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1:02 PM
That's painful.
(The Daily WTF should get treatment like xkcd.)
public bool SettingStorePriceChangesStoreProductPriceAndUpdatesProductPriceAndUpdatesProduct‌​ModifiedTimestampButDoesNotModifyAProductThatHasNonDefaultPricingAlready
*Shudder*
 
Lol
Sexy variable name.
 
You have a weird concept of sexiness.
 
Anything that sends a shiver down my spine and the feeling of bile in my stomach.
 
I don't know if that's masochistic or just plain weird.
 
1:19 PM
Why can't it be both?
 
Als
fcuk! I am stuck at work :(
 
how so @Als?
 
Als
I put in a fix for someone else's code, got it sanity tested with one of the testers and then checked it in, and then the same tester picks up the svn version for testing and says its not working!
I asked the person to take a previous version of the application and check with that, and that does not work either, apparantly ,his development platform(TI board) has some problem and now i missed my bus, i can take a bus only 45mins later.
 
oh damn
 
Sucks.
 
1:31 PM
meanwhile you can chat on here
lol
 
If it makes you feel any better, I scrambled to make a C++ "script" for superuser.com/questions/331098/notepad-flip-line-order but got rejected.
 
Als
yeah damn! :( If people don't know how to use equipment they should not be given any.
Yeah thats what i will do now, be here, chat and collect some rep :P
 
Why is iwconfig in /sbin? o_O
 
@Maxpm you mean instead of /usr/sbin ?
 
I don't see how it's required for bootstrapping.
@kbok Mmhmm.
 
Als
1:34 PM
hmm
 
On a linux system ? weird. Anyway, this / / /usr separation is useless now.
 
I guess I'll ask on AskUbuntu or something.
 
> Thanks for your comment, but I'm looking for help on this particular matter. I know that grabbing code and tweaking isn't the best way, but I'm hoping that someone can give me an example on how to do it based on the code I already have or point me to a specific approach to do what I need.
> Most of the people who offer their help are professionals or semi-professionals in programming, I'am neither. I don't want to seem lazy but I don't have the time and resources to learn C++ from scratch so I would appreciate any help with this. Sorry for wasting your time. – ner0 8 mins ago
 
Why shouldn't it be in /sbin?
 
Als
hmm makes sense, we wouldn't know why it is there, we might just know it is there.
 
1:36 PM
ifconfig is put there, too.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Link?
 
Edited in.
 
@CatPlusPlus It depends on the distrib.
 
Als
Hello @JerryCoffin, How are you today?
 
> /sbin contains binaries essential for booting, restoring, recovering, and/or repairing the system in addition to the binaries in /bin. [18]
From FHS.
 
1:38 PM
Network configuration is certainly essential.
 
> The following files, or symbolic links to files, must be in /sbin if the corresponding subsystem is installed:
> ifconfig Configure a network interface (optional)
 
> This answer is wrong. The performance/write-to-disk aspects do not differ in the way you think they do. – R.. 56
 
So why not iwconfig.
 
I hate comments like this, why don't people then say WHAT is wrong about it, instead of just saying it's wrong
 
I don't get the "ifconfig must be in /sbin (optional)".
 
1:39 PM
meh
 
It must be there if it's installed, but it doesn't have to be installed.
 
@TonyTheTiger R.. is a smart guy, I expect he knows what he's talking about.
 
@CatPlusPlus I see.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: lol atleast someone left you some comment :P
 
If you ask him, I'm sure he'll tell you.
 
1:40 PM
E.g. /sbin/shutdown is required to be there always.
 
Als
They just love to downvote me that is reason enough for downvotes.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Sure he knows, but he should also explain why this answer is wrong.
 
Als
@kbok: Not officially
 
@kbok Maybe it's too complicated to put in a comment.
 
Als
So policy does not mandate leaving a comment for downvoting
 
1:41 PM
Performance issues usually are.
 
