loving as bonobos. Reducing humans to either one isn't doing us justice.
afk
 
@sbi would know that considering his gravatar is a chimp
 
awww, chimps are cute though D:
 
@Hoxieboy: Have you ever been to a zoo?
 
@Insilico rofl, its a gorilla
 
They can be quite violent
 
7:06 AM
@sbi yes, but just open a random history book. It will be filled with detailed accounts of wars and conquests... but is there any mention of peace? love? humanity?
 
@Hoxieboy: Perhaps if the picture was bigger than my thumbnail I would've figured out it was a gorilla
 
@Insilico I know, ive seen pictures of people with their fingers and and face torn off from the things, they're still cute :(
 
@IntermediateHacker: Well, there were peace between wars
It wasn't like WWII happened the second after WWI
 
@Insilico Comparative to the damage caused, then yes, it pretty much did
 
If you want to talk about human lives lost then neither both WWI or WWII could hold a candle to epidemics
 
7:09 AM
Here are the greatest causes of wars I've analysed:
1- Paranoia
2- Greed
3- Religion
 
@IntermediateHacker that shows you that we still havent grown out of our homosapien stage, just give it time
 
if you were born in 1914, just before your father was brutally gassed to death, you would have been hardly 24 before the second world war broke out
 
It sucked living in the 18th century without the medical technology we have today
 
@Insilico it sucks living today without the medical technology they will have in 50 years
 
luckily we also identified materials like lead and asbestos
 
7:11 AM
At least there weren't nuclear weapons
 
@IntermediateHacker Carl Sagan co-authored an illuminating book about the role of instincts
 
nuclear weapons have been a great thing
 
@IntermediateHacker nuclear weapons? at least there wasnt the H-bomb
._.
 
At least you could do something about nuclear weapons; you could see them
 
we would have had several nasty wars in the 60s and 70s if it wasn't for MAD
 
7:12 AM
Smallpox, et al are invisible to the human eye
How do you deal with an invisible agent before vaccines, et al? Now that's terrifying!
 
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors: A Search for Who We Are (1993) is a non-fiction book by the late Carl Sagan and his wife, Ann Druyan. Cover Blurb World renowned scientist Carl Sagan and acclaimed author Ann Druyan have written a Roots for the human species, a lucid and riveting account of how humans got to be the way we are. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors is a thrilling saga that starts with the origin of the Earth. It shows with humor and drama that many of our key traits — self-awareness, technology, family ties, submission to authority, hatred for those a little different from ourselv...
 
everybody thinks nuclear bombs are the most destructive bomb, don't get me wrong, their radiation isn't something to be messed with, but the H-bomb has far more power
now we have railguns
don't get me started :(
 
@Hoxieboy Not really.
 
@Hoxieboy now we have sanctions!
 
railguns can only operate for a ridiculously short period of time before massively overheating
 
7:13 AM
@Hoxieboy As far as I know, railguns are only effective in Anime.
 
@DeadMG think about the destruction they can cause before then
 
@Hoxieboy Easier to just fire a missile.
 
@AlfPSteinbach And I think a main scene in the second book in the Second Foundation trilogy "stole" the main ideas from the first part of Carl Sagan's book. Unless it was the other way around. I'm not sure.
 
@Mysticial they can punch through 10 aircraft carriers and STILL lodge themselves in the ocean floor by 50 feet, please, don't tell me they are ineffective
@Insilico I believe they have if I'm not mistaken?
 
@Hoxieboy: They still have a long way to go before one can just install one on a ship carrier
For general military use?
 
7:16 AM
@Insilico And we've already figured how to do that with nukes - which are arguably more powerful than railguns.
 
@Insilico I don't know, I really hope not but something tells me they have
imagine if we had a massive orbital railgun
:o
 
@Hoxieboy you don't need. you can just throw stones.
 
anime for now :P
@AlfPSteinbach can you through stones past the sound barrier? XD
 
@Hoxieboy oh yes (from space)
 
don't get me wrong, but one guy built a railgun in his garage and sent a magnetized piece of steel through a 2 inch thick sheet of ballistics steel, it isn't something to be messed with :P
 
7:19 AM
@AlfPSteinbach: Can this said stone survive the reentry? :-)
 
@Insilico If it's big enough yes. :)
 
rofl it would need to be bigger than a mile or two :D
 
Say several kilometers or something...
 
