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2:00 PM
lol, VS IntelliSense does the opposite of MVP.
I was writing a function declaration and typed std::vector<glyph_datum> collect_info(; it displayed a list of vector ctors.
 
"lol"...
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Ongoing drama. Do not enter. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
There is a company called Potato near Bristol, UK.
 
sbi
@sehe What do you mean, "again"?
@TonyTheLion wholetomato.com
 
@sbi lol yes, I downloaded VA this morning, as it happens.
 
0
A: Static Data Members

SepalaNever mind, I did it with a getter method. Closing thread

 
sbi
2:15 PM
@TonyTheLion When working in VC++, I loved this plugin. Also, 90% of the VC programmers I have seen who tried it for three days got hooked and ended up scratching at their manager's door begging for them to buy it.
 
Still battling with Sainsbury’s … the bastards just ignored me on Twitter, let’s try Facebook instead …
 
@KonradRudolph lol
What do they need an ID card for?
 
yeah, VAX ftw
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes alcohol purchase
which, by the way, I find very reasonable
 
2:16 PM
Oh, that.
 
@sbi Seems like I'm having it stuffed down my throat.
 
Can you even get into the UK without a passport?
 
But from your review of it, it may not be a bad thing
@R.MartinhoFernandes No
UK is not part of Shengen, so you need a passport
 
Then it does not seem like such an unreasonable policy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Of course! It may not be in Schengen but it’s in the EU
 
2:18 PM
I got ID'd at a pub once for buy a Coke.
and because I didn't have it, the lady at the bar refused to sell me my coke
meh
 
@KonradRudolph Oh.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion There's far worse things they could force you to accept. It's a great tool.
 
@KonradRudolph Erm, I invite you try.
 
I got ID'd twice when entering my high school, while I was in it
Never while buying alcohol
 
2:19 PM
@TonyTheLion I am currently in the UK
what do you think how I entered? Stealthily at night, by boat?
 
sbi
I can well imagine: "What's that mangy tomcat doing in school?"
 
@KonradRudolph You got in without showing your passport at the border? I wonder what border you passed through then?!
 
@TonyTheLion The normal one. Like I said, no passport needed – just a national ID
 
^ pls bin it. it's too red
 
2:20 PM
Well, I'm always asked to show my passport (or ID)
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion IIRC, I got in by showing my German ID. No passport necessary.
 
> (Or ID)
 
@KonradRudolph damn you. for confusing me
 
there you have it
 
I stopped differentiating, because essentially, they both prove who you are.
 
2:21 PM
Except at Sainsbury's, it seems.
 
I use my driver license
 
@Konrad You could simply tell them to fuck off and do your business elsewhere.
I mean, there's bound to be alcohol on sale somewhere else.
 
I was with a friend once, at Sainsbury's and he tried to buy ciggies, and because I didn't have my ID and I was with him, they refused to sell him ciggies.
I mean, that was just silly.
 
How can you not have your ID?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That’s what I’m gonna do next time, but it means leaving all my groceries (or just the alcohol, and that would be stupid) at the till
 
2:23 PM
Am I weird for never being out without an ID?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't always carry it around with me.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes :P
 
Ok.
I thought that was normal.
You humans are silly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In Germany, no. In UK: definitely! They don’t even have national ID at the moment
 
it's normal for a police state
 
@KonradRudolph Yeah, no national ID is something that baffles me even more.
@Abyx I am not even going to think what that message might have intended to mean.
 
2:26 PM
nvm...
 
@CatPlusPlus I've never gotten ID'd in my life. Well, outside from the airport checkin desk
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what other meaning can you give it, besides exactly what it says?
 
Xeo
You're weird in all other regards, though.
 
oh well, that says a lot for someone who's met Robot IRL
lol
 
2:28 PM
:/
 
Xeo
:) j/k
 
:)
ffs
 
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity: java.lang.NullPointerException
 
Boost always giving me frecking Linker errors
 
THERE SHOULD BE NO NPE HERE
STOP LYING TO ME JAVA
 
2:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
 
Xeo
The robot's fine. Except that he likes to empty @sbi's alcohol stock and then complain to have been coerced into getting drunk.
 
YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS
 
oh, the Cat's feelings are hurt :(
 
Go fuck yourself Java. And take Android with you. Go die in fire
 
2:31 PM
@Xeo At the rate I drink, it would take very special circumstances for me to empty his stock (namely, that he forgot to resupply and is running on fumes)
 
Xeo
Heh
 
lol
dat ape
 
It just happens that I am better than you at getting drunk.
 
@CatPlusPlus sounds more like "Java, please, don't fuck me"
 
Xeo
Right, I forgot for a moment that you're drunk way too fast.
 
2:32 PM
I really need an excuse to book a flight to Berlin.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that supposed to be a good thing?
 
You know what's funny
 
@Xeo You're just jealous.
 
That piece of code does absolutely nothing
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Err... no.
 
2:32 PM
It's literally this
 
@CatPlusPlus nah, it throws an exception
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I never forget to resupply my stock. I just wasn't prepared for how thirsty you were.
 
oh to Berlin it's only 120 pounds
return
 
    for (T x : App.getRootUser().getShit()) {
        if (!new File(FileUtil.createPathToFile(someShit)).exists()) {
        }
    }
 
Xeo
2:33 PM
Oh look, an ape.
 
that's actually fairly reasonable, to hop over for a weekend once
 
This is literally this piece of code
It exists
 
oh my....
 
oh gawd
 
2:34 PM
Well, okay, anonymised a little
 
sbi
Why is that cat disturbing our nicely flowing conversation with its code rage?
 
well, you did get shit there
@sbi multithreading!
 
sbi
@Abyx I've got but one brain.
 
Xeo
@sbi Fulfilling the male stereotype?
 
If I comment it out, probably something else will break
Fuck non-pure functions. This shit is unrefactorisable
 
2:36 PM
@CatPlusPlus I bet you don't use TDD
 
ITT Cat stuck in Java.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus App might not exist, getRootUser() might return a np, createPathToFile() could. Also, what is x used for?
 
Ahahaha TDD
@sbi To create that filename
And then it does nothing
Literally
It's a loop with an if with empty body
 
sbi
@Xeo Since I fulfill all male stereotypes, why not this one, too. Burp.
 
@sbi getShit() also could, getShit().iterator() also could. There are way to many points for an NP to arise there. After all, that's how Java works.
 
2:37 PM
@Abyx This is "old-contractor-almost-bankrupted-our-client-driven-development"
 
@CatPlusPlus nah... you just don't get how to write in Java
 
I didn't write 99% of this
Also it's very easy: you just don't write it in Java
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus I bet they wouldn't let you.
@CatPlusPlus Indeed, we don't. You do, though.
 
poor little Java-writer :'(
 
sbi
2:39 PM
Purr, little Java writer.
 
Cat rages about C++, but then goes and kills himself writing Java.
7
 
I hope your workplace migrates everything to PHP
 
totally can see the logic there, Mr. Cat
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@CatPlusPlus curse us
 
sbi
2:40 PM
@CatPlusPlus I am doing embedded now. The worst that could happen to me is C. Given how the R&D boss cultivates C++, though, this an entirely unfounded fear.
 
If my job involved C++, this codebase would be even worse
 
7 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
oh to Berlin it's only 120 pounds
@sbi
in case you missed it, I was considering maybe sometime next year I could pop over to Berlin for a weekend
 
@TonyTheLion What? You're coming to Berlin?
 
Considering it.
Actually, why the fuck not
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion I saw it, but I do not currently see how to fit you in logistically. No bed, and no time before next week, and none again the weekend after that.
 
Xeo
2:42 PM
@sbi > sometime next year
 
@sbi I did say next year (ie Jan/Feb or whenever)
or November 2013 :P
 
sbi
@Xeo Actually I am free the weekend before xmas...
 