@Als there was no downvote afaik
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: really?
@TonyTheTiger: uhm okay, lucky you eh
 
point is I'd like to learn what is wrong, but if he doesn't leave a link or say what is wrong, how the hell can I learn from it
 
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Q: Why is iwconfig in /sbin?

MaxpmMy Ubuntu boot has iwconfig living in /sbin. I was under the impression that /sbin is usually for programs that are required for bootstrapping, or at least need to be available before /usr is mounted. I don't really see how iwconfig fits either of these conventions, though. What's the rationale?

 
@Als I don't know because I don't know what's wrong. I'm inferring from what I've seen of R.. and from the nature of the comment that it probably isn't a simple matter.
 
1:43 PM
@Als I'm not stating that any internet or SO rules mandates him with explaining why it's wrong. But I agree with @TonyTheTiger on the fact that it would be nice to know why. I'm curious.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Well the whole point is not everyone here is for learning or helping people learn, some people just want to show their inteliigence or abilities by making such qwert comments.
 
@Als if you do that then fuck you!
 
Als
@kbok: I am infact saying if you downvote you should justify Why?
@TonyTheTiger: huh? me?
 
@Als no not you, if someone does what you said, then f**** the person that does that
 
@Als qwert comments ? Like the keyboards ? :)
 
1:45 PM
lulz
 
@TonyTheTiger Dereferencing is a prefix operator, so that would be ***k.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: ah, better, see how this looks
1 min ago, by Tony The Tiger
@Als if you do that then fuck you!
grr...@TonyTheTiger: dont fcuk me!
:P
 
26 secs ago, by Als
1 min ago, by Tony The Tiger
@Als if you do that then fuck you!
 
I know, was wrong in more then one way, but yea...
 
hey, people, fuck off
 
1:46 PM
7 secs ago, by FredOverflow
26 secs ago, by Als
1 min ago, by Tony The Tiger
@Als if you do that then fuck you!
 
@Als Uh, what do you mean by "Not officially" then ?
 
WTF is going on?
 
Is f**** a four-star derivative of f?
 
1:46 PM
14 secs ago, by FredOverflow
7 secs ago, by FredOverflow
26 secs ago, by Als
1 min ago, by Tony The Tiger
@Als if you do that then fuck you!
 
How do you quote? o_O
 
Stop it, dammit!
You're ruining my jokes!
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fuck this ^
@CatPlusPlus lulz
 
#define fuck return*
fuck this;
 
@CatPlusPlus perhaps...
 
1:47 PM
Is www.funtoo.org throwing "bad gateway" errors for anyone else?
 
@CatPlusPlus It's a pointer to a pointer to a pointer to a pointer to a f.
 
oh i'm going out for dinner. i just had dinner (sliced turkey) downtown, so now i'm going upward, to a nice cafe. is it forbidden to have 2 dinners on same day, within hours?
 
Als
Geez stop fcuking me!
 
oh why is there always some geeky C++ joke in this chat
damnit
@Maxpm yep
 
Working on kernels affects your web development skills, I imagine. :P
 
1:48 PM
i'm thinking something light, like fajitas
 
@AlfPSteinbach People usually have problem with eating two meals in two hours. If you can do that, you're lucky :)
 
@AlfPSteinbach talking about eating doesn't satisfy your hunger, JUST GO EAT, damnit
 
yea yea doing
:)
 
1:50 PM
NP: Sepultura - Hungry for the std::future
 
What, exactly, is firmware? Is it just an embedded system, or do I have it backwards?
The Wikipedia article isn't very specific.
 
It's a ware in firm.
It's just a piece of software embedded into a device. BIOS is a firmware.
 
How does that differ from embedded systems, then?
Synthetic biology is a new area of biological research that combines science and engineering. It encompasses a variety of different approaches, methodologies and disciplines, and many different definitions exist. What they all have in common, however, is that they see synthetic biology as the design and construction of new biological functions and systems not found in nature. [[File:UT HelloWorld.jpg|thumb|right|A light programmable biofilm made by the UT Austin / UCSF team during the 2004 [http://parts.mit.edu/r/parts/htdocs/SBC04/index.cgi Synthetic Biology competition], displaying "Hel...
 
