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2:00 AM
You'd write everything on your resume wouldn't you
 
Some Google interviewers ask discrete math questions. It's important for graphs an shit.
 
I would.
My resume is already 2 pages long.
It's pretty gross, tbh.
 
LMFAO
 
I should start cleaning it up, once I get another Major Accomplishment on there.
 
@ThePhD IIRC the part about butter was from A.A.'s original code presented at Going Native 2012.
 
2:01 AM
Reusme:: i bought a house.. i sold a house, i moved, i farted.. ... kinda shit ThePhD?
 
@johnathon Lol, nah.
It's my Resume, not a broken Twitter Feed.
 
user1182183
Nanananananaaanannnanananananaaanananana
 
@ThePhD Well ya know, i had to josh
 
I haven't had many major accomplishments lately, though =/
MUST. DO. SOMETHING. AMAZING!
 
I haven't had any worthwhile accomplishments lately, that mean I'm slacking?
 
2:03 AM
Yerp.
 
no.. it does not.. it means I've got a Shift_ that does not want to shift
 
user1182183
I hope that update is worth it cus it's now only at 33%!
 
Now that I understand that Variadic Templates are evil, I need to also figure out a way to force type-coercion for every argument....
 
What's a good project for someone who's a noob programmer?
 
@ThePhD it's called perfect forwarding
 
2:04 AM
@Crowz A very simple game.
 
@ThePhD By the way to make all the args the same type you can do something like template<typename Type, Type... args> etc.
 
@Crowz a hello world program
 
Write a rational number class.
 
@ThePhD Way too hard
 
@AndreiTita Oooooooh...... That's clever.
@Crowz Like tits it is.
 
2:05 AM
Don't talk to ThePhD about game design, it's hard
 
@ThePhD what does that even meeeean? D:
 
Stop using Java and Ruby and other obscure pieces of crap and pick up a Language it'd be worthwhile to do it in, e.g. C# or ActionSCript.
 
@ThePhD C# ??? Seriously?
 
Design-wise, Flash can get out a quick game and make it look very nice in the 2-D realm, so just go make a quick FlashGame.
 
I'm not even gonna go near OpenGL or DirectX
 
2:05 AM
@johnathon Seriously. Pick up XNA and don't worry about most - if any - of the details.
 
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@Crowz Ogre3D is nicee
 
It doesn't even have to be a full-fledged game
Fucking
Dots
 
@ThePhD im not into writing games... just saying
 
shooting dots at other dots
Add boost, add cool explosions
 
@ThePhD I made a game like that... still insanely difficult
 
2:06 AM
Man suddenly it feels like a game, it feels fun.
 
Though the direct 3d stuff would be cool to get my head wrapped around
and funny in a room full of geeks no one got the Shift_ joke
 
Man..
 
The problem I' have with doing anything remotely complicated with Flash is that every single Flash game I've played was way too sluggish considering the power available in today's computers.
 
gist: 4410551, 2012-12-30 02:07:35Z
 
2:07 AM
Not really knowing Flash myself, I can't tell if it's the language or the programmer's fault.
 
Never finished that game but holy shit was it painful
 
I'm currently using OpenGL via SFML for my 2D purposes. It's ok.
Or rather, I'm using SFML, which is based on OpenGL.
 
user1182183
that false hope the taskbar gives you when there are two progressbars in the installer ;/
 
@Rapptz That's what I would do for my Wife.
If I had one.
 
user142019
@Crowz Java ;_;
 
2:10 AM
@Zoidberg'-- Yeah it was for class
Intro to computer science
 
user142019
Poor, innocent students. :(
 
@ThePhD Did you finish looking through the album?
 
What's bad about java anyway? It's super easy to write in, it's like the easiest language
 
user142019
No, Java is not easy.
 
user142019
And it's terrible.
 
JTA
2:11 AM
Hi all. Need a recommendation: C# dev looking to create, edit, manipulate 2d points, lines, and curves on a surface (think 2D CAD). I would prefer to do this without OpenGL / DX if possible. Does using MFC or Win32 make sense? Any other suggestions? Thanks.
 
user142019
Java is annoying to use.
 
@Rapptz I saw the whole thing man
 
@JTA whats your target platforms?
 
JTA
Windows
 
Minimum os wise?
 
2:12 AM
@ThePhD SETTING THE BAR TOO HIGH.
 