Xeo
Hm, I'll have to make a trip to Berlin then too, can't miss such an opportunity.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Oh, I failed to see that.
 
Xeo
@sbi I'm gone from 14th onward :s
 
2:43 PM
I only leave on the 24th.
 
sbi
@Xeo We could meet during the week, though. If the lion comes flown into town, he'd probably do that over the weekend.
 
Xeo
Although, I may be back for christmas... hm.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Planning a secret meeting. Do not enter. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
Xeo
Not sure yet how the second half of December is going to look for me.
 
sbi
@Tony, I don't have any schedules yet for next year. so I cannot make any commitments.
 
Xeo
2:44 PM
I got some ... issues with the Jobcenter in Oberhausen.
 
@sbi No worries. It's not like everything needs to be planned now. When the time is right, things can be decided.
 
@sbi If you cannot make commitments because you don't have any schedules for next year, and since you get schedules by making commitments, that means you will never have any schedules for next year, no?
 
Xeo
If I don't get money for my initial furniture from them (which is decided on the 17th), I'll be in Berlin from before Christmas to New Year's.
 
lol guis
 
Xeo
2:46 PM
Y U CHANGE NAME?! AND GRAVATAR?!
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I usually get schedules by having them forced down my throat by an ex-wife.
 
I'm attending a conference AGAIN </mylife>
Guess what
 
@sbi Oh.
Right.
 
@sbi :(
 
The guy is an ex student from my school, he says he hasn't coded a single line of code since he graduated.
 
2:46 PM
@NolwennLeGuen More CMMI levels?
 
Should I stand up and leave or sumthin
 
yes
do it!
Troll ALL THE CONFERENCES!
 
@NolwennLeGuen You forgot the "You are an idiot" somewhere in there.
Also, it occurs to me that I know the perfect person to kill for a name like that.
 
sbi
What, that is the insect?
 
Ahahahaha that app takes 5 minutes to login on the emulator
 
2:48 PM
yes
 
He just added "I'm glad I haven't coded since I left the school". Oh boy. I'm going to throw him a brick.
 
that is the insect
 
Xeo
2 mins ago, by Xeo
Y U CHANGE NAME?! AND GRAVATAR?!
 
It's so horrible
 
@NolwennLeGuen, you'd better changed your avatar, rather than name. It's so blue
 
sbi
2:48 PM
@Xeo That's what made me looking.
 
@NolwennLeGuen I'd be glad too
 
Xeo
@Abyx It's green, actually.
 
Especially if I got paid
 
@Xeo huh?
 
@Xeo The avatar is the same old one.
 
Xeo
2:48 PM
@Abyx ctrl-F5
 
Morning.
 
No, it's not.
 
sbi
@Abyx It's green here.
 
2:49 PM
oh my....
yep, I see it now.
 
sbi
So, @Nol, what made you change your identity?
@Abyx Had someone slap the back of your head?
 
meh
gravatar didn't change here
suckage
 
@sbi she's searching for a job
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Shift+F5
 
Xeo
2:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cache.
 
@sbi She wants to use her real name for job searching purposes.
 
guis i think you're a bit too focused on my gravatar @_@
 
Xeo
@sbi *Ctrl
 
@sbi nope, it was f5, just as Xeo said
 
nope
@NolwennLeGuen the center of attention, surely as you wanted it to be?!
 
Xeo
2:50 PM
@NolwennLeGuen We're always doing that if any regular is changing Gravatar / name.
 
@TonyTheLion This is getting out of control.
 
sbi
@Xeo Shift bypasses the cache in FF. Ctrl would reload in a new tab. Of which I already have too many.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes The different-sized images are cached individually.
 
@Xeo So I'm a regular now? (/cc @sbi)
 
I don't see why not.
 
sbi
2:51 PM
@NolwennLeGuen Don't ask me, I'm not even an owner yet here. :)
 
Xeo
@sbi No, ctrl-F5 forces reload. Shift-F5 does nothing for me.
 
