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1:00 PM
Okay, I think my roomba forecast script is working...
 
o/ morning all
 
o/ First
 
Hiya first
 
Hiya first
 
How are you guys today. Almost the weekend "pff"
 
1:06 PM
Hiya
 
@Drew You need to get to gold badge stop deleting your stuff : )
 
@PetterFriberg not mysql plus over 60 days no? 90 days
Remember we are to check out dupe answers
 
@FirstStep Not so sure. He is looking for a "standard" container so IMHO that is not a resource request.
 
aah ok smart little rat :D, yeah I deleted some stuff to
 
@NathanOliver well it got closed by other users - not from this room
 
1:10 PM
that it did
 
deleted by OP, that's sad
 
yesterday, by Tunaki
If y'all want to review your answers to duplicate questions, hit this SEDE
 
@FirstStep All of those users are in the room except maybe 1.
 
@NathanOliver Really? So I can feel bad now. Ops..
 
No you do not have to feel bad. I was just expressing my opinion on the cv-pls.
I do not feel string enough to reopen. just bringing up my point of view.
 
1:13 PM
It was not my best morning btw.. I am here sitting on my desk with my upper tank only.. splitted all my Large Double Double coffee on my shirt :D I am about to go and buy some polo for the day
 
Bummer
 
@Timothy You are pointing to the question he asked before, correct?, can't really see that they are the same, but then again I'm not an expert in that matter.
 
They look at least 60% similar plus the guy seemed not to incorp the code Timothy gave him (and accepted T's answer)
 
meeh I'm java can't really judge, better that @Rizier123 checks if he have time
 
bye all
 
1:20 PM
@Machavity @FélixGagnon-Grenier @PraveenKumar can you check out the Timothy dupe above
 
o/ @ColdFire
 
@PetterFriberg I swear they ask a question, then close their laptop, and go to the beach link
 
@Drew and the next time they need something, they create a new account and repeat
 
true that
that's why I almost never answer a question for under rep 20
 
@Drew lol, I love your new edit's style, but yeah true, I did the same first question... I posted then I carried on with work and checked back later...
Still can't understand how user is allowed to post 3 spam answer, after first nuke there should be a timeout...
 
1:29 PM
@PetterFriberg User for 6 months.
 
@PetterFriberg not so much a timeout, as just their posts being silently discarded...
otherwise they're just gonna make a new acc
 
@BhargavRao A mod has nuked 'em
 
@JonClements :D
 
@JonClements And IP Banned them ;)
 
and send some ninja puppy to make a house call
 
1:32 PM
And dispatched a SWAT team to their last known location :)
ah well
beat me to it :P
 
Wordbuilding.se
 
@PetterFriberg He is trying to do the exact some thing, in both questions. He wants to load a view into a template, but he is mixing up his view methods. :)
 
@Timothy ok, thanks for clarification we have ping gold holders in php, they will make the judgement call on this since they can single handily close the question.. I'm just a poor java guy....
 
wow, I still have the permission :D
 
;o
o;
 
1:41 PM
Can any android person confirm if this's an answer stackoverflow.com/a/39471571/4099593?
 
@BhargavRao Either NAA or VLQ :S
 
@BhargavRao s/android person/friend/ :P
 
Thats shiet.
 
@Siguza I usually say, android guys, can you confirm. But as today is offending tuesday, I used person ;)
 
@PetterFriberg Ahaa yeah, next time I'll add the PHP tag :)
 
1:45 PM
@BhargavRao still, "pls mi androyd freinds, plz confurm" would've suited it way better :P
 
Haha, K. The next time I'll do that.
 
@Timothy add and watch the C++ mob going nuts :P
 
Great tip. Lets start a rumble!
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 mins ago, by SmokeDetector
@Siguza: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.
 
morning!
 
1:50 PM
Hiya gunr
 
Aloha
 
@ArtOfCode thanks, I guess it's a good idea to see what's changed since '15...
 
Hiya Gunr
 
yo
woot tuesday
 
Editing a post from a mod feels so weird :p
 
1:53 PM
so what is left for godaddy?
 
The other word that rhymes with godaddy is banned here, Right?
 
