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1:00 AM
Well, I got the feeling that Civ5 is gonna be addictive.
 
@ThePhD #include <iterator> (or any container)
 
Hm.
@StackedCrooked Thanks!
 
Ell
Damn, I'm bored :/
 
user142019
@Ell Learn Haskell!
 
@Ell Eat it
Also play Planetside, it's pretty cool
 
1:01 AM
This is the trick for finding C++ documention. (In combination with custom search engine which is triggered by using cpp as first search term.)
 
It seems liek ideone doesn't support it.
Ah well.
regular old .begin() for me
 
use Coliru or LWS
 
Well, now that I've gotten the hang of std::initializer_list, the next step is to see if I could get rid of the va_args style entirely but keep the same syntax with variadic templates, something like this: ideone.com/0FBoXA
 
@ThePhD it's iterator header lacks it
 
Yeah, I gotta get into the habit of using Coliru
In fact, let me bookmark it.
 
1:05 AM
He has a bookmarklet.. uh
that I can't paste here.
 
Lol
Get owned
 
I'll post on Steam
 
I'm not connected to steam on this computer
 
is that why you always ignore me
sick fuck
CAUGHT RED HANDED. Have fun
 
user142019
> I wish I had autocompletion for speaking, that would be great.
 
user142019
1:08 AM
In a video about Objective-C. XD
 
user1182183
hm is the C syntax highlighting for visual studio 2012 open source or something? I want to use it as a base for my "new language" in VS12
 
VS2012 won't support your new language
 
user1182183
@Rapptz hm?
 
user1182183
Isn't it possible to add languages?
 
No
 
user1182183
1:09 AM
so it's only possible for visual studio 2010.. eh man I don't have 2010
 
I doubt it was possible in 2010 either.
 
user1182183
@Rapptz for 2010 you can make a VSX addon / languag service
 
I'm so confused...
 
user1182183
lookup the Boo or OOK language
 
It's possible if you write your own VS plugin.
BUt that might be more shit than you're willing to handle. :3c
 
user1182183
1:10 AM
@ThePhD I can't find any tuts for VS2012
 
How would it compile and link?
 
Try looking for the VS SDK.
 
user1182183
@ThePhD I just want simple syntax highlighting and in the language I want to implement you only need to run the compiler and supply the main file
 
user1182183
no linking needed
 
Welllll
Good luck with that.
 
1:11 AM
how would it be parsed? or compiled?
 
user1182183
%path_to_compiler%\compiler.exe %path_to_file%/script.pwn
 
Ell
Writing a language is difficult
Oh I see its PAWN?
 
user1182183
I just want to add PAWN language support to VS2012 :/
 
Write a plugin.
 
user1182183
@ThePhD tuts? :D
 
1:12 AM
@ThePhD There's now a bookmarklet in the bottom left corner. You can drag it to your browser's bookmark toolbar.
 
guys
 
Rendering on Firefox is messed up now. Crap.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked why do I only see a blank page while there is source
 
Lulz
Everytime I open Coliru
All I see is the Matrix code me and @Rapptz did, with my

#include <initializer_list>
#include <iostream>
#include <utility>
#include <array>
#include <vector>
// GET OVER IT :3c
using namespace std;
In it, roflmao.
 
@GamErix Why do you see a blank page while there is source?
 
user1182183
1:14 AM
@StackedCrooked right click -> source, source is there many lines
 
user1182183
but a blank page is showing
 
user1182183
IE9..
 
user142019
Y U USE IE
 
lol
How does it feel to have half the world wide web fail on you?
 
user1182183
@Rapptz it's only that page :o
 
1:15 AM
@GamErix I have not yet tested Coliru with IE.
 
user1182183
everything else works
 
@StackedCrooked Who cares it's IE
 
I guess, Firefox or Chrome is assumed..
 
sec lemme open IE and see if I can replicate it
sec it's frozen
 
user1182183
blank page on IE9x64 too
 
1:16 AM
IE ... is only good for a few things.. rendering webpages is not one of those thigns
things*
 
Yeah it's blank here.
 
How does one know how good of a programmer one is?
 
Dynamic HTML.. different story
@Crowz that's such a subjective question its unreal.
 
