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4:00 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes oh ok
 
@TonyTheTiger Yes. Portugal is not known for having the largest salaries :(
 
@RMartinhoFernandes thanks for info
@Als now its your turn to tell the range
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: You are from Europe? The that applies to you or it does not.
 
i am from nepal actually
 
@RMartinhoFernandes damn :( How'd you live on a salary like that? I mean, over here you could barely manage with something like that, and that's not taking into account a car etc
 
4:01 PM
@TonyTheTiger You mean I could I live with that, or how could anyone live with that?
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: Its been a long long years since i was a beginner, so trust me i do not know.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Just anyone really, not being specific
 
@RMartinhoFernandes : that is too much for me
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: The tiger's got expenses you see, love for W's
 
@x4d33746153706c306974 dude, use GOOGLE, that's what it's for
 
4:02 PM
i already did
 
@Als LOL, I wish I had that expense, I have jack shit expenses, apart from my mobile phone.
@x4d33746153706c306974 look harder!
 
@TonyTheTiger I don't really know how others live with that, but we have people living on less. Minimum wage here is 500€.
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: Dude are you from Nepal? You are probably then heading to India, and take a cubicle right besides me!
And darn you would know my age then!
:P
 
Personally, I don't have many expenses, so that's more than enough for me right now.
 
@Als lulz
 
4:03 PM
@Als i wish
lol
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Woah, I had no idea... I mean, perhaps cost of living isn't as high as it is here
Taxes here are rediculous
 
@TonyTheTiger Guess not.
I did the math, and with what I made from these last 8 months I've been working, I could be without a job for about 8 more months.
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: I will suggest a thing, If you are starting as a beginner, for a couple of years think of learning more than what you are earning, once you know stuff, pay follows
 
But most people have a lot more expenses than I do. I'm very frugal.
 
@Als : companies usally asks what did you do in all those z years gap
 
4:06 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Woah, so I guess you're not an excessive spender, like me
 
Als
Well, That is what I said You Learn
 
I always buy shit or travel, lol
 
Als
maybe pay won;t be that great but you learn, pick up a job that teaches you and keeps you updated.
 
this is what happens in Tetris
 
The only vice I spend money on is books.
 
Als
4:06 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Who buys shit? It comes free...No? :P
 
lulz
@RMartinhoFernandes smart man
 
you guyz are so master in c++ that seeing you guyz make me feel like i know nothing
 
But to survive 8 months without a job I'd have to find a good library nearby :)
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: haha East europeans have that funny habit of adding no? at the end of an staetment.
 
@x4d33746153706c306974 dude, I've been in chat for ages, and I still feel like the dumbest one around, so no worries. :)
@Als I'm not east european
 
4:08 PM
I don't know of any Eastern European regulars.
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: I will tell you what, If you are 22, You are at right age to learn and become a master.
@TonyTheTiger: I know You are not ofcourse
lulz, Do you think I am so dumb I wouldn't know after adding you on FB.
uh...Silence?
 
@Als lol, no but perhaps you hadn't check shit out well enough
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: eww...check shit out :P
 
i think the thing about getting older is that you get more pains and illness, and the mind and especially creativity doesn't work well with pain. because it's designed by evolution to incapacitate. keep still, don't think. and so older people have to make do on auto-pilot, so to speak.
 
Stop scaring us kids!
 
Als
4:14 PM
@AlfPSteinbach: Where did that come from?
 
i don't know how mr. hawkings manage
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: how old are you? :P
 
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Q: Run time type information of base and derived classes

DarcaraI'm trying to extend the functionality of some classes that I do not have access to. Basically I'm trying to create a toString/toXML method for logging purposes. I thought of creating a singleton (essentially a map) to which I can register the different functions and have them globally available...

 
@Als 24, it's in my profile.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Uhm..A kid
 
4:15 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes how'd you know all the shit you know, I'm older then you and I'm dumber...
 