@BhargavRao What rhymes with godaddy? ô.o
 
Something that's banned here
 
Say it and I'll give you an answer, just let be put my shoes on first. (I actually don't know what word you're talking about)
 
Here as in the SOCVR room?
Or here as in SO in general?
gomaddy? gopaddy? gobaddy?
SO-daddy?
RO-daddy?
 
1:59 PM
oh
yeah, I got it
no, that's banned
 
I don't :|
 
that's a good thing
 
Where's it banned?
Here in the SOCVR-room?
 
here, it's an insult to me
 
o.o?
Now I'm even more confused :|
 
2:00 PM
Feb 12 at 13:20, by gunr2171
but yeah, I would appreciate it if people would stop calling me g-daddy
 
@Seth Yo, laddy?
 
Lawl.
@gunr2171 Okay :D Thanks for clearification :]
 
@gunr2171 Ah, That. Good to know that it's not banned :D
 
reaches for boots
 
2:02 PM
Here, have some steel toecaps.
 
Puts finger to lip
 
Oh, it's not banned? O_O
 
> no (you can't say that), that's banned (because I don't want people calling me it)
 
@Siguza You can down vote based on quality. You cannot down vote just to feed the roomba.
 
I wouldn't have used that name anyway :p
^^this
 
2:03 PM
However, I can delete-vote the question.
 
The answer is pretty bad though, close to link-only.
My first answer that I ever posted on SO was actually a link-only answer :| And got deleted by animuson within 2 minutes.
 
Just remember, don't downvote an answer because of its question
 
> Did you had a look into je@kyll?
 
Don't downvote an answer based on anything but its quality.
 
@Seth that's unlucky
 
2:05 PM
Another fan of Kyll
 
Whoa, @Tushar, your icon changed.
 
Yesterday
I changed it :)
 
Who are you, and what did you do with our Tushar?!
 
@gunr2171 I got the chance to edit it & it got undeleted later on :) And I got the bounty (which is why I answered the question in the first place).
 
:D
 
2:05 PM
woot!
 
@Cerbrus I Kyll him
 
I'm pretty sure "kyll" is not a verb. Kyll doesn't do anything.
10
 
@Tushar You monster!
 
morning JAL
 
JAL
Hello!
 
2:11 PM
JAL Sup!
 
Hiya JAL
 
@gunr2171 Wait wat!? We can't just throw him into walls Sonic Hedgehog style!?
 
:)
 
Oh boy.
 
JAL
lol
 
2:11 PM
@kayess nope
 
Sorry @gunr2171, you have to be strong now.
 
@gunr2171 hat plz
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
Lmao.
 
for the record, I'm inviting Siyual here. He commented on the last smokey report post with what seems like an auto comment that said "flag for spam". While it is an auto comment, and the rest of the content is valid, the post wasn't spam and I don't want others to flag incorrectly.
 
2:14 PM
@gunr2171 k?
 
just in case he shows up and I'm not around
 
The up................?
 
yeah
 
OK
Should have been rude/abusive or NAA orVLQ
 
@NathanOliver that sounds rather ambiguous... which one should it be?
 
2:16 PM
Well IMHO any of those flags are valid
argh. made mistake in edit and can't edit anymore :(
 
JAL
@JonClements depending on which way the sun is pointing that day :)
 
well - if it's genuinely rude/abusive it should be raised as that... if it's NAA/VLQ that's another thing
 
JAL
garbage should be abusive IMO but some people flag as NAA/VLQ
same with link only answers, people have widely different beliefs
 
Well the guidance from meta is since it is just trash from a 1 rep user you can nuke it with rude/abusive to get rid of it. However if you are not comfortable with that than NAA or VLQ are also valid.
 
JAL
yeah that's what I meant
 
2:19 PM
Spam/rude/abusive go to the top of the mod queue... we'll quickly deal with those
just don't forget that VLQ/NAA go into queues
 
stackoverflow.com/revisions/2739441/3 Now quickly run and hide! :P
 
if the community doesn't handle them in an hour - it goes into the mod queue
 
@gunr2171 Sorry for the incorrect flag - though, I'm a bit confused as to what an answer like that should be flagged as (the mostly gibberish/nonsense text answers) if not Spam.
 
funny enough, we are discussing that now
 
I don't. I just always have that in my fall back in guidance to users new to flagging. Some people are just not sure and do not want to pull out the WMDs.
 