JTA
Windows 7 would be fine. Just a personal project to start with.
 
user142019
The easiest language is definitely not Java.
 
@JTA OK, mfc, or win32 , with Direct 2d.
 
user142019
Python, for one, is much easier.
 
HEy all
 
JTA
2:12 AM
Considered using C# and WPF.. but I would like to sink my teeth into C++ a bit more.
 
user142019
And not designed by idiots.
 
@JTA really, WTL and driect 2d... mfc adds way too much overhead
 
@Rapptz Dude, that's just for all the losers man.
The bar is never too high.
 
user142019
Haskell is also very easy and it's very well designed.
 
JTA
Ok. Thanks for your help.
 
2:14 AM
@JTA overall , direct 2d is easy to use, relatively speaking , is hardware accelerated, and does vector graphics
 
Would a KD tree be any easier to write in C++?
 
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@Rapptz I would do that too, If I had the software, experience, machinery , girlfriend, .....
 
JTA
Final version would have a 2D surface between several toolbars/menus (similar to any other CAD type software)
 
You guys would not do that.. come on. Quit lying.
 
user142019
@Crowz easier than what?
 
2:14 AM
@Zoidberg'-- java
 
user1182183
@Rapptz I wanted to propose in an airplane but that's somehow cooler :P
 
@JTA yea, WTL has a windows ribbon project with a client window to do drawing in , if you want, on my other machine i have completely wrapped all that up so that doing something like what you want to do would be fairly easy get done
 
user142019
Probably not since trees in C++ are usually a hell.
 
https://gist.github.com/9a6f79e1e506b2065bc9
There's one in java
 
JTA
@johnathon I'll have to take a look at WTL. Never used it.
 
2:16 AM
@JTA i was even going for a way to save the files to disk (doing my own marshelling) and was able to wriate a C++ class that you can pass to a graphics object and get all the drawing commands , and parameters and such out of the whole window
@JTA has a vector of drawing info's it keeps record with , and after the graphics object spits it all to that sink, you can retrieve it out of the sink easily.
 
@Rapptz For my Sister, I bought a Purse. I disguised it in a very stiff, plain white coating using a rubber wrap to protect the purse when I made the purse. When she got it she was actually a bit sad. It was the perfect coy: the white coat was brittle since I had made it out of mache, and began to break when she started pawing at it. Underneath was a brilliant Aldo rainbow purse, which was what she likes because she's garish and flamboyant and annoying as shit and likes things to be that way.
 
@JTA WTL , is Windows Template Library, it's free, opensource, and you can find tutorials for it on CodeProject, and there's several whitepapers out there on it. WTL covers UI only though.. its based off of the ATL windowing classes.
 
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@Crowz here is one in Haskell, pretty concise and easy to understand. hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/KdTree/0.2.1/doc/html/src/…
 
yeah but this is a self-made lock and key box engagement.
 
user1182183
99.999%...
 
user1182183
2:19 AM
99.9999999999%...
 
There's more, though: She was so busy getting off the coat she didn't realize that inside I had saved money and purchased almost 100 USD in glittering and magnetic nail polishes from top-producers (nails, Inc., Julep, etc.). After she was done freaking out, she realized there was something inside of it and re-flipped her shit with happiness. Obviously it's not the same as a kick-ass lock-and-key box, but I will be damned before anyone tells me I will not make awesome things happen for the people
 
user1182183
oh c'mon stupid VS updater
 
 
user142019
lol
 
I like and love. Once I actually have more money, access to a machine shop, you'd better believe I'll top that guys Anniversary gift.
 
2:20 AM
Looked at the first line and thought that. Not gonna even bother with those insanemode languages
 
Fine fine.
 
user1182183
still updating...
 
user142019
@Crowz The first line? Really? xD
 
@Zoidberg'-- I do not understand a word of Haskell. :c
 
2:20 AM
@ThePhD access to a machine shop is a dream you an i share sir
 
user142019
Haskell is simple.
 
Haskell confuses the -shit- out of me.
 
@Zoidberg'-- "where" NOPE don't know what that is.
 
user142019
@ThePhD THINK MORE ABSTRACTLY
 
@ThePhD you can get a relatively nice Bridgeport mill for fairly cheap.
 
user142019
2:21 AM
@Crowz where after class Identifier is just like {, really.
 
user142019
It means
 
Still scary
 
user142019
what comes next belongs to this class.
 