@TonyTheTiger I really don't know how to answer that. "I learned it?"
:)
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: He started with B for Bjarne while we were doing B for Ball.
That is the reason.
 
I spend a lot of time around books.
 
Arne Oustrup
oh sorrry old brain goofed up again
:)
 
Als
lulz
 
4:17 PM
I have Asperger Syndrome and I don't have a busy social life :(.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes oh I see
 
Luckily, I'm one of the few with a sense of humour :)
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: his social life is limited to fighting with us here .
 
@RMartinhoFernandes :( I don't have a busy social life either, I have this place
and I occasionally see my friends, when I travel
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Limited to this room :)
 
4:18 PM
else I sit at home and rot
I have a ton of books, but I haven't been reading much of late, perhaps I should
 
Als
I just spend a lot of time at work and then here
 
Als
nothing other than that, I read books in spare time if i get any
 
if I ware to get that job at the game shop, I'd defo start reading up shit again
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: BTW did you decide on the job thingy?
 
4:20 PM
@Als not quite, I'm still waiting to hear from the first place
which would be the one I'd prefer to work at
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: you were supposed to call them, right?
 
@Als Yea I did, she said that they are still busy reviewing my application and they are really just waiting on the techie guys to give the green light
20 more rep and I've reached the 9K mark
woot
:)
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: I see, as i said competition eh
:P
@TonyTheTiger: Oh btw
a[i] = *(a+i)
So you can do a[i]
 
Exactly. I made a comment regarding that.
 
Woo my phone back on
finally got my charger, thank god
0
Q: Access Violation C++

Poka YokeI am new to c++, and I'm facing the Access Violation exception. The problem is as follows, I have backend.h file which contains the struct struct Config { .... }conf; get_conf(); The implementation in backend.cpp Config get_conf() { return conf; } backend.cpp and backend.h are compiled and...

 
Als
4:30 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Go go change that answer before someone downvotes.
 
@Als What answer?
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: grr
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A: C++ debug stack corruption

Tony The TigerThis is UB: p[-2] = 100; You cannot access p with the operator[] in this way because it points to i and i is not an array. To find it you should debug your app and find where it crashes, and hopefully, it'll be at a place where something is actually wrong.

"You cannot access p with the operator[] in this way because it points to i and i is not an array"
Not correct.
a[i] = *(a+i)
So you can do a[i]
 
@Als I edited it, damn nit picky C++ geeks
 
maybe didn't know that someone lost a packet of margarine there
 
4:36 PM
0
Q: c++ mvc framework like jface on java

Peicais there any available library for c++ to let the code has the databing capacity? I want to use the wxwidgets, it is similar with swt on java, which provide a native and cross platform widget framework.

shit like this pisses me off
can't people at least make an attempt to write legible English?
 
Come on, don't be so harsh on non-native speakers.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Okay I edited it further a bit
oh and just so you don't sulk I did a Upvote
Go have your 9k tiger
 
@Als i can show you my manboobs
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: uh Looking at your pic i don't think you have man boobs, a chest perhaps is what might be
:P
 
4:41 PM
How can you tell from his face?
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Isn't one supposed to be a lil on the plump side to have anything that looks like boobs dangling where chest would be?
 
Maybe. That makes sense.
 
Als
uh someone downvoted all answers on
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Q: C++ debug stack corruption

SergeNow I am debugging a large project, which has a stack corruption: the application fails. I would like to know how to find (debug) such stack corruption code with Visual Studio 2010? Here's an example of some code which causes stack problems, how would I find less obvious cases of this type of c...

 
I bet it was @Johannes! ;)
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Is that you?!?!
@RMartinhoFernandes: My first instinct, buy why is the Q then
 
4:44 PM
lol
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: tell me tell me
hmm he will play and won' tell
 
@Als I know, and again no reason WHY? Grrrrr
@JohannesSchaublitb are you trolling?
 