2:21 PM
@Cerbrus Psst
What do I do here? I'm torn apart between being polite & de-escalating and my love for rants :[
 
@Siyual no problem though, thanks
 
@Seth Personally I would remove it.
 
@NathanOliver Mhm.. I think I will edit it a bit, to make it less ranty. :) The intro, I mean.
 
Also this post about what do to for gibberish meta.stackexchange.com/a/115629/213671
 
2:23 PM
Could very well be that the author just skipped the rest of the answer after reading that intro.
 
Yep. IMHO you do not need it. It really doesn't add anything to the answer
 
Oh boy...
Havent seen Kevin in a long while o.o
What happened to him?
 
Ah, gotcha - thanks! Those types of posts have always been tricky for which to flag it as. Would be easier if there was a specific flag for it, but I don't seem to see those often enough for its own flag.
 
@Siyual my rule is if 1 rep user (no posts) and gibberish go for abuse, otherwise NAA
 
2:25 PM
True, that's why my linked meta post was asking for - a specific flag. It was declined because existing flags do fit the role, even if it's not "to the letter"
 
I forget, is this even an answer: stackoverflow.com/a/39468091
"Sure you can, do what these guys did"
 
it's the "just good enough to not be flagged" answer
 
It's still a link-only answer, though.
 
@Drew Jon'e
 
@Siyual take a look at this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/225370/…, the "And all those other answers with links in them" section of the post
 
2:28 PM
shat I could answer all day long that lame way
 
you could, but you wouldn't get a lot of upvotes or kind words from the community
 
@gunr2171 If he'd even get words looks at gunr's shoes ...
 
@Drew I even have a bot that can help ya out with that : )
 
afk for a bit
 
@gunr2171 Can we use the G-word now? ô.ô
Why would he do that? :S
 
2:35 PM
@Seth please don't test me
 
@gunr2171 Hehehe :)
@Magisch You traitor :(
 
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@dorukayhan I will no longer ping you if I report a post on stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
Tim Post made an answer on that meta Q about gender. My takeaway
> (frankly, php could use all the help it can get)
;)
 
PHP always needs help.
Everything that has to do with PHP needs (professional) help :p
And everyone :3
 
2:44 PM
@NathanOliver Just edited a Q&A into a new PHP canonical: stackoverflow.com/q/2739441/3933332 :P
 
@Rizier123 Looks at the author ... Hmmmmm.
Nice job though :D
 
@Seth I will tell you if I get a mod message :p (It already has 20 linked dupes!)
 
@Rizier123 Nice! :p
Keep me updated ^.^
 
@Seth So you say that @Rizier123 now needs urgent help ?:p
 
@Rizier123 twilight zone music playing
 
2:47 PM
I flagged a comment from a mod on that Q/A as "too chatty", and it instantly disappeared o.0
 
@kayess He has a golden php badge... Either he'll be fine or he won't >.< Noone can help him anymore, he's on his own now...
@Adriaan xD
 
This is just sad. Especially when you see the user name.
 
@NathanOliver Wow :)
That makes me sad.
 
@Adriaan I had already flagged that.
 
2:54 PM
@Adriaan That thanks under the answer? xD
 
@NathanOliver Now you make me feel bad and I didn't even down voted the question.
 
@Rizier123 yes
 
success, make everyone as sad as me ;)
 
SOCVR: we put the emo to your emotions
 
@NathanOliver You failed, tuna is still ahead of you :c
I'm sure he upvoted a duplicate by now, knowing that it is a duplicate :|
 
2:56 PM
@NathanOliver Actually the saddest thing is that person didn't get the chance to improve the question. And 13 downvotes is IMO way too much...
 
@DalijaPrasnikar reminds me of the meta Q "why SO is so negative of late"
 
@DalijaPrasnikar One could argue that reading the "How to ask"-section could have prevented this :|
But people nowadays seem to be allergic to reading.
 
@Seth Absolutely.
 
@DalijaPrasnikar I agree that 13 is excessive but the OP also needs to do some work before hitting the post button.
 
@NathanOliver Sure, but after 13 downvotes and deleted question, will he be able to do it or can just open another account and dump another bad question...
 
3:01 PM
@DalijaPrasnikar He should not be banned for one bad question. But nothing stops them from using a new account. Hopefully they will learn from this.
 