@sbi "yet"? Sounds like something Etienne de Drunkard would say.
 
sbi
@Xeo Damn, you're right! They must have changed that.
 
Xeo
I don't think so. It's been that way since forever.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's this has to do with your nick/avatar on a programmer's site?
 
2:52 PM
@NolwennLeGuen Remember you excitement when I changed my gravatar?
 
sbi
@Xeo Whatever you young people consider "forever".
 
@sbi Ask her. I guess she wants to have her account clearly associated with name, or something.
 
@KonradRudolph Hormones!
 
Xeo
@NolwennLeGuen You're here regularly, converse with us and aren't scared of us. Need anything more? :P
 
More importantly though, @NolwennLeGuen, how is your first name pronounced in French? No-lu-enne?
 
2:53 PM
@KonradRudolph I doubt it. Too few zs.
 
lol
I think it should sound the same in english. It's not a french name.
 
sbi
@NolwennLeGuen Then it isn't your real name?
 
@NolwennLeGuen LOL @ thinking French people could pronounce English things
 
hmmm...
2 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
U+0BA8 TAMIL LETTER NA
U+0BA3 TAMIL LETTER NNA
U+0BA9 TAMIL LETTER NNNA
U+0BB2 TAMIL LETTER LA
U+0BB3 TAMIL LETTER LLA
U+0BB4 TAMIL LETTER LLLA
Nolwe-nn .. ll...
 
sbi
2:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes But what's that worth when that account is poisoned with "@Cicada" all over the place? It took me 2mins to find her earlier user name, after all.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Furthermore, how is it pronounced in English? Same as Nolwyn?
 
nevermind.
 
@sbi Wat.
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Probably the same as in French.
 
@sbi And the earlier before that? ;)
@KonradRudolph Very close yes.
 
sbi
2:56 PM
@NolwennLeGuen THEN IT ISN'T YOUR REAL NAME? Got it this time?
 
@sbi wut. Why wouldn't it
 
sbi
@NolwennLeGuen The earlier what before what?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Ah thought so. There are other britannic/celtic names like that, e.g. Bronwen/Bronwyn
 
@KonradRudolph Yes, same origins.
Can we please change topics though lol
 
sbi
@NolwennLeGuen Because you tried to give the impression you're French, and I cannot even imagine a French name being pronounced the same in English as it is in French.
@NolwennLeGuen No, names are interesting. Also, you haven't explained why you changed yours.
 
2:57 PM
@sbi Bob would pretty much be pronounced the same in both languages :P
but that's probably the only name
 
sbi
@emartel Is that a French name?
 
Thomas in French is Zomasse.
 
@sbi we have Bobs in Quebec (French province of Canada)
 
@sbi As the Robot said, for job purposes. I'm going to clearly associate my name to my SO account while I send out CVs. After that I'll revert to silly nicknames (am open to suggestions)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you ever have problems with ProGuard?
 
2:59 PM
Wut
I have no idea what that is.
Or why you are asking me.
 
Because you did Android
 
sbi
@NolwennLeGuen Why do you think you'd need your real name on SO in order to send CV's?
 
It's the optimisation thingy that runs during the build
 
Oh, it's an Android thing. No, I never had problems with it, to the point I never knew it exists.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Oh, that was him!?
 
3:00 PM
@sbi Because France. I guess.
 
@sbi I'm that awesome.
 
I literally changed three lines of code, and resulting .apk is now behaving erratically on different versions of Android
Bloody DuckTapeOS
Or maybe it's the logging
 
sbi
It's actually Duct Tape, IIRC.
Anyway, I'm off.
 
lajsdlf nvasdlkrpasdnv[lsud absekfsd sfdf
 
@sbi You're a robot too?
 
3:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus hmmm, yes logical argument there.
 