@Crowz I'm a good programmer. <---- Done.
 
user1182183
gpb.googlecode.com go and look how good I am LOL.
 
user1182183
1:18 AM
nah kidding, don't.
 
Ell
Put it this way: you're not.
 
user1182183
srsly.
 
user1182183
you'll die looking at my code.
 
My dog is scared tonite for some reason, do you think it is the Mayan apocalypse?
 
Okay let's put it this way. A good... chef makes unique and delicious food. Perhaps that's subjective, but everyone knows a good chef.
 
1:18 AM
I killed Alan Turing.
 
There has to be SOME measurement of programming skills
 
Ell
Yeah I guess
 
@CaptainGiraffe nooo.... no you did not.... but anyways
 
@Crowz rep?
 
Ell
Depends if you want coding skills or the whole thing (programmers need to be able to commuhnicare, etc. WTC.)
agh can't type
 
1:19 AM
Lol, guess you don't get the Communication Badge @Ell. :P
 
Ell
And no I'm not high before you ask
 
what do programmers communicate?
 
Ell
Haha
 
I really have no fucking clue how to do this.
Hot damn, I suck.
 
Ell
To other prgrsammers
 
1:20 AM
@Crowz The problem with all of that is there's so many domain specific aspects of any programming related problems today that you really cant measure up anything. And as a note having knowledge on a multitude of domain specific problems in no way makes you a good programmer
 
@Crowz body odors
 
@Crowz Wtf's per minute
 
Clearly, SLoC is the greatest measurement of programming ability.
 
hey.. Compile time!
 
So... a good programmer is just a person who defines himself as a good programmer, to an extent?
 
1:22 AM
The more I scroll, the more impressed I get.
 
As a fairly decent university professor, I can tell you what I expect from my exams. Intro, programming, algorithms, theory
 
@ThePhD when you come back to it a year later and go wtf did i do here...
 
@CaptainGiraffe ooo which university?
 
@Crowz Honestly, to be a good programmer is a person to make things that people actively use and enjoy.
 
user1182183
------ Build started: Project: PawnLanguageVS12, Configuration: Debug Any CPU ------
PawnLanguageVS12 -> z:\profile\rafal\documents\visual studio 2012\Projects\PawnLanguageVS12\PawnLanguageVS12\bin\PawnLanguageVS12.dll
========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
 
user1182183
1:23 AM
well the projects is done.. now just need to add support for the language itself XD
 
@Crowz use your googling skillz
 
I'm too lazy. And hey, I only have 4 more compsci courses until I finish my degree
Thank God
 
After you get that down, then its just making it so that it consumes as little resources as possible and time as possible to complete the task at hand
 
@CaptainGiraffe out of curiosity, out of what material do you teach?
 
@johnathon mostly own material, of course that is a euphemism
 
1:24 AM
in this realm it always is
 
@johnathon But yes, I have created all the material I teach with.
 
@CaptainGiraffe care to share the overview someday with me?
 
@johnathon np all my material is CC
 
Which CC?
 
@CaptainGiraffe Right on, ty.
 
1:26 AM
attribute
 
user1182183
I have to admit russians have good music :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsKmANxo5I&feature=endscreen&NR=1
[NSFW because of the image used in the music]
 
dude what the hell, how does a single C drop 20 credit hours by .5 GPA?
 
Oh lame.
GFDL is bad. Even Wiki updated to CC-BY-SA
 
for instance
 
1:29 AM
@GamErix Music is weak. This is juicier.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked too slow for me :F
 
It took me a while to appreciate that song.
It's actually marvelous.
IMO :D
 
I like this one a bit, actually, though the one @StackedCrooked linked is nice too.
 
user1182183
:)
 
I guess you have heard Tron ost
 
1:32 AM
@ThePhD From a game?
 
youtube.com/watch?v=aHjpOzsQ9YI personally, that's some tight shit.
 
user1182183
well fucking thanks you microsoft visual studio 2012 SDK, I now have BLACK STUDIO because it's only a BLACK window.. with a blue border. oh mighty God, why not a blue screen immediately?!
 
user1182183
FUCK SRSLY, now I hhave no IDE ;/
 
user1182183
:'(
 
user1182183
(at least not a functional one..)
 
1:33 AM
@StackedCrooked Yerp.
 
Does intro level physics require calculus?
 