Hello
I think that there are who make me a target
 
@Sami huh?
 
Hi @Sami What seems to be your issue?
 
I see that my reputation continues to drop in few mn
 
@Sami If you go to this do you see a bunch of down votes for today?
 
3:07 PM
@Sami the only loss you have sustained was a -10 on 8 August, when a user was removed, who presumably upvoted an answer of yours.
 
@NathanOliver There is longish discussion about SO on G+ Delphi Developers. plus.google.com/u/0/100586805595297623854/posts/Zu6advqcQVu It seems that learning about how SO works and what it is about is beyond some people.
 
Okey , i just tell to tak a lock if there is who make me a target
 
@Sami can you rephrase that in an understandable way?
 
@Sami You will not be able to see who is voting but you will see if you are getting down voted.
 
@NathanOliver which has not occurred up to now
 
3:10 PM
This happen in 2 mn
 
Would there be some reason I am locked out of answering this question but none others (the one mentioned earlier)? stackoverflow.com/questions/39467932
 
@Sami will this happen in two minutes?
 
this why make me think like this
 
@Sami Were you down voting any answers?
@Drew Do you not see the post answer or does it error out?
 
@Drew heh you can't answer?
 
3:11 PM
Yeah in 2 mn from 301 rep to 289 rep now
 
it has a box but the header stuff for the box is like all disabled like a dwarf planet answer area for me
 
@Sami 301 to 299 would be more likely, as you have downvoted 2 posts in total. If those two were answers, they both cost you 1 reputation
if you click the "reputation changes" button (the one with vertical bars) on the main SO page, you see which posts that were
 
@Drew maybe the edit script it does that sometimes for me...
 
including the -1 rep you got from downvoting an answer
 
vbut I hit the keyboard and it get enabled..
 
3:12 PM
@NathanOliver I think i downvote one in the morning
 
@Drew Might be just you. I posted a test and deleted it without a problem.
 
@Sami downvoting an answer costs you 1 reputation
 
it came back to life
 
user4639281
@drew you using so dark?
 
of course #1 script sir
 
user4639281
3:14 PM
that's a known issue
 
@Adriaan im note downvoting now its in the morning
 
Hmm. Not sure. Maybe my posting of an answer fixed some bad state.
 
& my rep down now
 
user4639281
When using SO Dark, for some reason (I haven't looked into it yet), sometimes the answer box toolbar will be empty
 
See my profile
 
3:15 PM
@Sami There are some things we cannot see in your profile. For instance any reputation you may have lost due to downvotes you made on answers is invisible to us because votes are anonymous.
 
@Sami The only think I can think of for your loss of rep is you had edits on questions that were deleted when a script ran. When that happens the rep just disappears and is treated like it never existed. We would need a mod or dev to confirm.
 
ok thx Tiny first time I saw that
 
Note: No one is targeting you we would have seen that, do not worry so much about the repz.
 
@NathanOliver @Adriaan Thank you
 
@Sami welcome
 
3:17 PM
no problem
 
1 sec
 
2 sec
 
user4639281
3 sec
 
 
3:18 PM
@PetterFriberg I know it is fun to be funny but when dealing with a new user to the room that is having a problem lets try and keep it professional. We do not need added confusion.
cc @TinyGiant
@Sami What are you trying to show there?
 
I earn 136 rep in this day , when i logged in see 301 rep , suddenly 289 rep
Association bonus
 
Like I said it could have been edits that were removed. Those do not show up. The rep just disappears. As far as we can see no one is targeting you.
 
Thank you
Beye.
 
You welcome. Take care.
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg repz
 
3:31 PM
woot
 
@Magisch Why did you abandon the spearrels?
 
It was always supposed to be a temporary thing
additionally, I change avatars when I feel like it
 
:D I thought maybe Kyll bit you ;)
 
@Timothy you see the comment from Felix on that Q ?
 
@Magisch AAAH YOUR ARE SO BEAUTIFUL
That's our Magisch
 
3:38 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis taking on the skeet are ya ?
 