I don't even know how to debug this
I have no clue why anyone would WANT to write something on this platform
It's just beyond me
 
Well
Java developers
 
Xeo
> Aerodynamics aside, I’m curious what tactical advantage you’re expecting to gain by having the high explosive fly back at you if it misses the target.
(inb4 "slowpoke")
 
op can't inb4
Also
When was std::move first implemented? In TR1? Or something like that?
 
3:08 PM
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then?
 
@NolwennLeGuen 'nuff said.
 
Xeo
@NolwennLeGuen TR1 had no move semantics.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Potato island.
 
3:09 PM
Wut?
 
"Then" can be used to indicate temporal sequencing afterwards.
So, I replied "yes", std::move came after TR1.
 
Oh, I didn't know that.
 
TR1 came, and then std::move.
I might have misunderstood your question.
 
No no, you did understand it. I misunderstood your answer :)
 
3:13 PM
Is there some cheat sheet with VS keyboard shortcuts somewhere?
 
Does this help?
 
Oh neat.
Thanks.
 
Give an upvote to this guy then!
@NolwennLeGuen: very helpful. — Evert 9 mins ago
 
Rubbing your ego?
Ah, sarcasm
@NolwennLeGuen Why do you even bother commenting on PHP questions?
 
I don't know. Also comment deleted, what
 
3:19 PM
Flags on comments can result on auto-deletes.
 
Xeo
The implementation itself looks fine to me, but you should also declare it inline. Template functions aren't implicitly declared inline unless they're defined inside a class, so if you want the compiler to inline the functions generated from gun, you have to say so. (Compilers are permitted to inline functions not declared inline, but if you want to maximize the likelihood that gun will be inlined, explicitly using inline seems prudent.) — KnowItAllWannabe 4 hours ago
Gawd, so much misinformation...
 
So, this Reddit thread on Lego made it to the BBC.
 
Xeo
FFFFFF.... damn, I forgot again that there was a concert in the near future that I wanted to attend...
Which is today, obviously.
 
3:35 PM
oh lol
I hate that
not that I have many concerts I want to attend
although a metal gig would be nice, every so often
 
Xeo
Stone Sour + Papa Roach. :|
I was at a PR concert once, 'twas awesome.
 
oh I'm listening to P Roach at this moment
I never really listened to Stone Sour
0xFFFFFF -FTFY
 
Xeo
0hFFFFFF ?
@R.MartinhoFernandes What happened to your comment on the forwarding question?
 
Ell
Ive Never been to a concert
Don't see the big deal really o.O
 
time to come out of your cubby hole and go to one :)
 
Ell
3:49 PM
You can listen to music any time
 
@Ell erm, good music? That's the big deal, oh yea and the atmosphere.
 
Ell
I woildnt know what to do, I don't dance unless I'm drunk :P
 
easy to get drunk at a gig
buy beer, get drunk :)
lol
 
Ell
Also, donner kebab meat Or not?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Eh, if you don't pay attention to the prices :s
 
3:50 PM
@Xeo yes true
 
Xeo
@Ell It's just not the same.
 
Ell
Is it worth the risk of food poisoning? :L
 
dude, you worry way too much
stop worrying, and live life!
 
Xeo
"Going outside, worth the risk of randomly getting shot?" :P
 
3:52 PM
@Xeo Oh Sheldon Cooper you...
 
@TonyTheLion Famous last words.
 
Xeo
1 message moved to bin
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At least, dying knowing you've lived, is better than dying having done not much of interest.
 
There is no amount of alcohol that can make me dance
 
also, look at all the fuck I give...
@CatPlusPlus Question is: is there an amount of alcohol that can make you less grumpy?
 
3:54 PM
Or sing
Or talk on Mumble apparently
 
oh gawd, yes you OWE use two words on Mumble!
then we can write it in our History books, "Cat said two words on Mumble"
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus What about singing on Mumble while dancing in front of a webcam?
 
Yes this ^
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where CatPlusPlus is about to go singing on Mumble while dancing in front of a webcam. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
Well I've never tried absinthe
 
3:58 PM
Good morning, fellow sentient entities!
(There, I managed to include most people)
 
good morning
 

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