Let's not forget about terminal velocity: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity
 
have fun trying to chuck that lol
 
7:20 AM
@Hoxieboy Don't need to. You just purburb one of the million Earth-crossing asteroids.
 
x pos = v0x * time(seconds), ypos = v0y * time(seconds) *.5 * 32.2' * cos(time(seconds)^2) basic 2d trajectory :D
 
Argg UNITS!!!!
 
XD
 
I assume you're talking about ft/s^2
since you have 32.2 in it
 
right
time to officially render some shiznitfaces
 
7:23 AM
The US really needs to move on to SI units
 
yes, because the gravitational feet per second is 32.2
@Insilico agreed
 
The acceleration is 32.2 ft/s^2
ft/s is velocity
Actually to be really pedantic acceleration and velocity are vector quantities
 
it has a gravitational downward pull (which IS velocity) of 32.2 feet
 
No, gravity is a force
 
acceleration = velocity
 
7:24 AM
No, acceleration != velocity
acceleration = rate of change of velocity
No, force = rate of change of velocity * mass
 
no
f = ma
 
F = ma
a = acceleration
 
augh physics
 
I went to a Subway and ordered a 15.24 cm sandwich
And said sandwich artist actually understood that
XD
 
what, you wanted it precisely measured?
 
7:26 AM
a little over 6 inches D:
 
Actually I think 15.24 cm == exactly 6 inches
by definition
 
ah
perhaps there was a crumb attached and made it go to 15.25 cm
 
@DeadMG: Well, I am a programmer, so yes.
:-)
 
1504320 miles = 285929888517.77484 barleycorns
who would have known?
 
Hell, even England doesn't use English units nowadays
 
7:30 AM
XD
1504320 miles = 2420968366080000000* nanometers
1504320 miles = 23828428800 hands, thats a lot of hands
 
more importantly, who cares?
 
Metrologists do, I guess
 
@DeadMG things are supposed to be important?
 
(Not to be confused to be meterologist)
 
@Hoxieboy I never said that I only cared about important things.
I merely said (well, heavily implied) that I do not care about the values of utterly random and meaningless conversions
 
7:33 AM
@DeadMG sounds like a few parsecs
or a few furlongs, whatever those are
 
in English 99, you can have a furlonglong
 
lol
how about 1 exabyte? = 1152921504606847000 bytes
need some space?
 
@Hoxieboy: See that depends on who you ask
 
I'm going to start moving it to the bin
 
XD
 
7:35 AM
Some hard drive manufacturers say 1 GB = 1 billion bytes
And it's confusing as hell
 
derp
 
Actually I think all hard drive manufacturers say 1 GB = 1 billion bytes
 
1 gb = 1073741824 bytes
yeah, essentially, but they forgot the extra 7 million b
lol
:P
 
Hello All, I'm profiling an application for the first time and having a very hard time making sense of the results , anyone care to help me out ?\
 
I think @DeadMG is confident in his C++ abilities, he would help you out
hopefully...
 
7:43 AM
@Hoxieboy The trouble is... nobody knows how to utilize it. :)
 
@Hoxieboy I would, but I really don't find such a task interesting, so I won't.
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and yes, they use one for processing all incoming messages, texts, emails, phonecalls and files to the US for words leading to terrorist attacks (supposedly)
 
@DeadMG :) Really dead ? :D
 
yes really#
 
@DeadMG I'll have to wait the whole day for martinho or jaif or sbi to come on :P
 
7:46 AM
it's pretty unlikely to be the whole day on a Sunday
 
@angryInsomniac perhaps simply look up a tutorial on google or something?
 
hmm
@Hoxieboy Its a tool related idiosyncrasy , more importantly , the tool doesnt describe itself so some wise sould should be able to decipher it !
 
@angryInsomniac why can't people adapt?
they've been doing it for thousands of years
 
@Hoxieboy Not sure what you mean by that
 
@angryInsomniac that means if one plausible solution doesnt work, try another
simple right?
 
7:49 AM
@angryInsomniac It means he thinks you're stupid :P
 
@DeadMG no, just not open to the way of adaptation, if you haven't already, go post on SO, where hundreds if not thousands of people are waiting to gain rep by answering your question
 
@DeadMG Well he has a stupid way of saying it then
@Hoxieboy No offence dude .. but I let the 10K rep dudes to talk down to me , they are gurus in their firld
*feild
@Hoxieboy So , stop giving me noob advice
I've been here longer than you !
 