Somebody has to, he's outta control!!!1
 
could you imagine being a panel of guys interviewing him for a job
I'd just jump out the window
 
Mod flags do not age away correct?
 
user4639281
No they do not
 
Can someone link me the userscripts repo?
 
ta
 
@Drew Yeah, I guess you need to understand the Phalcon framework to see the problem here :(
 
yeah and we are rather ignorant of it
 
@Drew Doesn't look like a dupe
 
3:56 PM
If you want I can explain the problem
 
That is the best we can do, ... we pointed 4 PHP guru's at it (I just play one on TV)
 
@Timothy try to convince one of the php guys...
 
@PetterFriberg Mach is here
 
heyyo
 
Yeah I see and I also see "If you want I can explain the problem" just spell it out (if not too long)
 
3:59 PM
@Timothy or if it is too long, you can type it up in the Campaigns room and we can look at it
 
@Drew I'll finish my work here, then I'll try to write smt up !
 
as always i was expecting some drama while i was away , nice :P
 
@sd remove
I keep rolling back ^ and OP keeps editing (removing all and adding "_iiii ii ii ii ii ii _" instead
 
Were going to need a mod
 
4:04 PM
this feels as abuse stackoverflow.com/a/39474418/5292302 am I to hipster?
 
set of delete candidates, please go through them and vote as you think is appropriate gist.github.com/sotodel/c796d8c7e8b0b9a569cb51e8dd60d9de
 
@PetterFriberg flagged as not an answer
 
yeah I made a judgement call on that, unreg user, noob is offensive
 
@PetterFriberg They have another answer which is worse as well
 
4:06 PM
kill'em all
@NathanOliver user nuked
^^ needs >20K
 
^ Why
 
too new, not for noobs like us.. : )
 
why?
 
10k users can't delete something that's been closed for less than 48 hours or something like that
but 20k users can vote to delete questions as soon as they're closed
 
and have score <-3
@SotiriosDelimanolis ping me in a few days all new questions : )
 
4:17 PM
got it @PetterFriberg
 
meeh found 1 or 2
 
^ I went with unclear
 
@Drew probably, my solution would have been to use ajax and it will not be narrow...
 
good luck detecting the page is closed for that guy
 
4:24 PM
you send pings by ajax to your application, if pings stop you know it's not connected anymore... but it is getting fairly broad
 
@PetterFriberg even with ajax, if the browser goes away, what is there to call a java piece unless you do work in the middle-tier to do it on its behalf like an thread / event ?
 
@Drew I mean if browser is up I will have pings (alive), if browser is not up I will not have...
I have used it once to check if client is alive... and maybe there is even better ways... anyway its too broad like that..
 
and he says "the user closed the page or didn't receive the response and call a Java method in that case"
so what is left to call it?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis reviewed
 
4:32 PM
@Drew meeh he probably like to shut down something... who knows...
 
@Tunaki I closed that post from yesterday as duplicate. It could also have been closed as typo, imo.
@Tunaki Also, thanks.
 
thanks :)
 
@Drew maybe I understood your question wrong, in java back-end imagine a thread that is waiting for pings, if pings does not arrive it launch what ever you like to do, if they arrive you know client is waiting
 
right so it is middle-ware work plus ajax
 
but it's 5 years ago that I did this stuff, probably more effective ways now
@Drew yeah you need something that pings you (javascript or some crazy form reloading) and you need a thread back-end that receives and check what to do...
@Drew anyway probably better to do a progress bar and a nice button cancel : )
 
4:42 PM
@Drew It's a dupe or something is a dupe of it?
 
Plop Magisch
 
didnt have much time today I was babysitting an intern
 
Yay.
 
5:11 PM
drive by
 
5:21 PM
@Machavity Timothy published his thing over in Campaigns concerning the Phalcon thing. Direct link if you have time
 
5:43 PM
@Drew That makes a lot more sense. Dupehammered
 
@Timothy thx see above a few lines
@Machavity thx for your time
 
Wow, @Machavity Got a Php hammer? Congratulations!
 
@BhargavRao Thanks
 
@Machavity Nice congrats
 
5:49 PM
:D
 
@Machavity congrats
 
Someday I will try to answer and get that gold badge. :D
 
Waffles \o/
 
More waffles \o/
:)
 
@Tunaki Yeah, yeah. I was in the midst of writing a novel to point that out when Nathan.... hmm... er... waffles.
 
5:54 PM
:)
 
lol
 
@Queen f
Wrong language.
 

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