I like a crapload of Video Game music. Probably more than I should.
@Crowz You can do Physics with just Trig, if someone gives you all the derivations.
 
@Crowz depends on where you take it, some places tri
trig*
 
@ThePhD It's ok. You're not alone.
Although back in my day it was mandatory for c++ programmers to listen exclusively to heavy metal.
 
Hmph. I must take one science course with a lab. What's the easiest?
 
user1182183
does anyone here know how I can reset my settings for visual studio? I mean , I want to try to reset the theme
 
@AndreiTita What i posted, is the equlivilant to heavy metal in dubstep.... chick rocks
 
@johnathon I like it, actually.
 
I started playing GW2 again... that game is fucking beautiful
 
1:36 AM
GW2 is very well done with all that painterly aesthetic
 
user1182183
"the ide will use the most recent settings for this session because the configuration cannot be found" - Fuck you too Visual Studio.
 
Blargha
 
@AndreiTita having a background in music , i can attest, she is wicked with that bo
 
I can't figure this stupid fucking thing out
Fuck you, variadic templates >_<
 
user1182183
Please help anyone :(
 
1:37 AM
Variadic templates are the best!
 
what is "theory of computing"?
 
@ThePhD varidiac templates expand to a parameter pack, Have you read up on examples of using them?
 
@ThePhD Show code.
 
I wanna learn Variadic Templates. Can anyone help me point to a source where I can follow it?
 
I once watched a video by Andrei Alex. on the subject
 
1:43 AM
I don't learn from videos nor do I enjoy watching them for learning purposes. Especially coding.
:(
 
That one is pretty funny
 
lol
 
user1182183
no-one knows how to FIX VS2012? :/ I'm left without the ability to code now!:O :(
 
I usually avoid cplusplus.com so I don't know.
 
1:44 AM
@Rapptz why
?
 
Hm. Couple reasons.
 
@DeadMG I'm trying to essentially loop over all the elements inside a Variadic Parameter Pack. I want to store references to each of the variables in a Variadic Parameter Pack. I am also trying to enforce that they are all of the same type. My code is failing miserably, and I'm pretty sure there's a simple solution but I'm just not understanding it: ideone.com/0FBoXA
Fucking Firefox, stripping out the http://, just because.
 
I have to say I haven't found myself any ONE good resource which would explain everything I needed for my variadic template usage. Although Alexandrescu's video covers the most important stuff.
 
user1182183
 
user1182183
No more coding for me.. :/
 
1:49 AM
 
What'd you do?
 
user1182183
@Rapptz installed VS 2012 SDK...
 
lol
 
@GamErix I blame your GPU.
 
1:49 AM
This tune is quite subtle. (It starts at 35s for the impatient.)
 
Hmm, actually it looks like that wikipedia page was shortened
 
. . .
 
@GamErix nvidia?
 
... It's...
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel sure, ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5470 is a good GPU
 
1:50 AM
... It's that simple...
..... I quit.
 
pro tip
 
user1182183
and VS did work befor I installed the SDK
 
expansion is really not especially intuitive
better off with recursion
 
user1182183
tried cleaning the local and roaming folder and document settings for VS11 but no luck :(
 
Ell
Resinstsal
 
user1182183
1:52 AM
@Ell hopw much does the update weight for VS? (Update 1)
 
Ell
No idea
 
user1182183
ah will try that first
 
What exactly IS 'finite mathematics'?
 
1+2 = 3
finite number.
 
1:55 AM
I'm taking it next semester... I really hope it's that easy
 
I'm kidding.
 
I know
 
@Crowz is finite math == discrete math?
 
At least it will be over after that semester. If you took infinite mathematics, you'd never know...
 
It looks scary on wikipedia
 
user1182183
1:55 AM
@Crowz finite means you'll have a limited amount of homework instead of the usual infinite
 
Yeah chances are it's discrete mathematics
But that has a lot subcategories too.
 
So finite mathematics is about as generic as you can probably be.
What's the course description?
 
So any thoughts on initializer_list?
 
Whoa
Is c9xeo our @Xeo?
 
1:59 AM
yes, he is
 
'Cause if so he corrected Andrescu back in Feb 2012 And got to write code that says "I can't believe it's not butter"!
I would put that shit all over my resume.
"The Butter Incident:"
 
lmao
 

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