@Maxpm The term "embedded system" also refer to the electronic part.
 
Pfft, the picture.
@kbok Ah, I see.
 
1:54 PM
Hey, I have found a new job.
No, wait : I have found a job.
 
@kbok Oh?
 
@Maxpm Hmmhmm.
The interviews nearly took 5 hours.
 
I love having a job where I get to experiment on my boss
 
@awoodland What do you experiment on your boss?
 
1:57 PM
HCI things
 
One IP for a whole country, wow.
 
he's quite a good victim for pilot studies
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh my.
 
IP addresses can be by in the same way as registered users are. IP blocks can be more powerful and effective, but also have additional ramifications. Policies Sensitive IP addresses Sensitive due to public relations implications If you block an IP address in any of the following ranges, you are required to immediately notify the . These ranges are allocated to major governmental organizations and blocks of these organizations have political and public relations implications that must be managed by the Foundation's press relations team. Avoid long blocks of these addresses and be es...
oh interesting IP addresses to have, lulz
 
I've always wanted to try the Turing test on my friends.
 
2:01 PM
> Wikipedia's policy on defamation is to immediately delete libelous material when it has been identified.
I don't believe a word of it
 
You know of an example of defamation that was allowed to stay [citation needed]?
 
Markdown doesn't support superscript, does it?
 
Not here in chat.
 
just curious but and it doesnt have to do with C++. But has anyone else noticed the excessive flagging going on in StackOverflow
 
On the site, or here in chat?
 
2:10 PM
@JohnHartsock No...?
 
On the site. I noticed over 150 flags this morning and many are just wrong or invalid
 
Oh, that's normal :(
Ok, 150 is not normal, but many wrong or invalid, that's normal.
 
well it seems like someone is just going crazy with the flagging
 
@JohnHartsock - do you see who flags are from as well as what they were raised against?
 
No, flags are anonymous.
 
2:19 PM
Everyone wants flag weight badges.
 
Oh, then this will last a while. They're hard to get.
 
Want? Wants? I'm not sure.
 
Flag weight increases are sub-linear after 500 I think.
 
I'll be happy if I ever get Epic.
 
I'm 30 rep caps away!
 
2:20 PM
There's also a badge for 500 weight.
 
I have that one (without making explicit effort for it).
"Marshal", for 750 will be considerably harder.
 
750 is probably pretty much impossible.
 
You guys knew that Neil is gone again?
> I promise not to be back a second time!
 
2:29 PM
lol
 
Drama.
Might as well change the profile description to "PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE".
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, I know. However: "seen: yesterday."
 
@sbi Last "write" activity was on June 15th though.
 
Who's Neil?
 
So, he's a lurker now.
This is cool!
 
2:37 PM
> it seems to bring out the worst in me
What is he talking about ?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Where's that from??
@Maxpm Neil Butterworth, once a user with very high reputation in the c and c++ tags, but a very bad temper sometimes. /@kbok
 
Ooh, him.
 
@sbi The "Close as exact duplicate" window.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Huh? Lemme try...
 
@sbi I saw him here sometimes, he was kinda nice
 
2:39 PM
Yeah, that window used to bug me.
Had to search for the question in a separate tab.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes - I know exactly which question that was from :)
 
meh, Neil gone again, wonder what set him off this time?
 
Ladies, let's not gossip now.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, I can see that, too. Nice feature, although 7 question seems a bit meager.
@Maxpm Why do you think this room is called a "lounge"?
 
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Q: Coding this story in c++

Joe Your program should first ask for three inputs from the user and then tell the user a story of the Lost Fortune according to the user's inputs. A sample running results/ outputs of this lab is as follows, Welcome to Lost Fortune Please enter the following for your personalized adven...

waoh, how many downvotes can one amass?
it's questions like this I guess that annoy the high rep users of SO
 
2:43 PM
@sbi Because programmers don't actually do any real work?
 
cause there's just no point, I mean, this isn't a place where we do people's homework
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes And 5 out of 7 suggested questions are C++ FAQ entries, three of which were written explicitly for the FAQ. If this isn't a success story for the FAQ idea!
 