I didn't downvote them WTF
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Goddamn it with you around, We always think its you and then you would unleash something we are remotely and blissfully unaware of
then who is that idiot!
Now that i know its not @JohannesSchaublitb, I got bolder :P
 
4:51 PM
1
Q: Run time type information of base and derived classes

DarcaraI'm trying to extend the functionality of some classes that I do not have access to. Basically I'm trying to create a toString/toXML method for logging purposes. I thought of creating a singleton (essentially a map) to which I can register the different functions and have them globally available...

interesting question, have no idea if that's possible
wtf Google?
 
OK, since now everyone is using the Pro-forma comments extensions (you are, aren't you), I'm sharing my comment "database": pastebin.com/CcwCzv34.
Which apparently is broken in newer versions. Dammit, why did I update.
 
Als
I think i am bored now
 
5:09 PM
why is it every time I come in here, there's links to boobs?
 
Als
Because we were arguing, then we agreed to disagree and talk about boobs instead.
 
lol
 
Als
Oh you might want to see this...
31 mins ago, by Johannes Schaub - litb
@Als i can show you my manboobs
:P lol
 
not really, I'd rather not discuss Johannes's manboobs
 
Als
Yeah, lousy no man boob guy
uh the guy with the longest display name in SO is back again!
 
5:14 PM
lol
 
1 message moved to Sandbox
Oh, nice.
 
Als
 
5:22 PM
@Als you want to see my dance?
 
Als
@x4d33746153706c306974: Not unless you are an dame and a pretty curvy one.
 
Als
Why do you think i would want to see your dance?
 
from the pic
BORED
:)
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Both the hands of the dude in the pic are visible and not around the genitalia, so not pervy.
@x4d33746153706c306974: Uh no, i would rather be bored than see a dude dance.
 
5:26 PM
why do you think non-dames can't dance in a watch-worthy way
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: I have no qualms about dudes dancing I just said I wouldn't fancy seeing a dude dancing.
lol
 
@Als but they show the boner!
 
@JohannesSchaublitb : Not for you
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: I am straight thank you :P
 
5:27 PM
what has sexual orientation to do with enjoying to see someone dancing
isn't it about harmony and rythm with the music?
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Not about dancing, about the boner.
 
This is getting weirder and weirder with every message.
 
@Als then I don't understand what you meant to reply to
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Sure, but I do not want to see a dude dancing even if i am bored. And the straight comment because you said about the boner.
 
WTF
show is over
 
5:29 PM
lol
i'm not getting this
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Why can't you let my preference of not watching a dude dance just be?
 
what has being straight to do with not noticing the boner in that pic
 
Als
You can sure watch @x4d33746153706c306974 dance
 
Because none of you replies to specifc messages, and then you keep two different conversations interlaced, you get confused.
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Uh? Boner in the pic
 
5:30 PM
lol
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Yes, I think you are correct.
 
@Als i am not a fucking prostitute , i was just joking
lol
 
And then this.
 
long weak end :)
 
Als
uhm @x4d33746153706c306974, Why would you offer to dance in the first place i do not know
 
5:32 PM
can't you take a little hint grins
 
@x4d33746153706c306974 So what exactly would a non-fucking prostitute do?
 
I was going to ask that lol
 
Als
uhm hints Looks like I might sometime soon have to file for sexual harassment in SO lounge
 
the same you do
 
damn
Code all day ?
 
Als
5:33 PM
@x4d33746153706c306974: I would advice not to be expletive to people
None used expletives for you except yourself
 
omg i wasn't serious
i hope he didn't mind
 
too late
 
some prostitutes just touch
 
Lawsuite heading your way
 
or do oral services
 
Als
5:35 PM
We need to consult our resident expert in this regard now hola @TonyTheTiger
 
Sometimes it really amazes me the kind you talk with the reputation you have.
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: You seem pretty well experienced
 
@Mahesh Imaginary points have nothing to do with that.
 
Als
@Mahesh: What reputation?
 