@angryInsomniac there are lots of people who would answer a question on SO, and the question stays there, you're a fool if you havent
 
uh
I was joking :P
 
@Hoxieboy Oh the self righteous idiots
This conversation is over
 
7:52 AM
@angryInsomniac like yourself who can't listen to some sensible advice
 
@Hoxieboy ahahaha ... dude .. Open ended questions are a no no on SO , you would know that if yoy hung around
and I know my question is open ended
 
93 rep? what, are you some sort of expert poster? no, this is a chat room get used to it, or get out?
 
@Hoxieboy Dont start flaming in this chat room :P
 
guys guys
calm down, I was only joking
 
what is the bin chatroom/channel for?
 
7:54 AM
@FaheemMitha It's for moderation. We don't get the power to delete messages, but we can move them. Now we move them into a place which is explicitly designed to be never, ever visited.
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like this
 
@Dead
 
@DeadMG : Oh. I thought there was no moderation here. Why are the messages moved?
 
@DeadMG I tried to be civilized for so long !! But this guy just couldn't get the hint !!
 
@FaheemMitha Room owners can move them. The point of the Bin is to have a dumping ground for undesirable messages
 
@FaheemMitha that exact reason? we don't need trash filling up the chat, its not classy
 
7:56 AM
@Hoxieboy : Ok. Meaning abusive messages and the like?
 
yup
 
@DeadMG : Ok.
 
well, pretty much anything that violates the room's rules
here in the Lounge we're generally very relaxed about it, so that's not much
but the other rooms can do what they like in this regard
 
@DeadMG : Hmm. Pointer to the rules, please?
is that the info link?
 
there really aren't any
 
7:57 AM
@FaheemMitha in the newbie hints, if any
 
you pretty much get whatever the owners who are in the channel right now hand down
 
->
 
@DeadMG Ok.
@Hoxieboy : What newbie hints?
 
@angryInsomniac please, simply posting a question does not take that much time at all, and if it gets answered, great, move on with life, if not, well then the same
 
@FaheemMitha On the right.
 
7:58 AM
@FaheemMitha to right and up a bit of this message in the starred messages
 
man, my asshole is throbbing
it is a most unpleasant feeling
 
O.o
 
@Hoxieboy Ah ! why dont you get it ? Open ended queries are not allowed on SO ! I know people here , so I ask them open ended questions !! Read the Faq
 
@angryInsomniac "I have a problem interpreting X data" isn't open-ended.
 
@DeadMG That ... is an ominous portent :D what dd you do ? :P
 
8:00 AM
no idea
 
@angryInsomniac try to make it un-open ended? its the least you could do. if it gets closed, then it doesnt matter anyways
 
++
 
@DeadMG which brings me to another point, why is your asshole throbbing? XD
@kfmfe04 hai :D
 
lol
 
is it wrong, to sleep with a knife stuck in the bottom of a mattress on a single top bunked bed?
another one of my random, and rather morbid questions ._.
@ScottW Well, I'm right under the knife, under my bed, on a desk, with lots of papers around me, I could potentially be buried after being stabbed 0.0
nevermind, its rhetorical...
 
8:07 AM
@Hoxieboy Ok. I didn't see them because my font size was set too large. Common problem.
 
@FaheemMitha lol my text is microscopic :D
@ScottW oh thats mean D: lol
awww, remember that computer that could process 10 petaflops a second? it doesn't have graphics acceleration, no minecraft D:
the K computer
from japan
 
I wouldn't mind
 
but, but MINECRAFT, why D:
lol, 1000000 fps?
 
I hardly ever play games - I'm either programming, doing homework, or wasting time on the internets
 
lol
@KianMayne same :P though when I do play games, its MINECRAFT :D
 
8:12 AM
it's time for me to sleep
night night everybody
 
@DeadMG good night sugar lumps
that k was never there
 
@DeadMG :L You haven't slept yet? Typical uni student :L
 
you didn't see that k! lies and slander
 
@Hoxieboy that K computer is interesting. According to Wikipedia, "While the K computer reports the highest total power consumption of any TOP500 supercomputer (9.89 MW – the equivalent of almost 10,000 suburban homes), the computer is relatively efficient, achieving 824.6 GFlop/kWatt."
that's one hot machine
 
@kfmfe04 lol, still no graphics support D:
@kfmfe04 they don't mention those few guys who have ironman labs in their basement :)
 
8:16 AM
@Hoxieboy the wasted cycles of that machine idling to do work would be mind-boggling...
 