@Maxpm I don't do any work, but got no job either. :P
 
I'm not sure whether or not I want other people's votes to influence my own.
I mean, normally I'd downvote that, too. But I think he gets the picture.
After a certain point, it's just pointless to throw more into the fire.
 
@sbi Exactly my thoughts!
@TonyTheTiger Great. Now that I was gonna link him to How to Write the Perfect Question, the post got deleted.
 
2:46 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes hehe lol :P
how does one differentiate between overloading operator* (scalar) and operator* (for pointers) ?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I had this comment done: "Most of us here are professional programmers. If you ever make it through your studies (with that attitude), you are quite likely to end up as the fellow-worker of a SO user. So we better not help you avoiding to learn something until then."
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Really, I should save this. It will come in handy.
 
sure will
saved, for a while at least
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Whaddayamean?
 
@TonyTheTiger That's a good question. I wonder if it uses a dummy parameter, like the suffix ++ operator.
@sbi Like Foo* FooPointer; versus Bar = Foo1 * Foo2;.
 
@Maxpm yes that
 
sbi
2:49 PM
@Maxpm That first usage of the token * is not an operator. (It's a type modifier.)
 
@sbi Do you know of the "Pro-forma comments" stackapp?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes No. What is it?
 
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Q: Pro-forma comments

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments, which you can easily click to insert. Features 1. Read your comment before you post it! Note th...

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Wow
I can't believe I didn't know that one
 
It's awesome.
 
sbi
2:51 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes So how does one use these things? (I have the latest FF, if that makes a difference.)
 
@sbi With FF you need GreaseMonkey installed.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Ok, so I install GreaseMonkey. (I heard of that before, only never tried it.) And then?
 
@TonyTheTiger I don't think you can overload it. operator*() is for dereferencing, i.e. *Foo.
Chromium natively supports GreaseMonkey scripts, I believe.
 
@sbi Then you just click the appropriate link in that post, and it asks you for permission. Say "yes" and you're done.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes installed :)
 
sbi
2:53 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Ok, thanks, I'll try that. I have installed GreaseMonkey, but I won't restart my browser now, so it will have to wait.
 
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Q: Error in overloading operator *

jepessenI've a little problem with the overloading of an operator. I've a class named AtmospheridData, in which I define the operator *. In the header I define this method inside the class: //! Operator * (scalar) AtmosphericData operator*(const qreal& qrMult) const; and the definition, in the .c...

 
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Q: Official keyboard shortcuts

balpha Screenshot About This is the official keyboard shortcuts script for the Stack Exchange sites, as announced on Meta Stack Overflow. It is still in active development, and will eventually move from being a user script to being a full-blown (optional) feature when it is ready for that. Do...

 
I don't get that error: no match for ‘operator*’ in ‘3 * AtmosphericData::operator-(const AtmosphericData&) const(((const AtmosphericData&)((const AtmosphericData*)(& y1))))’ error.
 
neither do I get that error, but since this question has been answered, I didn't bother any further
 
@kbok That's GCC being dumb.
You get trained for it after a while.
 
2:56 PM
OK, so the error should just be read as "no operator for 3 * other stuff" ?
 
@kbok Yeah, that's what my brain parses.
 
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Q: Where can I find the reputation black market?

Steffen OpelApparently there is one around, at least I can't explain the recent jump in reputation of 4k for user 1026 by any other means (just kidding of course, no offense please ;) The API Beta badge accounts for +2k rep but the API Evangelist one is absent, so the +4k rep in place now (additional even, ...

a black market for rep?
cool, I wanna buy some, lol
 
You want? I thought you were a decent person :(
 
only to the degree that being decent is advantageous to me :P
lulz
 

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