5:36 PM
i think he just read a lot of books
 
@Als SO rep
 
@Mahesh that really hurted
grins
 
Als
I do not understand why we idolize people just on one facet of excellence(I doubt SO rep indicates that).
If a person is good at C++ doesn't mean he is good at everything
 
Because we should be excellent to each other!
And party on, dudes!
 
Yeah, everyone has the right to be an idiot
Even if only in some ocasions
 
5:38 PM
@Als - I understand C++ isn't everything. But still
 
i'm going to slowly, over several months, bring this chat back to topic
i shall start by asking: what did President Lyndon B. Johnson ever do for C++?
 
Not really, you won't.
 
Als
@AlfPSteinbach: And what is on-topic?
 
5:39 PM
yes?
 
is there anyway that you can validly override "f" in the following
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: Trick Q! uh no
 
@Als I disagree, I'm excellent at everything!
 
:1387575
 
struct A { private: struct B { }; virtual B f(); }; struct B : A { /* can you validly override A::f ?? */ };
 
Als
5:39 PM
@DeadMG: Of you forgot to flash your genuis badge puppy
 
@JerryCoffin : sorry man i didn't mean to hurt
 
Can youbrwak dance ?
break*
 
you can't override since it isn't virtual.
trick question
bah
 
what if you make A::f public? in C++03 or in C++0x ? what if you can move "B" into a function as a local class having A::f public? in C++03 or in C++0x?
@AlfPSteinbach sorry. fixed
what, if A::f stays private, can you do at all to create a class derived from A that overrides A::f? that is, if you can please B anywhere you want?
 
re your question, don't know. but i used that in the answer i asked you to look at. so maybe i was wrong.
 
5:42 PM
what answer do you mean?
 
I can't remember -.-
 
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A: How to force all derived classes to implement a virtual method?

Alf P. SteinbachIf you control the base class AbstractDep then you can enforce that concrete leaf classes must be created by using a class template WithCloning. This leaf can then be sealed so that it cannot be inherited. Or more precisely, instances cannot be created of a derived class. class AbstractDep { tem...

 
@JerryCoffin : you there?
 
5:50 PM
OK, what did President Lyndon B. Johnson ever do for C++?
@JohannesSchaublitb if f is public then you can bring decltype to bear, can't you? or maybe even that isn't necessary then?
 
ok i think i hurted some great guyz , so i would like to apologize ( but i never meant to hurt anyone's feeling)
 
@AlfPSteinbach good idea
 
so i we all cool?
 
"i" is a verb now?
does it mean applying/appleing or something.
 
the phrase "i we all" refers to some very special composite beings encountered in the Most Epic science fiction book ever, a gang of children on a journey to commit xenocide
 
5:54 PM
ohh
 
and they did it
 
oh it's the "i, we, all"
i didn't notice!
 
i tried to edit but it say i am late
 
@AlfPSteinbach Ender's Game?
 
"you, i, we all" lol
 
5:55 PM
no, although he did xenocide also, and was a child
 
What then?
 
i'm thinking of the two books by the author i don't remember
first book told story of destruction of earth
the second about the revenge, or Upholding the Law
 
Come on, you said "the Most Epic science fiction book ever". You can't not remember.
 
they travelled in a Ship of Law, which at the very end decided to commit suicide
it's true my brain is mush
 
The Forge of God is a 1987 science fiction novel by American writer Greg Bear. Earth faces destruction when an inscrutable and overwhelming alien form of life attacks. The Forge of God was nominated for the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1987, and was also nominated for the Hugo and Locus Awards in 1988. Plot The novel features scenes and events including the discovery of a near-dead alien in the desert, who clearly says in English, "I'm sorry, but there is bad news," and this alien's subsequent interrogation and autopsy; the discovery of an artificial geological formation and its sub...
This?
 
5:57 PM
yes, the next one
i think there was probably a similar composite being thing with "i we us" in Brin's uplift series
 
Gosh, there are too many classics. I can't catch up with them all and still get my hands on the newer stuff.
 
and in both cases, these beings stink of turpentine when they're scared
so where did the authors get so similar ideas?
 

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