This room made me dislike Haskell
 
Haskell made me dislike haskell
 
user142019
2:22 AM
This room made me like Haskell.
 
user1182183
well fuck it I quit programming.
 
user142019
Good. More jobs for me.
 
@GamErix That's the spirit!
 
@GamErix reboot. and reload
 
user1182183
@johnathon ok, one reboot.
 
user142019
2:24 AM
I love <$>.
 
the problem is everyone else does too
 
user142019
I think I'm going to name my blog <$>.
 
What's the easiest job with a computer science degree?
 
Teaching
 
@JohanLarsson early fireworks?
 
2:27 AM
Teaching isn't easy.
 
user142019
@Crowz Cleaning, collecting garbage, deliver newspapers.
 
it was a joke @Rapptz
 
user142019
You can do all of those with a CS degree.
 
@Zoidberg'-- That pays 40k+ per year
 
user142019
I don't know.
 
user142019
2:28 AM
RoR developer if you're lucky.
 
Ruby is scary
 
user142019
RoR does all the things for you. :P
 
to be a developer, of any type, you have to love what you do
you have to love code
just , a love for it.
 
user142019
I always use RoR for web apps. Everything else is way too much effort.
 
user142019
xD
 
2:29 AM
@johnathon Alas, I dislike it strongly.
 
user142019
Tumblr y u bug.
 
user142019
Tumblr y u no let me title my blog "<$>".
 
user1182183
 
@Gr
@GamErix Did your rebot?
 
user1182183
yep
 
user1182183
2:33 AM
reboot , printscreen, lil photoshop with paint and voila.
 
user1182183
no more coding for me ;F
 
@GamErix loaded the same project and it did the same thing? or did you just open it before you tried to load a project?
 
user142019
Oh I had to enter &lt;$> of course because stupid Tumblr doesn't escape HTML. T_T
 
@Zoidberg'-- I've always been taught to get closer to the metal. Why do I want to abstract myself from it?
 
user1182183
@johnathon doesn't matter if I load a project or open VS from the launch shortcut
 
2:34 AM
@ThePhD the whole purpose of c++ is to have high level abstractions that compile down to extremely close to the metal
 
@AndreiTita You mentioned getting specific type safety, but can you type-deduce the arguments so that you don't have to use template parameters?
 
user1182183
loading screen is OK, then the main window pop ups when it's loaded - all black
 
user142019
@ThePhD if you get away more from the metal, you think more about what things are rather than what they exactly do.
 
Hm. A good point.
 
user1182183
and when I try to hit the X anywhere on the top right corner VS doesn't close, have to do it with alt+F4
 
user142019
2:35 AM
And you can focus less on how a computer does its thing.
 
@GamErix Did you try to add a custom extension to it?
 
user142019
Difficult to explain. xd
 
user1182183
@johnathon does creating a custom extension project mean it's automaticly added? ;o
 
user1182183
Oh lol
 
user1182183
well, now it works
 
user1182183
2:37 AM
deleted the add ins folder
 
user1182183
from documents\vs12
 
Oh, poop.
I can't use a class that is currently being defined as a Template Parameter Pack.
 
ok
 
user1182183
visual studio should feel bad for enabling extensions without my consent
 
Welp, no type-safety for me.
 
2:38 AM
Just curious, does anyone here have JS experience, there's no one in Win 8 room and I'm having trouble defining a WinJS.namespace in the right part of my code. Thanks in advance.
 
user1182183
Mhm if I want to create a gadget I just edit an existing one
 
user142019
With FP you focus more on relations (in the mathematical sense), I think.
 
user142019
Rather than a series of steps that must be completed by the CPU.
 
@GamErix mmmhumm, i thought you were the one fooling around with that mess
 
user1182183
@johnathon correct, fooling around and knowing nothing bout it xD
 
user142019
2:39 AM
Of course, use the best tool for the job.
 
user1182183
You know the world would have been a better place without me :P
 
user142019
Sometimes it's FP, sometimes it's IP, sometimes it's OOP.
 
user142019
(And there are more.)
 
@Zoidberg'-- DP !
 
user142019
Double penetration heh, Prolog.
 
2:40 AM
@Zoidberg'-- NLP?
 