@kfmfe04 I think they have it solving values of PI while its idling, not sure
"idling", lol
 
> Real men don't use backups, they post their stuff on a public ftp server and let the rest of the world make copies.
 
sounds like a botnet to me'
 
Linus Torvalds
 
I guess that's the principle behind people uploading... lewd media. :-P
 
sbi
8:27 AM
@IntermediateHacker But that's because peace isn't something that gets written down in history books We have had piece in Europe for >60 years. Yet, what will you find when you look into history books? Britain brawling over the Falklands, Britain and France fighting in Iraq, many European countries fighting in Afghanistan. But this is not my daily live here in Germany. That has always been peace, although history books have very little room to spend on peaceful daily live.
@Insilico I mean. Really. Even with the thumbnail in the list of users currently in the room above the starboard at my 1920x1200, it is really easy to see that this is not a chimp.
 
@sbi : Possibly a temporary lull. And it isn't exactly peaceful in other parts of the world.
And Germany is one of the most progressive and advanced countries in the world. Though expensive, I understand. Not exactly typical.
 
@sbi exactly, why write about the average every day peaceful life? thats why it always shows war and unusual things, also depends on what "history book"
there are so far 11 trillion numbers and counting in pi O.o
3.

1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923 0781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460 9550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954 9303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485 6692346034861045432664821339360726024914127372458700660631558817 4881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384 1469519415116094330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185 4807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912983367336244 0656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176 75238467
 
sbi
@FaheemMitha In the last hundred years, Germany had 2x4 years of war, plus some troops in Afghanistan. That 80+ years in between is not exactly what I'd call a "temporary lull".
 
@sbi : I meant since the 2nd world war ended. I thought that is what you were referring to, in "We have had piece in Europe for >60 years".
 
@ScottW well, technically its still standing
just, decommissioned :)
the cold war wasnt violent, neither was it peaceful
there are still 11 trillion numbers in pi, by the way
just saying
gods its 2 am here
 
Bob
8:45 AM
Anybody who can help me with a domain driven design question?
 
sbi
@FaheemMitha And what does that change? 60 years of peace is still a long time.
@Hoxieboy Actually, except for some museum pieces, most of it is crunched.
 
@sbi but it is constantly being made :)
 
@sbi : From an individual human perspective, yes.
 
@FaheemMitha what does it matter really? no one thing is EVER, I mean EVER going to unify the entire planet (and possibly beyond) under one flag of peace, its been hardwired into out very genes to act they way we do, we will ALWAYS be different, and argue about those differences
 
But I believe that this is quite unusual in European history.
 
8:50 AM
I question the "peace" after fighting with my sister yesterday :P
 
sbi
@Hoxieboy One thing that unifies individuals is a common threat to them. Given an alien species invading earth, we'd be united.
 
@Hoxieboy Careful how you phrase things!
 
@Hoxieboy : I'm not really sure what the point of this discussion was, if it had one. :-) I was simply saying that Europe has been quite peaceful since the second world war ended, but (a) it is unusual in historical terms and (b) it won't last. That's all.
 
it all ends eventually, so roll with the punches
 
sbi
@Hoxieboy I have no idea what you're talking about.
afk
 
8:52 AM
@ScottW she ate the last banana
please, don't inquire further XD
 
There is infinite number of digits in π.
 
very good cat
@ScottW so far, there hasnt been a pattern, and based from that, no end
agreed
 
@ScottW No. It's recursive!
 
its irrational
derp?
works
@ScottW I give you the task of calculating the distance from the earth to the moon on paper, GO!
No cheating!
 
@ScottW Pi is irrational as it can't be written as the quotient of two integers
 
8:57 AM
Math is all about theory, concepts and abstractions.
Real world has nothing to do with it.
 
BTW, for those here living in Western Europe, and there seem to be quite a lot of such people here... How are things there these days?
 
proof that infinity exists -> ∞
 
@FaheemMitha Economy: Eurozone is still bad, England has stopped getting worse
 
XD
 
@KianMayne : What about day to day life? Are things comfortable?
 

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