@GamErix a DLL has a proper entry point, and a proper exit point, and a VS extension has its own set of rules on top of that. Plus, you have to have the vs sdk installed... not just the windows sdk.
 
user142019
@sehe wuts dat?
 
... I was thinking Data-Programming, actually. Or DOP, Data-Oriented Programming, but now it's just... :c
 
Neuro-linguistic programming
 
user142019
Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is a discredited approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in California, USA in the 1970s. The title asserts a connection between the neurological processes ("neuro"), language ("linguistic"), and behavioural patterns learned through experience ("programming") that proponents speculate can be changed to achieve specific goals in life. The founders, Bandler and Grinder, have made unsubstantiated claims that NLP is capable of addressing problems such as phobias, depression, habit disor...
 
2:41 AM
@ThePhD DoPey
 
user1182183
@johnathon ye I have the VS SDK installed, AND the windows sdk ;p
 
@Zoidberg'-- English sir, english
 
user1182183
dx sdk
 
user1182183
other shit too
 
user1182183
slimdx, ogre3d
 
user142019
2:41 AM
I should write another rant blog post.
 
@GamErix needs more jquery
 
@Zoidberg'-- An organization that makes money buy selling bullcrap.
 
user142019
Needs more functors, applicatives and monads.
 
What are some other compsci places to apply for internships boston area?
 
you can always sighn up with L0phit
 
user142019
2:43 AM
In both Haskell and C++, lambdas are functors, but the latter means something completely different. :^)
 
@sehe I'd like a programming language named DoPey, actually.
A language who's goal is to get you high as shit.
"WHOOOAA MAAN THE COOooOooOooooOooooooooooode!"
 
@ThePhD it'd be like a mix of "office space" and "Dude , wheres my car?"
anyone seen my red stapler?
 
God...
 
user142019
Allah...
 
Budda....
 
2:47 AM
Yahweeeeeeeeeeh
 
And there we go. Drunk as hell
 
user142019
Me
 
not quite, still working on it
 
Alright, last part of doing this variadic template funstu- OH MY GOD
THAt'S IT
PERFECT FORWARDINg, LIKE HE SAID
Tries that shit out right fucking now.
 
I'm so pathetic when drunk. I awlays want to talk about life and death... Jesus...
 
2:50 AM
@ThePhD I think the code by DeadMG almost did what you wanted. Is this more helpful? stacked-crooked.com/view?id=dddfa1339fccfef9437fd895659ca532 Also, how do I get rid of that warning?
 
I feel sick about myself, but I promised to myself that I would stay here just few minutes. As I said before I would not mind being kicked out by this chat for today. But if there's no one wanting to talk about life and shit I'll just leave you guys alone...
 
@AndreiTita A bit like that, but int is a primitive type and is defined before everything else exists. If you try to do that inside of a class declaration, it vomits.
 
whats this whole book thing?
 
So, I'm attempting to use std::forward<TypeIWant>(args)...
 
teh chats writing a book?
 
2:52 AM
@Cygwinnian, It's gone.
 
Aww, what the hell!
 
wow. that idea was a burnout
 
std::forward<> doesn't accept const T&
 
kinda like me in bed
 
@Cygwinnian, don't really wanna know...
 
2:54 AM
lol
 
Oh God why do I love everyone when drunk?
 
you don't
illusion
 
@sehe, that's obviously it. Love does not exists.
 
s/exists/exist/
heh unintendedly punny
 
@Jeffrey it exists, the problem is everyone has a slightly different definition on what it actually is
 
2:56 AM
could anyone tell me how to correctly convert socketName to a SOCKADDR_IN and then get the sin_addr member? I'm trying to use this: "inet_ntoa(((SOCKADDR_IN)socketName).sin_addr)"
i've used other variants but it keeps thinking i'm trying to create an object of the struct :/
 
Ok I'll tell you something that I would never tell sober: you guys, as programmers, are what I feel closer to me. Therefore I consider you guys so smart, that I think you might give me something to learn about.
 
Haskell
 
@Tuntuni what data type is socketName ?
 
@johnathon SOCKADDR
they're the same size
both mean the same thing
they're padded on purpose
 
I'm all about "respect and shit" with you, but most of the time it's because I don't want to go in trouble. With you it's because I totally respect most of the people that are usually in this chat.
 
2:59 AM
inet_ntoa(((SOCKADDR_IN&)&socketName).sin_addr) <~ try that
 

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